Warren Jeffs' grip on polygamous church likely to remain

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  • John Pack Lambert of Michigan Ypsilanti, MI
    Aug. 10, 2011 9:28 p.m.

    It is easy to make comparisons if you ignore details in the comparison. It is easy to make comparisons if you act as if laws on statutory rape are based on principals of biology. In fact they are based on principals of psychology, and the relevant human development and potential issues change over time.

    That said, I would go so far as to argue that the inprisoning of Warren Jeffs is a case of grosse cultural imperialism. I am not sure that is a bad thing, because I reject cultural relativism and the view that all cultures are of equal validity. Of course this is also why I reject the vast majority of modern intelectual progressivism, because it is built around the central edifice of cultural relativity.

    The fact that these same cultural relativists so rarely stand up for men like Warren Jeffs who act appropriately within their own culture is one of the reasons why I think progressive intelectualism is morally bankrupt. It is extremely racist, and only allows people to act on their own culture if they are not white Americans. It is also extremely racist in that it values the lives of Muslim women less.

  • LValfre CHICAGO, IL
    Aug. 10, 2011 11:30 a.m.

    Mischevious, I've tried and tried to make the same correlation with another propeht but whenever I do, it gets denied. Truth hurts ... but its still truth. He was just following the original LDS founder, who did a very similar thing.

  • Mischevious Ogden, UT
    Aug. 10, 2011 10:51 a.m.

    A prophet going to jail, only because of what God commanded him to do. For some reason this is a similar story to another prophet I have heard of. I bet the FLDS members are taking this as a testimony builder as trials of their faith.

  • firstamendment Lehi, UT
    Aug. 10, 2011 9:51 a.m.

    I'm a supporter of prop 08 and other constitutions which prevent polygamy, child marriages (one WOMAN one man), and other harmful marriages.

    What this man did was wrong, and I wish we would pursue other sexual predators, pedophiles, and seducing pressuring deviants with such vigor.

    However, I don't feel that consenting adult polygamists all fall into the same category (with pedophiles etc), and it would be a mistake for us to pass judgement and lump all of them in with Jeffs. It's also wrong to promote hatred towards religions based on those like Jeffs(see above)

    I met some FLDS female missionaries years ago, before Jeffs. They were bold, independent, and one said she wasn't going to be a polygamist but believed in it as a principle, the other said she wanted to be a polygamist. I'm not sure that we have a right to arrest her for that, although, as I said, I don't think we should show our support by legally condoning it through marriage.

    The idea that all polygamist women were oppressed, blind, fanatics is also wrong.

    Polygamist women were some of Americas first female Doctors, Lawyers, voters, etc. Things weren't always as they are now.

  • ClarkKent Bountiful, Utah
    Aug. 10, 2011 9:08 a.m.

    Personally, I think the US Gov't should get involved and break up this church and take its assets as it is nothing more than a disguised ring for male predators.

  • Ms Molli Bountiful, Utah
    Aug. 10, 2011 8:50 a.m.

    UtahBlueDevil, in an earlier article posted by DN (2-3 days ago) they said the fathers willingly turned over their young daughters to Jeffs in exchange for a young bride that Jeffs gave to each of the fathers. Seems to me this so called religion attracts male predators.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Aug. 10, 2011 8:04 a.m.

    It just goes to prove that people will believe what they want to believe. It is unimaginable that parents were turning their 12 year old daughters over to this man, to gain spiritual salvation. This is an extreme case, but it happens every single day in both religion and politics. People shape their own morality around what serves them best.

    At least this man is gone..... but what about the parents that let this happen to their kids.... and thought it right and just.