Brad Rock: Jimmer Fredette still playing to large crowds in Utah

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  • oldschool Farmington, UT
    June 20, 2011 5:12 p.m.

    The prospect of Harris or Watson or Price guarding Deron Williams or Chris Paul at the point, or Dwyane Wade or Kobe Bryant at shooting guard, is spooky, too. So what's your point?

  • rlsintx Plano, TX
    June 17, 2011 3:39 p.m.

    It's all moot discussion: the Celtics will end up with him somehow. They need a white guy in Boston, and Ainge is likely to make it happen.

  • Striker Omaha, NE
    June 16, 2011 11:06 a.m.

    Now that everyone has had a chance to see the Jimmer play, the word is spreading to other teams, and my belief is he'll go in the top 5. There is so much Buzz about Jimmmer and I think most teams believe they'd be crazy to not draft him. If anything, he'll sell tickets for the NBA, especially the team he is on. I think even Minnesota could take him. Imagine Kevin Love and Fredette playing together. What a combo!

  • oldcougar Orem, UT
    June 16, 2011 8:38 a.m.

    Yeah, Jimmer will probably be the only guy in the NBA who can't guard D Will, Chris Paul, D Wade, or Kobe. I wouldn't draft him, just for that reason. Sheeesh...

  • Observation-ist Ogden, UT
    June 16, 2011 8:16 a.m.

    Give me Jonas Valanciunas and the Jimmer. Tall, reasonably talented, but uninspired big men are really annoying (See Ostertag, Fesenko, etc). Jonas is young, hungry, and brings energy and fire to the court. Heart can't be taught. Skills can.

    Jimmer provides me two things: 1) He might just be a reasonably good starting PG. The drills at the combine show he has the lateral quickness to play D if he wants to. 2) If he isn't quite up to the starting PG task, I'd still be pleased if he anchors the 2nd team with Paul Milsap. Remember, Manu Ginobilli is the Spurs 6th man. If Jimmer becomes a teams version of Manu, please let it be the Jazz.

  • WhatsInItForMe Orem, Utah
    June 15, 2011 11:25 p.m.

    I'm not so sure the Jazz will maintain their ticket sales if they become a so-so team barely making the playoffs each year, or worse a team that misses it every other year or more.

    That could happen if they don't get some star-quality players on the team, in spite of how well Corbin might coach. Teams without stars aren't regular playoff contenders. Jazz fans got spoiled in the Stockton-Malone era.

    Favors and Hayward are possible all-stars, but not superstars. Not much else to shout about on the current Jazz roster.

    I feel like the Jazz are at a crossroads in this and next year's drafts, including any trading or free agent gets. If they can't get some stars on the team, it might be curtains.

    That's one of the reasons I'm so behind the Jazz drafting Jimmer. D-Will's gone, leaving the Jazz starless. Of all the prospects in the draft, I see Jimmer as the only real possible star.

    Williams would be equivalent to Favors & Hayward. Kanter, too, maybe. Knight, just another Harris. Same with Irving. Walker's no Jimmer.

    The Jazz need a threat, which is what a superstar is. Jimmer's a threat!

  • BlueSaint South Jordan, UT
    June 15, 2011 8:40 p.m.

    I see the Jazz taking Enis Kanter with the third pick. Some other scrub with the 12, and within three years have nothing to show for those picks. While Jimmer goes on and becomes an NBA Legend with one of the premiere teams in the NBA...Hopefully the Phoenix Suns. He needs a good Tan!

  • AFCoug Colorado Springs, CO
    June 15, 2011 6:43 p.m.

    I believe Jimmer goes elswhere. He simply will not be around at 12 and I don't think the Jazz take him at 3. That said I believe he is likely worth the 3 pick if Williams is gone. Who else would be available. a bunch of unproven, less mature, less popular players. Some European bigs including one who played one huge international game and hasn't played in a year. The Jazz are set at bigs with solid play from Milsap, Okur, Jefferson, and Favors. What they need is to spread the floor with a consistant deep threat and someone who can play high low with the bigs. Additionally they need a defensive SG who is 6'6'' or more and can score a bit and be consistant. I still beleive the best picks for Utah would be to get the 12 pick into the top 10 through a trade and get Jimmer and Burks from Colorado.

    Center - Jefferson/Okur
    PF - Favors/Milsap
    SF - Haywood/Miles/resigned discounted AK
    SG - Burks/Bell (teach a few things to the rookie)
    PG - Jimmer/Harris

    May have to give up a Harris or Miles to move into top 10 though.

  • Moderate Salt Lake City, UT
    June 15, 2011 6:27 p.m.

    RE: Duckhunter
    You are correct about struggling teams. One can understand interest in Jimmer The Seat Filler by The Kings (80% attendance) or The Pacers (74%). I'm not saying the Jazz (98%) shouldn't draft him. If he is available at 12 and is the best player available, or a good fit for the Jazz... take him. But don't fret if he is gone. The Jazz will still sell tickets.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    June 15, 2011 6:02 p.m.


    Maybe and maybe not. 400 seats multiplied out by 41 games is the equivalent of one more game. I remeber reading a home game is worth about 1 million dollars to the Jazz so the prospect of filling seats is probabaly at minimum a consideration. I doubt it is a big enough consideration to draft Jimmer over someone they feel is a better player but all other things being equal it would probably factor.

    Now for a team struggling to sell tickets, the Jazz obviously don't struggle to sell tickets, a player that could be a draw might be a huge factor.

  • Moderate Salt Lake City, UT
    June 15, 2011 5:00 p.m.

    For the 2010-2011 season, the Utah Jazz averaged crowds of 19,511. Seating capacity is 19,911. Do the Jazz really need to take Jimmer Fredette to sell those last 400 seats?

    Greg Miller recognizes the novelty factor of The Jimmer, but has also stated that winning is what will consistently fill the seats.

  • Jazz Source Alpine, UT
    June 15, 2011 4:46 p.m.

    Hey Rock, maybe you could share the list of players that can guard those PG's you listed? Last time I checked they are basically all allstars because they are talented and the NBA rules allow them to not be guarded so there is more scoring. Its not all because everyone who guards them are bad defenders.

    If you can't beat your man one on one in the NBA then you aren't much of a player.

    I'm not a Jimmer homer but my guess is Chris Paul might have a hard time defending Jimmer when he pulls up for a routine 3 pointer at 30 feet.

    Just say'in.