Government shutdown will have an impact, but it's not the end of the world

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  • 1Infidel APO, AE
    April 11, 2011 8:19 a.m.

    As has been often reported in the press, the Obama administration lives and breathes with making hay over media-stirred disasters. This is another example of nothing being flamed by the press - kind of like last years ecological disaster of the century in the Gulf....the only disaster to come of it is Obama's moratorium on drilling, killing lots of jobs, a direct attack on our national security, leases and loans to the Chinese, Cubans and Brazilians to drill anyway, and Chairman O's determination to take us back to the stone age with the strangling of the energy industry.

    And, personnel in the military unit I am embedded with in Afghanistan have been informed by DFAS, their pay branch, to expect half pay on the 15th, due to the Democrats refusal to make serious cuts in working towards a budget. The GOP has already halved their budget cutting proposals, but the Dems still sit there, with a few old hat GOP types sitting on their hands.

  • MacMama Sandy, UT
    April 7, 2011 4:12 p.m.

    Democrats had their chance to pass a budget which actually was due long before the November elections and refused to do it! Now they blame the Republicans for not getting one passed? They've been practicing their spin on this for several weeks to blame the GOP so of course they aren't in any hurry to get this passed! The House has already passed a budget- the problem is Harry Reid and the Democrat controlled Senate. And the proposed cuts aren't really actual cuts in spending- they are just just to the proposed INCREASES of spending. Another good reason for enacting term limits for Washington DC- so they could actually go in and do the work of the people instead of being beholden to special interest groups! The cuts need to be made- we can't keep spending money that we don't have!

  • Chad S Derby, KS
    April 7, 2011 12:07 p.m.

    @Pagan, yeah, you're probably right...we should continue to fund every piece of legislation that some congressperson feels like putting out there. Makes me wonder how we ever accomplished anything in this country without federal funding for it. You want to be all things to all people at any cost--I say that is not the government's role. This is the great division. It's not about if NPR should be federally funded specifically. Sure, lunches for needy children is probably a great program--but is it the federal government's responsibility. No.

    This government has grown too large, employs too many, costs too much to operate efficiently, and is too self-interested to serve WE THE PEOPLE who give this government its power.

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    April 7, 2011 11:11 a.m.

    'Government shutdown will have an impact, but it's not the end of the world' - Title

    So, even admited in the title, a shutdown WILL do something...

    but it 'wont' be that bad.'

    I don't think the DSNews is a mouthpeice for the GOP.

    But it does contradict itself.

    *'Memories of 1995 haunt GOP as shutdown talk grows' - By Charles Babington - AP - Published by DSNews - 02/20/11

    WASHINGTON Few memories haunt Republicans more deeply than the 1995-96 partial shutdown of the federal government, which helped President Bill Clinton reverse his falling fortunes and recast House Republicans as stubborn partisans, not savvy insurgents.

    What do yu think will happen when the goverment shuts down? People will ask 'who is responsible?'

    And, who voted against....

    Insurance for 9/11 1st responders
    Lunches for needy children
    Tax cuts for the middle class
    Serving in the military
    Transparency (HB477)

    The Republican party.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    April 7, 2011 10:03 a.m.

    10CC | 6:09 p.m.

    Nobody's suggesting shutting down FAA or ANY essential services.

    Quit being so over-dramatic.... it's people like you... with your mis-representations of what's actually going on that makes SOME people think it would actually be the END of the world... if these NON-Essential services were shutdown temporarily while we decide how/IF we are going to fund them.


    It's NOT the end-of-the-world. They AREN'T going to shutdown the FAA or send the air traffic controllers on vacation!


    The NRC is also already on the list of agencies that would be completely unaffected by the shutdown.


    Please get informed, the list of agencies that are (and have been for years) on the list of agencies that would NOT shutdown is out there for all to read. The FAA and NRC are on it.

    So you don't have to worry... or get OTHERS worried about this red-herring.

    Oh... the EPA is also on the list.

    Did you MISS anything??? Did you HIT anything... would be the better question!

    ZERO_OF_THE_THREE you mentioned are even on the list of agencies affected by government shutdowns!

  • tinahons Trenton, UT
    April 7, 2011 7:00 a.m.

    If there is a shutdown, it WILL affect the economy of this state. Or have you all forgotten that HAFB is the largest employer in the state? And Rifleman: Those of us who work at HAFB do not think you are funny...We lose about 50% of our income before we even get paid due to taxes, SS, insurance...The average wage at Hill is around 50,000. NOT the extravagant wages of our Congress, Senate, etc...

  • My2Cents Kearns, UT
    April 7, 2011 5:03 a.m.

    We have to remember now that Obama is the Master and Chief of the Military of the US and he has plenty of time to start and incite these riotous reports to create and aura of fear among military ranks. It is all an Obama lie, the regular army does have stop gaps in place that insures its military personnel do get paid unless Obama has interfered in that already present law.

    Obama is reaching across the country behind all the legal channels and inciting and reporting false information through his network of government controlled news media. Most government workers already know this and retroactive pay is paid if they are an essential service for government to operate. Those who have saved leave will still get paid on those terms so what is being portrayed as an economic disaster is only in the eyes of the spend thrift democrats.

    We have got to have a budget and if the Democrats choose not to comply then it is on their heads that the economy now and in the future is at stake.

  • johhen Salt Lake City, UT
    April 7, 2011 3:59 a.m.

    Some of these comments illustrate how broken our political process is. How about a thoughtful discussion, instead of ranting?

    No, it won't be the end of the world. However, it will affect people and possibly the economy. Interesting that Congress still gets paid when the government shuts down.

  • rvalens2 Burley, ID
    April 7, 2011 3:13 a.m.

    I vote we shut down the government and start over.

  • AT Prospect, KY
    April 6, 2011 10:35 p.m.

    Shut 'er down. Start by: bringing the troops home, closing the 200 some odd bases all over the world - OK - all of them, shut down the Dept. of Education. I could keep going. You could add your own list as well. Shut 'em down. This logjam shows us really how much the Democrats and Republicans really are the same party. What, they're arguing over the difference of $30B and $60B? (I know not the exact number, keep with me) Are you kidding me? We need to be arguing over the difference between $500B and $1T.

  • thelogicalone salt lake city, UT
    April 6, 2011 9:03 p.m.

    This happens too often and we survive.

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    April 6, 2011 7:52 p.m.

    Re: Esquire | 7:45 p.m. April 6, 2011

    I didn't hear the liberals complaining when the Democratic legislators in Wisconsin fled the state and thus holding their budget hostage.

    Just how serious are Obama and the Democrats when it comes to not only putting a cap on our debt but actually paying it off?

    Think how much more money we could put into education if we weren't paying staggering interest on our obscene national debt.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    April 6, 2011 7:45 p.m.

    Is this an opinion piece? Down playing the shutdown? Appalling. The paper must be a mouthpiece for the GOP.

  • no fit in SG St.George, Utah
    April 6, 2011 7:40 p.m.

    Oh, oh..........

    In the photo, the Speaker appears that he is about to cry. Wonder if they are tears of joy, or tears of frustration?

  • 10CC Bountiful, UT
    April 6, 2011 6:09 p.m.


    I'm with you, brother. Let's shut down the FAA, send the air traffic controllers on vacation! Yeah, maybe there would be a collision or two, but people have to realize life has risks. Like Rand Paul said last year about the coal mine disaster that killed all those miners, "people just need to understand that sometimes accidents happen". It's certainly no reason to have safety regulations.

    Nuclear Regulatory Commission? Those guys just get in the way of good old businessness men who could give us all the electricity we would ever want for $10 a month. Get rid of the NRC! We'll never have an earthquake here like they had in Japan, the NRC is just trying to destroy our economy.

    Wouldn't it be great if the EPA was eliminated? A lot of businesses would make more money, no pesky clean air regulations to follow. We could start using unleaded gasoline again! (That was the first assault against freedom, in the early 70s. There is no air pollution, it's enviro-wacko mythology.)

    Anything I missed?

  • Utah Girl Vernal, UT
    April 6, 2011 6:06 p.m.

    If the Military doesn't get paid, then the President, all his aides, Senators, Congressmen, Supreme Court, anything Federal should not be paid, either. Planned Parenthood funding is not essential, either. I definitely agree with JNA at 5:40pm. All of the acronyms (IRS, etc. etc.) have outgrown themselves and could be run much more efficiently. The Federal Government has become an unwieldy and cumbersome entity.

  • libertarian Cedar City, UT
    April 6, 2011 5:53 p.m.

    The article stated that DHS and EPA were essential "services". Whaaaat?? We don't need permits from the EPA, they are the ones that need to SELL us permits for their enrichment. DHS is simply the "American Gestapo" that claims that law abiding Americans are the real terrorists. We need this? I think not! We need to get rid of these unconstitutional and abusive agencies and dozens more like them, TSA, FDA, BATF, IRS, etc, etc. The govt has become a self-multiplying and self-perpetuating monstrosity. Let it shut down.

  • JNA Layton, UT
    April 6, 2011 5:40 p.m.

    The President and the Congress are considered "essential personnel" you have got to be kidding me. If there are 537 people that should be cut it should be the Congress (535) and the President and Vice President (2). Politicians are about as non essential as they come.

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    April 6, 2011 5:37 p.m.

    No, the sky isn't falling. Obama will make sure, however, that it is as painful as possible. No paychecks for our military personnel? I'm guessing the phony baloney employees in federal government will be getting their checks.

    It will be a paid vacation for those who don't have to show up for work but will get paid as if they did later.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    April 6, 2011 5:18 p.m.

    We probably would have had a shutdown LAST YEAR if Congress was forced to deliver a budget (as required in the Constitution). But Congress hasn't delivered a budget since 2009! Many say they didn't deliver a budget to the President in 2010 because Democrats (who were the SUPER_Majority then) were concerned it would expose them in an election year... and cost them seats in Congress (Hint... even though the Media let them get away with it... and says NOTHING about it... they STILL lost 80 something seats in Congress)!

    Now that enough people in Congress want to follow the Constitution and deliver a budget to the President to be signed or veto it... maybe we Americans will know where we stand.

    These weekly-extensions of the no-budget budget have to stop soon. Even IF it means we have to shutdown NON_ESSENTIAL government functions while our representatives get serious about passing a budget for 2011.

    Something serious needs to be done. If it's a government shutdown... so be it. But they need to pass a budget or have consequences.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    April 6, 2011 4:53 p.m.

    It's happened NUMEROUS times in my lifetime. We had a government shutdown EVERY YEAR in the Carter Administration. I remember at least 2 during the Reagan Administration. We had at least one during the Clinton administration. It was a royal pain, but it wasn't the end of the world.

    I don't know why people are so convinced that it would be the end of the world THIS TIME...

    oh yah... Obama is President. ANYBODY who doesn't agree with the leader, or cooperate with him is a heretic, subject to being burned at the stake or committed to a re-education camp.