i hope they groom burks as a PG...much like Penny Hardaway during his prime...i
can see it in him...i think he would be much more of a distributor than
Penny...but can score when and where he wants...probably the timing of getting
points...the shot selection...if the team is focused on the team first
concept...no one would really care who scores and who doesnt as long as its a
The thing that is frustrating to me is that so many of you are all judging these
guys saying everything they are NOT...how do you know...when was the last time
you were at any of the workouts they were? Everyone seems to forget how well the
Jazz coaching staff can develop our players...look at what has happened with
Wesley...Paul...Ronnie B....We find these diamonds in the rough... help them
become better and then everyone else..(PORTLAND) make ridiculous money offers to
them. Give these 19 year old kids a chance, all of them (Derrick & Jeremey
included) and Jazz brass a little credit...they might just be smarter than a
typical Jazz fan or a 5th grader!!
I'm sick of hearing that Burks is a Brewer clone who can't shoot. There is a
BIG difference between not being able to consistantly hit a 3 and not being able
to shoot period. Watch film on the kid! Is he a great 3-point shooter - no.
That's where his similarity with Brewer ends. His mid-range jumper is good to
great. Brewer didn't need to be guarded outside of 5 feet. There's a big
difference. Plus Brewer was not the greatest ball handler. Burks can go
wherever he wants with the ball. I would think with all of the times I've seen
slashers carve up the Jazz in the past few years, fans would be excited to see a
Jazzman who could do the same.
@Anonigmayup...i think its pretty fair...unless...we could still
snag a few second round picks...my only issue is...the salary...
@KakashiMy bad...doesn't sound like a bad deal then...considering
Iggy wants out of Philly
@Anonigma...Jrue Holiday is a PG...a young up and coming PG from the
@KakashiYou can't trade Devin Harris w/o getting a PG back. He's the
Jazz's only PG on contract.
Watch the Nike Hoop Summit, he absolutely dominated against the USA stars who by
the way include most of the top picks in this and next years draft. You also
need to realize that he practiced all year with the Kentucky team and will be a
much better player than he was at the Hoop Summit.If you look at the
the 2011 NBA combine test results you will find his max jumping reach is only
5" less than Dwight Howard's 12'3" at 11'10" (Favors by the way
Calgary: What is it that you dislike so much in Kanter? Have you listened to the
coaches / KOC / scouts that did their homework on him? They love how he runs the
floor, established post position, KOC says he reminds them of Karl in that
regard. He's tough, physical, skilled, has an inside and an outside game,
rebounds well, give him a little time and he will be very good.
I wonder...if the Jazz could trade Al Jefferson + Devin Harris to the
76ers...for Iggy, Holiday and a 1st round pick?....
@Calgary, unfortunately the poll questions, give you only 2 options, had they
included a more reasonable choice somewhere in between it would have won hands
down. Actually the Jazz have never really had a good all around center so that
one could be highly possible.
@ Doug10,Didn't you read all of Winglish's post?Horny
fixed Hayward's lift issue and now Hayward (end of season proof) shoots just
fine.He'll do the same for Burks, if Burks has it in him to
learn.Didn't your breakfast taste very good? Ate something sour?
I saw Kanter shoot a trey (and make it) on some film of him, and what I thought
I saw was good form. It seemed natural and effortless. If he CAN learn to shoot
long effectively AND be a force inside, WOW!Let's hope!
I just saw footage of the Nike Hoops Summit...I mean, once you see this footage,
you realize he can shoot, has moves, likes to rebound and works hard. I think
he would have been number 1 in the Draft, if he had played all year for
Kentucky. His game is pretty amazing, but you are right its up to him to prove
he is better than Mark Eaton.
Up to now, Eaton was the best center in the history of the Utah Jazz. He
clogged the painted and made everyone alter their shots. But it won't be
difficult for Kanter to take over the "best center ever" spot if he
shows up and works. He has the size and the talent. The question is will he be
like Boozer and look for any excuse to stay off the floor or will he come to
work like the mailman did? I'm keeping a positive outlook on him
and leaving it up to him to prove his own value to the team.
Sokol: I hope your right , Kanter possibly being the best center the Jazz have
ever had, I think he definitely has the potential to be the best. He already has
a good shot, he's physical, runs the floor well, he's in shape, he can play both
inside and outside. Time will tell but I like the possibilities.He keeps
the ball high after rebounds and some of his body language reminds me of Duncan.
He's fundamentally sound, good rebounder, tough, smart, wants to win, I hope the
Jazz make some moves to allow Kanter and Favors time on the floor.
Kanter is really, really good....I think he could be better than Nowitski and
possibly the best center the Jazz have ever had.
Doug-can't win em all partner. Relax regarding Jeff and his coaching.1. Fes. Really? Can you say a mental case? Immature and no heart--can't teach
that partner. You have to put in the time and everything I have ever read about
Fes says he does not work hard.think about it2. Price. Has he ever
shot well from beyond? Nope. It's a learned behavior and he is lucky to even be
in the NBA, period...I like Ronnie and his heart but his skills are not
there.3. CJ? Wow, can't believe you are blaming this one on Jeff. He
has what it takes to be a great shot and has proven that at times but is it
really Jeff's fault that CJ can't be consistent? Think about it as your argument
w/ this one makes no sense.4. Raja. Age has caught up with him. No
lower extremity strength as all his shots were short. Raja blamed himself
severely for his poor shooting woes. Again, not Jeff's fault and nor did he
make his shot worse. This is just crazy.Psychology/Psychiatry(meds)-Jeff is neither and several Jazz men need both.
Calgary: Your just upset they didn't take the player you wanted them to, Jonas,
Kanter was always my #1 pick and I think he will do great, it may take a little
time for him to learn the system and adjust to the nba game but he has the
skills, the body, and the right attitude. It would be amazing to me if Kanter
doesn't succeed. I love his skill set, he has already developed skills that
should translate well into the NBA.How the Jazz handle Big Al will be
interesting, Big Al has to see the writing on the wall with Favors and Kanter
being brought into the fold. Hope he can handle it well. It may take a couple of
yrs for Kanter and Favors to beat Big Al out of the starting lineup but it's
inevitable. IMO. I think Big Al should be the player the Jazz look to move, he
should bring back good players in return and help the Jazz get the players they
need, mainly at the 3 position.Next yrs draft could be helpful.
Does a tree that falls in a forest make a sound with no one around. Will Kanter
be the big tree in the lane that Harris will not pass to? Favors and Kanter
need to get the ball. This means that Harris to Big Al has to go. The Jazz
need to clean out the underbrush even if it takes a Forest fire(sale).
Let''s give these new kids a chance before shutting them down. And for those
that do can look for something to drink with their "Crow."
Winglish what does Hornacek say about Fes free throw shooting or about CJ hit
and miss and Ronnie Price can't throw it in the ocean or about how he has
mismanaged Raja Bell shooting? Hornacek can shoot but he has proven for years
now he cannot coach or teach shooting.Calgary you may need to spend
time in Ponoka as Kanter is good or else after scouting him the Jazz would have
taken another big. They were there and you were not.Rock, another
name you need to add to wannabe centers for the Jazz is Fesenko. The team now
has plenty of traffic in the paint and Fes couldn't make it off the bench when
he just had to backup one person. that experiment should be over.
There is no question we got the cream of the draft. What was termed a weak draft
we ended up with two of the elites. They are young, but have considerable
potential and athleticism. I think now we have the nucleus for one of the best
frontcourts in the NBA. This is one of the most optimistic drafts the Jazz have
Jeff Hornacek was talking about Burks' shooting form last night on the radio.
The interview is posted on 1320kfan. Basically, Jeff said that Burks needs more
lift on his shot. The way Burks shoots the ball when he's far from the basket
requires more body effort than a really efficient shooter uses. Hornacek
mentioned that Gordon Hayward had a similar form disruption when he came in and
now Hayward is lights out from deep. Let's hope Burks puts in the time to make
the same changes. The difference between fixing Alec Burks' shot
vs. fixing Ronnie Brewer's shot is that Ronnie has that chicken wing elbow from
the broken arm he suffered as a kid. There was not a way to get that arm
straightened out. Burks doesn't have anything physically wrong with his arms so
it's just a matter of working on his release. The kid did shoot
over 50% from the field and he's an excellent free throw shooter. I'm willing to
give Alec Burks my support as a fan as long as he shows up to work every day,
plays his heart out, and practices the same way.
I think Kanter is going to be very good. He can shoot from the outside if left
open, he has a strong developing inside game, he is agile enough he should
defend well, he is big enough he can plug the paint. How good he
will be remains to be seen but he should be at least serviceable to great. I have been thinking about Burks. His shot is already improving. He has
a number of similarities to Tyreke Evans. If KOC had traded for Tyreke many
Jazz fans would be jubilant just because of name recognition. Hopefully he is a
more efficient shooter than Tyreke but he is somewhat similar in many ways. If Burks develops efficient outside shooting and decent defense,
something he should be fully capable of doing he is going to be better than
Evans. Many pundits are giving the Jazz an A on this draft. They
were ranked number 1 by one national service. Go Jazz
I think the tundra is getting to you Calgary. It's a great time for
optimism!I can't wait to see these guys play. I hope the lockout
doesn't last long.Go Jazz!
I like the pick of Kanter, but still have my doubts on him. There was no obvious
pick at #3 and the Jazz went for a talented big man. As for Burks,
he looks like Ronnie Brewer to me. Burks handles the rock and creates better
than Brewer, but Brewer is probably the better defender. Basically, despite
being a slasher that can finish, Burks, like Brewer, is a shooting guard who
can't shoot. Burks is a scorer, but shot 29% on three balls in college. That's
with a shorter 3 point line and lower quality defense.
Calgary, you are such genius! I think you have basketball IQ over 100! What
are the next 6-49 numbers?
wow... 80% fans think Kanter will be All star and best center Jazz ever
had...Let me say this - he will be neither and in 3-4 years he will be wearing
different jersey. And all you 80% clueless fans will be screaming for O'Connors
head for this drafts failure.
19 years old, raw, talented, fast for big guy, midrange jumper, likes to bang,
tough, likes rasling like good old #32, excited to be here, has a Turkish
countryman here, wears a cool undertaker hat, whats not to like.Welcome young one!Go JazzOh yea and the other new 19
year old kid, can't wait to see him play either.
This kid is a specimen. If his work ethics is anywhere near Malone's, he'll
shine in the NBA.
Maybe Kanter can sponsor an annual fundraising ping pong tournament, similar to
the dodgeball tournament Deron Williams and Kyle Korver started. Wouldn't it be
great to see Fesenko play Kanter in an exhibition match?
I like the front line of the Jazz!