'Mormon' musical: Pride in prejudice?

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  • Clemdane SCOTTSDALE, AZ
    July 5, 2011 3:00 p.m.

    This is really just an extension of the entire South Park franchise, even if it is not billed as such. And you can look to see just about any group you can think of, religious or otherwise, made fun of in South Park. What would happen if they gently poked fun at Islam? That's already happened...on South Park.

  • Jeff Temple City, CA
    June 23, 2011 4:38 p.m.

    @ krissy: You ask, "Why is is that we think it's okay if we make a joke about ourselves, but someone else does it and we cry persecution?"

    Because we have been persecuted. We own our history and our legacy as other persecuted minority groups own theirs: we can make fun of ourselves, but others must do so with our permission. African Americans, for example, are perfectly free to use the "n" word. It belongs to them. No one else may use that word without a kind of permission.

    Having said that, I must admit that I believe that we are rightfully subject to verbal attacks both satirical and non-. We belong to a very public Church, very much thrust into the public sphere. We make public statements that are subject to approval or non-approval by the society at large. That, however, does not mean that we must give up our rights to voice our counter-criticism of society. Or, in this case, to make statements about the artistic or moral integrity of a work of art. If a satire is successfully executed (ie, it is funny, and it causes change), it may still be bad on other levels.

  • krissy Sterling, VA
    June 23, 2011 6:57 a.m.

    Go on You-Tube and listen to these songs. I agree, some of it is profane and crass, but much of it is dead on funny. Why is is that we think it's okay if we make a joke about ourselves, but someone else does it and we cry persecution?

  • Jeff Temple City, CA
    June 20, 2011 11:29 p.m.

    @ bgl: I listened to the opening number of the musical ("Two by Two," isn't it?), and, like you, I found the music engaging and the lyrics clever. However, the song is arranged so that the counterpoint late in the number makes the Savior's name become an intentional profanity. The song was suggested to me as one of the cleaner songs in the show. I am religiously disturbed by the profane use of that name, and I had been given warning (from many non-Mormon sources) that the majority of the show's numbers were very crass (the word the LA Times used), so I have avoided the songs you mentioned. I am certain that I would be offended by them if they are anything in their intent and design like the opening number.

    That is my attempt to explain why I would not find the show uplifting. I have heard many stories of people who felt uplifted by the show, and anecdotal stories abound of people who are interested in the Church because of it. I'm OK with that. I'm just not uplifted by raunch and profanity. I haven't been since middle school.

  • John Pack Lambert of Michigan Ypsilanti, MI
    June 20, 2011 9:03 p.m.

    The ease with which I have seen people say "I hate Mormons" just shows how true it is. If you ask them "what would happen if you replaced the word "Mormons" with "Jews", they just come back and tell you to stop pretending Mormons are an ethnic group.

    On the other hand we need to avoid being to narrow in our outlook. Hating Catholics and Evangelical Protestants is in some circles more acceptable than hating Mormons. Sadly some Mormons join in bashing on these groups. Dislike of Muslims is also widespread. It is often fueled by the same sort of charges, but is not likely to be publicly voiced by the "tolerant types" outside of anonymous forums. There is also sadly a resurgence of anti-semitic feeling in the United States, as seen by the publications of those who seek to outlaw circumcision.

  • Elcapitan Ivins, UT
    June 20, 2011 4:35 p.m.

    The Roman Forum is alive and well in New York City. Have fun folks while you can, your city is siniking into the sea slowly but surely. We love the high ground and the small towns.

  • just-a-fan Bountiful, UT
    June 20, 2011 2:14 p.m.

    Don't care.

  • md Smithfield, UT
    June 20, 2011 12:28 p.m.

    If you don't like it, don't watch it. I know I won't have anything to do with it.

  • The Caravan Moves On Enid, OK
    June 20, 2011 10:03 a.m.

    Regarding this 'witty' and 'entertaining' musical, I like what Brigham Young said about the LDS church's antagonists: "Every time they try to kick Mormonism down to hell they only lift it up to Heaven."

    And so it will be with this play.

    Sure, some may fall away due to increased scrutiny and shame for the Gospel of Christ, but more will join us on our journey home as they find out the truth about the Lord's restored church in the latter days.

    Thanks, guys!

  • A Guy With A Brain Enid, OK
    June 20, 2011 9:53 a.m.

    Article quote: "Pease finds it ironic that "the people who create this kind of satirical expression, who defend, trumpet or advocate diversity, inclusion and acceptance largely the entertainment and intellectual industries often show none of these qualities in their own productions."

    Yes, and anyone with an ounce of honesty knows this is true.

    Enjoy the large and spacious building while you can, liberals.....

  • MeSoDevout LOS ANGELES, CA
    June 20, 2011 1:42 a.m.

    To my LDS friends,

    1 Your people have faced horrible persecutions. Your founding prophet was murdered.

    2 "Christian" evangelicals think you are evil cultists. They don't want their children to play with yours.

    3 Left-wingers on Broadway are singing songs about you in a play that won a Tony.

    One of these is not like the others.

  • Free Agency Salt Lake City, UT
    June 19, 2011 9:43 p.m.

    Rikitikitavi, Looks like I should have been more specific about my differences with Mormonism regarding women. Here goes.

    If a Mormon woman is happiest living on a pedestal, fine. I've heard of many Mormon women who feel totally fulfilled that way.

    But if a Mormon woman would be happier climbing off pedestals and fulfilling her life the way her individual (not "woman's") spirit tells her to, I think she should be respected for that--not told by her church (or anyone else) the things that "women" were put here to do and the things they weren't put here to do. I've also heard of many Mormon women who feel *that* way.

    I'm perplexed by your seeming tone of "butt out, you're not in the Church" when all I did was state what my own particular differences with Mormonism were. I'm certainly not interested in telling the Church to change its ways. That can only come--if it comes at all--from within the Church.

  • Rikitikitavi Cardston, Alberta
    June 19, 2011 8:06 p.m.

    @ free agency Sorry but you are way off the mark on women's roles in the LDS Church. Absolutely no where are women placed on the much-deserved pedestal as in the LDS Church. My Mother, my wife, and my daughters are among the most able, lovely, and amazing women on the planet...along with hundreds of thousands of other women in the LDS Church. You are entitled to harbor your own view on women's roles but leave actual value of role(s) of LDS women up to themselves. Only they know what is best for them and they do not need your help in telling them what is REALLY important and fulfilling in their lives.

  • Wally West SLC, UT
    June 19, 2011 6:57 p.m.

    @ Reasonable Person | 2:49 p.m. June 18, 2011

    Blessed are the Cheesemakers?

    re: Free Agency | 4:07 p.m. June 18, 2011

    {I can't recall one article or review on "Book of Mormon" which said, "An astonishing turnaround from the creators of 'South Park.'" }

    Exactly. Its Parker & Stone on Broadway if that isn't a clash of cultures in & of itself I don't know what is?

    Other than South Park, P & S aren't exactly the evil geniuses that Seth MacFarlane is.

    It could be worse; One of Fox's Sunday night shows could be made into a movie?


  • bgl Santa Monica, CA
    June 19, 2011 5:35 p.m.

    How anyone can call this uninspiring and only looking to tear down and not lift up, is beyond me. Before you say that I have to ask you to crank up the ipod while listen to Two, by Two--JS All American Prophet-and I Believe. You will be shaking your groove thing and having some finger popping good times in your basement! Don't tell me that's not uplifting!

  • EyeDeeTenTee Miamisburg, OH
    June 19, 2011 5:30 p.m.

    Are Matt Parker and Trey Stone brilliant? Has anything they have produced not already been tried out in the pristine and sophisticated world of the middle school locker room? They are formulaic, predictable and I find them quite boring. Humor that relies on offensive language and material to attract audiences is lazy humor. I don't deny they have a lot of fans on Broadway. But so does David Hasselhoff in Germany and Jerry Lewis in France.
    After reading many blogs and comments, I have found more folks radically offended by criticism of the play than from the content of the play. Seems to me that some of the Broadway crowd are a wee bit sensitive about their "religion".

  • bgl Santa Monica, CA
    June 19, 2011 5:00 p.m.

    I would respectfully argue that the so called "persecution," is really the Mormon Church's inability to control the message. Spin, image and controlling what the audience sees are what Mormons have done so well down through the ages. It's just that "The Book of Mormon" is doing it a little better right now. Broadway has been playing the smoke and mirrors game for as long as the church, haven't they?

    June 19, 2011 4:26 p.m.

    The law may not be an exact fit but we should always keep it in mind:
    The California Unruh Act:
    "All persons within the jurisdiction of this state are free and equal, and no matter what their sex, race, color, religion, ancestry, national origin, disability, medical condition, marital status, or sexual orientation are entitled to the full and equal accommodations, advantages, facilities, privileges, or services in all business establishments of every kind whatsoever."
    Just avoid offending any of the 10 things listed above. In the work place you can get fired for it. They could have done something like "Fidler on the Roof". Instead of "Tradition..tradition" "The mission...the mission". That would have been funny and acceptable.

  • Demosthenes Rexburg, ID
    June 19, 2011 4:15 p.m.

    I'm a reasonable person and a Mormon, and I take my beliefs quite seriously.

    Their basic prejudice, that no reasonable person could take Mormon beliefs seriously, is incredibly insensitive and patently offensive. It assumes that all religion is simply make-believe, that none of it could be actually real. Such a broad-brush dismissal of religion is arrogant at the least, and malicious at the worst.

    Tolerance is inherently supposed to be a two-way street. Evidently the writers and producers of "The Book of Mormon" and their fans aren't aware of that.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    June 19, 2011 2:15 p.m.

    Some of y'all are going to get a cramp gazing so intently at your navel.

  • Mayfair City, Ut
    June 19, 2011 12:44 p.m.

    Jonathan Eddy--"We're going on hearsay.....

    "Just like what the writers of musicals, theater attendees and a good portion of the world at large will do when it comes to Mormon beliefs and values."


  • TheProudDuck Newport Beach, CA
    June 19, 2011 12:33 p.m.

    "Imagine a script designed to 'gently mock' Islam or its sacred book the Quran...The Middle East would be in flames, al-Qaida would grow and President Barack Obama would travel abroad on bended knee delivering speeches of apology."

    Thanks to the show's producers for giving us an occasion to show how some religious traditions are just *better* than others.

    A religion that inspires people to kill people who disrespect it, is on the same moral level as ghetto thugs who shoot you for looking at them the wrong way. It follows that a religion that doesn't do this, is morally better. No, not all faiths are created equal.

    Islam overall can be a decent, humane faith. It's just a matter of ignoring the right parts.

  • nicholdraper West Jordan, UT
    June 19, 2011 9:50 a.m.

    While on my mission in Mexico a group came around preaching against us to all our neighbors and told our landlord that she should kick us out because we were mormons. It made our landlord so mad, both she and many of our neighbors all not members came to our defense. That next month we baptized the most people in the mission. In a way I feel flattered that recently so many media people have felt our cause is mainstream enough to mock. And we do realize that this mockery is mild compared to what other groups have suffered and are suffering. It's great to be loved or hated, much better than being ignored. Thanks

  • Idaho Coug Meridian, Idaho
    June 19, 2011 8:40 a.m.

    I am reminded how comfortable a believer can become with his or her own religious/spiritual beliefs while at the same time finding other beliefs to be downright silly and absurd.

    I watched something the other day in which someone matter of factly ran down the list of things that Scientologists believe. And I have to admit they sounded extremely wacky. I've seen that (accurately) done with Mormonism and it can have the same effect. If we are honest with ourselves, Mormonism is near the top of the list in terms of containing a long list of things that people say "you believe what?"

    If you step back and objectively look at ANY religious belief it strains common sense and logic. That is why religion is based on faith.

    Given that, as LDS we should lead the way in not criticizing or even gently mocking others. It happens in church meetings and other LDS conversations. Go back and re-read 1 Nephi chapter 13 and early comments by JS and BY about Christianity in general. Our religion was built on the very concept that all other religions had become an "abomination".

    We should lead in religious tolerance.

  • windsor City, Ut
    June 19, 2011 6:10 a.m.

    Loved the headline--

    That about sums it up.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    June 19, 2011 5:52 a.m.

    The constant hand-wringing about this play tells me that Mormonism isn't an adult religion yet.

  • Admiring Gentile Salt Lake City, UT
    June 19, 2011 12:09 a.m.

    I (and others) have said this before in these postings on "Book of Mormon" but I think it bears repeating here.

    I'm hard put to think of any other religion, outside of Quakers, Unitarians, Buddhists and some branches of Judaism, which would be as tolerant, soft-spoken and gracious as the Mormons when a show comes along which ridicules their foundational beliefs and presents its adherents as naive to the point of vacuousness.

    The Church's Deseret News has presented extensive, even-handed coverage of the show and its popularity, and invited readers to respond with their own thoughts, whether favorable to the Church or not.

    Yet whenever Mormons calmly respond that the show doesn't present a three-dimensional picture of Mormonism, and that the show's jackhammer profanity is unappealing to someone with Mormon values, they're invariably met with, "Can't take the criticism, huh?"

    My hat's off to the way the Church and its members are handling this. Nothing more clearly shows the confidence they have in their faith. As their forebears did, they too are declaring, "Our destiny is in our own hands--no one else's." Bravo!

  • Ernesto de Bajo Albuquerque, NM
    June 19, 2011 12:02 a.m.

    "And great was the multitude that did enter into that strange building. And after they did enter into that building they did point the finger of scorn at me and those that were partaking of the fruit also; but we heeded them not." -- 1 Nephi 8:33

  • Outsideview Federal Way, WA
    June 18, 2011 10:51 p.m.

    I thought Mormonisum was the "thinking mans" religion. I suppose that it still is. The only problem with these critics proclaiming the "thinking mans discrimination" is that they dont believe in God. It is pretty hard to talk to someone about faith when they do not chose to have faith or even want it. God always said that the things of God are foolishness to those who do not believe. As discussed in the actual Book of Mormon, this is just part of that great crowd of people accross the gulf who mock and call to the people who are following the rod of iron up to the tree of life. In the end, their opinions wont really matter.

  • BobP Port Alice, B.C.
    June 18, 2011 10:42 p.m.

    The LDS churche's big new billboard in New York, proves the old axiom, Any publicity is good publicity, as long as they spell your name right.

    A friend of mine who was serving a mission in Salt Lake when the southern Bapists were having their convention there, simply followed them around and asked in the people wanted to hear "the real truth".

  • Kim Cedar Park, Texas
    June 18, 2011 9:49 p.m.

    I think as an LDS member, it is hard to not to be susceptible to the argument several people have brought up regarding commenting on something you have not seen. However, what choice do we have? It has been advertized as one of the most profane and obscene musicals ever written. How can members in good conscience see this kind of production? I am amazed that apparently many have. Why would members see any musical with this kind of promotion, let alone one about their church.

  • Dektol Powell, OH
    June 18, 2011 9:48 p.m.

    Did your paper write long articles complaining about prejudice and making fun of people when the movie FARGO came out?

  • B Logan, UT
    June 18, 2011 9:43 p.m.

    I haven't seen the play. My question to those who have and are defending it is whether it is light hearted or light minded. According to the New York Times review, it is one of the most vulgar plays ever to come to Broadway.

    I'm sure those who are defending this as creative, funny, and yes, even sweet probably aren't members of the church or not terribly active in their practice of the church doctrines.

    Don't be surprised to find many members of the church turned off by these kinds of things. It's not that we feel we are being picked on. We've been through much worse than this. It's more a feeling that this is meant to give offense to God.

  • San Diego Chargers Fan San Diego, CA
    June 18, 2011 9:39 p.m.

    I downloaded the soundtrack from iTunes, thinking it would be fun to listen to with my children, who are interested in Broadway musicals. Unfortunately, I quickly deleted most of the songs because of the profanity-laden lyrics and offensive disrespect of God, Jesus and Joseph Smith, including very vulgar sexual references about each of them. Not funny, and definitely not for children.

  • christoph Brigham City, UT
    June 18, 2011 8:45 p.m.

    Our road shows are proof we are good at laughing at ourselves. As it relates to this broadway production and it's bad language, the world is dumb to repeat their favorite swear words over and over again. A million words in the English language and all they can say is the same lousy boring curse words. Ironic that the people who need the most entertainment in life don't ever get out of the same old, stale, boring filth.

  • Ridgely Magna, UT
    June 18, 2011 6:46 p.m.

    Ever heard of a New York Minute?

    It's only been a week since the Tony Awards (about the biggest broadcast exposure the Musical will probably ever receive) and already the media chatter about the show is dying down (outside of the Deseret News it seems). Two weeks from now it will have largely disappeared from the media radar, and the vast majority of the general public just don't care.

    So relax, take a deep breath, and just wait for a few weeks before you circle the wagons and start claiming persecution.

  • LKA Tremonton, UT
    June 18, 2011 6:39 p.m.

    This may more separate the good from the bad. Those who only think of money and having more of it will stand in line with the scamers and crooks to take the good from anybody and walk all over whoever and not care a lick. Those who are honest and true of heart might look more for the strait and narrow path.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    June 18, 2011 6:38 p.m.

    [This *does* have real nourishment in it!"

    Somehow, though, I don't think that's likely. I can't recall one article or review on "Book of Mormon" which said, "An astonishing turnaround from the creators of 'South Park.'" ]

    There are actually plenty of South Park episodes that end in some sort of monologue where something profound is stated and there's an actual lesson there. In fact the Mormon one might be a good example of that because at the end the Mormon kid tells Stan that even if it was all made up he's got a good life and a great family, and he has the book of mormon to thank for it.

    Of course throughout the episode there's the whole "dum dum dum dum dumb" tune going while the Joseph Smith story is told so... there's the matter of whether or not the delivery of the rest of the story spoils what would otherwise be considered a good lesson at the end. I haven't seen the musical but based on reviews I've read it seems to be similar. Lots of making fun of things but ending with something profound. In that case it'd be no turnaround but the norm

  • DeskTree LEHI, UT
    June 18, 2011 6:36 p.m.

    Trey Parker and Matt Stone (the creators of The Book of Mormon and South Park) are absolutely brilliant. Say what you want about their material (obscene, distasteful, etc.) but these guys are positively magnificent at what they do.

    They have created a Broadway musical that has people talking about the Tony's. The Tony's, people!!! When was the last you even heard these silly awards even mentioned, let alone heard what production had won? For cryin' out loud, it's been more than a week since the awards and we're still talking and reading about it. Unbelievable.

    These guys are amazing. The have a serious knack for touching nerves and attracting eyeballs (and all the money that comes with it). I sure wish I had the same gift!

  • Cedarite Cedar City, UT
    June 18, 2011 6:33 p.m.

    They should present an "Official Utah Version" of the musical which replaces the profanity with "oh my heck" and the other things many Utahns use instead.

  • morpunkt Glendora, CA
    June 18, 2011 5:46 p.m.

    But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty; 1 Corinthians 1:27

  • Jeff Temple City, CA
    June 18, 2011 5:08 p.m.

    The point is, we have a right to take the critical view of a work of art. We may rightly ask such questions as, "Is the satire useful?" "Is the play worth seeing?" "What are the artists intentions?" "Is this worth the money?" "Is it too raunchy?" "Is raunch worthy art?" "What does it say about Ugandans as well as Mormons?" "What does it say about all minorities--religious and ethnic?" "Is the message worthwhile?" "Does the amount of money it makes negate its satirical claims?"

    A person, not a critic, who plans to see or not see the show might seriously ask some of those questions as well.

    I think it's perfectly reasonable for people to discourage others from seeing such a show on artistic, philosophical, religious, and personal grounds.

    Would I be inclined to see the show? Yes, maybe, if it weren't so R-rated. I have seen "Paint Your Wagon" several times, and I think it's worse than this show seems to be. I like Arthur Conan Doyle, but his take on Mormons might as well be science fiction. Neither one of those, however, could be called "crass," as this musical has been. I wouldn't see it.

  • Cali Girl Temecula, CA
    June 18, 2011 5:07 p.m.

    "Aren't I entitled to judge someone because he believes something I personally find asinine?"

    So - believing in Jesus Christ as our cornerstone is asinine?


  • katiefrankie Provo, UT
    June 18, 2011 5:00 p.m.

    Heck, I wouldn't even pay $400.00 to see "Les Miserables," and that is some incredibly uplifting, challenging, and beautiful material. Oh, well. Either way, the books both of these musicals are based on are so much better than the plays...

  • KJB1 Eugene, OR
    June 18, 2011 4:29 p.m.

    I've listened to the soundtrack and while it's certainly irreverent (to say the least), I have to admit that it captures parts of the Mormon mentality *very* well. It's looking like that this play is becoming just like gay marriage: yet another excuse for the DN to complain and play the poor-persecuted-us card.

  • Free Agency Salt Lake City, UT
    June 18, 2011 4:07 p.m.

    Linda, you make a very fair comment regarding we critics of the show. I admit I haven't seen it--I can't afford the trip to NYC, much less the tickets.

    But I *have* read every article and review (nearly all of them extremely favorable)on "Book of Mormon" I could find. And I found dozens and dozens of them! I got my impression of the show from all these very descriptive pieces.

    I admit my second-hand impression may be wrong. Should I one day get to see the show (and I'd be open to that, if economically possible), I might find myself surprised to feel, "Wow, I was wrong. This *does* have real nourishment in it!"

    Somehow, though, I don't think that's likely. I can't recall one article or review on "Book of Mormon" which said, "An astonishing turnaround from the creators of 'South Park.'"

  • seer kaysville, ut
    June 18, 2011 4:03 p.m.

    I imagine the tall and spacious building in father Lehi's dream. At over $400 dollars a seat, some will ridicule the simple for not having the funds to properly appreciate the edifice from the inside, much less make an assumption about the motives of the occupants.

    This building is rootless because it makes nothing of its own. All of the so called orignial ideas are mere perversions of truth. The finely dressed elite find great pleasure in mocking the "simple" people who are not enlightened. Awards are given, columns are written, and judgements are made. In the end, the building seems to float in the air, with the renters seemingly high above the fray laughing....always laughing.

  • Jonathan Eddy Payson, UT
    June 18, 2011 3:59 p.m.

    @ Linda A

    We're going on hearsay.....

    Just like what the writers of musicals, theater attendees and a good portion of the world at large will do when it comes to Mormon beliefs and values.

    Incidentally, can you imagine how entertaining "The Book of Mormon" musical would be if it was based on the subject dealing with all of the Christian humanitarian aid the LDS church is extending to the millions of victims throughout the world suffering the effects of tornadoes, earthquakes, tsunamis, floods, hurricanes, drought, poverty and hunger? That would be lighthearted tale huh?

  • Linda A Orem, UT
    June 18, 2011 3:41 p.m.

    So, for those who are criticizing this play, have you actually SEEN it? Or are you just making assumptions? Or just going on hearsay?

    June 18, 2011 3:19 p.m.

    If you are upset about this play, I have the answer for you:

    Turn it off...like a light switch...just go click...treat those pesky feelings like a reading light...turn it off...like a light switch...

    Everybody now.

  • Free Agency Salt Lake City, UT
    June 18, 2011 3:10 p.m.

    I have my own differences with Mormonism, such as its stance on homosexuality and women's roles, as well as the knee-jerk thinking of many of its members ("when the Prophet speaks, the discussion's over").

    But this Broadway show is one more example of the cancer that's eating away at America's spirit. Like so much else in our current culture, it jabs repeatedly at something that has *some* nutrients in it, yet can't offer us a single nutrient of its own. Everything is to be mocked, nothing is to be believed in, life is simply an absurd mess and the best way to view it is with laughs--laughs generated, more often than not, by let's-see-if-we-can-top-our-last-one profanity.

    Humans need nutrients or we die spiritually. I'd sooner sit in on a Mormon event any day, than in the Broadway theater showing "The Book of Mormon" (or many other shows on Broadway these days). I know I'll get *something* from the former that will make me feel good in my spirit. But all I'll get in the latter is despair in the form of "entertainment."

  • Jonathan Eddy Payson, UT
    June 18, 2011 3:05 p.m.

    Nobody with a sense of decency would attend a musical that makes light of the events of 9-11 or the Holocaust or the AIDS epidemic. Yet, people are paying $400 bucks to laugh at (not with) Mormons and Africans. In a society that claims to be politically correct, I have to wonder sometimes if prejudice will ever diminish or if it will stay about the same but merely change colors.

  • So-CalAggie Anaheim, CA
    June 18, 2011 2:54 p.m.

    That's just it. If you are confident in your religious beliefs enough to send young men and women throughout the world to preach it, if you are willing to hold it up as a shinning beacon and say "this is the truth" then you are opening yourself, your beliefs, religious practice, culture, etc., up to scrutiny, ridicule and debate. And when you get ultra defensive about it, all it does is make others suspicious. And being critical of others making fun of things you call "sacred" or don't normally go around talking about in public, like God living on a Planet called Kolob, or all true-believers ascending to the highest kingdom of heaven and getting their own planet (examples) doesn't really help the cause either. Dismissing the "sacred" things as unnecessary about your Dogma for the public to understand is only going to heighten the scrutiny and debate. Of course faith is funny, and it's fair game in the US where we have freedom of speech. No one has the right not to be offended, regardless of how offensive something may be. Choice means you can choose not to view or hear the offending messages.

  • Frodo Orem, UT
    June 18, 2011 2:51 p.m.

    A work of art that provokes such powerful discussions about faith, race, and the boundaries of social satire, refuses to be dismissed.

    I am intrigued by the way the 'Book of Mormon' musical simultaneously reinforces and undermines itself. Yes, it demeans religious faith as silly, but it also argues for its validity as a force for good in the world. Yes, it grossly portrays Africans as depraved and helpless, but at the same time it calls attention to the serious humanitarian issues in the region, and to the way those issues are being tackled by faith-based community organizations.

    There are no simple answers to the many questions raised by the 'Book of Mormon' musical. In that way, it's an absolute artistic success. It's challenging, it's provocative, it's relevant. But it doesn't have a clear agenda. It's holding a distorted mirror up to certain parts of our world, and asking us to take a closer look at those parts. Love it or hate it, the discussions it has generated are well worth having.

  • Reasonable Person Layton, UT
    June 18, 2011 2:49 p.m.

    Dr Harold Pease is quoted as saying "Imagine a script designed to 'gently mock' ..... Christianity and its sacred book the Bible,"

    May I remind Dr Pease: "Monty Python's Life of Brian"

    I think everyone needs to get over themselves, get back to work, quit worrying about what everyone else thinks and just be good people.