Mike Sorensen: Jimmer Fredette, Deron Williams talk golf and hoops

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  • ed Los Olivos, CA
    June 4, 2011 2:40 p.m.

    You have already learned that this is a difficult place for any subtle humor.....but keep trying. I think the responses are the real joke.

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    June 3, 2011 12:22 p.m.

    Does anyone on here have a sense of humor. I think Sorenson knows that Stockton was the best to ever play guard in Utah.

  • Real Bass Idaho Falls, ID
    June 2, 2011 8:34 p.m.

    M S needs a real job at the paper. Please keep him away from BYU stories!

  • motorbike Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 2, 2011 7:22 p.m.

    Sorenson needs his credentials removed for saying Jimmer is one of the 2 best point guards this state has seen.
    I'll echo what others have said about ANY point guard the Jazz have had pretty much ever until Jimmer at least steps on an NBA court.
    And to skip past Andre Miller who has one of 2 triple doubles ever in an NCAA tourney game and 2 sweet 16's, an elite 8 and a championship game all notched on his belt...simply amazing Sorenson. Lets see if Fredette gets drafted as high as Miller as well...not gonna happen. And look at Millers NBA career if you want to go a step further, he'll finish very high on the all-time career assists list when all is said and done in his career.
    Fredette is awesome, I'm a fan, but let's keep our feet on the ground and not look like complete fools with comments like 2 best point guards ever to play in the state of Utah. One day maybe, but he's got a long way to go.

  • Bugoff Houston, TX
    June 2, 2011 7:13 p.m.

    Nobody knows how good Kemba, Jimmer, Kryie or Knight are until they see them run a NBA team for a year. There is reason to believe they are all going to be good. It will take maybe 3 years to decide if any of them are going to be great.

  • Andy Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 2, 2011 12:57 p.m.

    Stopped reading after the first paragraph.

    To say the two best PGs to ever play in Utah are Jimmer and DWill and then to throw in, "oh yeah, that Stockton guy was pretty good too?" Ridiculous.

    I'm only 35 and I haven't forgotten that Stockton was the best PG to ever play in Utah, on any team, including visiting teams. I hope DWill and Jimmer both have fantastic careers and make the HoF one day, but currently there is absolutely no basis to say they are both better than Stockton.


  • Observation-ist Ogden, UT
    June 2, 2011 12:01 p.m.

    Just Sayin ...
    Jimmer is the same height yet lighter (196 vs 202) than Deron was coming out of college.

    Jimmer's has a slightly shorter wingspan (1.75) which translates into a shorter vertical reach (1.5 inches)
    Jimmer doesnt jump quite as high (33" vs 35")

    Those number affect his offensive game which no one doubts will translate into the NBA. Now the interesting part ...

    Jimmer is nearly as strong (14 vs 15 Benchpress), more agile (10.42 vs 10.83) and quicker (3.21 vs 3.25 sprint) than Deron was. I didn't make up those numbers. They are official pre-draft measurements.

    From a pure athletic 'ability' standpoint, Jimmer can play defense ... he just hasn't decided to play good defense yet. I'm hoping he decides to quickly.

    He's also strong enough to take the pounding we saw Deron take as he penetrated the lane. Jimmer will be able to get into the lane also AND he'll be able to body-up on the defensive end. It's in the numbers!!!!

  • Sokol Las Vegas, NM
    June 2, 2011 11:58 a.m.

    I think the Jimmer could be the next Adam Morrison...By the way, can any Deseret News basketball writer confirm the truth to the opinion on Hoopsworld that Al Jefferson is probably has the worst work ethic in the NBA...Why would the Jazz who have had Karl Malone, probably the hardest working player ever to play in the NBA, add Jefferson if he is that lazy?

  • Jeremy Brown Bountiful, UT
    June 2, 2011 11:18 a.m.

    Jimmer is one of the two best PGs to play in Utah since Stockton? I'm sorry, but that's ridiculous. Jimmer hasn't even proven that he can play at an NBA level. There are three PGs currently on the Jazz roster that have proven that and several that have played for the Jazz in the past that have proven that (Mo Williams for example).

  • byronbca Salt Lake City, UT
    June 2, 2011 11:04 a.m.

    To put Jimmer on the same level as Stockton and DWill is a bit premature. He's not better than Devon Harris, no way, he may become better, but right now I'm not sure he's better than any of the Jazz's starting point guards, ever.

    Jimmer is the best college point guard this state has ever had, but there is a Grand Canyon sized difference between best college player and best player.

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    June 2, 2011 10:17 a.m.

    heir sports;
    why did you read it and then why did you take the time ot comment on it? Jimmer Fredette is a bonafide star on a national level. The fact that he is the first ever college athlete ever invited to this event speaks loud and clear. There are a lot of Jimmer articles almost every week and I am a little tired of them too but you know you'll miss them when (if) they stop.

  • WhatsInItForMe Orem, Utah
    June 2, 2011 10:10 a.m.

    Wow. Jimmer's the first-ever collegian to be invited to the Tahoe golf event!

    Guess being a college POY of Jimmer's caliber says something.

    Hope it's televised.

  • Bugoff Houston, TX
    June 2, 2011 10:05 a.m.

    Jimmer is a bona fide celebrity.

    Hoopsworld says he is shooting up the board. He may be worth much more to the Jazz (raised ticket prices/other sales) than to any other team.

    If Jimmer does well in the NY workouts and starts to get top 10 work outs the Jazz will have to decide if they want Jimmer or Knight. KOC appears to be high on Knight but Jimmer has to appeal to Greg and the financial types.

    If it gets to the point where the two are perceived as more or less equal then the Jazz should go with Jimmer. That has not happened yet but the risk of Jimmer being gone at 12 is increasing rapidly.

    Knight is a decent defender, very quick and considered to have a lot of upside.

    The biggest question about Knight/Jimmer is how well can they run the flex? CAN they max the overall play of the team?

    It is not about scoring or defense alone. It is about maxing the ability of the team on net point differential. Your team has to score more than your opponent.

    It is a team game on both D and O.

  • hier sports Washington, UT
    June 2, 2011 9:54 a.m.

    Wow! What an article. I'm so moved by this information. I understand it was a slow day in sports, but heck this compelling (not) junk is laughable.

    D-Will and his people don't understand timezones, and listing the odds for these two guys winnning the tournament was something really valuable.

    Thanks MS.