Who are the winners and losers in NBA draft?

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  • He-Man Bountiful, UT
    June 29, 2011 4:52 p.m.

    @joe5. Is telling the truth whining to you? I am tired of big man projects. I did not want either big man. Big men have been nothiing but disaters as draft picks for the Jazz. I have been watching Jazz games since almost right after they first came here. Picking a big man does not need to be high in the draft. Mark eaton was in the 4th round. Waste 2nd round draft picks on big men. You get the best players available in the lottery. I dont understand your logic.

  • TheHailstorm South Weber, UT
    June 29, 2011 1:50 p.m.

    If there is a lockout what happens in the draft lottery ?
    Do we keep # 3 and # 12 picks ?

  • Draft dumbie Farmington, UT
    June 28, 2011 1:07 p.m.

    Next year, the Jazz could have two more lottery picks in what could be one of the strongest drafts in years. The Jazz's pick has been traded to Minnesota, but is top 14 protected for 2012. The Jazz have also obtained the Warriors' pick in 2012, which is top 7 protected.

    If there is a lockout, the Jazz won't get much of a pre-season to install Corbin's new system or allow the new players to mesh successfully. If the season is also shortened, any significant improvement will probably come too late for the Jazz to make the playoffs. Finally, the Western Conference is still very competitive, and in a shortened, lockout season established veteran teams will have more of an advantage than usual. Therefore, it is unlikely the Jazz will make the play-offs next year, even if they show rapid, marked improvement.

    Also, even though the Warriors' odds of getting a top 7 pick next year increased dramatically with Mark Jackson as their new coach, there is still one "chance in he--" the Warriors won't totally tank the season.

    Can you imagine the depth the Jazz could build with two more lottery picks in a very deep draft?

  • Draft dumbie Farmington, UT
    June 28, 2011 12:33 p.m.

    It looks to me like the Jazz were able to select two of the best five players in the last two drafts--including two very good post players. If someone were to do a "do-over" of the 2010 and the 2011 drafts in 5 years, after everything has been sorted out and we know who have become good players and who have become busts, it would not surprise me, if Favors is rated #1 or #2 for the 2010 draft, and Hayward is rated #4 or #5, in a draft that probably will have produced 10-12 very good players. At the same time, it would not surprise me if Kanter turned out to be rated #1 or #2 in the 2011 draft, and Burks turned out to be rated #3 or #4--in a much weaker draft, but which will probably have produced 6-8 very good players.

  • joe5 South Jordan, UT
    June 27, 2011 9:35 p.m.

    @He-man: I'm struggling with your illogic. You praise the choice of Biyombo using the evidence that the Jazz strongly considered him. Then you criticize the choice of Kanter because the Jazz chose him. Don't you see a contradiction in those arguments?

    You sound like a whiner to me.

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    June 27, 2011 7:22 p.m.

    He-Man: Explain yourself if you think the Jazz could have done much better. I disagree with your assesment, I think the Jazz did about as good as they could, they got the best big man in the draft and the best 2 guard in the draft.
    I would have loved to see the Jazz get Jimmer, not because he played for BYU but because of his game, he would have brought to the Jazz things they really need, namely great outside shooting and a player who can create for himself and others. Burks can do the create for himself and others part but Jimmer is a much better shooter. Both have to work on D but both will be OK .
    With Kanter and Burks, the Jazz couldn't have done much better, that is why they were most peoples number one choice for who had the best draft.

  • He-Man Bountiful, UT
    June 27, 2011 6:15 p.m.

    Bobcats losers in this draft? Are you kidding me? Magette might not help them but cant hurt them any more than Stephen Jackson. Besides Kemba Walker is da man now. He will be a very good player for them. Bismack Biyombo is not too much less proven than Enes Kanter. In fact some people thought the Jazz were going to take him instead.
    Jazz could have done much better. You wait. If Enes Kanter is another Dufus Festertag and O'Conner still has his job it will be deja vu all over again.

  • TerryHaimes Sturgis, MS
    June 27, 2011 12:13 p.m.

    Scares me when the experts agree with you. Trading Millsap would be the height of stupidity. The Jazz don't need to bank their future on teenagers. They need to keep the players that have proved they can produce, willing to play in Utah and are willing to work in the off season.

    Portland just traded Fernandez, why would they trade Roy?

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    June 26, 2011 11:44 p.m.

    Like I said, I'm not counting on Evans being able to make that transition to the 3 but if he could WOW. The last 2 yrs drafts would have produced a top notch player at each position. Kanter at the 5, Favors at the 4, Evans at the 3, Hayward at the 2 and Burks. I'm hoping Burks can eventually play the 1. I know both Evans and Burks transitions to the 3 & 1 are long shots but it would be nice.

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    June 26, 2011 11:40 p.m.

    I think with the talent that the DWill trade has brought in, we are in a good position to rebound quickly (relatively speaking), Favors, Hayward, Kanter, Burks, that's a pretty good young nucleas to start rebuilding with and then add next yrs lottery pick or picks and we should be up and running. I an not counting on him making a difference but Evans could be a player that will end up helping us alot, if he can make the move to the 3 spot, he would be a major positive, he is long, athletic, quick, if he can shoot and put the ball on the floor alittle and then guard the 3's that would be great. He has the size that would be perfect for a 3, he could guard the Durrants, Melo's, James's of the league. I just hope he's working hard and can make the transition to the 3.

  • Bugoff Houston, TX
    June 26, 2011 10:08 p.m.

    The same criticism leveled at MN can be applied to Utah. They were already stacked at PF/C and Burks is not known for outside shooting or defense.

    In other words the list of winners and losers is pretty subjective.

    Based on several quantitative models the Jazz did well. Kanter and Jonas were the best bigs in the draft. Williams is a good player but will attempt to play SF where he has little experience.

    Burks based on some models may be a better player than Kanter.

    The Jazz may have gotten 2 of the top 5 players in the draft.

    The got the best or 2nd best big and the best SG in the draft.

    Keep getting more talent and the Jazz will start winning.

    There has been a tremendous talent drain in the last year or so and Jazz management has not brought back replacement talent.

    Millsap replaced Boozer, AJ replaced Okur, Nobody replaced Millsap as back up, Bell replaced both Brewer and Korver, Harris replaced DWill.

    You can't drop the team WP48 from 140 down to 70 and expect to win.

  • LKA Tremonton, UT
    June 26, 2011 2:22 p.m.

    @shabo: You need to do your homework. Millsap not milsap. Look at Brandon Roy contract.And his knees are shot.But you were correct about "fools."

  • SoCalUtahFan Utesville, CA
    June 26, 2011 1:07 p.m.

    Interesting...Kings is listed as loser in this draft

  • B Russ Ephraim, UT
    June 26, 2011 12:25 p.m.

    If there is a lockout Jonas will have to wait a year to play anyway. Toronto did good snagging him when they did.

    I keep hearing alot of talk about how Burks can't shoot. Go to Draft Express they have alot of info on Burks and watch the workout video from Impact Sports. He has been working on his NBA 3 point shooting with Chauncy Billups instucting him on his mechanics. During the Video he drains one NBA 3 after another from different spots around the arch. He looks like he can shoot to me. The kid is a baller and can really play. I'm glad we got him instead of Leonard now.

  • scalman Temecula, CA
    June 26, 2011 10:39 a.m.

    I disagree with the article saying Toronto didn't have a good draft. Waiting one year for a prospect like Jonas V. is nothing, especially for a team who isn't close to contending for the championship. He may turn out to be a better player than Kanter. Hope not, but who knows?

    @ shaybo

    Not sure about moving Milsap. In a year's time, I wouldn't be surprised if Kanter is the starting C and Favors is the starting PF. If Jefferson balks at backing up Kanter, I think he should be the one who is traded. Milsap will grumble some, but he will be very valuable as the backup to Favors. Some teams just can't stop him, and Milsap always adds a little something to his game each year.

  • joe5 South Jordan, UT
    June 26, 2011 10:36 a.m.

    My belief, and it is just an opinion so I could be wrong, is that Roy's career is virtually over. Even when he was drafted, experts said that the problems with his knees would probably result in a five-year career. His on-going injury problems seem to validate those early predictions. At best, I think Roy will be a role player instead of the franchise player he looked destined to become.

    But, as I said, I might be wrong. Is the risk worth it?

  • shaybo Richfield, UT
    June 26, 2011 9:17 a.m.

    The Jazz could turn this into a great draft since drafting Kanter makes 2 players with very good marketability expendable, Jefferson and Milsap namely.
    The Jazz should be able to pick up an outstanding outside shooter in a trade. At the risk of helping Portland, they love Milsap and Branden Roy would make a huge difference for the Jazz.

    Most fans would hate to see Milsap go including me but he is that extra piece that won't quite fit in next year. Having said that, Milly has always came back from the off season much improved on the things that make him better and is probably at home right now shooting 1000 3's a day and working on his quickness to guard the 3 spot and would make us look like fools for trading him.