Utah Jazz win final game of season

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  • BillM75 Salt Lake City, UT
    April 14, 2011 7:49 p.m.

    The Michael Jordans, Kobe Bryants, etc, LOL, there are more than one of each? You don't "afford" guys like that, you either draft them or else are a desirable team that THEY want to sign with as a free agent. How many LeBron Jameses has San Antonio signed as free agents?

  • CocoNutzz Salt Lake City, UT
    April 14, 2011 4:56 p.m.

    @ NeddGrimey its what being a sports fan is about. Its something to talk about, and discuss. Try adding on to the discussion, if not move along.

  • NedGrimley Brigham City, UT
    April 14, 2011 4:40 p.m.

    It's a good thing there are so many people on these posts that know what the Jazz need and don't need. I can't imagine where we'd be without the vast array of knowledge and wisdom found here.

  • weedeater Murray, UT
    April 14, 2011 4:31 p.m.

    My wish for Karl Malone's involvement in Favors' development is to send Favors to Lousiana to go huntn' with Karl alone. Karl talks a little bit about huntn' n stuff (Karl talk little is part of my wish-ha), then simply say to Derrick some thing like "You know, I was ROUGH when I came in the league, I was young, kinda' like you." And that's it.

  • CTguy30 Colchester, CT
    April 14, 2011 4:26 p.m.

    Having grown up in Utah, and now being exposed to "real" pro-sports teams here on the East Coast, I've come to realize that from the ownership down to the least paid player, the Utah Jazz will ALWAYS be the same organization year in and year out. They'll have good years, even great years, but I have NEVER seen ANY consistency, like I saw in the Stockton/Malone era, and even then, they weren't a powerhouse; I mean, they had to contend with Jordan and the Bulls. Until the ownership can afford the M. Jordans, K. Bryants, or L. James, the Utah Jazz will always just having their "ups and downs". Either way, you just have to love them or not.

  • Dr Truth SLC, ut
    April 14, 2011 3:45 p.m.

    Hayward, Evans, Favors, Milsap and Jefferson are all high percentage shooters. What should excite Jazz fans is that 3 of them are rookies. And even as their time expanded at the end of the season, their percentages remained pretty much the same and or improved!!

    Unfortunately, you can't say the same for CJ. Which shows a lack of improvement. More time + same level of poor shooting percentage= the door. You can't be one of the worst shooters in the league and still pull down 4 million can you?

    The Jazz thought they were getting 40 percent on 3's from Bell but didn't happen. We don't need more chuckers, we need shooters and better shot selection. CJ is a nice kid, sorry it didn't work out.

  • Anonigma Murray, UT
    April 14, 2011 3:25 p.m.

    OK, I'm like 80% sure that O'Connor will get rid of CJ. It'll be a heartless, business decision, but if anyone can get fire players in this organization, it's O Connor. I hope CJ gets one more year, but not likely.

    Reason I say this is because Hayward has shown so much improvement in 10 months that CJ has absolutely no excuse to be 6 years in this league and still be making the awful decisions he does. It's either a laziness thing or he

    Heck, you can see Hayward's work over CJ's. Hayward looks like he's in much much better shape than CJ. I remember when Hayward was drafted he looked really weak. Conditioning alone shows you the contrast in their work ethics.

  • BillM75 Salt Lake City, UT
    April 14, 2011 3:12 p.m.

    CJ will be back, still very young & athletic and his expiring contract is reasonable and he'd be a good trade chip if nothing else. Someone must tell him he's not Ray Allen, and he must work with a coach did get a consistent stroke down.

    No way in the world the Jazz cut Evans. He's Hayward's BFF and 2nd round picks that can provide anything (which he can) are gold due to their cheap cap number.

  • mulrich Provo, UT
    April 14, 2011 3:07 p.m.

    CJ at the right price would be great on the team. I don't think that price is much over 4M/year though.

    CJ improved a lot over the off season and then got hurt and regressed (maybe this was two years ago). He has potential he just needs someone that pushes him to play hard consistently or he needs to only play 15-20 minutes per game.

    I'm still hoping we bring AK back (for the right price). His value is probably 6-8M/year. I would start him at the 3 and have CJ/Hayword at the 2 and backing up at the 3.

    I'm crossing my fingers that Barnes decides to go pro and that he's still available when we draft. Not many other wing options out there.

    And how about an update from DN and Jody about Ante Tomic. It's about time he comes to Utah.

  • T-Roy Summerville, SC
    April 14, 2011 2:57 p.m.


    Last year the Wizards had a worse shot then 7.6% and they still won, So In the real world you never know until it happens.

  • King Black Paso Robles, CA
    April 14, 2011 2:37 p.m.

    I want Utah to keep CJ Miles I talk about him a lot but ever since he has been in the NBA he was the guy I was hoping to be a top 10 scorer in the NBA he still can be if he tries hard plus I like using him on NBA 2k.

  • King Black Paso Robles, CA
    April 14, 2011 2:30 p.m.

    @ CJ Miles

    Why is that you say Sloan never played CJ or never gave him a chance or never tried to develop him or never gave him advice when just a couple of weeks ago when CJ had his 40 pt game.. and CJ said this himself.. he said: "Sloan tried to drill it in my head to take it to the hole to play more aggressive play hard D, but I never listened" now thats not what word for word of what he said but its pretty darn close. Looks to me that CJ has no excuse but I wish they keep him. O and for more advice once again Sloan started CJ is second season for a couple of games but then CJ Miles got his starting position taken later by a rookie named Ronnie Brewer this happened plenty of times with miles he Starts but then looses his starting role due to inconsistency and not listening to coach.

  • JazzFanMontana Hamilton, MT
    April 14, 2011 2:13 p.m.


    If you read T-Roy's post concerning the draft again, you will see that he said, "If by some miracle we get one or 2 pick" meaning 1st or 2nd pick in the draft. If we get the number 1 pick, we should take Irving but if we get the 2nd pick we should take Williams. He did not mean with our second pick we should take Williams. I am pretty sure he knows those 2 players will be picked 1 and 2. He is simply stating he would rather have Irving with the first pick rather than Williams for the Jazz.

    Also, T-Roy is right, you never know what can happen, that's why its called the lottery. Chicago won the lottery to get Rose and they only had like 1.7% chance. You just never know. It's like the quote from Dumb and Dumber when Mary says to Loyd that they have about a 1 in a Million chance of ending up together and Loyd says "So your telling me I have a chance..." That's what fans do, we hope. Don't ever loose hope.

  • sportsfan2k10 Cottonwood Heights, UT
    April 14, 2011 2:11 p.m.

    2011-2012 Depth Chart

    PG- Devin Harris, Earl Watson, 2nd Lottery Pick
    SG- Gordon Hayward, Raja Bell
    SF- C.J. Miles, 1st Lottery Pick, Jeremy Evans
    PF- Derrick Favors, Paul Millsap
    C- Al Jefferson, Mehmet Okur

    Let the free agents (Price, Fesenko, Kirilenko and Elson) go! Our biggest concern is SF. Don't try to plug it with Millsap. Let Favors (bigger and better defensively) start and let Millsap shine as the best 6th man in the league over Lamar Odom. C.J. has shown good things this year so keep him and let him compete hard with our first pick in the draft (hopefully Harrison Barnes). We are solid at both the 2 and 5 positions with Hayward and Big Al being backed up by veterans Raja and Okur (who will be trying to prove himself in a contract year). So our next biggest area of concern is a true back up point guard that can eventually take Harris' place. I like Earl but I think we can do better. I would go for either Kemba Walker or Brandon Knight if they are available, but if not, I say we take a chance on the Jimmer!

    Go Jazz!!!

  • Ted's of Beverly Hills Las Vegas, Nevada
    April 14, 2011 1:57 p.m.

    CJ said he is confident, after his exit interview that he will be back with the Jazz next year.

  • JazzFanMontana Hamilton, MT
    April 14, 2011 1:56 p.m.

    @CJ Miles

    I love CJ but the big difference between CJ and Hayward is the basketball IQ. Hayward simply has a much better understanding of the game of basketball and how to create for others. He already makes fewer mistakes that CJ. CJ jacks up to many ill advised shots and forces shots. CJ is more athletic and has more potential but because he is a little bit of a head case, he can't stay consistent.


    What makes you think CJ will join Williams in NJ? CJ said he hopes the Jazz pick up his option which I'm sure they will do, plus he stated he would love to stay long term (something Williams never said) if a fair contract was offered. Based on what I have seen, he is worth about 4-6 million per year and I believe CJ will be back with the Jazz next year and likely for more. Also as CJ Miles said, I think CJ has improved quite a bit each year. He's become much stronger and he finishes around the basket better now than ever before plus as CJ Miles said, he is a much better rebounder.

  • JBQ Saint Louis, MO
    April 14, 2011 1:55 p.m.

    Go Jazz! "Hope springs eternal within the human breast".

  • CocoNutzz Salt Lake City, UT
    April 14, 2011 1:23 p.m.

    @Cj Miles

    I dont know if CJ will be coming back. It looks like he might join Deron in New Jersey.

  • SnipeHookyoFace Farmington, UT
    April 14, 2011 1:16 p.m.

    T-Roy, keep living in that dream world of yours with that 7% chance of winning the lottery. Keep recommending your own comments too...

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    April 14, 2011 12:54 p.m.

    Coco........YOu read me wrong. I think Hayward making 3's is a great thing. If you actually paid attention to CJ over the past three years, he has improved every year. He is better than last year and a much improved scorer and defender. His rebounds were way up this year.

    CJ will be back.

    Also you forget that CJ's rookie year he put up 20 on the last night and everyone was so high on him since Jerry had never played him.

    With Jerry gone, CJ will improve even more next year.

  • CocoNutzz Salt Lake City, UT
    April 14, 2011 12:29 p.m.

    @CJ Miles

    What last nights tell is that Hayward CAN hit 3's at a consistent basis. Since Feb 1st he has been the #1 3 point shooter. While your boy CJ, who you say is going to be improved come next season...? Havent we been hearing this for the last 3 years. Every year CJ would say that he wants to be the MIP, but yet fails every year. I want CJ back because his option is relatively cheap for a 5 year SG vet for much needed depth in the 2 and 3 spots. Until Cj can come in and improve (not like this season where he REGRESSED in his shooting percentages) Than it will be something you can hang your hat on

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    April 14, 2011 11:33 a.m.

    Last nights game tell very little except that Hayward was making three pointers. Earlier in the season, that shot was not there for him.

    Still not too sure if we have the right horses for next year?

    Players that should be better next year for the Jazz......Favors, Harris, Hayward, CJ, AJ

    Players who have peaked.......Millsap, Watson

    Players who will be worse....Memo, AK, Bell

    Players who will be gone.....Evans, Fes

  • Johnson72 Salt Lake City, UT
    April 14, 2011 11:24 a.m.

    I guess the only place the Jazz are going to Go now is to Go clean out there lockers!

  • T-Roy Summerville, SC
    April 14, 2011 11:01 a.m.

    SnipeHookyoFace It depends on how the lottery pans out. The jazz are not stuck with the 6 th pick or the 12th pick it depends on the ping pong balls. Also U dont know what a lottery is you do not have it in Utah. :)

  • Navajo Hogan Salt Lake City, UT
    April 14, 2011 10:48 a.m.

    Lets go Real Salt Lake!!

  • JazzFanMontana Hamilton, MT
    April 14, 2011 9:56 a.m.

    I'm so bummed that the season's over. I just started to feel that Ty Corbin and the Jazz were figuring things out with their lineups and how to play together better. Hayward and Favors were gaining confidence and the Jazz started winning. The future looks very bright and I am so excited for next season! We have amazing key players, some money to spend and 2 first round draft picks. If KOC plays the rest of his cards right, we could compete for a championship very soon.

    The starting lineup of Jefferson, Favors, Millsap, Hayward and Harris is very strong. The bench will be much deeper than they were this year with Okur, Evans, possibly Kirilenko and/or a draft pick, CJ Miles, a draft pick and/or Watson plus a little bit of depth with Bell and Fez.

    That would give the Jazz 2 one time all stars in Okur and Kirilenko (if he comes back at the right price) off the bench plus CJ who can light it up on any given night and 2 draft picks and Watson. Plus Hayward and Favors should come back even better next year. Go Jazz

  • SnipeHookyoFace Farmington, UT
    April 14, 2011 9:56 a.m.

    Wow! I can tell T-Roy doesn't watch much basketball. Williams with our 2nd pick??? He'll be gone by the time the Jazz use their 1st pick.

  • T-Roy Summerville, SC
    April 14, 2011 9:29 a.m.

    Here is what the jazz need depending on what pick they end up with, using the nets pick if by some miricle we get one or 2 pick I would take irving with the 1st pick in the draft if it is the 2nd pick in the draft I would go williams from AZ as far as the Jazz, as much as I like Jimmer here in SEC country I would rather take knight from KY if he is there.

  • mulrich Provo, UT
    April 14, 2011 8:04 a.m.

    I was happy for last nights win but the more I think about the less encouraging it is. We had our five best players for next year on the court most of the game (Harris, Hayward, Milsap, Favors, and Jefferson for 187 combined minutes) whereas Denver had 1.5 (Chandler and a few minutes of Lawson for 55 combined minutes). Denver had already locked up the 5-seed and obviously didn't care about the game (Coach Karl barely even watched the game and the rest of their team didn't bother making the trip) whereas we had everything to play for to end the season on a win and with a winning home record. Denver started Koufos for goodness sake and we still trailed by 4 with two minutes to play and barely won by 4 (with Denver not even trying to shoot the last two minutes). Good game by the Jazz and Hayward shot really well, but I chalk this one up to the Nuggets and Coach Karl giving us a freebee.

  • Pipes Salt Lake City, UT
    April 14, 2011 7:49 a.m.

    Regardless of all the ups and downs this season, I love the Jazz! Good luck in the off season!

  • Hugh G. Hater SLC, UT
    April 14, 2011 7:47 a.m.

    To bad Hayward didn't get more playing time earlier in the year at the 2 spot.

  • Doctor J Manti, UT
    April 14, 2011 7:35 a.m.

    Haywood and Favors!

    They are the best thing to happen for the Jazz since Stockton and Malone!

    If you don't believe this...JUST WAIT and SEE for yourself!

  • Doctor J Manti, UT
    April 14, 2011 7:29 a.m.

    The future is very bright for the Jazz.
    Haywood and Favors are legit NBA starters...big time players.
    I can hardly beleive that we we these two young studs.
    Gordon reminds me a little bit of Reggie Miller...he is not as pure of a shooter but he is awesome off the dribble. He is very good at dring to the hole...he can dish or finish. He rebounds and defends. He has the tools to become an (almost) all-star calibre player. Favors will be one the best big men in the the league. It freaks me out that we have him. It is almost like getting Akeem, David Robinson or Tim Duncan...notice I said almost...But I
    really think Favors will be marvelous.

    These two cornerstones, along with Big Al and the Jazz should be great..with just a few key peices added.

    I love Earl Watson & Jeremy Evans coming off the bench. Milsap can be a great Role player as well.

    With th edraft picks..if used well...Jazz we be a major concern for 10+ years to come.

  • byronbca Salt Lake City, UT
    April 14, 2011 1:38 a.m.

    The thing that gets me most excited about next year was the defensive play of Favors, Hayward and AJ this year. Favors can be a defensive star in this league, he is the mythical "shot blocking big man" Jazz fans have been hoping for since Eaton retired.

    Hayward has the height, athleticism, and desire to be a legit defensive presence also. AJ was a horrible defender in Minnesota, but he showed serious improvement with the Jazz and I think by next year he might actually be good at it. 1.8 blocks per game this year is a good start.

    Defense is what killed the Jazz over the last 6 years but we finally have the pieces in place to turn it around.

  • B Russ Ephraim, UT
    April 14, 2011 12:04 a.m.

    Hayward has responded rather well since the dodge ball game with D Will. His defensive talents alone will keep in this league for years to come. Not to mention his shooting and point guard skills. He can obviously play. I believe that KOC did a good job also on the D Will trade with Favors as a real big with awesome athetisism. Devin Harris is very talented as well if he can become more familiar with the guys and become more of a distributor. The future looks brite to me. Oh and the draft picks. The Jersey pick, if we can't get Williams or Barnes, use it in a trade for a good 3. With our own pick snag Jimmer to spread the floor and open up the middle. Go Jazz!

  • JFFR Salt Lake City, UT
    April 13, 2011 11:57 p.m.

    Jazz fans rejoice. Kirilenko's contract is FINALLY OVER!!!!!

  • myself Salt Lake City, UT
    April 13, 2011 11:43 p.m.

    Go Real Salt Lake!
    That's 2 teams from Denver that got whooped last night.

  • scalman Temecula, CA
    April 13, 2011 10:53 p.m.

    The Jazz need to pick up a guard with their first draft choice or move up some with their second one. If they go big with the first pick, the three or four best guards will be gone by the time the Jazz pick next. I think their front line is coming together. Would like to see a Kevin McHale-type power forward work with Favors and Fes. Jefferson has some of the moves McHale had, but McHale did more. Malone couldn't dunk like McHale, Favors and Fes can, unless he got a good head of steam going on the fast break he would get stuffed and/or maybe get foul shots. Some of the people Hayward played against recently were not first stringers, but some were, and he is sure looking good and shooting great. Enjoy your off season, Jazzmen!

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    April 13, 2011 10:39 p.m.

    Love Haywards game, he is fun to watch, he plays smart and controlled. His shots are within the system and he doesn't jack up shots just to be shooting.
    CJ could learn from Hayward. Hayward also plays good D, passes well and rebounds well, he's going to be a fine player for many years.
    Favors has alot of work to do but he has alot of potential, hope he puts in the work necessary to get stronger and improve his skills.
    Wish some how Malone could start working with Favors.
    The draft should be interesting and fun and even free agency should be interesting with the Jazz having some money to work with. AK's contract coming off the books opens up possibilities.

  • AwesomeSauce93 Salt Lake City, Ut
    April 13, 2011 10:01 p.m.

    I know that the Jazz are in for a few down years, but future looks pretty okay. For starters before they got Deron the team was a bunch of make shift players and an injured Carlos Boozer. Now they have a nice starting point, with some picks, Two of last years top 10 picks in Hayward and Favors. Not to mention a few large contracts coming off the books in the next few years. I think they,ll be fine.

    Fun game to watch tonight. Gordon has really seemed to come into his own towards the end of this season. Love how hard he works. Favors as well.

    Hopefully the Jazz have a nice draft. Looking forward to next year, (pending lockout of course) But either way

    GO JAZZ! :D

  • CocoNutzz Salt Lake City, UT
    April 13, 2011 9:44 p.m.

    How about the Kid. Hayward was Ballin today. Sad to see the season end, especially with the rooks showing promise, along with the rest of the team.

    Come back stronger and better next season so we can make a run for the playoffs.

  • 79Ute Orange County, CA
    April 13, 2011 9:39 p.m.

    The Jazz need real leadership - both in the locker room and in the floor. DWill was a strong personality, but apparently not a strong leader. His hard pass to Hayward when GH was out of position showed that he was just one example of a polarizing figure on the team (as great and as exciting as he was as an individual player).

    No one on the roster now has that same strong personality. They're a bunch of nice guys, but someone needs to step out of the crowd and be the leader. Bell is the most senior guy on the team, but can he be the catalyst to help the players become a cohesive team? Millsap is the strong silent type, which is great for a supporting role but he won't be the leader. Jefferson? It probably isn't fair to judge him based on this year.

    I'd like to see them fill the vacant coaching seat with Karl Malone. He can help toughen up the troops while the entire staff tries to teach some leadership skills to a couple of guys and basketball fundamentals to all of them, which will lead to consistent play.

  • ImaUteFan West Jordan, UT
    April 13, 2011 9:36 p.m.

    As bad as the season was, at least this team showed some promise and got some nice wins at the end.

    The draft and off-season will be interesting.

    Only thing to do now is cheer for whoever is playing the Lakers in the playoffs.

  • mick.mcgirr Arlington, VA
    April 13, 2011 9:31 p.m.

    @crj-- It's just not going to happen with CJ. That's what Jazz fans have been saying the last three off-seasons: What if CJ stopped eating cheeseburgers? What if CJ hit the weights? What if he finally realizes his potential? Unfortunately, I just don't think it's going to happen. But, I definitely agree that Hayward will be legit and I'm excited to see how his off-season work pays off-- he and favors both.

  • grj Bountiful, ut
    April 13, 2011 9:00 p.m.

    What if CJ can hit the weights through the summer, work on getting some consistency to his game, and get that killer look in his eyes that All-Stars have at crunch time? What if both CJ and Hayward showed up every game next year like Kobe does, like Hayward did tonight? Can you imagine how much fun it would be in the middle for Milsap, Big Al and DFav if the Jazz constantly had shooting threats hanging around the perimeter?

    Or am I overreacting to the season-ending 2-game win streak?

    Anxious for next year.

  • Motappin Sandy, UT
    April 13, 2011 8:47 p.m.

    Hayward is legit.

  • Kakashi Tokyo, Japan
    April 13, 2011 8:43 p.m.

    if Hayward can perform like this day in and day out...that would be awesome...

  • goodDr. sandy, UT
    April 13, 2011 8:36 p.m.

    CJ, it was nice having you. We now have a 2 who can score and play defense. If you would like, we have a nice position for you coming off the bench.

  • WyattInDenver Wheat Ridge, Colorado
    April 13, 2011 8:23 p.m.

    Hayward did awesome! glad the jazz drafted him afterall, hope they are just as smart with the picks this year. NICE WIN UTAH! thanks for the effort, look forward to seeing you next year!