TheDuece: Its all about winning, that's all you have to do and BYU knows it.
That is what they will be out to prove. That is what the football program will
be working to do , but exposure will come even with one or two or three losses
but exciting brand of football and every game televised. Exposure, Exposure,
Exposure, that is the ultimate goal. Again the sports side of things is
secondary and a tool. If the only thing we were worried about was football
things would be different but like I said, football (although important) is not
the most important objective.
If BYU wants to be "Notre Dame West of sorts", that's about right.
They haven't won a "nat'l championship" in a quarter century either,
and by the way fan in orem, I will not be watching the Montana State game on
KJZZ, I'll be in the stadium with 45,000 of my closest friends.
To: Captain L | 9:21 a.m. Aug. 16, 2011 Provo, UT - you do make some good
points. However, the difference between BYU and Boise State/TCU is that Boise
State/TCU win games and win big games. This is why they get the love. When BYU
can show the rest of us that they can beat Boise State and TCU, I will believe
in independence. Until then, this is a risky venture at best. The 2nd half of
this years schedule is really pathetic for a program that is seeking exposure.
As I have stated before, if they don't win the first half of the schedule, no
one will be watching.
Many of you who complain about the weaker opponents later in the season continue
and continue and continue to ignore the fact that many of the conferences in the
BCS make if very difficult for their members to schedule non conference games
later in the season. A few ban it outright, yet you continue to harp on the
lack of quality opponents. Before you complain find out the facts first please.
PapasmurfUte I assume you are including Utah in that list of JV schools BYU
played at the end of the year. The game turned on a blown coverage.
crowntown1: The major goal isn't BCS bowl or NC, it is exposure to BYU and the
Church, with the message of the Restored Gospel eventually getting into as many
homes and lives as possible, that is the ultimate goal. Football wise, yes
getting into a BCS bowl and then the NC game would be their goal but that is
secondary goalwise to spreading the message of the Resored Gospel.
Sports/football are great entertainment but not really important in the big
picture. Sports/Football/Basketball are great tools because of how popular and
watched they are.I prefer that BYU stay independent, it has some drawbacks
but mostly I like it and don't think we need the comfort & security of a
conf.. time will tell, but for the next several yrs(maybe indefinately) I like
the idea of independance. Those who complain about the strength of
schedule, where are you coming from? This yrs schedule is stronger with more
tough teams than we would ever have as a member of the Mtn and Boise St, Utah
& TCU got plenty of love and BCS bowl games with far weaker schedules.
Things will continue to get better.
Re: Dave Rose, he was stuck on the mtn as well. That wasn't just football. His
team will be seen nationally much more this year than the past several years. I
don't think he is having too hard of a time with it.Also, Smurf,
there are thousands of BYU fans all over the world who have NOT been seeing
their favorite team play, until now. It doesn't matter if people stumble on to a
game or not, there are plenty of people who know how to find
"aljazoobie-tv" just fine.To the others who keep
commenting on our schedule: We are BYU fans, not just ute haters. We like to
watch our team play, even if we are playing Idaho State and Idaho. Don't you
like to watch the utes play, no matter who it is you are playing. I suppose you
aren't going to bother watching KJZZ on a Thursday night because it is only
Montana State? Really? Great fans. Kyle is lucky to have you.
Is it Sept. 3rd yet?
A few days ago, BYU was ready for Big-12 too...I guessed Big-12 is
not ready for BYU.Settle for Indy-Wacky then.
@ Papa Smurf UTEFyi, 9 of Boise State's 2011 games will be televised
nationally. Only 3 will be carried by the Mtn.Too bad the Utes
backed down from the 2011 return game they owed the Broncos on the Boise blue.
I was looking forward to that one.
Risk and reward is related to a surfer.... what?Welp, we'll see how
the season goes.
Well I for one will just relish the year, win or lose, because I can either
cheer for victory or cry in defeat since almost all my games will be avaialable
to watch. No more denying us MWC. When we lose it will hurt, no denying that but
we are in such a better place. Who cares what the negative Ute fans have to say.
There are many more Ute fans who wish BYU the best except for when we play them.
I for one want to see us succeed and I want to see Utah succeed. If they do
great and we beat them, it boosts us overall as a team and makes all the nay
sayers look silly. Go BYU and go Utah. Hope this is a stellar year for both.
Now, let's play some football!!!
More risk than reward though I don't understand if going to a BCS game or
winning a NC is the ultimate goal, than Independence is not the answer.
I think this season is going to be a great year whether we win or lose! It's the
level of competition you play, and this year is far and away better than what we
played in the Mountain West! I think we did the right thing! I would also hope
the Big 12 invites us and Boise State to replace Nebraska and Colorado, there
you will be getting a former National Champion, to replace Nebraska in BYU, and
a Boise State that I believe is much better than Colorado, who has been nothing
but a year here and a year there kind of team. Colorado jumped ship for the
Pac-12 because they knew they were playing teams who out classed them. So now
they might win a few games. I think they will do better in the Pac-12 myself. I
think that BYU will be better off as an Independant and will land them in the
BIG 12 should it choose that course!
"I can't wait for September 3rd and 17th!"Playing Utah is
old news and uninteresting. I can't wait to play an SEC opponent and a Big XII
powerhouse. Now those are REAL teams!
To the naysayers: No one said it would be easy to go independent. The Y will
have to content itself with some lower tier teams for a few years until it
solidifies its reputation and schedule. It was a no-brainer decision to move
because of the mediocre TV deals they had, especially in comparison with what
they have now--twice as many TV games as the Utes. ESPN is a lot smarter than
Papa Smurf (but then, isn't everybody?) when it comes to TV ratings. The Y will
pull in plenty of viewers and not just nationally.Coach Rose has
stated that he is excited for the move because of the great teams they'll be
playing in the new conference. In a few years, everything will be running like a
finely-tuned engine. And if they get invited into a BCS conference, so much the
This independent move has many questions along the way. One comment said it
right, don't be confused about the success of the second half of last year,
those teams were not what you want to base anything on right now. Yes, this
years first half of the year schedule looks good. However, the second half of
the year is dismal and provides nothing. The Y has really put themselves in an
interesting position. If you don't win the first half of the season, forget
about the second half. Although games may be broadcast, who is going to watch
Idaho State and Univ. of Idaho? This is not the exposure everyone talks about.
Yes, football drives the bus financially. I would rather the Y come out and say
this from the start rather than putting together a patchwork of conferences for
the rest of the athletic program to participate in. This is putting all of your
eggs in one basket and does not make alot of sense unless this is all about the
$'s. Why does Coach Rose not say much about his situation? Last year, basketball
did alot more for exposure than the football team has done.
Pretty sure I have read a very similar article every day from the day BYU went
independent. It is exciting and all, but do we need an article every day about
We all know that the Y was not playing like a top 25 at the end of the year.
They were playing a bunch of JV schools, and that is why they looked light years
ahead of where they did at the beginning of the year. Same thing could be said
for the UTES at the beginning of last year, and falling of at the end of the
season. ESPN will get you more exposure, but Aljazoobie TV will not. Only us LDS
folk and Y fans will know where it is, even though 500 trillion people may have
it in their homes. Only about 10 million or less will ever sit down to watch a
game on it. I dont think that the BIG 12 is going to come calling for the Y
anytime soon, butindependence is that way to gofor them for sure. Especially
over the Mtn Worst with the UTES, and then TCU no longer being there. Boise St
will now become the little engine that could that will no longer be seen on TV.
Bronco is really a class act. His neck is out as far as it can get as the head
coach of the most visible sport at BYU. Independence could be an incredible
success and the continuation of something great. I believe it will be. Judging
from the quality of recruits he has been getting, I am not alone.
3 cheers for Bronco. Love everything about him as a coach. Saturday at the
scrimmage I saw him on one knee tenderly holding the head of injured fullback
Pritchard while comforting him verbally through the helmet earhole as the
medical staff attended to Pritchard. Win or loose, Bronco is a class act....and
the team will win!
I can't wait for September 3rd and 17th!Go Cougars!
This is really going to be a fun year!
Independence seems to be a great interim step. A brand building exercise that
ultimately puts you in a strong negotiating position when "the mess"
that is college football, ultimately settles in 3, 5 or 10 years.
"If we maintain our winning ways in football, with more exposure, I can't
see it doing anything but making us more marketable for whatever comes next, and
hopefully that will outweigh the comfort of a conference."Well
said Bronco. It may be that Independence is the long-term solution, or it may
be a stepping stone. Either way-if we win it is awesome. And if we don't
win...we can all watch the agony on ESPN :)