Frank Pignanelli & LaVarr Webb: Are Utah's GOP leaders now in jeopardy?

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  • Dewey Hewson Eagle Mountain, UT
    March 21, 2011 7:23 p.m.

    Is it just me, or do Webb's glasses have a distinctly red tint to them?

    The man couldn't criticize a Republican if his life depended on it. Apparently a legislative session which worked specifically toward many goals the vast majority of Utahns are absolutely opposed to is considered "successful".

    By that line of reasoning, I'd love just once to have an "unsuccessful" legislative session in this state.

  • no fit in SG St.George, Utah
    March 21, 2011 11:18 a.m.

    What is really scary, is that this eye opening moment would never had occurred if Herbert had not passed the bill.

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    March 21, 2011 10:31 a.m.

    Patriot Act, bill allows the search of your private property without warrent. Signed by George W. Bush, 2001.

    TSA, in the news recently about body searches, also created by George W. Bush and a Republican controlled congress in 2001.

    How does our local goverment respond to charges of a 'lack of transparency?'

    HB477, which factually prevents search of email & text messages.

    6 months after...

    *'E-mail raises new questions about influence of Herbert campaign contributions' - By John Daley and Lisa Riley Roche - Deseret News - 09/28/10

    Gov. Gary Herbert "should remember" that the construction company boss on his meeting schedule is a $50,000 first-time donor who wants to talk "about transportation construction and issues within the state."

    I can't speak for anyone but myself...

    but I fail to see any benifit to continuing to vote straight party.

    As, that party evidently see's this pattern in Utah...

    and uses it to abuse power, and ignore the demands of it's voters.

    Why support someone who holds themselves above you?

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    March 21, 2011 10:31 a.m.

    RanchHand | 6:39 a.m. March 21, 2011
    Huntsville, UT
    Are they in jeopardy? One could only hope. However, this being Utah, they're secure in their calling and election.


    Hahaha!! Agreed!

    The funny thing is, even Bishops and Stake Presidents are given "term limits".

    I guess you'd say they've placed elected Politicians [who they can select and vote for themselves] on par with life-long "General Authorities".

    This has all the makings of a recipe for disaster.

  • RanchHand Huntsville, UT
    March 21, 2011 6:39 a.m.

    Are they in jeopardy? One could only hope. However, this being Utah, they're secure in their calling and election.

  • John C. C. Payson, UT
    March 21, 2011 6:20 a.m.

    Yes, especially the right wing that has arrogated to itself the privilege of ignoring majority opinion of our citizens on issues where we are moderate or liberal.

  • Utah_1 Salt Lake City, UT
    March 20, 2011 8:38 p.m.

    I am looking for the articles listing the good things in HB 477. Since the current law needed to change (even according to those that have since bowed to media pressure), and the press has not provided public suggestions yet for a change, I am looking for "balanced" coverage of the bill that was signed into law.

    So far, all I see is the press being one sided in the coverage, which leaves the public without the information to properly decide. Since the legislature had sought input from the press for years, the recent media temper tantrum seems more like the press is just lobbying the public.

  • Howard Beal Provo, UT
    March 20, 2011 6:00 p.m.

    I think the vast majority of Utahns would like to see leaders closer to the middle of the political spectrum, not more extreme members of each party.

  • Bob Aagard holladay, ut
    March 20, 2011 5:07 p.m.

    Mr Webb would be shocked to find out that current (pre-HB477) GRAMA laws protected a person's privacy.

    He's so blind in he loyalty to the Legislature and the Governor that he ignores a poll in his own paper that shows 80% of the public want to sign the petition.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    March 20, 2011 4:13 p.m.


    RINOs will be looking for another job following the next election. They will be replaced by conservatives.

  • Anti Bush-Obama Washington DC, MD
    March 20, 2011 3:31 p.m.

    I would think they are in severe danger. Utah's legislature is about to become libertarian or constitutionalist. Definatley not democrat because that would be no change at all.

  • Richard Saunders Provo, UT
    March 20, 2011 2:10 p.m.

    "The reality is that the recent legislative session was extremely successful." Webb

    If ignoring the Constitution and making government less transparent are now the benchmark of 'success', then yes, this session had to be one of the best ever. Mr. Webb, the people gave the legislative session a 'C' and that was being generous. In most schools, C means average, not excellent or 'extremely successful.' Talk to someone outside the circle of 'power brokers' and 'community leaders' and you will see that the PEOPLE aren't thrilled about the session. The arrogance of the current version of the Republican party is sickening. Unfortunately, it's now 'ultra-right' to believe in the Constitution and an open government. Out of touch is the only phrase that comes to mind.

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    March 20, 2011 12:29 p.m.

    This was the worst ever session. Instead of two steps back and one forward, it was six back and one sideways to hide behind 477. Only benefit was for buddy systems special interests.

  • thewholetruth West Jordan, UT
    March 20, 2011 12:20 p.m.

    Thanks to the quick passage (HB477) antics of the Utah state Legislature, Utah government now surpasses the majority of other states to become the 'secretive' government. Instead of government by and of and for "we the people", it is now, 'by and for a FEW in the Government'. How ridiculous, braze- nous, and dangerous that in a day and age as ours, state legislators and Utah politico pundits in the public eye, would aspire to uphold the "best scenario" (Pignanelli's words) -- to remove from public eye and scrutiny any governmental transparency by removing from the wall, the public's right to the wall 'light-switch' that would keep the brightness of light burning in ALL 'hallowed' chambers of our government! Why, in a Republic form of government would any of us wish to grope for secretive or isolationistic government? Only the virulent, vermin and villian-esque thrive--in dark places and corners of 'non-transparency'. Such principles and antics will set the body politic of Utah back into the Dark Age standard! No man is, norno group within government are--an island

  • The Real Maverick Orem, UT
    March 20, 2011 10:59 a.m.

    Utahns are finally waking up.

    I predict a lot of repubs being sent back to REAL jobs this next election.

  • EJM Herriman, UT
    March 20, 2011 8:53 a.m.

    I find it funny that Mr. Webb calls out his fellow 4th Estate brethren at the Salt Lake Tribune for coming down hard on Governor Herbert. Isn't that what a newspaper is supposed to do? Point out the failings and the successes of our elected politicians? The Trib has praised the Governor on numerous occasions. By calling him out on HB477 it was fulfilling it's duty to it's readership and to the people of Utah. The last thing we need here in Utah is for either of the 2 major daily newspapers to become yes men for the two major political parties.

  • BYR Woods Cross, UT
    March 20, 2011 8:33 a.m.

    Are Utah's GOP leaders now in jeopardy? Yes. They all are.