President Obama's purported 'weird'-Mormon strategy against Mitt Romney will backfire, pundits say

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  • HotGlobe SAN RAFAEL, CA
    Nov. 30, 2011 12:46 a.m.

    Not everybody against Romney is for Obama. Some people just don't like the idea of a Mormon for president and don't consider Mormonism a religion. Attacks on Romney may simply take the form of information about Mormonism, which is new for most Americans. When they find out how different the lifestyle is from their own, many will vote against Romney and Obama will have no stain on his hands. And of course it may be Republicans who start the Mormon infomercials so that Romney never gets the nomination.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    Aug. 11, 2011 11:04 a.m.

    nice try at twisting what I said.

    nowhere did I blame BO for GM and Chrylser going bankrupt.

    His misadministration WAS heavily involved in the bankruptcy proceedings.

    And again you confuse the auto bailout package with the bankruptcy.

    Let me again remind you of the RESULTS of the Oct 2008 financial bailout

    "The government has earned $25.2 billion on its investment of $309 billion in banks and insurance companies, an 8.2 percent return over two years, according to data compiled by Bloomberg" (10/12/2010)

    you forget BO campaigned and voted for TARP, so - since he's BO and you're pagan, he gets a pass while EVERYONE else involved with it should be condemned



    so when one changes from a liberal to a conservative position he flip-flops, but when one goes from a conservative to a liberal position he sees the light?

    All he needs to focus on is compassion? I'd like to know how that will get the economy started

  • ParkCityAggie Park City, Ut
    Aug. 11, 2011 9:54 a.m.

    he's not weird, he's just a flip-flopper who will say anything, and shift his politics to become president. He doesn't stand for anything, he doesn't come off the least bit genuine. I think Americans will see him for his ultra pro-big business/pro-corporation stance and lack of compassion more than anything else. That's all the President needs to focus on. If people don't/wont vote for him because he's a Mormon, well that's too bad for him. I'd still take a Mormon over an evagelical any day of the week, those guys scare me worse than the Taliban!

  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    Aug. 11, 2011 8:58 a.m.

    Hey Pagan, they haven't said anything yet because Obama's people are focus grouping it.

    I would say that if he goes with the weird tac, then Romney ought to consider using the outright racism, anti-Americanism, and craziness of Jeremiah Wright against Obama.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    Aug. 11, 2011 6:56 a.m.

    The reality is that the Politico article was nothing more than gossip within the political campaign industry and in no way reflects the reality of campaign strategy by the people who will actually make the decision on the course of the campaign. Any negative comment about the faith stirs the persecution complex that is so ingrained in our state.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    Aug. 11, 2011 6:44 a.m.

    you attack romney because he said let Detroit go bankrupt.

    uh, didn't you hear that GM and Chrysler DID go BK?? - Oh, and it was during the BO administration.

    And since the BO administration was deeply involved in the bankruptcy, in your mind it MUST have been a good thing.

    So really, you were PRAISING romney when you quote him about Detroit going BK

  • EnglishAlan Rugeley, Staffs
    Aug. 11, 2011 1:28 a.m.

    Mitt Romney has a son that lives in the same ward as one of my daughters, in San Diego. When they had the Witch Creek fires there, Mitt Romney was in town visiting his son, daughter-in-law and grandchildren. He worked as hard as any of the Brethren there to clear up and help out. He got down in the dirt with the others, and spent many hours more than most doing it. He was close to being late for a meeting because he was helping to dislodge a root in a burned out tree in an elderly man's garden. He didn't want to leave until the job was done. It never made the news. Why not? Romney told the the press guys he didn't want them to, as this was not politics, it was taking care of others. If that is weird, I want to be weird.

  • B Logan, UT
    Aug. 10, 2011 10:30 p.m.

    It's the economy, stupid.

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    Aug. 10, 2011 8:38 p.m.

    Re: Pagan | 2:19 p.m. Aug. 10, 2011

    Instead of worrying about Mitt Romney it might be a good idea if Obama started getting down to business and worrying a little bit more about our economy. The stock market dropped another 500 points today.

  • BobP Port Alice, B.C.
    Aug. 10, 2011 8:01 p.m.

    Swift boat Obama - did he do anything except to adopt Rev. Wright's view of America.

    Pagan does seem to be a little excited.

  • Thunderbird Boise, ID
    Aug. 10, 2011 7:18 p.m.

    Democrat Harry Reid occupies the highest seat ever held by a Mormon in US history. Will the Republican party reward all the loyal LDS republicans by electing Mitt in the primary? Mitt must first overcome those of the evangelical right who are anti-mormon. Will Mitt win 1 state in the South in the primary? But it might serve Obama well to misrepresent a candidates religious beliefs (Obama/Muslim) and claim that his religion is extreme and weird(Rv. Wright) He could do well to follow the republican playbook.

  • Brother Chuck Schroeder A Tropical Paradise USA, FL
    Aug. 10, 2011 6:49 p.m.

    I'm not Obama, I'm a real Mormon Republican, not some RINO, I now speak the truth.

    My views.

    There's no mystery about what we have to do. It's just common sense. Mitt Romney should never get elected because as Governor of Massachusetts, Romney gloated about signing a permanent "assault weapons ban far worse than the ban pushed by Bill Clinton and Janet Reno. "[Semi-automatic firearms] are instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people, declared Romney in a press release touting his signature of the Massachusetts "assault weapons ban in 2004. This has like, never been brought up. Ban gun's, but kill babbies with the definitive abortion history of Mitt Romney ?. Ban Ethanol and all "Ethanol Subsidies" entitlements plus the Koch Brothers and Grover Norquist, in their "Field Of Dreams" called "Ethanol Subsidies." It's just plain wrong to be protecting tax breaks for oil companies and to be rewarding businesses that ship jobs overseas. Can Mitt Romney Serve Two Masters?. The Mormon Church Versus The Office Of The Presidency and the American People. "NO".

    Why Mitt Romney should never get elected is because he's weird and

    ___________________________ fill in the blank's with truth.

  • WHAT NOW? Saint George, UT
    Aug. 10, 2011 6:46 p.m.

    "Swift-Boating" anyone?

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Aug. 10, 2011 5:41 p.m.

    What if 'purported' doesn't mean 'real'?

  • Serenity Manti, UT
    Aug. 10, 2011 5:35 p.m.

    You know, it doesn't matter what Des News prints. This is a relative small newspaper and people who read it will probably vote for Romney anyway. Utah is a Republican state and to vote otherwise is in the minority. Now, if other newspapers, such as the New York Times or the Cleveland Plain Dealer would print it, the article may make a difference. Who knows?

  • katamb-midvale Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Aug. 10, 2011 5:31 p.m.

    I hope anything and everything backfires on Obama - as if the economy is not enough! Can't believe the NYTimes had something good to say about a conservative.

  • speed66 Heber City, UT
    Aug. 10, 2011 5:13 p.m.

    I hope this report is wrong and that Obama and his team don't attack Romney on his faith. Such attacks by either party are in bad taste. While I have no intention of voting for Romney and hope that he is not the best the Republicans can muster, I will be wholly disappointed if this turns into a mud-slinging campaign instead of a campaign of ideas.

    We are a divided country and that is okay provided that we remain civil and engage in honest debate. If that were to happen, it would be an incredible step toward making the right decisions and heading in the right direction - not just the right direction for today but the right direction for the next 100 years.

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, Utah
    Aug. 10, 2011 4:26 p.m.

    @Richard Saunders

    Sorry I misunderstood you, but it seemed that you were displeased with the LDS-heavy stories the DN posts.

    Obama's strategy doesn't make me made. As I matter of fact, I believe it will be his downfall, so I hope he does it. I agree that it would be smart for him not to touch on religion, because that will be the kiss of death for him. However, I do get upset when people use an argument as silly as "he never said it himself" to refute other people. There are pretty strong indicators that this is indeed Obama's strategy and Obama himself is involved in this strategy.

  • Richard Saunders Provo, UT
    Aug. 10, 2011 4:21 p.m.

    I think many of us disagree with Pagan's political views, but we should be looking at the point he/she is trying to make, instead of dismissing it as part of a larger viewpoint. Are we LDS (specifically the DN) trying to make this into a Mormon issue, when there really isn't one? Has Obama personally said anything about Mormons, or told his advisers he wants this to be about Mormonism? There is no evidence of such. Disagree with Obama all you want, I myself almost always do. But don't lay blame at his feet for something he hasn't done or said. A democratic strategist believes this should be his strategy, but until Obama consents to it in any demonstrable way, we are making a mountain out of an imaginary molehill. Our pioneer ancestors dealt with mobs and guns. Stuff like this should be water off our backs.

  • rocklaw Holladay, UT
    Aug. 10, 2011 4:20 p.m.

    Perhaps Obama simply needs to explain the White Horse prophecy. That should suffice to militate the non-mormons against Mitt.

  • Richard Saunders Provo, UT
    Aug. 10, 2011 4:11 p.m.

    @Riverton Cougar
    "What a shock! A newspaper owned by the LDS Church makes an issue of Romney's religion (which happens to be LDS)!"

    I'm not 'shocked' that the Deseret News targets their audience. I expect articles about the LDS church from a newspaper owned by the LDS church. They don't bother me, I'm LDS myself and a long time reader of the Deseret News. I like the Deseret News.

    The contention of the article was that bringing Mormonism into the campaign will backfire on Barack Obama. We should not be angry at the President for something a democratic strategist thinks he should do, when the Deseret News has had the Romney/Mormon story angle in at least an article every week since he entered the race. I was just trying to point out that we (as Mormons) make much more of the issue than anyone else. If Romney loses, it will have much more to do with his political views than his religion.

  • Teacher10 Riverton, Utah
    Aug. 10, 2011 4:10 p.m.

    Lets just face it everyone.....Obama is a ONE term President!I don't think it will take much for onyone to be elected president in 2012, but Mitt Romney can do the job. If the first black man can be elected, why not the first Morman?

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, Utah
    Aug. 10, 2011 4:07 p.m.


    Does Obama seal his lips while his campaign strategists do all the talking? Or does Obama say things? Just because it hasn't been reported that he said it doesn't mean that he never did. Where do you think the strategists are picking it up? Guess who happens to live in the White House? Put two and two together.

    If you are clinging on to claims such as this for your defense of Obama then you Obama supporters are in a SAD condition right now.

  • ute alumni Tengoku, UT
    Aug. 10, 2011 3:56 p.m.

    waiting for you to tie this article into:
    Prop 8
    how lousy a place Utah is to live in
    o doesn't stand a chance.
    the market is only down 500 plus today. hey that's change i can believe in.
    glad you like o so much. he'll need a right hand when he goes back to community organizing.

  • procuradorfiscal Tooele, UT
    Aug. 10, 2011 3:48 p.m.

    Re: "I'm not the one claiming to be a newspaper."

    Good thing.

    Just out of curiosity, what are you claiming to be -- besides two people, Pagan and Pagen?

  • Ellie Marie Herriman, UT
    Aug. 10, 2011 3:23 p.m.

    I first heard about this "plan" from Obama's campaign on MSNBC--as if DN had any power over a MSM source like MSNBC.

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, Utah
    Aug. 10, 2011 3:22 p.m.

    "He cited Gallup poll results which show that the number of persons who said they would not vote for a Mormon is lower when just surveying Republicans (18 percent) but increases among Democrats (27 percent) and independents (19 percent)."

    Wait, we've been told all this time by Democrats that Republicans hate Mormons, are intolerant, and would never vote for Mormons while the tolerant Democrats would welcome Mormonism with welcome arms. I guess they were wrong!


    "Unless things change and Obama can run on accomplishments, he will have to kill Romney, said a prominent Democratic strategist aligned with the White House." -from the Politico article

    To me that sounds like Obama and his campaign did in fact say "kill". At least the Democratic strategists and the White House are saying it.

    "I'd dare say that the Deseret News has made much more of an issue of Romney's religion than Barack Obama ever will."

    What a shock! A newspaper owned by the LDS Church makes an issue of Romney's religion (which happens to be LDS)! Let me guess, the University of Utah newspapers have a bias towards the University of Utah sports teams, don't they?

  • The Rock Federal Way, WA
    Aug. 10, 2011 3:21 p.m.

    Romney is Weird:

    An employee of Romney had a daughter disappear in New York City. Romney canceled work and asked all his employees to go to NYC and help locate the young lady. Romney set up a command center, organized the search, involved police, grocery stores, etc. It made the press. It cost Romney a fortune. It saved the girls life. That is just weird. Nobody does that.

    Romney took over the SLC Olympic organizing committee, ended the scandal and turned the first every profit for the Winter Olympics. That's just weird.

    Romney buys bankrupt companies that nobody else would touch and turns them around. That's just weird.

    Romney is weird, a weirdness America desperately needs.

    Vote Romney Vote Weird.

    (Thanks Obama for the Romney Campaign Slogan)

  • Kouger Lehi, UT
    Aug. 10, 2011 2:56 p.m.

    Okay, when will you ant-DN posters realize that all newspapers and news sources have certain leanings? SL Tribune, Washington Times, etc., have their own agendas too. Most people in this state are Mormons and they will of course want to read about Mormon issues/news and Mitt Romney is present news for LDS members. Huntsman too though not doing as well thus far. Im sure this should have been real obvious, people!

    My issue however, is with Harry Reid and Mormon Democrats. If all this anti-LDS attack by Obama and the Dems materializes, will they finally stand up and take a stand or will politics trump their LDS affiliation?

  • MollyMormon Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 10, 2011 2:44 p.m.


    Please Calm down--your bias is much worse than that of the Deseret News. You would do well to put your efforts towards something worth while rather than spending countless hours arguing about Desnews posts online--start a charity or something.

  • JustGordon Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Aug. 10, 2011 2:44 p.m.

    No surprise that the President would view Mitt as the only viable Republican candidate...he is a weak horse in a stable of mavericks: Bachmann's, Palin's, Paul's and Perry's - none of whom could muster enough votes together to get elected on a laundry ticket.

    Mitt is weak, because he is Mr. Flip Flop, the ultimate Republican carpetbagger, who despite his Michigan roots would have Detroit fail, speaks now against his own medical care program like the President got it directly from Lucifer and who taunts himself as a business leader, yet as governor of Massachusetts had job growth of less than 1%.

    Those who think that the American public will lay this politicized debt crisis on Democratic doorsteps, do not give the American people enough credit. It was Republicans who from the very beginning drew the line in the sand and said they would not negotiate. The same 120 Republicans who voted for 6 or 7 Bush increases in the debt ceiling now would not on "principle" vote for this one. The principle was that the President was a democrat. They would rather the Nation's credit rating and stock markets suffer trillions in losses than permit a perceived victory.

  • Richard Saunders Provo, UT
    Aug. 10, 2011 2:24 p.m.

    Headlines of recent Deseret News articles:

    -Perception of Mitt Romney election to presidency would be similar to that of John F. Kennedy, scholar says
    -Coverage of Mormonism in campaigns sometimes unfair to evangelicals too
    -Fox News host: Romney not Christian
    -Jon Huntsman Jr. stands by his Mormon religion
    -Huffington Post: Pawlenty video aimed at Mormon faith of Romney and Huntsman
    -Mormon official challenges 'cult' designation
    -The Economist and other media consider why Mormonism carries agitation among many
    -LDS reporter who worked on Newsweek's 'Mormon Moment' story defends controversial cover
    -Controversial Mormon Newsweek sold out
    -'Mormons Rock!' says Newsweek cover story about LDS Church, Mitt Romney
    -Huntsman says his Mormon church membership is 'tough to define'
    -How defining were Jon Huntsman's comments on his Mormonism?
    -'I am Mormon,' Huntsman tells 'Good Morning America'
    -Mitt Romney, Jon Huntsman Jr. compete in Mormon primary
    -Mitt Romney, Jon Huntsman Jr. mull Mormon dilemma
    -Poll: Mormon church membership negative for Huntsman, Romney
    -Romney's religion unknown to most
    (a few more examples, but there is a word limit)

    I'd dare say that the Deseret News has made much more of an issue of Romney's religion than Barack Obama ever will.

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 10, 2011 2:19 p.m.

    'It's amusing to me that Obama views Romney as such a viable threat...' - Johnny Triumph | 1:46 p.m. Aug. 10, 2011

    'Obama may end up helping Romney's campaign ....' - Rifleman | 1:20 p.m. Aug. 10, 2011

    'I don't see what's so wrong with the report...' - DeltaFoxtrot | 1:20 p.m. Aug. 10, 2011

    That's the problem. People have become so guilible by the 'news' that they have forgotten...

    Obama has NOT called Romney's religion 'weird'. Or anything else.

    Obama, and his campaign, haven't actually SAID anything yet!

    For shame on you Deseret News.

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 10, 2011 2:04 p.m.

    'Desnews is reporting facts--Its a fact that the media outlets cited in this story said what they were quoted as saying...' - MollyMormon | 1:09 p.m. Aug. 10, 2011

    Um, no.

    A 'fact' would have a STATEMENT from the Obama campaign actually MAKING this claim.

    Since that has not happened, the DSNews has chosen to publish HERESAY as a news article.

    Next, they will be telling us you can get Papsmears at Walgreens.

    *'Walgreens Corrects Fox & Friends: We Don't Offer Pap Smears' - Media Matters - 04/11/11

    On Saturday's Fox & Friends, co-hosts Steve Doocy and Brian Kilmeade attempted to dismiss the importance of Planned Parenthood funding by claiming that services like pap smears are available "at Walgreens'. In response to an email about the segment, a Walgreens spokesperson told Media Matters that they do not offer such services.

    When did the DSNews trade in on it's journalistic integrity?

  • Johnny Triumph American Fork, UT
    Aug. 10, 2011 1:46 p.m.

    It's amusing to me that Obama views Romney as such a viable threat and makes me assume that Obama himself understands that he has a good shot of losing a reelection bid. If he were not so concerned then why would he bring up a topic that evangelicals will probably raise anyway? This whole thing will just keep getting more and more amusing as we get closer to Nov 2012! I, for one, can't wait to watch the theater play out and see just how desperate the President gets.

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 10, 2011 1:39 p.m.

    *'President Obama's purported 'weird'-Mormon strategy against Mitt Romney will backfire, pundits say' - Title

    Oh NOW it's 'purported'?

    Yesterday Obama's campaign was going to 'Kill Romney.'

    All this 'outrage' and violent rhetoric from the right about Obama targeting the leading GOP canidate, but they don't say ANYTHING about Romney targeting Obama...

    *'Mitt Romney says Obama failed America' - By Liz Sidoti - AP - Published by DSNews - 02/08/10

    Just more distraction from the real issues:

    *Firm dissolves after giving pro-Romney PAC $1 million By Ken Thomas AP Published by DSNews 08/04/11

    *'Let Detroit Go Bankrupt' - By Mitt Romney - NY Times - 11/18/08

    Mitt Romney on Job creation:
    From 2003-2007 job growth....0.9%.
    In rankings with the rest of the country...MA was 47th in Job creation when Mitt Romney was there.
    - Think Progress Travis Waldron 06/02/11

    Conservatives have to make them up, instead.

    Want more evidence?

    *'Trump on Obama's Birth Certificate: 'Maybe It Says He's a Muslim' - Fox Nation - 03/30/11

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    Aug. 10, 2011 1:20 p.m.

    Obama may end up helping Romney's campaign .... assuming the Democrats don't nominate Hillary to run in Obama's place.

  • DeltaFoxtrot West Valley, UT
    Aug. 10, 2011 1:20 p.m.

    I don't see what's so wrong with the report, of course Obama will fail. But it won't be because of any campaign trick... it will simply be that he can't stand on his record. Blaming the GOP and Tea Party just isn't going to fly when debate time comes around.

    Funny world we live in... a month ago Obama had the election in the bag b/c the GOP couldn't put up a strong candidate. Now he's lost it all, and he doesn't even know it yet.

  • isrred Logan, UT
    Aug. 10, 2011 1:17 p.m.

    Obama should call him "peculiar". LDS folks will think its a compliment.

  • MollyMormon Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 10, 2011 1:09 p.m.


    Desnews is reporting facts--Its a fact that the media outlets cited in this story said what they were quoted as saying--the other papers are the ones doing the commentary.

  • cla Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 10, 2011 12:34 p.m.

    Seriously...when is the Desnews going to become a newspaper again? You're agenda has become so transparent. Are you on Mitt's campaign payroll? Please start reporting facts instead of spreading this barrage of misinformation. You are doing your readers, and democracy, a disservice.