Religious freedom report criticizes Egypt and Obama

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  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    April 28, 2011 10:01 p.m.

    For BO to designate a country a CPC he'd have to know something about foreign countries. His foreign policy mirror's bush's except for his groveling before despots because he doesn't know what else to do. He's totally clueless.

  • John Pack Lambert of Michigan Ypsilanti, MI
    April 28, 2011 9:36 p.m.

    The Obama administrations failure to adequately oppose the attempts of certain Islamic countries to impose a world-wide ban on speaking ill of Islam should disturbe people more than it does.

    Religious freedom has been seriously undermined by the Obama administrations failures to proactively lobby against such.

    Blasphemy laws do not just hurt non-Muslims. They are as likely to be used as clubs by one Islamic group to impose its views and interpretation on others. If we fail to speak up more forcefully many more people will suffer the fate of the Amadiyah Muslims of Pakistan.

  • John Pack Lambert of Michigan Ypsilanti, MI
    April 28, 2011 9:31 p.m.

    It would help if people recognized that this article merely reports what the commission said in its reports. There may be legitmate reasons to not list countries that torture and murder people for having what the country views as unacceptable religious views, but the article is merely saying that this commission criticized the failure to list.

    Some of the complainst about this article seem to be a case of shooting the messenger.

  • John Pack Lambert of Michigan Ypsilanti, MI
    April 28, 2011 9:28 p.m.

    The work of this organization is in line with the 12th article of faith. If we claim the privalege of worshipping Almighty God and grant all others the privalege to worship who, where or what they may, then we should be working to promote the right of people to worhip freely in every country on the globe, and if we do not than such words are just empty rhetoric.

    These are the most important foriegn policy issues, and it is sad that the Ambassado-at-large for Religious liberty is not given the same rank as other ambassadors at large.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    April 28, 2011 1:49 p.m.

    I seriously would not be surprised at all to see the Administration just sit on their hands and watch as the UN uses it's "Responsibility to protect" doctrine to crack down on nations that want to preserve their religious freedom. Worse yet... I would not be surprised to see us, and our military, get pulled into these attacks and crack downs on people and nations that want religious freedom, especially if these people who are in the religious minority.

    I suspect there will come a time shortly where Israel is under attack from her neighbors... and we will just sit idly by, if not PARTICIPATE in the attempted destruction of Israel... and just watch as religious minorities are wiped out in Middle Eastern nations.

    The administration just shows no interest in protecting religious freedom. Their only priority and interest seems to be... "Don't offend Muslims at all costs".

  • jsf Centerville, UT
    April 28, 2011 1:15 p.m.

    Give the guy a break, he sent every cdc country an ipod with jeremiah's speeches.

  • BH Tremonton, UT
    April 28, 2011 12:29 p.m.

    No one should be surprised by findings reported in this article. Obama has been very clear in his attitude towards the value of religious freedom.

    Everyone who cherishes freedom, whether religious or not, should be gravely concerned about the trend away from valuing religious freedom. Religious freedom is as important to all freedoms, as a single leg is to a three-legged stool. One only needs to look at countries like Iran, Pakistan, and China to understand this.

    it is frightening to have a president of the United States, the one country which should be a standard for the world of what freedom should look like, who does not hold great value in religious freedom.

  • Michael De Groote
    April 28, 2011 11:04 a.m.

    For those who are interested in seeing just how bad things are in the CPCs and the countries recommended to be CPCs, the full report is available now on the USCIRF website (the link is at the beginning of the article).

    Also, if you haven't clicked on the article's map graphic, you should take a look at it.

    The report, by the way, was dedicated this way:
    "The 2011 Annual Report is dedicated to the memory of Shahbaz Bhatti, the Pakistani Federal Minister for Minorities Affairs. Shahbaz was a courageous advocate for the religious freedoms of all Pakistanis, and he was assassinated on March 2 by the Pakistani Taliban for those efforts."

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    April 28, 2011 10:12 a.m.

    If this bipartisan report is a surprise to the faithful Obama_defenders out there, or is denied outright... they need to look at what's going on around the world, and that Obama and America is doing NOTHING to prevent abuse of religious people/groups. Consider pulling your head out of the sand on this one and take a look at reality. Obama does GREAT on some things internationally... supporting religious freedom is just not one of them... admit it!

    He doesn't have to be great at EVERYTHING. Maybe this just isn't his top priority right now. Just because he's not great at THIS ONE THING... isn't the end of the world!... I hope.

  • dumprake Washington, UT
    April 28, 2011 10:01 a.m.

    Marxists have always been hostile to religion. Obama or Hillary or anybody else in this administration "saying" the right things, does not overcome the fact that this administration is fairly hostile to religion and religious freedom. Their acts speak much louder than their false words.

  • jsf Centerville, UT
    April 28, 2011 9:38 a.m.

    When Obama was running for president he promised to label the Armenian Genocide a genocide. Each year he has refused to do so as President.

  • TMR Santa Monica, CA
    April 28, 2011 8:19 a.m.

    This article is unfair. Not listing certain countries on the CDC is a diplomatic tactic, not a statement of Obama's lack of commitment to international religious rights. Where is the counterpoint DN? A little more nuanced journalism would be nice.

  • Chickenchaser Centralia, WA
    April 28, 2011 8:07 a.m.

    How many of these mean spirited CPCs receive U.S.aid with no strings attached?

  • Liberal Ted Salt Lake City, UT
    April 28, 2011 7:52 a.m.

    obama is too busy taking vacations and thinking of how to redistribute the wealth to his buddies and foreign nations.

    We're still not even to the 8% unemployment that he promised borrowing and spending $5 Trillion was going to fix.

    He promised to get us out of Iraq, we're still there. He promised to get us out of Afghanistan, we're still there. He promised not to meddle in foreign countries, we're in Libya, Korea, Germany, Japan, Philippines, Columbia, Mexico, Pakistan, Georgia, Russia, China just to name a few. Yet he stood by when Iran massacred it's people while Syrians are murdered by their government, when China cracked down on its people.

    Do we have to invade countries when tyrant governments murder their people. Well that's up to us to decide. Should we at least say something about these violations? Absolutely! Why not speak up against crimes? Against Murder? Against those who take away freedom and make slaves out of humans?

    Remember we didn't get our freedom until people spoke up and said something about it. We didn't get freedom without other nations "interfering" in other peoples business.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    April 28, 2011 7:39 a.m.

    @ FDRfan. Remember that it was Hillary Clinton during the last campaign that started this birther issue with Obama during her debates with Obama! I agree that it is silly and a waste of time but it was fellow liberal Hillary who was enlightened enough to start it all! She also warned us that Obama was unprepared and unqualified to lead this nation! According to recent polls, most Americans now agree with Hillary on this!

  • FDRfan Sugar City, ID
    April 28, 2011 7:13 a.m.

    We don't have time to devote to this silly stuff. It is far more important to address the birther and college worthiness issues. We are too enlightened for this.

  • OHBU Columbus, OH
    April 28, 2011 6:44 a.m.

    Give me a break, it is not our responsibility to fix the entire world. Obama's administration is currently engaged in trying to set up free, democratic governments in Iraq, Afghanistan, Egypt and Libya. In addition, they have to use as much pressure as possible against Iran and North Korea to ward off the threat of nuclear attack. We don't have that much more diplomatic leverage to give. Oh yeah, and he's trying to steer our own country back on course after the disastrous policies of the previous administration. Besides, if he dedicated a staff to investigate and make recommendations for this NGO's report, I'm sure it would only be construed as a waste of taxpayer dollars.

  • ECR Burke, VA
    April 28, 2011 5:39 a.m.

    So sad that the Mormon Times and the Deseret News have found yet another subject by which to criticize the president. In their 2010 annual report, USCIRF criticized the president, and Secretary Clinton for using the term "freedom of worship" and quote both of them.

    In China, the president said, We do not seek to impose any system of government on any other nation, but we also don't believe that the principles that we stand for are unique to our nation. These freedoms of expression and worship - of access to information and political participation - we believe are universal rights.

    In her December 14, 2009 address on human rights at Georgetown University, Secretary Clinton said, "To fulfill their potential, people must to worship, associate, and to love in the way they choose." She also called "for the rights to express oneself and worship freely" in China. In
    her January 21, 2010 Internet freedom speech she said, "We must work to advance the freedom of worship online just as we do in other areas of life."

    Is "worship" a bad thing? I suppose it is different than religion because it is done by an individual. Is that bad?

  • My2Cents Kearns, UT
    April 28, 2011 3:34 a.m.

    I don't think the US or Obama can list any country on a CDC without listing the US among those listed. The US national security agency's, about 6 now, are among the worst offenders of all freedoms, religious and civil.

    Can't see that this list is really of any value anyway, as we have no right to meddle in other nations policies and religious practices. It's not like there has been a resurrection of Nazism. Some nations just have different religious preferences that is nobody's business, unless you are a meddler.

  • toosmartforyou Farmington, UT
    April 27, 2011 11:38 p.m.

    A report criticizing OBama. Gosh, is that really news? I'd be really shocking to see the current administration do anything of a statesman-like quality. I'd cheer for them, should they ever do such.