Arizona immigration: Both sides vowing to push forward

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  • anti-liar Salt Lake City, UT
    April 17, 2011 4:25 p.m.

    @Roman K
    "Also, do you really think that rational people would choose to cross arid deserts, endangering their lives to the criminals on both sides of the border if they weren't completely desperate?"

    Bank robbers do a similar thing for a similar reason. Why don't we give them a pass too.

  • Trooper55 Williams, AZ
    April 14, 2011 7:30 a.m.

    It's high time that that the illegals learn that breaking the law and then getting free pass are over with. I am tried of seeing my tax dollars going to support the illegals, because they claim they have rights. If you are here illegally lets send them back to their countries and make them come here the right way.

  • StokeyBob Fremont, CA
    April 13, 2011 8:28 p.m.

    I wish Arizona all the luck but I'm afraid the deck is stacked against law, order, and freedom.

    When I started looking into where the money was coming from to buy off the politicians and subvert the immigration laws of the world, I came across what may be the root of many of our problems. Fiat Money.

    No matter how much real money people can put together to build their countries the way they want there are those that can print up what ever it takes to get their way.

    April 13, 2011 7:23 p.m.

    @Roman K, when the majority of people who come here illegally are of one ethnic group, and the legal immigration favors one ethnic group, that's racist. It's hurting all other ethnic groups and people that want to come here.

    If you were pulled over, what ID would you give the officer, a Russian drivers license? Your actions would determine his.

    When the majority of people breaking a law is from one ethnic group, and they clame we are racist for enforcing our laws, is it a valid complaint?

  • Hunt Spanish Fork, UT
    April 13, 2011 6:51 p.m.

    @Roman k

    Do the search and you'll find out. I am very well read on the subject and the dnews bias has been and is blatent.

  • JayTee Sandy, UT
    April 13, 2011 6:48 p.m.

    SB 116 serves the people of Utah well in one respect: It serves as a litmus test to reveal exactly who is really representing them on Capitol Hill. It's the most accurate indicator I've seen to separate the smooth talkers from those who really care about the taxpayers, workers, and actual citizens of the state. Check out that record, and get behind those who have the courage to stand up to the invasion that threatens to mess up our entire society--just as it is doing right now.

  • Jazz Bass Man Wellsville, Utah
    April 13, 2011 4:27 p.m.

    The deseret news, like the rest of the mainstream liberal media, is a disingenuous propaganda machine in how they've spun the issue of the Utah compact. They try and try to make us all believe that Utahns REALLY DO WANT AMNESTY for illegals. Obviously the LDS church supports the amnesty guest worker program, but that doesn't mean that the people support it. I don't know of anyone - LDS or non LDS - that wants to give amnesty to the millions of illegals that are here.

    Apparently the only recourse we have left is to vote out the corrupt bums in office who refuse to listen to the will of the people.

  • Pancho3rd Modesto, CA
    April 13, 2011 2:18 p.m.

    The mexican mantra

    Por La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada For the race everything, outside the race nothing

    All of the laws should be enforced equally, regardless of race, religion, and/or national origin. That is with the exception of mexicans, and they should be above the law and exempt from the law. And the only purpose that a tonto gringo serves is to pay taxes to support the superior and noble mexican.

    Anyone who disagrees with this philosophy is Xenophobic and a Racist.


    All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
    George Orwell, Animal Farm, ch.10, 1945

  • Viva la Migra American Fork, UT
    April 13, 2011 11:35 a.m.

    Conservatives, even in Utah, are adamantly opposed to the notion of providing amnesty to illegal aliens and their employers. The political elite, business groups and others have come together in Utah to ram this through, but they will see in the next election how well it's supported.

    It's unlikely that this will get very far in other conservative states, since they don't have the unique mix of forces involved in Utah politics.

    It's also ironic that some are applauding the Federal government from striking down the Arizona law because it infringes on the Fed power, yet in some ways the Utah law is worse, since it creates a program not defined/controller by the Federal government and the Arizona law only attempts to enforce existing Federal laws at the state level.

  • azresident Mesa, AZ
    April 13, 2011 11:03 a.m.

    Roman--"...better future for your children" May I add, at the expense of American taxpayers. At the expense of public education, educators and the education of children everywhere. Look at the scores of schools and districts which have been inundated by illegals. At the expense of the medical professionals, hospitals, and clinics, which do close and/or relocate due to the nonpayment for services received by the illegals. At the expense of the poor, elderly, and children who are legal citizens and in need of various social services, which are being drained as they meet the needs of the illegals. The costs go on and on.

    Can the United States afford to meet the needs of illegals across the globe?

    As you may know, there are various church, civic, entertainer, and corporate groups making a wonderful difference in the lives of people throughout third world countries. What needs to happen is for more of these groups to step up and make an even greater effort--particularly those with the funds to do so.

    The average taxpayer simply cannot afford it, especially at the expense of their own family.

  • Roman K SLC, Utah
    April 13, 2011 10:18 a.m.

    I'm a white, tall, man from Russia. I've been in the states for 10+ yrs, first school, and now I'm working. If I'm well rested and concentrate, I can speak without accent. If I sped through AZ, would they ask for my immigration papers? Remember, you don't need to be brown to be an immigrant, or illegal.

    Also, do you really think that rational people would choose to cross arid deserts, endangering their lives to the criminals on both sides of the border if they weren't completely desperate? What would you do, and how far would you go to ascertain even a chance of better future for your children? Granted, the illegals didn't deserve any privileges by crossing the border, but they certainly deserve our compassion.

    No man is an island, no country either. Except, maybe, New Zealand.

    Before calling DN reporters and editors nuts and cogs in a lying propaganda machine check your facts! What have they purposefully misrepresented?

  • Third try screen name Mapleton, UT
    April 13, 2011 10:16 a.m.

    Read carefully...
    President Monsons closing remarks, October 2008 Conference:
    May we be good citizens of the nations in which we live and good neighbors in our communities, reaching out to those of other faiths, as well as to our own. May we be men and women of honesty and integrity in everything we do.

    President Monsons closing remarks, April 2011 Conference:
    May we be good citizens of the nations in which we live and good neighbors in our communities, reaching out to those of other faiths as well as to those of our own. May we be examples of honesty and integrity wherever we go and in whatever we do.

  • TRUTH Salt Lake City, UT
    April 13, 2011 10:13 a.m.

    Facts are facts and The Utah Compact is nothing more than "Mexican Slavery".....

    The Chamber of Commerce is only concerned with cheap labor and the reduced labor cost for US Companies(compassion is a smoke screen)....Why relocate your company to the third world when the third world can come to you? Slavery is alive and well again in Utah!

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    April 13, 2011 10:11 a.m.

    This is pathetic. Our federal government left the door open for the last 15 years and now they want to punish a state trying to protect itself from the end result of their inaction.
    To make matters worse, elites from congress, the media (yes, that means you, DN), churches, unions and the Chamber of Commerce are stepping up to the microphone IN SUPPORT of the trespassers.
    The whole thing is totally absurd.

  • Fitness Freak Salt Lake City, UT
    April 13, 2011 9:46 a.m.

    The Utah compact and the resulting HB116 are totally useless, (even if, by some stretch of the imagination), they are not thrown out by the courts.

    What do amnesty advocates plan to tell the millions of LEGAL immigrants who are paying thousands of $$$ to become legal in the legitimate sense of the word?

    The legislation is racist on its face, because it makes no provisions for any other nationality to arrive and stay here other than those who sneak across the desert from Mexico.
    Why in the world would any of the illegals sign up for it in the first place? They pretty much have a "free ride" without it! Immigration enforcement has pretty much been only a DREAM that actual citizens hope for anyway.

    Should we just eliminate our borders altogether just because the feds WON'T DO their job?

    HB116 isn't worth the paper its written on and WILL be repealed.

    The legislators who forced this on Utah citizens will be most likely be voted out of office.

  • the cost of freedom salt lake city, ut
    April 13, 2011 9:11 a.m.

    this thing was planned , tyson chicken, packing plants in the midwest with anyone challenging them the representives shut em down. Its all documented and the corporations never got taxed one bit now we got americans going to the back of the line, near a depression state , gas goin up there's to many of us crying yet no one hears us!

    April 13, 2011 4:20 a.m.

    The use of the doublespeak "pro-immigration" needs to come to an end. They are not campaigning for people to come here legally, but are pushing amnesty for 12-20 million who broke our immigration laws, and those that helped and encouraged it.

    Like Utah, it's not the states that are adopting it, but a small group of people in each state. Less than .0015% of Utah residents signed it.

  • Hunt Spanish Fork, UT
    April 13, 2011 2:35 a.m.

    The Deseret News should be ashamed of itself for purposefully misrepresenting the truth about illegal immigration. Instead of honest journalism, the Deseret News has become a propaganda machine in its promotion of the Utah Compact and HB116. Regardless of it's efforts, the truth is out there and doesn't take too many clicks of the mouse to find it. I would suggest doing a search on HB116 and the word "repeal" if you are interested in the truth.

  • TRUTH Salt Lake City, UT
    April 12, 2011 5:55 p.m.

    Utah Compact = AMNESTY!!!

    How can that be?

    Yeppers.....the entire illegal movement has adopted the Utah Compact as a model for AMNESTY.......

    Good job Herbert and Shirtleff...soon the entire state will be over-run with measled illegals

  • azresident Mesa, AZ
    April 12, 2011 5:02 p.m.

    So, advocates for undocumented immigrants are pushing to make the Utah Compact a national model. Now there's something to think about.