Utah Utes football: Backup QBs don't have experience

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  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    Aug. 10, 2011 10:40 a.m.


    The Dnews article over the weekend said Doman is still adding things and changing plays. No check.

    One season doesn't make players veterans, especially when that season was barely a winning one. No check.

    10-3 is always better than 7-6 and who did we play in that bowl game? Oh, that's right, a team that was in the National Title picture most of the season.

    No depth at QB. Yeah, that's what I said. Name your back ups behind Nelson and tell me how much experience they have. And if you consider Nelson a solid backup after last season, I feel sorry for you. No check

    Familiar faces, but not in familiar places. Virtually the entire offensive coaching staff has new positions and at least one of them has never coached before. Proving themselves? That comes in the games, not in practice. No check.

    Like I said, plenty of problems in Provo. Including the fact that the fans, coaches and the Dnews don't want to acknowledge the problems. I sure hope the coaches are privately seeing them and working on them.

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    Aug. 10, 2011 10:29 a.m.

    scenic view,

    A couple of corrections to your comments:

    QB's - Jake Heaps is learning a totally new offense. It took him over half the season last year to get a handle on the old offense. We'll see how he does.

    Jordan Wynn's shoulder shows no sign of weakness at this point and the coaches are very confident that he knows the offense well enough to thrive. Unless you have an inside source of information not available to the rest of us, you're just making stuff up.

    O-line - You've got one top ten lineman, that doesn't make your whole line top ten.

    We've got an All-American and Outland Trophy candidate as well. We may not have deep experience, but we have deep talent.

    RB's - We shut down your RB's last year and you have the same guys coming back. They don't scare me.

  • Classless Ute Fan Magna, UT
    Aug. 10, 2011 1:40 a.m.


    ***Yes Utah leads head to head but of course none of that occured in any of our lifetimes, for as long as we have been alive BYU has a huge lead head to head.***

    Yes, I know that 6 of the last 10 and 11 of the last 20 isn't in your life time, because you died 20 years ago? In the last 20 years, Utah has been the better team. (most college kids aren't more than 20)

    ***BYU is much more of a national brand, has many, many, many more nationally recognized accomplishments, is much more recognized nationally, simply put BYU's last 40 years eclipses anything Utah has done in the last 120 years.***

    By accomplishments do you mean that the media voted for you and gave you a prize? If winning a popularity contest gives you warm fuzzies in your heart, then I'm glad for you. But it doesn't mean that BYU is better. Aside from the beauty pageant prizes, BYU has NOTHING on Utah.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Aug. 9, 2011 9:07 p.m.

    typo.... Wynns near injury!

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Aug. 9, 2011 9:06 p.m.

    momo ute

    BYU's problems? New offense, no depth at QB, total redo of offensive coaching staff, last years 7-6 record....Do you need me to go on?

    New offense... went over these things in early spring with QB... check

    Utes going thru same thing... uh, QB playing catch up and nursing an injury... Chow nursing a near heart attack from last week's blown paly and Heaps near injury... hope that works for you

    7-6 record... recovered and won it's meager bowl game. Youngsters are now veterans.... check

    10-3 Utes... lost their bowl game, lost to all formidable opponents on national tv and almost to a 7-6 team by the skin of their teeth... other games were squeekers too.... hope that works for you

    No depth at QB... you kidding? What a lame comment and you know it... check

    redo of coaching staff...

    BYU has familiar faces at staff... all doing ok and will prove themselves quite well... check

    Chow as a Ute, he'll last as long as your QB does. If Wynn goes down he takes Chow along with him on the 'Life Flight'

    Compared to the Utes... Cougars have ZERO problems.


  • scenic view Baltimore, MD
    Aug. 9, 2011 7:08 p.m.

    Mormon Ute

    There are four huge differences between BYU's offense and Utah's offense for 2011:

    Quarterback - both are learning new offenses

    BYU has one of the best young quarterbacks in the country, schooled in the fundamentals since he was a youngster, with a rifle arm, who's spent the last 6 months learning BYU's offense and developing timing with his receivers on the field.

    Utah has a wounded quarterback, whose shoulder may or may not hold up for an entire season, with limited arm strength, serious problems with confidence in himself and from his teammates, and everything he knows about the offense and his receivers he's learned in the film room or from the side lines.


    Offensive Line

    BYU has one of the Top 10 offensive lines in the country with great depth.

    Utah has an average offensive line at best with virtually no depth.


    Running Back

    BYU is loaded with talented and experienced running backs.

    Utah has talent, but absolutely no experience; in fact one of Utah's top running backs is a rugby player who is just learning the game of football.



    BYU is loaded with talented and experienced receivers.

    Utah has some talent, but virtually no experience.

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    Aug. 9, 2011 1:34 p.m.


    The following is quoted from a Dnews article titled, "Brandon Doman shows of a new, dynamic offense."

    "...Elements taken from Sid Luckman and Doug Scovil; formations used by Bill Walsh, and a strong tinge of LaVell Edwards in the days he hired a daring and creative Dewey Warren just after the Vietnam War.

    What we saw Saturday was a multi-dimensional West Coast offense designed to make a defense cover the entire field on every play. And not be predictable.

    New offensive coordinator Brandon Doman wants to run an offense that will keep defenses guessing, off-balance and on their collective heels.

    Every offense would like to do just that, of course. But that wasn't exactly BYU the past five seasons.

    Doman likes what Boise State does and doesn't mind plagiarizing."

    Wow, that sure sounds like a new offensive scheme to me.

    It's a big jump from QB coach to coordinator and Doman was hired to change the offense, because of last season's struggles. Who is in denial??

    Sure, BYU improved last season, but still lost to the team you can't stop criticizing and now your players are learning a new offense. Did I say anything that isn't true?

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    Aug. 9, 2011 1:11 p.m.


    Riley Nelson failed miserably last year and can hardly be considered a capable backup to Jake Heaps. Yes, he played a whole season before his mission, but where was that? USU? Wow, that's a powerful offense to be in charge of. If he had stayed at USU, he might still be the starter. LOL Can you name the active QB's on the roster behind Nelson who have done anything to prove themselves in D1 play? C'mon, back up your bravado.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Aug. 9, 2011 10:53 a.m.

    @mormon ute

    You are almost unhinged over this and that tells me that you have some serious concern, I'd say you'rr scared to death frankly, that utah is in for a very mediocre season. It's ok, you're not alone in those fears nor are you alone in your denial of it.

    Then there is the small fact that you keep posting less than truthful stuff.

    1st of all BYU is not running a new scheme as you claim. Doman is certainly tayloing the offense to his philosophy but BYU is still running a west coast pro style offense.

    utah is completely changing their scheme, to the BYU offense actually, and has a completely new coordinator doing it. Maybe you didn't notice that Doman has been on the BYU staff for several years and coached the qb's?

    Then of course BYU fans can see a definate improvement and a strong finish last year. utah "fans" can see a near complete collapse followed by the loss of half the roster.

    I know reality is somehow hard to deal with but it is still reality anyway.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Aug. 9, 2011 10:45 a.m.

    @mormon ute

    "BYU's problems...no depth at QB"


    Please stop humiliating yourself with comments like that. Just because a BYU poster tells some truth about utah on here doesn't mean you should go off and post ridiculous stuff to try and get some "revenge". That was a really ridiculous thing to say considering BYU has three top 20 prep qb recruits on their current roster, including the #1 overall, plus another qb (Nelson) that has the equivalent of an entire season of starting between his freshman year at usu and last year at BYU.


  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Aug. 9, 2011 10:41 a.m.


    BYU did field a team for a couple of years in the 1890's and then did not have one for almost 30 years until they started playing in the 1920's. Since utah played all of those years BYU didn't it stands to reason they would have more over all wins with that 30 year head start.

    As to your other stats, well they are pretty close actually. Yes utah leads head to head but of course none of that occured in any of our lifetimes, for as long as we have been alive BYU has a huge lead head to head.

    You can claim anything you want to claim, I don't really care, the truth is BYU is much more of a national brand, has many, many, many more nationally recognized accomplishments, is much more recognized nationally, simply put BYU's last 40 years eclipses anything utah has done in the last 120 years.

    utah has 2 bowl wins that they hang their hats on. Those were nice accomplishments, I've never denied it, but it hasn't all of a sudden elevated them to national prominence despite your attempts to convince us they have been.

    Just the facts.

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    Aug. 9, 2011 10:19 a.m.


    So a new offensive scheme at Utah is somehow a bad thing, but at BYU it's a good thing? I guess the way your offense performed last year that is true, but your team is going to have just as hard a time learning then new scheme as our guys and from what the papers are saying Doman has added a bunch of new stuff since spring so they are still learning. At least we have some new players coming in who don't have to unlearn the previous scheme.

    Crash and burn, huh? What do you call a 7-6 record? Against stiff competition on the road? You lost to Nevada and Florida State AT HOME. I'll give you the fact that Air Force, Utah Statem TCU and Utah were hostile environments and a couple of those were stiff competition, but Utah State??? So, you are counting Utah as stiff competition...? I'll go along with that. Funny how your team can lose to TCU 31-3, but when the Utes lose to that same team it is a disgrace. Not sure how you work that out in your mind. I'll take 10-3 over 7-6 any day.

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    Aug. 9, 2011 10:05 a.m.


    BYU's problems? New offense, no depth at QB, total redo of offensive coaching staff, last years 7-6 record....Do you need me to go on?

  • Classless Ute Fan Magna, UT
    Aug. 9, 2011 3:15 a.m.


    ***You see utah has been playing football for about 30 years longer than BYU has***

    The question could be asked, when did BYU start? Is it 1862 when the school was first started, 1875 as claimed by the school, (when the school was purchased), or 1903?

    Don't most learning institutions claim their sports history before they became a "University", like Boise St, UNLV, Oregon St, ect. Therefore, I'm not sure why BYU doesn't claim that they had a football program in 1896. According to BYU, the institution started in 1875. BYA fielded a team in 1896. BYU may have taken a hiatus from fielding a team for ~20 years, but they had a team in 1896 and for a couple of years after. I know that Utah didn't play 30 years before 1896. So, why are you discounting this?

    The all time win stat might not be a fair measure. Yet it proves that Utah does have a longer, better history. I noticed you couldn't downplay any of my other facts stating that Utah is the best team. Besides, "best team" really is a matter of opinion. IMHO, and factually, Utah is historically better.

    Go Utes!!!

  • Classless Ute Fan Magna, UT
    Aug. 9, 2011 12:45 a.m.


    ***We have have two backups who were given starters' reps all spring, and both looked horrible.***

    We only have 1 backup that looked horrible in Spring. The other changed position. We have a new back up named Jon Hays. He is looking much better than the other 2 did.

  • MichiganCoog Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Aug. 8, 2011 10:19 p.m.


    BYU doesn't have many problems to be concerned about this year, because they weathered those problems last year, against very stiff competition on the road, in hostile environments. Utah is about to go thru some major problems, because lack of experience, last year's crash and burn ending, with replacement players with little to no experience whatsoever replacing those "crash-and-burn" veterans that looked so good against TCU, Notre Dame, and Boise State...even BYU (who lost by a bad call, and just plain bad freshman luck), will not make those same mistakes this year.

    Utah will, and you'll see it when they finish no better than 6-6. Granted, if J. Wynn can last the entire year without a scratch, 7-5 or 8-4 might even be possible. Don't count on it though, cause he's fragile and will most likely go down to some form of injury due to his lanky frame...especially during the grind of the PAC10.2 vs. the pushover MWC that he fattened up on the last 2 years...

    I guess we'll all see...

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Aug. 8, 2011 9:10 p.m.

    @ mormomute

    "... more concerned about this issue than they are their own problems..."

    And what problems are the Cougars having??? Definitely not QBs, recruiting, or TV coverage.

    I'm genuinely concerned like other fans. We don't need scores like 7-47, 3-28, and 3-26. At least if it happens this year it won't likely happen on national tv. Ouch.

  • raisedaute Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Aug. 8, 2011 5:50 p.m.

    @ altahawks ducky michiganCoog sammyg

    All I can say about bringing in a JC QB is one thing Cam Newton

    Just go back to your cougar articles and play there.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Aug. 8, 2011 12:51 p.m.

    @mormon ute

    Well you might have a point if the pac10 network was currently available nationwide. It isn't. It is available on a few cable systems, no sattelite systems, and has large holes in its coverage. When it is actually available nationwide, and before next season, then I will honor my promise. Until then you keep making up truths and pretending it is other people that are being dishonest. How pathetic is that.

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    Aug. 8, 2011 12:26 p.m.


    We have the quote, you didn't say next season you said next year. Just looking at my calendar that would be 2012. Your credibility continues to sink with every comment you make on Ute articles.

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    Aug. 8, 2011 12:23 p.m.

    It's so funny to see all the BYU fans more concerned about this issue than they are their own problems and the Dnews is on the same band wagon. While the Dnews and BYU fans have made such a big deal of Utah having a new offensive scheme with Coach Chow and how much of a challenge it is for the players to learn, they turn around and try to put a positive spin on the same situation at BYU. If a new offensive scheme and inexperienced back up QB's is a problem for Utah (a team the went 10-3 last season) shouldn't those issues be of even greater concern for BYU (a team that went 7-6 last season)?

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    Aug. 8, 2011 12:14 p.m.

    Somehow I knew Duckhunter wouldn't honor his commitment to stay off the Utah articles.

    Shall we look at BYU's back up situation? Riley Nelson certainly didn't pan out as a starter and his previous school was Utah State.

  • Papa Smurf UTE Herriman, UT
    Aug. 8, 2011 11:58 a.m.


    Actually there were I believe 16 people in the AP that voted the UTES # 1. Whit was the only one that voted them number 1 in the BCS/Coaches Poll, because the rules for the vote with the coaches poll/BCS has to vote the winner of the BCS title game as # 1. Who knows if other coaches would have voted them # 1 had that rule not been in place. Just like the little Y 84, the UTES were the only undefeated team in the nation that year. Except in 84, the BCS & the rule for coaches voting had not been set in place, & the Y won the NCG. I cannot take that away from them, & it is a great accopmlishment. UTE fans would love to have a title in football. In 2003 Elliot went down, Alex Smith had played 5 plays in his life, & he did very well I think. Same with when BJ went down. Ratliff came in, beat the Y his first game, then crushed 24th ranked Georgia Tech in the bowl game. We wont know how good or bad a backup will be until they get into a game. Go UTES!

  • thebigsamoan Richmond, VA
    Aug. 8, 2011 11:36 a.m.

    Both Utah and Byu need to make sure they win both their first two games before they meet up on the 17th. If they both come in 0 and 2, then all this preseason excitement would be out the window. I think it's time for fans on both sides to root for each other and stop this silly bantering back and forth as to who's better until the two meet on the field every year from now on. I would love to see Utah win out at the Pac every year and then loose only to Byu and I'm sure the Utes would love that too for Byu and then loose only to Utah. That would be so awesome for the state of Utah football.

  • Vegas Las Vegas, NV
    Aug. 8, 2011 11:28 a.m.

    The problem with lack of depth, especially at QB, is the time it takes to get up to speed. PAC-12 ball is going to be a lot quicker and more intense than what the backups are used to, and even if they get up to par fast (3-4 weeks), it'll ruin the season (see Oklahoma and Sam Bradford).

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Aug. 8, 2011 10:26 a.m.


    utah wasn't the "best team in the nation" in 2008 by anyones estimation other than some utah "fans" like yourself. No one voted them #1 other than whittingham.

    But of course chow was being evasive. He basicly made a comment that is meaningless and applies to everyone while purposely avoiding the real issue of the backups not being any good. Also the utes aren't putting a premium on protecting wynn because he is so great, they are putting a premium on protecting him because they litterally don't have anything else. That doesn't mean he is all that great either just that he is all they've got.

  • Thlete Draper, UT
    Aug. 8, 2011 10:17 a.m.

    The better your QB is, the more concerned you are about protecting him. Whitt calls protecting Wynn "job 1" not only because the backups aren't as good, but because Wynn is THAT good. Don't you think that Stanford has the same concern with Luck? Had Brian Johnson gone down, there's little doubt 2008 Utes would not have been the best team in the nation. Look what happened at OU when Bradford went down in the first game of 2009, it's just rarely a good thing to lose your starting QB in college ball. So I think Chow is accurate in deflecting the question that Utah's worries are not unique.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Aug. 8, 2011 9:14 a.m.

    Oh by the way Troy Hinds just committed to BYU.


  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Aug. 8, 2011 9:09 a.m.


    "512 better than 627 (all time wins)"

    I always like it when you post this little peice of misleading info, which you've done many, many times. You see utah has been playing football for about 30 years longer than BYU has, utah started in the 1890's whereas BYU didn't start until the 1920's. But don't let actual facts get in the way of you trying to make a misleading point.


  • Dutchman Murray, UT
    Aug. 8, 2011 8:59 a.m.


    So let it be written, so let it be done. Your comment and promise is duly noted in the file.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    Aug. 8, 2011 8:49 a.m.


    I went to a bunch of spring practices and the red & white game. While none of Utah's backup QB's are as good as Jordan Wynn, none of them would lose to Utah State by 15 either.

    2nd-string Utah QB >>> Riley Nelson

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Aug. 8, 2011 8:49 a.m.


    If, and when, the pac10 network is actually available nationwide I will keep my promise. It is not now. It is only available on a few cable networks and is nowhere close to "nationwide" at this point. There are massive holes in its footprint. Remember it has to be done before the next season starts. If I was you I wouldn't bet on that.

  • Swoop Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 8, 2011 8:46 a.m.

    "A backup with no experience is still better than a backup named Riley Nelson."

    You obviously didn't watch any of Utah's spring practices.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    Aug. 8, 2011 8:30 a.m.

    A backup with no experience is still better than a backup named Riley Nelson. Anyone remember 31-16 Utah State?

  • Balan South Jordan, Utah
    Aug. 8, 2011 8:05 a.m.

    So if Wynn flops and the backup quarterbacks struggle, you can always turn to your experienced running backs!

    Seriously guys, I don't know how anyone can feel confident going into this season. I am afraid that Utah's performance on the field very well could show PAC-10.2 to be accurate.

  • govt rocks Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 8, 2011 8:04 a.m.

    Kam Ute: that was Brett Elliott who went down in the Texas A&M game, he left the program the following year. Ratliff came in when Brian Johnson was injured near the end of the game against New Mexico and then, in his first start, led Utah to a road win against BYU and then an Emarald Bowl victory over Georgia Tech. I think this is an example of experience not being an issue. Any team that has a big separation between the starter and the back up has concerns about injury. Sometimes the back up picks up the ball and rolls with, sometimes they don't.

    I am sure USC, Stanford, Oregon, ASU, UA all have similar concerns if their starter goes down.

  • Ufan Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 8, 2011 6:44 a.m.

    I don't like how Coach Chow is minimizing Utah's backup QB situation. Yes, most programs don't have experienced backups, but the problem for Utah goes much deeper. We have an injury-prone junior QB who's never played an entire season and missed all of spring practice after surgery on his throwing shoulder. We have have two backups who were given starters' reps all spring, and both looked horrible. If Wynn goes down, we're in serious trouble at QB.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Aug. 8, 2011 6:32 a.m.

    Ducky, you are dead on and it's hilarious to see several of these Ute fans just brush this so called 'non-issue' off, all because Coach Chow says it's normal.

    We all know that Chow and company about had a heart attack when Wynn went down last week. Heck, they will probably have "Life Flight' helicopters on standby for something like this in the future. Wynn goes down, start the helicopters for Chow and several fans.

    The Spring Red / White game revealed the weakness at the position and last week's collision exposed again the precipitious position the Utes are in.

    Sure Chow is right about the backup experience equation but simply excusing the current situation as something as normal and acceptable does not make it go away for the Utes.

    Wynn is 10x the QB over Shreeve and everyone will be having a cow if something happens to Wynn. Watching every game with the fear of knowing your one and only good QB is all that you got brings a certain 'cliff hanger' element to each game.

    Really puts the pressure on the O line to do something outstanding everytime. We shall see.

    I'm not worried about BYU.

  • kitsutsuki South Jordan, Utah
    Aug. 8, 2011 6:31 a.m.

    I guarantee you Utah is concerned about the quarterback position. First of all Wynn is a concern. Only time will tell but he HAS to perform. And if he goes down then all bets are off.

  • AltaHawkFan Sandy, UT
    Aug. 8, 2011 2:22 a.m.

    Good ol' norm telling half-truths again. He is correct that most college teams don't have backup QB's with experience. What he's not telling you though is that nearly all college teams have QB backups with more than 5 min in the program. Most college team's backup QB at least knows the name of his offensive linemen and the plays he's supposed to run.

    Be afraid ute fans. If wynn goes down, your already pathetic offense will grind to a halt completely.

  • Classless Ute Fan Magna, UT
    Aug. 7, 2011 11:46 p.m.


    ***You are dead on about Wynn's backups...go no further than that 7-0 nail-biter in the Utes spring game, as evidence to show how ugly things could get.***

    You see, that would only be accurate if both of the backups were actually in the Spring game. Jon Hays just joined Utah for Fall Camp.

    ***and return less experience than what they ended the season with is just plain scary...***

    Didn't Ducky just say that experience isn't that big of a deal? So, you agreed with him and then now you don't? I don't get it.

    ***Good thing I cheer for the best team in the State of Utah (TDS)***

    Yep, 7-6 is better than 10-3 (last year's record), 512 better than 627 (all time wins), 56% TDS is better than 58% Utah (all time win %), and 34 better than 54 (head to head). Logic dictates that I cheer for the best team in the State of Utah, Utah!!!

    P.S. Thank you for your interest. I know that I'm sure excited to see them play in PAC12 games this year. Go Utes!!!

  • Veritas Aequitas Fruit Heights, UT
    Aug. 7, 2011 10:43 p.m.

    Rock of the Marne, Wiley Old School:

    A whole post dedicated to a "mid-maajor troll"?

    I thought you were BCS Rock.

    Maybe you can move past the duckhunter?

    Many back-up QB's have replaced a starter and done well. The key is to keep Wynn safe and prepare the best with the personnel that you have. I'm sure Chow is on top of it. That is why they pay him the $$$.

    I'll personally scratch this off my list of things to worry about.

  • MichiganCoog Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Aug. 7, 2011 10:26 p.m.

    Good points Duckhunter. You are dead on about Wynn's backups...go no further than that 7-0 nail-biter in the Utes spring game, as evidence to show how ugly things could get. As fragile as J. Wynn is, I'd be dang scared if I were a Ute fan right now...they are 1 hit away from a complete disaster for their inaguraly PAC10.2 season.

    Yes, the Utes could actually be pretty good this year, especially on defense, but offense? Based on how they crashed and burned at the end of last season, and return less experience than what they ended the season with is just plain scary...

    Good thing I cheer for the best team in the State of Utah (TDS) that has plenty to be excited for the coming season ahead, and for years to come.

    Go Cougs!

  • Wiley Old School RIC, VA
    Aug. 7, 2011 10:21 p.m.

    Duckhunter, how come you aren't honoring your promise to not post on Ute articles for a full year? The key word is "honor." When does the clock start?

  • Rock Of The Marne Phoenix, AZ
    Aug. 7, 2011 10:15 p.m.

    Awh Ducky is back with his dower forebodings for the Utes. It's like a black cloud following the program when he speaks. Thank goodness it is all just the wishful thinking on his part, a fan of the mid major team in Provo, with nothing better to do than troll U of U stories. You are legend Ducky with your Debbie Downer attitude.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Aug. 7, 2011 9:59 p.m.

    Well chow is correct when he says the backups at most schools don't have much experience. They are backups after all. So the real issue isn't if they have experience, the issue is are they any good?

    If they are good then they can come in and perform adequately if the starter is injured and if they have to play for several weeks, or the remainder of the season, they will improve as they play.

    So that gets us to the real issue for utah, are their backups any good? Thus far none of them has shown anything. shreve was awful in the spring and the fact that the jc transfer appears to already be ahead of him shows he isn't much good. The jc transfer? Well the school he was origninally going to was some school in Nebraska none of us has ever heard of that dropped football.

    So in short utah fans chow is simply dodging the question with his claim that not many backups have much experience. Of course they don't. What you don't hear from him is that the backups at utah are any good. I'd be worried about that fact.

  • joek Bountiful, UT
    Aug. 7, 2011 9:53 p.m.

    I'd take a good-great backup QB with no experience any day over a mediocre-average back up QB. I think that was our biggest problem last year. Although I like Cain personally he wasn't anything more that a mediocre-average QB.

    Wynn got injured and even though Cain had the experience, it didn't help.

  • Moderate Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 7, 2011 9:42 p.m.

    How many complete games does Riley Nelson have?
    How much "experience" did he really get during the Bronco Wheel-O'-Quarterbacks experiment?

  • WhatsInItForMe Orem, Utah
    Aug. 7, 2011 9:32 p.m.

    College football is replete with backups coming in unannounced due to injury to the starter and having a great career in his place. Others can't carry their team at all, so the team tanks for the rest of that year.

    Sure, it'd help to have an experienced backup, but even that's no guarantee.

    Therefore, inexperienced backups is a non-issue because you don't know until you open the box of chocolates just what you're going to get.

  • MichiganCoog Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Aug. 7, 2011 8:42 p.m.

    Ok, go ahead an minimize the issue...I have to laugh about all of this, especially when all the Ute coaches just about had coronaries when Mr Wynn down after after someone accidently knock him over after a play. Don't downplay how important that Mr. Wynn stays healthy. Ya'll have nobody to come in to fill in without alot of grief and pain it will bring...better yet losses!

    It is good to have depth at every position (see the TDS). 3 deep at every position...nice time to have a solid program without any question marks...go Cougars!

  • KamUte South Jordan, UT
    Aug. 7, 2011 7:39 p.m.

    Brett Ratliffe was a stud qb when he broke his hand on the last play of the game against Texas A & M. Alex Smith came in and filled in nicely. Most programs have very little experience at backup and players adapt once given an opportunity.

    Aug. 7, 2011 6:00 p.m.

    Alex Smith was "just" a backup QB who worked out ok, dontcha think?

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    Aug. 7, 2011 5:56 p.m.

    I agree with Coach Chow. I have always wondered why so many people were making a big deal of the lack of experience at QB.