@byron and eagleWell I remember Weddle seeing time on both sides of
the ball. granted as a db that is different than being a DE but at least you
know there is some history at utah of the coaches being willing to use a player
in multiple ways if he is capable of doing it.I agree with byron's
thoughts in that the coaches maybe didn't think he had wr speed whereas his
speed is very good for a DE. Anyway I was just really impressed with this kid in
high school and so I am watching with alot of interest what he does in college.
I think he'll be a very good player regardless of how they eventually decided to
byronbca:I'm definitely willing to give the Ute coaching staff the
benefit of the doubt, just expressing an opinion. I think my opinion is an
educated opinion and it's not that colleges coaches, even very good coaches like
Whittingham are infallible. In regards to (Paul) Kruger, I saw him
play several times at Timpanogos. He was a nice QB, great body for the position
seemingly destined for greatness but he didn't really reach that level. As an
offensive player he wasn't in Fakahafua's league--not even close. I have to
give credit to Kruger though. Though he was a good player in high school, he
wasn't great, many thought he didn't play up to his potential. He really
stepped it up in college. I have to give the Ute coaches credit as they coached
him up and he reached his full potential and exceeded expectations. Again, all
to his credit. He really developed a motor, some great intensity to go with
what was a great frame. Whether Fakahafua plays O or D I feel he will perform
well, but just thinking he has more upside on the O side of things.
I don't want to lecture, but there is a huge difference between how you
"use" an athlete in HS and College Football... Any sane coach in HS
wants to put his best athlete in a position where they affect as many plays as
possible. You want them to touch the ball on offense and/or play a position on
defense were they can't be "just run away from."College is
different you have more athletes, but you NEED more athletes especially on
Defense. It is perfectly normal for a great college athlete that could be
playing RB or WR to be playing CB. I would also say that a great athlete that
could be playing TE is usually more valuable if he can be a stud pass rushing
DE. NateF has a chance to be a stud like that in the mold of past Utes Jason
Kaufusi, Koa Misi, Paul Kruger or TCU's Tommy Banks and Jerry Hughes. Kyle Whittingham knows exactly what he is doing.
"Fakahafua, though, has his sights set on ever more a trip to the Rose Bowl
and "hopefully a national championship."...Typical
Utes...winning another preseason National Championship and preseason Rose Bowl
Re eagle:Most of the players on the Ute defense were offensive stars
in high school, the question is: is he better than Pedroza or some of the other
kids they have coming in as receivers? My guess is they didn't think he had the
speed to play receiver and they didn't see him beating out Moeai or Tonga at
tight end. Dave Krugar was an offensive star in high school too and
look how well that turned out.
I think any player that has the tools to do something with the ball like run it,
catch it or throw it should be doing such. Certainly he will make a good
player. He's a stud but I think his fullest potential is on the offensive side
of the ball where he can use these special gifts he possesses. lIke hohum
suggested. He killed Pine View from his receiving position. He was neutralized
as a defender. Great offenses or schemes can neutralize a defender. But those
who saw him play against Pine View or Mountain Crest or other games during the
year saw how he could go and get the ball sometimes between two and three
players that were quality athletes themselves. These kind of gifts are indeed
I'm excited about this freshmen class, Faka, Langi, Dres Anderson, and Rowe
could all make a big impact this year. There are a few other guys like Asiata,
Murphy, and Fehoko who could end up making some noise by the end of the season
too.I would not be surprised if these freshmen end up being the best
the U has ever had.
Watched Nate play against Pine View last year. Offensivly he killed them, won
the game for Highland. Defense was a different story. Pine View had 50 passing
plays, 500 plus yards, not one sack or tackle for loss. By the way these were
sophomores, back this year. So using Nate as a bench mark I am excited about the
chances of Pine View, all of those kids are back except one. I know
this is a college article but couldn't help building up the kids. Nate
evidentily is doing well at DE and glad to see it. He was a better reciever in
high school, thought the u would use him as a TE.
This is one of the few times I disagree with Whittingham. I think Fakahafua
would be better suited to be a WR/TE. He has incredible lift and great hands
and a big frame. Some of the catches he made last year were simply amazing.
When one can do something with the ball like he can, he needs to play in a
position to do something with the ball. And maybe he can be a two-way player
playing some spot plays on offense at the very least, but again I think he
should be playing offense.
Re: JustGordonBy your rules then, Utes (and Fakahafua) have no
business talking about national championships since they've never even sniffed
one. Of course BYU has a unanimous NC but I guess that doesn't matter since you
make the rules and 1984 was way "too long ago". Wow you Utes are
Gee, I knew the Souther Cal defense was pretty good, but I didn't know that the
Montana State defensive line was also very good... Thanks for that
info...luckily the Utes go down to Provo for a breather on week three.@ giantfan...you are exactly right! Until the boys in blue do something in
21century, even qualifying for a BCS bowl game would be ok, you don't have to
win it, (Ute fans don't expect you to win it, given your bowl history), it's not
ok!Amazing that we all agree! I am sure you will get no arguments
from any Ute fan on what you have written!
@Black&Blue: "Utah plays 2 of the best defenses they will
face in the first three weeks of the season and need a solid line to compete in
those games."I knew USC's defense woud be a real challenge.
PAC-12; one of the top football traditions of all time. etc. But I had NO IDEA
- Montana State's will be that good. Thanks for the scouting insight.
According to Ute fans "it's because our players are so humble and so is our
coach and we've won two BCS games and we're in the Pac-12 and we don't advertise
our goals but sometimes our players do make comments along those lines so in
those specific cases it's ok. But it's never okay for that team down south. Never!"
@thleteBWaaaaahaaahaaaaaa.....Just what I expected one
of you to post. LOL!
@thlete and naval vetSo in plain English it is okay for a U of U player to
say it and not for a BYU player to say it. A double standard or just plain BYU
haters? Oh the questions never to be answered.
Duckhunter, Ted H:If you read what Thlete said, that was my response
as well. But for some reason, the moderators allowed his, but not mine. Must
be a different shift skulking the comment threads than the one I had upon
posting MY thoughts.Well done Thlete.
Umm Ted H. The Deseret News monitors are willing to let more things go when you
talk bad about the University of Utah than when you talk about BYU such as when
you mocked someone's intelligence because they went to the University of Utah.
It's a shame that the Deseret News lets those kind of comments go through.
@Duckhunter, other Cougs.We don't criticize Fakahafua for saying the
Utes will play "hopefully for a championship" in his 4 years at the
school, because a few things:1) Utah is a BCS team and all top BCS teams
have a legit shot at a NC, not the case for non-AQs as it's never been done and
will never happen.2) He said it with humility as an ideal goal,
"hopefully", as in, "it would be nice". BYU players/coaches
state an NC as their only goal for the year as if anything else is a
disappointment. Easy to see the difference.
Nate is really a great kid and a standout athlete. Best of luck to him at the U.
He could really go places is he plays hard and keeps his nose clean. I remember
him telling me in May that he was struggling to put on that last twenty pounds.
He wants to play so much and he has the great love for the sport and an energy
that is unmatched on the field. I hope to see him put on the twenty pounds to
elevate his potential to start. Ram to Ute, like MiP said, there really is
Duckhunter - Kyle Whittingham will have some private words for Nate about the
National Championship comments - especially as a freshman. He doesn't put up
with that kind of thing. He wants his players focused on the next game - Montana
State now - and will let them have it if they go off talking national
championships. As for those predicting Nate as an NFL talent -- let's see if he
can put on some weight and perform in a consistent manner over the next few
years before we go dubbing him NFL talent.
Naval Vet,No need to ask the monitors. NO doubt it was a classy and
insightful comment, like always. Duckhunter makes a good point
however. The kid sounds awesome. Will be fun to watch this year.
@ Duckhunter | 10:00 a.m. Aug. 11, 2011Highland, UT Yes, I
indeed find it interesting. It can't be because Utah defected from the WMC for
the PAC 12 and before BYU's later decision to go independent. It was going on
before that.It was going on before both teams defected from the WAC
to create the MWC.Maybe Chris B is right, it's the honor code.Go Cougars! Go Utes!
If Utah can't field a solid line, they will have a hard time keeping blitzing
USC linebackers or any solid defense with a good scheme out of the backfield.
Utah plays 2 of the best defenses they will face in the first three
weeks of the season and need a solid line to compete in those games. Wynn does not do well under pressure, and is very fragile when taking hits.
If Wynn goes down, game over.No fan of any sport should ever wish
for injuries to the talented athletes who devote so much of their life to the
game they love. I truly hope the Utah team can be 100% present healthy by the
time they meet USC and BYU.
If there is one thing that Utah excels at it's finding the right position to
play for incoming freshmen. Last year it was switching Blechen from QB to
safety, this year it's Fakahafua making a jump from WR to DE. If Faka can
continue to make an impact at 220 lbs they wont red shirt him, especially if he
can be an impact player on special teams. He wont start until he puts on 20 lbs
but he could do at least 10 snaps a game in passing situations.Too
bad they can't switch him to OL, did they really just loose 3 OGs in one day?
Some of these underclassmen are going to get a shot to play sooner than anyone
expected, I hope they can handle it. We need somebody to step up and take over
that guard position.
Duckhunter:I commented, but if you want to know what I said, you'll
ask the DesNews monitors.
I watched this kid in both the state football and basketball playoffs last
school year. He is a very impressive athlete. I'm a little surprised they moved
him to d-end but I have no doubt that if he can put on the weight he will need
he'll be very good.It is funny though that no utah "fans"
are criticizing him for his national championship comment nor are any other ute
posters criticizing andrewute for his "he is an nfl talent for sure"
comment about a freshman. I guess ute players and fans are allowed those
excesses, it is only BYU fans and players that need to be castigated for their
With the depth of Utah's d-line this year (and most years) it would be a shame
to waste a year of eligibility on a year where he covers punts and kick-offs. A
redshirt year and 20 pounds later, Nate will be ready to go. Don't shy away from
the redshirt year young fella - embrace the chance to get bigger and better and
a fifth year of free school.
Nothing better than being a Ram then a Ute.Go Utes!
Love this kid! He was incredible at the state playoffs last year and I was so
excited to know he was headed to the U! It will be fun to watch him grow as a
player! Good luck young man! He will go very far!
Fakahafua will be an absolute beast. He was so dominate in the state
championship game last year. He is an NFL talent for sure. Cant wait to see him
play as a freshman.
An observation or two! FYI, I do read both Utah and BYU articles because I'm
excited for both teams and hope they do well each year.1) I hope
this young man gets an opportunity to play in front of his home crowd. I'm sure
ALL athletes would enjoy that opportunity to perform in front of family and
friends.2) Don't you find it interesting that this article was
posted at 11:28PM last night and that neither a BYU or Utah troll has mentioned
that, wait, did I read the article right, where Nate said he "has his
sights set on ever more a trip to the Rose Bowl and "hopefully a national
championship."?Does this mean that no one cares about what the
Utah players say, what Utah does, and what their goals are? Or, does it mean
that only Utah fans care what BYU players say, what BYU does, and what their
goals are?No arguing, please!Isn't it nice to just read
the article and see the progression of a good young man and throw him a
compliment "bone" instead of dissecting every word he speaks. Keep it
classy!Go Utes! Go Cougars!
...Fakahafua, though, has his sights set on ever more a trip to the Rose Bowl
and "hopefully a national championship."...Hope to see you
at the Rose Bowl game in Jan.What a great kid---4.0 GPA and all.Go Utes!!!