High school football: Vikings beat Wolverines in the trenches in shutout win

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    Aug. 31, 2011 5:26 p.m.

    Hunter Alumni here... We ran double tight ends quite often under Wes Wilcken and I remember Pierce using the same formations while he was there too... Seems to me that they lack someone who can run the ball like Hunter running backs have been known to do...

  • Playa Hata Bluffdale, UT
    Aug. 30, 2011 10:33 a.m.

    It doesn't matter what offense you are running if your line doesn't block. From what I saw it looked like they ran the same plays Hunter always runs they just did it out of Shotgun instead of under center. So I think its crazy to think it is the scheme. Hunter is also trying to two platoon with its guys and it is helping the Defense out. The two best O-Lineman on the team play DL the entire game for the Wolverines, if they end up on the offensive side of the ball it would help immensely.

    Its the right decision to go 2 platoon the only problem is depth. If you make the 2 big guys go both ways its going to be tough on them. If the offense just keeps working and the D keeps balling out the Wolverines are going to be legit.

  • eagle Provo, UT
    Aug. 29, 2011 6:14 p.m.

    Yes, Dale Sampson has been at PG for several years as head coach and about two decades as defensive coordinator.

    As for the spread, it doesn't work in a lot of places. It is the offense du jour at many schools. Parents seem to like it because it's "exciting", my son can go out for a pass rather than stock block etc.

    I think programs over time gain an identity. Many youth coaches actually do the high school offense (like at Skyline and Highland). Through years of repetition, the system is learned and mastered and a confidence can grow in the system. I think there are some programs where the spread suits the athletes in the system.

    I remember when Coach Hamblin brought the west coast offense to East HS. Coach Hamblin is a very good coach, now working at BYU, but the offense didn't fit and when East went back to its power running attack the program has generally done well (last year aside).

    Now lastly, I'll give Hunter one more pass. Layton was the first game, PG is a good defensive team. But how many times has Hunter been shut out, let alone two consecutive games?

  • justafan Gunnison, Utah
    Aug. 29, 2011 1:20 p.m.

    Eagle, PG has had the same coach for years now. You really think the spread can work everywhere but Hunter? wow relax buy a ticket watch the game and enjoy. Coach Hamilton is a Veteran Coach Hunter is in good hands.

  • eagle Provo, UT
    Aug. 28, 2011 1:03 a.m.

    Last time I saw Hunter play Lone Peak in the playoffs where they made the semi-finals, this was their formation for pretty much the whole second half and three overtimes.

    One or two TE set with three running backs in the backfield. So maybe they don't line up with exactly two TE's but the PRINCIPLE is Hunter needs to get back to smash-mouth football!

    Another question: when you don't score any points in two consecutive contests, does anyone constitute an offensive threat?

    Coach Hamilton is a good coach so I think he'll make some adjustments and/or the players will catch on. His teams at Alta were defensive minded and Hunter's defense is very good. PG is a solid team but a bit offensively challenged themselves over the years with a long-time defensive coordinator now the head coach.

    I actually expect Hunter to become a better football team, and it's not like Region 2 is a juggernaut. But I doubt Hunter wins a playoff game and when they HS Insider feel free to "scold" me again...okay dude!

  • HS FOOTBALL INSIDER West Valley City, Utah
    Aug. 27, 2011 5:53 p.m.

    When was the last time hunter used 2 tight ends on a consistent bases? NEVER!!! if you are going to say what Hunter "needs" at least get the personnel straight dude.

    Also, maybe next time you should watch the team before you jump to conclusions. Hunter's 2 best offensive threats are receivers Devonte Maez and Dimitri Saliba.

    Hunter is closer to being really good than a lot of people could ever imagine.

  • AltaDad Draper, UT
    Aug. 27, 2011 3:05 a.m.

    Well for the boys, lets hope changes can be made. There is a lot of talent at Hunter. Hopefully Les won't be stubborn on this.

  • eagle Provo, UT
    Aug. 27, 2011 1:01 a.m.

    Like I said before, I just don't think the spread will work at Hunter. That offense needs two TE's, it's lineman's hands on the ground with their rears in the air ready to fire off the ball and a hard-nosed running back with a tough fullback in front of him leading him through the hole. That's Hunter football. 96 minutes of scoreless offense may suggest that this spread isn't working. Sometimes you have to tailor an offense to the talents and mindsets of the players. Hamilton is a very good coach and I would think changes will be in the works.

  • pgvikings LEHI, UT
    Aug. 27, 2011 12:21 a.m.

    Receiver Skyler Munson for PG is a junior not a senior.