Mormon women, incredible intellectuals

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  • Froggey Cedar Hills, UT
    July 2, 2011 8:19 a.m.

    When they say the glory of God is intelligence, there is no gender mentioned. Females have every right, both inside and outside the church, to optimize their intellectual potential.

  • @Charles the greater outdoors, UT
    July 1, 2011 2:22 p.m.

    @HVH: wearing your victim hat very well today.

    Who treats women as accessories? What does women's names in the BOM have to do with the price of tea in China let alone how "intellectual" a woman may or may not be? Seriously, where do you come up with this stuff? You get it from the LDS Feminist websites!

    What about the church and a woman's place? No details to support any of your silly comments. Do you have any facts for anything?

    Maybe when you die you can ask our Mother in Heaven what She thinks of your little tirade.

    It's so crystal clear that so many LDS women are duped by the feminist movement since the 60's. So many of these websites mingle scripture with the philosophies of men AND WOMEN and then wonder why they aren't happy in their marriage, why they aren't considered intellectuals, why they aren't taken seriously and the ever present --- What's in it for me?

    I know many spiritual LDS women who know and understand the gospel and who cherish it with all their heart. They don't seek a place in the "intellectual" world --- they know where their reward is.

  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    July 1, 2011 12:40 p.m.

    @Charles said: It sounds like it affects the lives of these ladies who are now on a hunt to produce their own list -- just for women. How sweet.

    How condescending of you Charles, perhaps if the little women weren't treated as accessories, that men may reproduce. This would be a great step in treating people how they should be treated, NOT because society says so but because it is The Right thing to do.

    @Charles said: I'm so tired of the "I'm offended" crowd and how society continually wants to segregate society into classes so the people they assign to those classes can be pampered.

    Like the Church and a Women's place?

    How intellectual or independent of a thinker can you be, if you need a husband and his "given authority" for your own Eternal salvation. Then again maybe that will keep you married if your eternal soul is at stake?
    And how many Women are mentioned by name in the BOM?

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    July 1, 2011 12:32 p.m.

    I have known a number of Mormon women who are world class intellectuals. But they put their family's needs first, so they are not known (I don't diasgree with this). There are plenty of female LDS intellectuals.

    July 1, 2011 10:40 a.m.

    Bravo WAVE. We need more people like you in the world and in the church!

  • @Charles the greater outdoors, UT
    July 1, 2011 8:52 a.m.

    I get the feeling that this WAVE project is by a group who feels like they are being left behind. Who knows why it's always a comparison race with women to "be equal" with men. It sounds of cries "What about us?"

    Men and women are different. There is a reason? sure.

    In reality, does anyone care about this list and if you do, why? How does it affect your daily life?

    It sounds like it affects the lives of these ladies who are now on a hunt to produce their own list -- just for women. How sweet. And when that list is compiled and noted, then what?

    I'm so tired of the "I'm offended" crowd and how society continually wants to segregate society into classes so the people they assign to those classes can be pampered.

    I'd suggest to those who are offended that no women were on the original list that you worry about your own relationship with the Savior and forget all the nonsense that society is indoctrinating you with. It's obviously not healthy and is apparently a distraction for many.

  • cjb Bountiful, UT
    July 1, 2011 8:14 a.m.

    LDS women are generally not intellectual. In fact I can't think of one. They don't focus on such things. For that matter neither are most LDS men. The LDS church is not intellectually focused. That was not true in earlier times. Joseph Smith and Brigham Young tried to teach the church higher level things, but the people converted to the church were not those type of people, so the LDS church went down a different road.

  • pragmatistferlife salt lake city, utah
    July 1, 2011 7:45 a.m.

    Helloo, first of all..Adam and Eve, seriously? Secondly even do you know what their family was like except Eve incubated and delivered the babies. Thirdly, traditional by whose standards. If Adam and Eve were the father and mother of all peoples..well male and female roles certainly are'nt the same across cultures or races.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    July 1, 2011 7:09 a.m.

    Men and women have different roles but are equal partners in the best marriages! Sometimes role reversal is necessary but not ideal for the family as has been demonstrated time and time again.

  • Deborah Huntington, WV
    June 30, 2011 4:36 p.m.

    Brigham Young when asked about education for the youth made a statement to the effect that if he could only educate a fraction of his children, he would choose to educate his daughters over his sons.

    Educating his sons would benefit their families, but to educate his daughters would benefit their families for generations to come.

    I have actually spoke at a priesthood meeting, and have been present when men have spoken at women's meetings.

    So, it does happen.

  • Hellooo Salt Lake City, UT
    June 30, 2011 9:09 a.m.

    Sounds like a great project, and WAVE's efforts are commendable. The traditional role of woman and men working together to support and nuture their families as established and noted by Father Adam and his eternal mate Eve provides the opportunity for both sexes to be involved in all aspects of this wonder gifted to us by our Father that we call life and living.

  • Lane Myer Salt Lake City, UT
    June 30, 2011 8:47 a.m.

    When Mormon women speak at Priesthood session, like the men speak at the Relief Society meetings, when a Mormon woman can write a book that talks just to Mormon men (as many GA's have done for mormon women), THEN can you consider that the Mormon woman intellectual is equal to the Mormon male intellectual.

    As long as the women can only speak to women, they will not be fully accepted by the church.

    June 30, 2011 6:37 a.m.

    I'm thinking that a culture which encourages the traditional role of men as breadwinners and women as stay-at-home moms is going to make it a bit more difficult for the intellectual accomplishments of its women to be seen outside of the home.