Doug Robinson: BYU ready to start the single life

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  • TheSportsAuthority Arlington, VA
    Aug. 31, 2011 9:32 a.m.


    "Nothing has changed, EPSN or not."

    Only a crimson-shaded glasses wearing jealous little brother would try to convince himself that TEN games on ESPN with unlimited replays and live broadcasts on BYUtv is no different than the lame MTN.

    Reality will set in when you're searching for Utah football on the weekly television schedule and all you can find is BYU.

    But, keep telling yourself that nothing has changed.

  • Mid-Major Cougars San Diego, CA
    Aug. 31, 2011 8:19 a.m.

    Life after a divorce may not be as good as you think...

    Mid-major is still a mid-major. Nothing has changed, EPSN or not.

  • Seattleview Federal Way, WA
    Aug. 30, 2011 8:33 p.m.

    Wait till the "powers that be" in Salt Lake say that Independance is perferable to big time sports in the Big 12. That just might end up being the case.

  • AK Cougar Palmer, AK
    Aug. 30, 2011 6:44 p.m.

    Chris B and Hedghog are one and the same. If either one was ever found out by taking a wager, he/she would simply change his name to further erode his percieved relevance. He/She is so obsessed with all things BYU that he/she stays up late to be the first one to comment on BYU articles. He/She is not a U fan either. U fans have more respect for an opponent, especially the rival opponent.

    Save you breath Cougar fans. The only life he/she leads is to reread BYU articles and postings by Cougar fans to read what response his irrelevant posts drew out.

    Go Cougars.

  • CaptainL PROVO, UT
    Aug. 30, 2011 5:50 p.m.

    I don't see why so many BYU fans are so anxious to jump at joining a BCS conf. IMO it's not all some people are trying to make it out to be. What has it done for Arizona or Arizona St., not much, how many BCS games or NC games have they played in? Not many. Money wise, yes it is a benefit but otherwise it isn't all that.
    BYU can make it as an independent and money wise they will make plenty. Football wise, winning is the key, if BYU wins everything else will take care of itself. Utah may end up better than Arizona or Arizona St or Colorado or Washington St or Cal or any of the other BCS conf. middle of the pac teams but that is yet to be determined. The big 10 is too unstable to jump at joining that conf. IMO staying independent is the best road, at least until situations and needs change.

  • giantfan Farmington, UT
    Aug. 30, 2011 4:06 p.m.

    Independence is definitely looking better than it did when first announced. I still think it would be in BYU's best interest to join a strong football conference, like the current Big XII, and if they were invited, they should only accept under certain conditions:
    1. Texas and Oklahoma must remain members of the conference. If one or the other or both were to leave, BYU should be allowed to leave as well, penalty free. This may be a moot condition anyway since the conference may very well desintigrate without the two powers at the top.
    2. BYUtv should continue to be able to broadcast live non-nationally televised games and rebroadcast all games. There should be no qualms about this since BYU doesn't have any desire to broadcast high school games, and therefore gain a recruiting advantage a la Texas.
    3. And, of course, no Sunday-play is a given.

    If the Big XII doesn't want to agree to the above conditions, no big deal. Stick with Independence.

  • The Rock Federal Way, WA
    Aug. 30, 2011 2:22 p.m.

    Just what exactly did Chris B's comment have to do with the article?
    He posted the same thing here that he has posted on other articles.

    Let's ban trash talk from the comment boards here. It violates the rules.
    Chris B's comment was off topic and should be removed.

    I have had many of my own comments rejected for less.

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    Aug. 30, 2011 12:27 p.m.


    I will make you a wager. The one that is farthest away on point spread between these two games goes away for a year. That means you would still be able to post under hedgehog moniker. I don't have another ID so I would be gone for a year.

    ole miss 30
    byu 17

    Utah 45
    Montana State 10

    BYU 38
    Ole Miss 20

    Montana State 24
    utah 28.

  • sports-junkie West Jordan, UT
    Aug. 30, 2011 10:58 a.m.


    I personally have never said "Indy is better than Pac12".

    BYU fans wanted Pac12 more than anything. It obviously wasnt a good fit. So, instead of drone on in the Mountain Worst, BYU decides to forge ahead on their own. At first, I thought Indy would be very risky. How could they handle the scheduling and where would BYU fans watch the games? Enter ESPN. I think thats what get fans around the country so excited about the future of Independence.
    Whats better? MWC or Indy? Not even a question.

    IMO, going Indy shows the "big boys" that BYU is not content. You dont want to invite us? Well, we'll just do it our way. Once the "big boys" see how eager ESPN is to partner with BYU its an eye opener. Maybe BYU deserves to be a part of a major conference after all.

    Would I have loved for it to be Pac12? Of Course. But thats not an option. B12 is just as good.

  • Starfarer Mesa, AZ
    Aug. 30, 2011 10:53 a.m.


    It must be so hard for you to hear from media that BYU is the best fit for the Big XX. And eve harder that they might invite them and BYU turn it down.

    Or, conversely that BYU's independence stole the thunder from u's jump.

    Even all the way from California you can't leave BYU alone.

    So your whole argument about being lonely is, well...silly.

    If you can't leave BYU alone, imagine all the BYU supporters, or people who are just on the fence tuning in just to see. If you can't leave BYU alone imagine all the media when BYU wins.

    I guess it is so lonely over there in utesville, you have no choice but to comment on BYU boards.

    That is so sad.

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    Aug. 30, 2011 10:48 a.m.

    UU32: IMO those BYU fans who are anxious to join a BCS conf. are only looking at things from a football perspective. The bigger picture is exposure and furthering the cause of spreading the message of the restored gospel. The way things are now, with the ESPN contract etc things are pretty good.
    I personally think staying independent is the best option. Winning will be the key.
    The only way going to a BCS conf. would be prefered is if doing so would make furthering the cause better. If BYU could keep their TV aggreement with ESPN and still have all the freedoms they now have with their own TV network, maybe going to a BCS conf would be better but there are alot of ifs. The big 12/10 is pretty unstable at present and I'm not sure they would want to give BYU what BYU would be wanting. To me belonging to a BCS conf. is way over rated, look at Arizona and Arizona St. they bolted 35 yrs ago, how many NC games have they played in? How many BCS bowl games have they played in? Not many. Money is the only plus. BYU isdoingfine moneywise.

  • Starfarer Mesa, AZ
    Aug. 30, 2011 10:25 a.m.

    Chris B

    Still not man enough?

    Take the wager, if you are so sure.

  • SoCalUtahFan Utesville, CA
    Aug. 30, 2011 10:21 a.m.

    Single life?
    More like lonely life.

    "Quest to be alone" is about to start....:)

  • UU32 Bountiful, UT
    Aug. 30, 2011 9:58 a.m.

    So, BYU fans, help me understand, is Independence the ultimate destination or a stepping stone to get into a BCS conference?

    When Independence was first announced, along with the marriage to the WCC for other sports, it was a long term commitment, the greatest thing ever to happen to BYU sports. It was the opportunity to fulfill the mission of the church and the best venue to accomplish the goals of the athletics program and the univeristy.

    Now the Big-12 is sniffing around. And the wandering eye comes -- the grass may be greener? The Big-12 may be the ultimate destination - even better than Independence?

    I am struggling because all I have heard as a Utah fan, from my BYU friends is that Independence is far superior to affiliation with the Pac-12. That Utah jumped for money and forgot all its allegiances and the true pursuit of collegiate amatuer athletics. Now that BYU is on the docket for the Big-12, it seems that some (not all) think BCS is ultimate goal. Help me understand. Not trying to stir the pot, just honestly confused.

    No, Chris B and hedgehog - I'm not asking for your help.

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    Aug. 30, 2011 9:47 a.m.

    IMO, BYU needs to stay independent, the big 12/10 isn't stable and BYU has enough clout to forge their own path, winning is the key. Having control over their own situation is prefered, IMO.

  • JonnyDanger HOUSTON, TX
    Aug. 30, 2011 9:17 a.m.

    We are almost to the one-year anniversary of announcing our Independence! It will remain to be seen whether Independence is the answer for the long-haul or merely the stepping stone. I find it gratifying that either option has so much upside. Taking the analogy from the article to the over-the-edge extreme, if BYU is now living the high life of a free spirited single, and the Big 12 comes calling with a marriage proposal, do the strong words spoken in the last General Conference about the importance of settling down and getting married pertain to BYU Independence as well as YSAs? Just a random thought :)

    Great article.

  • Mountain Cat Oceanside, CA
    Aug. 30, 2011 9:13 a.m.

    I can't believe it! There must be two of us that play the Tuba in the basement.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 30, 2011 9:12 a.m.

    ole miss 30
    byu 17

    Utah 45
    Montana State 10

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    Aug. 30, 2011 8:10 a.m.

    Very well written, nice parallels!

    Saturday, here we come!

  • nunya sacramento, ca
    Aug. 30, 2011 7:47 a.m.

    im one of the critical ones with your article....this one however was very easy to read and kind of funny....great job. thanks.

  • Laser Iowa City, IA
    Aug. 30, 2011 7:24 a.m.

    BYU enjoys unfettered freedom, creates jealous and envy for teams that only wish they could do the same thing. Texas is also considering breaking the oppression. Utah is hoping they can survive not getting paid by the pac 12 this year, the honeymoon is over.

  • Andermart Pullman, WA
    Aug. 30, 2011 7:21 a.m.


    Great job on this one. Your best ever. The Wayne and Garth's basement TV station line cracked me up. I can't wait to hear about their big date this week-end. Let's hope they generate some sparks and we'll go get some ice cream.

  • football43 Morgan, UT
    Aug. 30, 2011 7:16 a.m.

    Great article.

  • GACougar Atlanta, GA
    Aug. 30, 2011 7:12 a.m.

    "Utah fans might have something different to say on that subject but maybe no one will bother to ask."

    Now THAT was funny!

  • SLC BYU Fan Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 30, 2011 6:25 a.m.

    Looks like the single life will be very short lived for BYU in that the Big 12 will come calling this week fullfilling Brad's prophecy!

  • trav23 ELKO, NV
    Aug. 30, 2011 1:13 a.m.

    I always love your articles Doug. Some don't seem to appreciate your sense of humor, but I love it. Keep up the good work!