Congressman urges lawsuit on Utah immigration law

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  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    April 21, 2011 11:38 a.m.

    There has been a tendency in politics to often put the cart before the horse, meaning priorities often get mixed up. Before any meanful immigration reform should even be considered, we need to secure our borders. Period! Without control at the borders, everything else involving new immigration laws is (or should be) secondary.
    I know of no other industrialized country in the world which has such lax border controls as the southern border of the USA. There are literally many hundreds of illegal aliens crossing every day into our country, with very little control of who they are, what their intents are, and what they might be bringing into our country (drugs, contraband, etc.). Until that border issue is completely under control, talk of any other parts of illegal immigration reform is premature and should come afterward.
    Strictly enforcing existing immigration laws (border control, not hiring undocumented people, etc.) would then make it unnecessary to pass many of these new laws being presented. It's not as complicated as many people try to make the issue. It just takes some personal resolve and some political backbone to do what the majority of citizens have already expressed they want.

  • Trooper55 Williams, AZ
    April 21, 2011 10:33 a.m.

    I agree with Rep. Smith that the Feds need to step in and take the bull by the horns. I also agree that this bill should be over turned. Giving any break to the illegals for breaking the laws of this country is crazy. I further believe that we shouldn't give them any of the benfits at taxpayer's pockets is foolish and needs to stop, and send them back were they came from.

  • Doug10 Roosevelt, UT
    April 21, 2011 9:30 a.m.

    Shurtleff is over his head.

    Herbert is now guilty on two accounts this bill which is illegal no matter which way you look at it and the bill allowing government people to keep their information secret. Not a good time at the legislature this past season governor.

    It bothers me that the governor was willing to spend my money to keep the illegals here yet he was unwilling to extend more help to those on unemplyment insurance who had to have legal jobs in order to collect in the first place.

    I wonder when he got so out of touch with reality?

  • Candidate Jackson Sandy, UT
    April 21, 2011 7:16 a.m.

    Those amongst us who favor HB116 might appeal our federal legislators to create a waiver for the Utah guest worker program. I emailed my congressmen last night and encourage others to do the same.

  • dcart Salt Lake city, UT
    April 21, 2011 6:59 a.m.

    I had some quality face to face time with the Gov. regarding this bill last Saturday at SLCGOP Convention and told him 'You have lost my vote'! Herbert listened only to the LDS church officials and business leaders. The LDS church has since back peddled stating they do NOT approve of people breaking laws 'hello identity theft'? I will personally support anyone in a primary against Gov. Herbert! Being fearful of a supposed economic backlash as AZ has allegedly experienced is NOT a reason to not veto HR116. As soon as Herbert passed this bill UT AG Mark Shurtleff was on plane to Wash D.C. trying to convince White House that UT had solution to immigration issue. LOL every heard of chain migration? There are one way U-hauls leaving AZ for UT and our crime rate will go up as well as our financials go down. No longer are UT STATE Municipal bonds a good buy rather good bye! Interesting that crime in AZ has gone down and their budgetary issue have improved since they took a tuff stance. Time to take one of those UHauls and leave UT?

  • cjb Bountiful, UT
    April 21, 2011 6:34 a.m.

    The problem with the Arizona law is it let to unequal treatment of people who are citizens. Citizens who look like they could be non citizens would have been profiled by police carrying out Arizona's law.

    The same is not the case with the Utah law. Therefore the motivation to move against the Utah law is lower. Obama was absolutely right to move against the Arizona law. He has the right to move against the Utah law if he wishes, however if he chooses not to thats okay too.

    The federal government can't do everything, there are priorities. Moving against the Utah law, because it is a better less obtrusive law is not as high of a priority.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    April 21, 2011 6:04 a.m.

    Lamar Smith, R-Texas, is a hypocrite himself. The Republicans have been fighting against any reform legislation in Washington, so how can we do anything but end up with state level laws? And I thought the Republicans loved states rights. They are just big game players intent on gaining power (because it is profitable to them and their lobbyist friends), and not about resolving issues. Mark my word on that.

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    April 20, 2011 9:06 p.m.

    Smith is correct. This was a bad law and the legislators should have realized that and voted against it, and the Governor should have vetoed it.

    Repeal it! That will be less expensive than paying hordes of lawyers to defend it, only to loose anyway.

  • Uncle Charles Where freedom and liberty reign, utah
    April 20, 2011 8:16 p.m.

    Hey Herbert: if the law doesn't go into effect for 2 years, then why pass it this year? Why not try to get your unconstitutional waiver and then pass the law when you want it to take effect?

    Seems kind of stupid to pass something that isn't any good for 2 years.

    Smith is correct. Holder is incompetent. Obama has never read the COTUS let alone taught it anywhere.

    Looks like we know who needs to go at the next convention: Shurtleff and Herbert.

  • tabuno Clearfield, UT
    April 20, 2011 6:34 p.m.

    There would be no hypocrasy if the Federal government acting as the executive administrator over its lawfully given Constitutional authority approved a waiver especially as parts of the Utah law have been developed with the cooperation of the Mexican government in the absence of any existing federal law on the matter. In the void, the Federal government has the authority to regulate immigration and decide whether or not to approve Utah's law having considered the comprehensive implications across the entire nation.

  • Ok Salt Lake City, Utah
    April 20, 2011 5:48 p.m.

    The guest worker bill needs to be repealed, pronto. The way to avoid the federal lawsuit is to revoke the bill that should have never been passed by the legislature and signed into law by Gov Herbert. We need to get rid of that law and then get rid of Gov Herbert and any legislator who continues to defend the passing of that law.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    April 20, 2011 5:45 p.m.

    Shurtleff's and Herbert's objections are pure bunk. The state legislature's own attorneys told them the bill was unconstitutional, so they are complaining that a congressman from Texas agrees with their own attorneys??

    The whole idea of "requesting a waiver" from the feds is also bunk. Neither the administration or the congress can waive the requirements of the constitution.

  • Emophiliac Vernal, UT
    April 20, 2011 5:38 p.m.

    One can only hope that HB116 and other such bills that were passed this term can be overturned, either in the special session or by the Feds. Utah just hasn't got the right to mess with immigration. It does have the right to handle employment, though, so they should get busy on requiring eVerify and such for all businesses.

  • We the People Sandy, UT
    April 20, 2011 4:49 p.m.

    Senator Smith is correct.

  • praxis Salt Lake City, UT
    April 20, 2011 4:39 p.m.

    "This is hypocritical. If (the Justice Department) chooses not to take legal action against Utah's unconstitutional law, it will be clear the Administration bases their decisions on their own political views rather than constitutional principle," Rep. Lamar Smith, R-Texas

    I could not agree more!

    There is ALREADY an existing federal guest worker program. The problem is Utah employers and agriculture just don't want to use it. Utah's SB 116 should have made it mandatory to use the existing plan.

    For those that say the program is flawed, broken or doesn't work - recent enforcement efforts in other states show that the program DOES work. Search nytimes(dot)com for "Illegal Workers Swept from Jobs in Silent Raids" - published 10 July 2010