U of U's version of the Honor Code.
As a BYU fan, I'm saying this - Coach W's job is not to groom men from boys.
His job is to win football games. Suspending him goes against the
responsibility placed on his to win games. Plus, the NCAA most likely had their
say and is most likely satisfied with the punishment. Bronco's job
is to also win football games, except he's got something like 4 other
responsibilities first, like grooming boys into men. That's just the priority
placed on the BYU program. It's not a knock against Utah. Just the way things
I think many posters don't realize how big of a punishment a DUI is in the state
of Utah. It's jail time, a $10,000 fine, community service, they loose their
licenses, they have to pay for things like towing and impound fees, insurance
rates go up, reputations get damaged and many people end up loosing their
jobs.Over the next 5 years Fotu will probably loose between $20,000
and $50,000 as a direct result of getting his DUI. When Fotu graduates he's
probably going to want a job, but because he's a convicted felon it's going to
be really hard.It's not coach Whit's responsibility to pile on.
Let's let Coach Whitt coach his team. If he believes Nai has paid his dues
during these intervening months, that should fill the bill. We have a National
Coach of the Year here who knows his stuff.And, we have no idea what
dues have been actually paid since all we have are newspaper reports.No disrespect to MSU but Vegas point spread web sites currently show Utah -28,
so there should be significant PT for many of the two's and three's. Significant psychological impact --- being ready to play but sidelined. You
can't compete to start if you're relegated to sipping Gatorade.My
guess is that after Sept 1st he will be a monster against USC, and that's why
you can believe Coach Whitt is a motivational genius.
"This just shows younger players on the team that they can get away from a
serious offense with just a 1 game suspension."He did not
receive "just a 1 game suspension." He was suspended indefinitely from
the team after the incident. I think the fact that he was brought back to the
team at all shows his level of dedication to change. As mentioned before, this
is one of the best defensive line and linebacking corps the U has seen in a long
time whether Nai plays or not. The team doesn't need Nai, Nai needs the team,
and he has shown that by working his way back onto the team.
I cannot believe that the school would do this publically and damage this young
man's reputation. Sure he's made a mistake, but it could have been handled
privately. No need for the institution to comment.There is no way
that Utah can ever compete in the PAC having rules of conduct.
"This year Utah has the deepest D line and LB corp they've had in years,
and people are saying Kyle caved in just to win games." ---pocyUte
Agreed. It's fine they want to think conspiritorial, but I'm not a
fan of them trying to pass it off as fact. "That is a joke of a
punishment. I would be a lot happier with a 3-6 game suspension. This just shows
younger players on the team that they can get away from a serious offense with
just a 1 game suspension."---BigWilly1 game. 3-6 games.
Both seem arbitrary to me."Nice, since they needed him SO bad
to win game 1. If they would have at least suspended him through the USC game, I
would have supported that more."---Cougar ClawsBecause,
based on your name, I'm sure you are normally a big supporter of Utah athletics.
Now that is some real punishment.... I wonder if he would have been suspended
had USC been the first game??? Or even BYU???I'm thinking no....
That is a joke of a punishment. I would be a lot happier with a 3-6 game
suspension. This just shows younger players on the team that they can get away
from a serious offense with just a 1 game suspension. Driving while intoxicated
is no minor offense, the details of the incident make it even worse. The NCAA
should handle criminal offenses and proper disciplinary actions, not the
As I stated earlier, I don't know the young man or the circumstances except what
was reported. I believe in redemption, but after consequences. Indeed, Coach
Whit has a good track record and I trust the consequences were tangible. I just
wish Fotu would have been suspended for a game that means something, or not any
games. For the public punishment to be missing the game against Montana St.,
but return for the historic USC game, makes me wonder.
Cougar fans would not be happy unless he was suspended for the season. I love
how quick people are to judge this kid without having any information. It seems
to me that there is a scripture that some of us may need to review. I believe
it goes something like "Judge not that ye be not judged... for by the
judgement that ye judge shall ye also be judged." Now, we don't know what
he had to go through, we don't know what type penetance he has done or what form
it has taken. I in no way want to sound as if I am condoning what he did. What
he did was wrong but if he has learned from this mistake and done everything
that was required of him legally and put upon him by the team, it is not up to
us to decide. How many of us have made a big mistake and been given the
opportunity to turn things around. He should have that chance.
Wow...slap on the wrist.
I am glad that Fotu is given a second chance and hope that he will stay out of
troubles as a person.@LogicReduced...There is punishment
that Kyle can use to correct Fotu as a person. Fotu has to do that himself. So
take your illogical thinking and go away.
I understand the sentiment from logic, but I disagree with him. First of all,
drunk driving is deplorable, and all those things could have happened, but they
didn't. 2nd, we don't know what Fotu had to do outside of the football
things.I think Kyle's track record shows that players truly have to
earn their way back. If you remember Marquis Wilson, a player who had a bigger
role on the team, he never made it back. Also there is Mo Neal who was going to
be a huge part of LB corp last year, he was dismissed after a bar fight. This
year Utah has the deepest D line and LB corp they've had in years, and people
are saying Kyle caved in just to win games. Again, I'm not defending Fotu's
crime, but I trust Whit's process and judgement.
I agree with logic. This guy could have killed someone and he gets a mere slap
on the wrist. And his "punishment" is to miss a game against Montana
State??? I think Whittingham is succumbing to the pressure to win
in the PAC 12.Sad.
Nice, since they needed him SO bad to win game 1.If they would have
at least suspended him through the USC game, I would have supported that more.
Agreed Logic...a slap on the hand is not punishment..especially against Montana
State. Circumstances = driving under the influence of alcohol =
drunk.But then what did you expect Kyle to do. He has to win games.
I'm a Utah fan, but this seems way too light of a punishment. 3 times the legal
limit, on a suspended license, driving the wrong direction on 215. Thank God an
innocent person(s) were not seriously injured, or worse. I'd say the USC game
should be included in the punishment, minimum, even with a perfect record since.
Of course, this is an opinion without any knowledge of the young man or the
circumstances beyond what was reported.
Good for Nai. I wish he hadn't made the mistake he did, but I'm glad he got
things turned around.