Really the Jazz chose Memo over Boozer....only to get the Booz curse, Memo goes
down, Memo goes down.......The Jazz problem this past year is really
about the athletes we lost on the perimeter over the last year, Matthews,
Brewer, and 3 point shooting with Korver more than the loss inside with Booz.
Hey we finally beat LA in LA without Booz.......I think everyone forgets that
D-Will was having a monster year before his wrist injury. Everyone was talking
about D-Will even more than Rose at that time.
CJ, "be on the floor" is the key phrase, along with the part you left
out where Boozer's contract is twice as long for almost FOUR times as much money
as Paul's.How about this: I'll take Paul & Noah, you can have Al
& Boozer?elpistola, you forgot how Brewer's agent demanded
4yrs/$35mil inc max upfront signing bonus from the Jazz, and KOC sent him
packing for a bag of balls. Then he tears his hamstring and is happy to get the
scraps Chicago threw him as a favor to Boozer & Korver. I love Brew, and
unlike Sloan, Thibs knows he's a 8th-9th man, not a starter. Wait til the
Finals when the Lakers don't guard him tho.AK's contract was bad,
and the Jazz should've cut bait long ago. Hey, how'd that LaMarcus Aldridge for
Ty Thomas trade turn out for the Bulls? At least it allowed you to pay double
market value for Boozer, who's less efficient (esp on defense), far more
fragile, and four years older than Aldridge, so that's something.Thanks for playing, see ya soon, good luck in the Finals.
re; cj miles maby they will pick up cj in chicgo and you can be a bulls fan. i
would say a bozzer fan but he dosen't play enough to have fans. but comparing
the two same scoring average this year one played almost all the games one
played half the games were is the comparison? if millsap was playing with noah
like boz he would be a beast. instead he played with al who cain't pick up the
pick and roll on off and has very little def. on second thought it would be
better if they traded millsap to a team that has some good players half utah's
players are old washed up vets other half rookies. soon to be more rookies with
al and millsap i smell a championship.
If I had to choose between Boozer or Millsap to be on the floor, I would choose
Boozer every time. Not even a close comparision.
The Bulls have been building this team for years. They have been on the back
burner of the NBA since Jordan left. Chicago can have Boozer, Kyle and Ronnie.
They will contribute now, but for how long? I feel confident that this Jazz
organization will put the pieces together and the young guys will mature
quickly. The Jazz will be a force to be reckoned with soon. They will also do it
in half the time it took the Bulls to return, just watch. Please get
Jimmer!! Who cares if he is a risk, we are all curious to see how he would fare
with our team and it would be even that much sweeter if he turns into a star.
i don't get the camparison of millsap and noah? noah is a center who the
camparison should be is noah and jefferson. millsap's comparison would be boz
wich millsap always has been a better defender than boz no camparison boz
averaged 17.5 a game and only played half the year as always. millsap averaged
17.5 and missed a couple of games. let's compare favors to millsap oh no
camparison favors 4-6 points a game gets a couple of dunks a game preety
comparable to evens what a beast let's send millsap to the bench and start
favors he has busted his but for 4 years worked so hard' got to be better than
millsap he was the number 3 pick. about like he is better than cousins 5 pick.
glad they diden't hire any of you to coach probly start opy evens favors fes
As a Bull's fan, We appreciate truly your well wishes. I do want to correct the
record though on your article. We have wanted Carlos for a while and he
apparently wanted us too. He unfortunately was our #2 rebounder not #1 - Noah
was #1. We do wish he could play defense, I'm sure you noticed he sits on the
defensive end in favor of Taj Gibson at the end of games. We hope he'll learn
to defend a back door cut some day. Kyle is a wonderful if defense challenged
addition too, Derrick Rose shoots 86% from the floor though not that far a cry
from Korver (and nearly 7X the number of free throws as Korver). Brewer is
great, too bad you let him go too, I'm sure he was your best defender. What did
we get him for - $4.8M? You did keep Kirilenko though for what...$17M+? He
doesn't play defense either does he? You can thank us for Sloan and now Corbin
(Chicago products). See you next time you get in the playoffs in ... 2020.
Maybe you can get some more Russians on your team for $20M+
On paper and currently...the Bulls are better than the Jazz...in a few
years...its a different story...remember we have 3 rookies...who would vastly
improve in the coming years...defense wise...Noah and Asik is better than Al
Jeff and Fes...scoring wise...its just Al Jeff against the two...in a few more
years...we will be a better team...but...due to the fact that we play in the
West...its going to be tough
What I haven't noticed mentioned in other comments that would've made a huge
difference for the Jazz this year is the Wes Matthews factor. The double digit
average output per game difference this year between he and Raja Bell, his
replacement, was enough to have made a huge difference on the results of how
this past season went. Had we kept Matthews and had that output difference, we
consequently would've won many of those close games we lost after midseason.
Then DWill probably would've had a better attitude toward the team and
consequently toward coach Sloan... who then would probably still be coaching.
Had that happened, there is also a high probability we would currently be
enjoying watching the Jazz in the playoffs instead of sitting home analyzing
these would've-been, could've-been, should've-been scenarios.
Comparing Noah to Millsap? Now that is the biggest joke I have ever heard.
Noah is a defensive monster. Millsap? Well let's just say he can't defend
anyone that is taller or quicker than him. When's the last time you saw Noah
getting out-worked by an offensive player? How about never.Deng is
10 times the player that AK is. Rose is a better point guard than Dwill will
ever be.The only reason Korver is having success in Chicago is he
doesn't have Jerry as his coach.
Doug, this is just a rehash of a column written for another local paper a week
or so ago. Jazz fans are eager for the future, aside from the handful still
obsessed with Derek Fisher, whose red flag you made sure to wave. We like Korver & Brewer and if we can't win we want them to. Boozer is
4th banana on the Bulls and not expected to be a cornerstone, and both his &
Korver's contracts are far above market value. Had Brewer been willing at the
time to accept what the Bulls gave him he'd still be here.Rose is
far better than DWrist, and Noah's D is far better than anything the Jazz have
thought about since the days of Ostertag, if not Eaton.The biggest
difference is at head coach tho. Thibodeau doesn't just talk about defense,
toughness & teamwork, he demands it, and he tolerates none of the nonsense
Sloan winked at for the last five years. Millsap & Al are better than
Boozer with far better contracts but it's not nearly enough.
Jazz have always produced good players. The team is the farm for the whole
league. It is frustrating to see players leave and do really well on
other teams. Something was wrong to keep them from playing to their potentials.
Or some hated each other and didn't feel like a team and they feel better on
their new teams. Who knows.It's just sad as a Jazz fan to see it all
unravel. Bring in "The Jimmer", the great white hope.
(Harris teaches then transitions to back up). Get a good solid true
center that can cause trouble in the paint and vacuum rebounds (Dwight
Howardesque) (trade some of the Forwards(way too many) and Okur, and almost
anyone else you have to)Finally get a drop em' dead, ace 3 ball
shooting guard to accompany "The Jimmer" and with existing pieces you
have a "team".Prefer to keep Milsap, Favors, Bell.
Everybody else could be traded if needed for above to happen.
You forgot to mention that the Bulls have Luol Deng, who is defensively
efficient as Andre Kirilenko but a much better shooter. Millsap is weak
defensively, so he cannot be compared to Noah. We also have a coach who isn't
past his prime and promotes defense in his system. This team is nothing like the
Jazz team of last year. Brewer and Korver are much better defenders under
Thibodeau, and that is what really matters.
Hey, Doug, don't forget about the other ex-Jazz players still contributing to
their teams: Stevenson, Pavlovic, Arroyo, Koufos, Matthews and Fisher.
Combined with Boozer, Brewer and Korver, this could make a pretty good team,
probably enough to win the first round and maybe the second. If it weren't for
all the ifs and buts, the Jazz fans would go nuts. Imagine the possibilities if
the Jazz had kept the picks for Magic Johnson and Dominique Wilkins and then
traded up to draft Michael Jordan or had been smart enough to get positioned to
draft Larry Bird a year early the way Red Auerbach did! Or drafted Kevin McHale
instead of Darrell Griffith. Or Danny Ainge instead of Danny Schayes or (gasp)
Howard Wood? Sure as shooting, with some of those players the Jazz would have
reached the finals and probably would have won the championship long before
Malone showed up. Now, will the Jazz pass up Jimmer because he's white and
played college ball in Utah? Just the way the Jazz have passed up on pretty
well every other great Utah college player?
Some fans seem to forget that Boozer did not want to come back to Utah, and that
Utah could not afford to pay him his market value anyway. It all comes down to
one huge mistake, and that was paying AK top dollar. Nobody knew how bad he
would get, how often he would be injured, how emotionally unstable he would seem
at times, etc. He is better now, of course, but still not worth max money and
all the restrictions that go with it. Now he is valuable to the Jazz, but only
at a certain price. Whoever says Harris couldn't lead the Jazz to a
championship is probably the same logic-challenged person who said the Little
General could lead the Spurs to a championship. Jazz fans must take part of the
blame by refusing to accept the fact that Boozer did not sit out due to injury
because he wanted to do so. Don't these cerebrally challenged fan(atics)
remember that he came back TOO EARLY from his first hamstring injury? Or that
AK and Memo both tried to come back too early, leading to disaster?
If you watch the Bulls' games, Boozer, in many clutch situations is right where
he needs to be: on the bench.Too bad he was our "clutch" player
here.That's the difference.
Boozer and Williams were locker room cancers. Did you ever notice how much crud
Hayward and AK got from Williams. Need to get rid of Bell too, he can't play.
The biggest difference and the biggest reason Boozer just didn't quite work out
here in Utah is simple, Noah is the Bulls center and Okur was ours. You can't
build a team around 2 non defensive big men. You can't rely on your small
forward to be your inside shot blocking presence and your best perimeter
defender as well. I think OKC has it perfect. You got the shot blocker in Ibaka
and the defensive position guy in Perkins who will D up his own man and also
slide over to take charges. Okur was decent at low post defense, but both he and
Boozer could not move their feet if their guy faced up on them. If we run with
Favors and Jefferson next year, I hope Al is working on his position defense. He
has great footwork on offense, why can't that translate on the defensive end?
As a Jazz fan, I am not rooting for the Bulls. Those players that played for
Utah are no longer Jazz players so I don't root for them, they are on a
different team, but I do hope they do well. I've watch some playoff games and
just want to see some good B-Ball no pressure not having your team in the
playoffs, I really hope to see an underdog make a mess of things.I
was a fan of all those former Jazzmen that now don the colors of M.J. and
company of old. I liked watching Booze bang and yell but dont miss the Ole D, I
miss (Kale) Korver shoot it, and R.Brew's energy and dunks, I miss them all but
root for da Bulls, never! But man they just might take the ring. If they do i
will hide a smile.Since the Jazz came to Utah long ago every year I
tell people this is the year they win it all, I will say the same thing for next
season! Im a Jazz fan for better or for worse.
Boozer was a cancer just like D-Will, but Korver was the keeper and shooter we
miss. His defense isn't as bad as some of you say, but the difference is the
defensive system. He's playing within a system that is #1 in the league in
defense and when he was here it was an ancient "Sloan" system that
doesn't work and hasn't for many years. Hire a defensive coach Ty, amd copy the
Bulls and Celtics defensive schemes thats all. For all of you maucho males that
felt threatened by Korver being good looking and getting the ladies raves your
just that "maucho", and insecure apparently about yourselves because
he is and was a needed team member here.
In watching Chicago's first two playoff games, it's obvious Boozer is still
Boozer. And, he's not the reason they're winning---Rose and others are. Still,
Boozer and Korver are integral parts of the equation for this team, which is why
they are winning.Posters here are on the money that this is a much
better team overall than the Jazz ever were, even when Boozer was here with
D-Will and Millsap and AK, etc.I'll be really happy if the
"Chicago Jazz" win the title, because I always liked Korver, in spite
of his poor defense. And, I never really felt down on Boozer. He is what he is,
a rebounder and scorer with little defense. Brewer is another I think should
have been kept by the Jazz, but not as a starter.I like Rose, too.
They guy just plays.
Good job Greg Miller!
Boozer is on the floor in Chicago for the same reason he was in Utah. While he
was out there he will take the high pressure shot as would Williams. Sloan knew
that if Boozer and Deron were on the floor he had a chance of winning, any time
in the league. Boozer is an animal in the league and in Chicago where the
entire offense is run through Rose Boozer is not called upon to score as often
as he was here but he is ferocious on the boards.The Jazz if they
could have had another animal like Noah things could have been different but
instead they had European players like AK and Okur who are big but do not play
well inside. Probably the thing that kept them from getting someone like Noah
to help was AK and his huge contract that crippled the Jazz everytime that
someone was available the price tag was too high.Chicago did not
have an AK contract and now they have a very good team, not a dynamic duo but a
Unfortunately, there are a few big differences with Chicago's team and Utah's
team. 1. Noah is a lot bigger than Kirelenko and Milsap what a
horrible comparison. 2. Derek Rose- lets just say it everyone he's BETTER
than Deron Williams a lot better. 3. Deng is better than Miles, and Taj
Gibson can play.4. Top to bottom Chicago is just better than what
the Jazz would have been had they kept Boozer. So far Chicago's success is all
Derek Rose, Boozer has not played well his rebounding is what keeps him on the
floor late in games. I'll give him props for that, but he is not counted on to
score in Chicago like he was in Utah.
Where were all the local reporters using thier resources to keep Brewer, Boozer,
and Korver before? Great question.I think our problem here with the
Jazz is that we think we need another stockton and malone show. why do we need
a "dynamic duo?" Why can't we just get a good team?The
Bulls just don't have Boozer, Brewer, and Korver...They got a great team. They
use all thier players well.
Unlike "WhatsInItForMe," I don't own a gypsy's crystal ball. I'm not
a BYU fan; however, I am a Jimmer fan. The hype and attention that he was given
may get tiring for some; however, I think he handled fame with class.
"Some are born great-others have it thrust upon them." With him, it
is both. So how often does this come even close to Utah. Face it we're small
potatoes. When you find a pearl among the clams--don't throw it back into the
I think that the difference is that Derek Rose is playing at a much higher level
than we have ever seen from Williams. I'm not sure Williams is even capable.
Plus, Noah is more of an inside presence than Millsap offensive,
defensively, and emotionally. I would rather have Millsap however. And, they
have Luol Deng who should arguably been oh the All Star team this year. Plus, the first two weeks of camp were spent on "defense" -
probably why Boozer hurt himself in order to skip that part.I find
myself pulling for them since no other team is appealing...can't believe it!
my sentiments exactly. and i am rooting for the bulls to win the title
I don't think the Jazz are in a terrible spot, but it sure would be nice
watching them in the playoffs. It was clear that the FO should've committed to
Dwill and Boozer, the two players who were obviously key to any success.
Instead, they planned around other players. If they had planned on keeping
Boozer, man, I won't get into the team we could have right now, but Boozer on
the team was unacceptable to EVERY reporter, why,isn't it their job to
make us fans appreciate our best players,if not,it's the reporters
that need to get out, not our best players.There's one thing that I
think Doug can teach me, and that's how to make crow taste like chicken.
The thing I don't understand about these reporters is that none of them, not
one, wrote an article in defense of keeping boozer in utah, now they want to act
like martryrs, everyone of them writing before last summer should be fired for
being hypocrites instead.And this article feels like now we're being
punished, jazz fans arenot being punished, no one is making you watch bball if
you don't want to, if i don't want to watch the jazz lose w/o boozer then i
don't have to,watching bball is about what is interesting to the
individual, boozer was not interesting to these reporters, now the jazz aren't
interesting for anyone,thanks.
I'm rooting for the Chicago Jazz to win it!But, for next year's
Jazz...Players w/contracts of 2+ years:Jefferson (C/PF,
26 years old w/7 years experience, 2 more years on contract); hard to replaceFavors (PF, 19 w/1, 3); franchise typeMillsap (PF/SF, 26 w/5, 2); still
valuableHarris (PG, 28 w/7, 2); can't lead team to championshipBell
(SG, 34 w/11, 2); trade, if possibleHayward (SG/SF, 21 w/1, 3); possible
superstarPlayers w/1 year contracts:Okur (C/PF, 31 w/9);
who knows with him? Trade?Evans (SF, 23 w/1); keeper if he develops
outside shotFree agents to re-sign:Watson (PG, 31 w/10);
too good a price for this good of a backupKirilenko (SF/PF, 30 w/10); does
so many things, but injury prone anymoreFesenko (C, 24 w/4); closes down
the middle when he's playing; hard to ignore thatMiles (SF/SG, 24 w/6); if
you must; depends on the draft or tradesDON'T re-sign Elson or
Price.DO draft Jimmer (1st pick), and maybe a hot-shooting SF.