Union gives NBA players the OK to go abroad during lockout

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  • Jazz Source Alpine, UT
    July 17, 2011 9:13 p.m.

    Well, I guess D-Will signed to play overseas in Turkey. Maybe he and Memo will hookup in the homeland?

    I can't remember which local sports blowhard was adamantly bashing the idea that D-Will would play overseas and said it was all posturing to exert pressure by his agent.

    Talk show host seem to know less than the average sports fan. Surprise, surprise. Not. I thought players would be doing it as soon as the lockout happened...at least those players who just like to play. D-Will clearly does not need the money...he is just playing because he is competitive.

    See you around January when all the lower tier players have run out of money and the union crumbles.

  • panamadesnews Lindon, UT
    July 17, 2011 12:56 a.m.

    I do not understand why the league cannot just set a hard cap and eliminate the exceptions. The owners of the teams are the "employers" and the players are the "employees", so to speak. I would guess the players are more like independent contractors rather than employees. The NBA is doing the players a favor, making it possible for them to earn a living. The players are doing the league a favor, along with their teams, as they supply a product that is desired by those who purchase tickets, ie the "fans". Since the players have to sign a contract in order to play for the NBA, why can't the NBA control the amount of each contract to be assured it does not violate the NBA, rules, including the cap. The NBA just needs to set the hard cap, eliminate the exceptions, and advise the players union. If they do not accept, they can go their merry way. The NBA can hire replacement players if the players refuse to accept the contracts, the hard cap, etc. What am I missing?

  • WhatsInItForMe Orem, Utah
    July 14, 2011 8:13 p.m.

    @ Bear6,

    I wouldn't watch a replacement team. Teams are as much who the players are as who/where the team is.

    However, replacement refs were fun that year they did it, because they didn't give superstars super-leniency in calls. It allowed teams without a superstar or two to compete more fairly.

    Kinda like what happened to Duncan in his first Olympics games--he didn't get superstar treatment and spent more time on the bench than someone of his caliber is used to.

    That contrast sure showed how much prejudice there is in NBA refereeing in favor of established players. In some ways, that's a little bit okay, but I think they go overboard sometimes.

    I view most NBA refs as honest, but some I definitely don't care for, for the reasons stated.

  • Bear6 West Jordan, UT
    July 14, 2011 6:21 p.m.

    I truly hope the owners stick to their plans. Let the players go to Europe and earn much less. There are plenty of recent graduates from college that would love to have the opportunity to play. Owners should put together a "replacement" type team and have a season.

  • WhatsInItForMe Orem, Utah
    July 14, 2011 4:16 p.m.

    @ Zola South,

    NBA players are NOT hated. They're just on the wrong side of the hard cap issue. That's all. Solve that, and most fans will be happy, knowing that their small-market home team has an equal chance at a title because all teams have the same amount to spend on players.

    And, owners ARE forced to pay players a lot of money, otherwise some other team would get them. It's not like the owners are a cartel agreeing NOT to outbid each other for top talent.

    Top talent always goes to the highest bidder. And that's in spite of the fact that owners own the rights to players via the draft. Owning rights doesn't ensure you can underpay players and get away with it for very long.

    Even though a player is drafted by a team, they can elect to skip playing that year to nullify the team's hold on them, then be a free agent. Or, they can sign for as much as the owner wants to give them, but for a short time period with the ability to get into free agency quickly.

    Owners can't build and maintain a talented team by underpaying.

  • Darren R HERRIMAN, UT
    July 14, 2011 1:12 p.m.

    I agree with Large Tuna, let em walk. They will be back. Do you think the NBA couldn't go get some of those players that are over there playing in Eurpoe to come back to the states and play for 3-5 million a year. The players have zero chance of this going their way, they know that, thats why they are the ones doing all the talking in the media, trying to puff out their chests and make themselves look bigger than they are. That works on animal planet, not in the NBA. Players better cave or they will take a 75% paycut over the next couple of years.

  • Darren R HERRIMAN, UT
    July 14, 2011 1:07 p.m.

    Both sides are at fault, I would say more owners than players for putting up the type of cash they have to try to buy championships and paying the all star players. The only way this gets fixed is to let the players walk, Take a hard line due to the economy and put a hard cap on the league. If the players want to go play in Europe where they will be forgotten, let them. You are crazy if you don't think you can find some players to come in and play in the NBA for 3-5 million a year. You will have sub par talent for a couple of years, but eventually they will come back. How do the players have any pull when this is their only source of income. you are crazy if you think the owners are going cave on this one.

  • Zola South Oakland, CA
    July 14, 2011 11:35 a.m.

    I really don't understand all the hatred towards NBA players. The last time I checked nobody forced the owners to over pay them.

  • byronbca Salt Lake City, UT
    July 14, 2011 11:11 a.m.

    What Billy Hunter failed to mention was the fact that while European teams are more than willing to employ NBA stars, they are not willing to pay them anywhere near what they would be making in the NBA.

    There is a reason why the top European players come to the NBA and our top players stay here. This isn't going to scare GMs they know where the money is.

  • MGB Saint George, UT
    July 14, 2011 10:51 a.m.

    Let the NBA players go oversees and let the NBA owners hire the players from oversees. Then the NBA will have players that really want to play and are willing to do what it takes. I would rather watch a less talented player with heart than a greedy talented player.

  • Large Tuna Salt Lake City, UT
    July 14, 2011 9:10 a.m.

    The irony of this whole thing is that players complain that they aren't making enough money here, yet they're going to europe for a fraction of what their pay would be if they were to just go along with the new proposed CBA from the owners. I'm sure the owners are ok with them leaving to europe because A: it only helps the argument that players can make do with a smaller salary since the players themselves are taking the initiative to make less, and B: its a good wake up call to the pampered players when they go to these other leagues and dont get babied like they do here, they'll come crawling back.

    ... and the NBA will never bite the dust, too much money involved. if anything else they'd just go get new players and keep the league going. NBA players have too much ego at stake to give up basketball out of principle.

  • yarrlydarb Ogden, UT
    July 14, 2011 7:50 a.m.

    And if the NBA actually bit the dust, would anyone attend the funeral?

    Not I.

  • WhatsInItForMe Orem, Utah
    July 13, 2011 11:01 p.m.

    I think the biggest sticking point is about the hard cap. Players don't want their contracts limited (they want a "sky's the limit" future), and owners want a level playing field (at least the majority of the teams).

    It's greed on the part of the players and survival on the part of the poorer owners who can't afford to buy a championship.

    I'm getting to like college basketball a whole lot more than the pro version. Too many "entitled" pro athletes anymore.

    Long gone are the likes of Stockton. He didn't even have an agent, did he?

  • Anonigma Murray, UT
    July 13, 2011 10:14 p.m.

    I don't get it.

    If D-Will plays in Euro for 33% of what he was making before, then doesn't that tell everyone that the players are willing to just give in to the new CBA?!?!