Utah Jazz: C.J. Miles posts 40 points in win over Timberwolves

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  • Jazz Cop San Francisco, CA
    March 18, 2011 11:37 a.m.

    I'm still stoked on cj's career game, i hope it defines him, if he'sgoing to be counted on he's not going to be a great defensive player though, at least not right now. As long as they win I'm excited, it is his time and there is other young talent coming up behind him if he doesn't succeed as thesecond option, i'll rout for another one of the young athletic players because i don't get vocal about the veterans, they should know how they have to play every night.

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    March 18, 2011 9:54 a.m.

    amgolfer: I appreciate your comments and postive approach, keep it up. Your a year younger than my youngest boy, smile. Your right about the defense, and to me the Jazz's biggest problem is defense. CJ can still learn that total effort is what is needed and I think Corbin commented on CJ starting to learn he can't take possesions off, I hope he continues to learn that and becomes consistent. Defense is mostly effort, especially if you have the athletic ability. CJ doesn't have any excuss not to play good D, it's all in the effort.

  • amgolfer San Francisco, CA
    March 17, 2011 11:32 p.m.

    CJ I agree and it a huge part of the NBA, but D wins championships and you know this. If were are serious about winning the big dance we must play solid D partner. You mentioned Kobe and Artest--you are right but Kobe is all defense as well. Stellar as we all know. I've seen a crowd go as crazy on a huge block as a sweet dunk on offense. Like I said I agree with the "business" side of it all and a lot of fans do want to see someone light it up from beyond. But D has to be there. No one can name me a team that won it all that played poor defense. It just doesn't happen. It's exciting to see the players play both ends...CJ will only get better as I know he can develop/hone in on his defensive skills. Go Jazz.

    p.s. People don't play to see Bell play at all....lol. My boy Jimmer, well, he's special..........it remains to be seen how he develops on the next level; but we all know he can create and shoot lights out.

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    March 17, 2011 11:04 p.m.

    It is clear by most posts today that you don't understand how the NBA works. It is about making stars that sell merchandise and tickets. CJ is the type of player that people in Utah will pay to watch in the future. He has offensive skills. People don't buy tickets to watch Bell play defense. They want to watch players making shots and driving to the hoop for a dunk.

    I used to think that Jimmer couldn't make it in the NBA. Now I am a big believer because he can put on a show. He can score. That's what people want to see. They want to watch offensive. Not defense.

    People come to watch Kobe, not Artest.

  • amgolfer San Francisco, CA
    March 17, 2011 9:30 p.m.

    Hey Jazz Source--reread my post and I'm retracting my comment of using the word "ignorant fan." Simply, not cool. It seems you and I misread each others posts or were attacking this from a different perspective. It happens man. My bad. I know you are voicing your opinion and I respect that. I may not like it but it's your opinion. Hopefully no harm no foul. We clearly don't see eye to eye on CJ and his future. That's okay. I just hope he can be consistent and help the Jazz, no more. I want this team to move forward and be competitive night in and night out. We have all become accustomed to winning/playing hard nosed basketball. We are all faithful Jazz fans. Peace and go Jazz.

  • amgolfer San Francisco, CA
    March 17, 2011 9:23 p.m.

    I know a lot of people that put themselves in situations where they are forced to grow up at the age of 23-this I know and understand. I also know that many of us and others in the world are not as mature as we think at 23; I know I wasn't. I made some very stupid mistakes while at college at the ripe old age of 23. Now with that said I'm not making any excuses for CJ as he has conducted himself, at times, as subpar. Is that judgmental on my part? Yes. If CJ were 30, different story and I wouldn't be posting. I know a lot of us males were idiots at 23 and weren't making the wisest of decisions. If several of you think differently I tip my hat to you. I'm 32 and still growing and changing in a lot of ways. I've come to the conclusion that I know nothing in the grand scheme of things but I'm learning daily. Let's hope and pray CJ is doing the same. This may do it for him and we will be thankful. Go Jazz.

  • amgolfer San Francisco, CA
    March 17, 2011 8:35 p.m.

    Hey Jazz Source--nope didn't miss your point. Look at the big picture and stop being so negative. Oh, Harris should be a 3-pt threat...why not? You serious? Most PG can drain the three and are serious threats; come on. Your comparison's area idiotic buddy. My point was very clear. Typical, ignorant Jazz fan. Sad, very sad. Give credit where credit is due--he had a great game and just maybe he can grow from this. CJ has a lot to work on and he is 23 and just maybe he found a his niche, time will tell. I will enjoy it for what it's worth--u should too. What a waste even commenting on this nonsense. Go Jazz and thanks to all the positive fans.

  • BillM75 Salt Lake City, UT
    March 17, 2011 6:25 p.m.

    Bugoff, "You are forgetting that Sloanosaurus insisted on playing CJ out of position and also insisted on bringing him off of the bench. Those 2 factors make a big difference in his percentages and consistency."

    Bingo, tho it pales in comparison to the tens of millions of dollars and who knows how many wins wasted by insisting AK be an off the bench 3. HOF coach no question and the Finals losses aren't on him, but it was time. Locke does a great job breaking down why Favors maybe should start over Sap, blasphemy I know, as well as reiterating why CJ should've been starting at 2 long ago.

    As for CJ, phenomenal...but it was against the DumpsterDogs. This needs to be a start not a fluke. Turns 24 tomorrow, and that's when SG's usually peak.

  • tampicojazzfan West Jordan, ut
    March 17, 2011 3:05 p.m.

    Nice win, CJ was great, even when Min is one of the worse teams on the league, I don't remember that many players putting 40 points on them. I agree he should start at the 2 and we will see more consistency. I like Favors, that kid will be good same as Evans. With a couple additions next year we should be back as a contender. I wish we can make a run and get in to the playoofs even if we have an early exit, however if we don't make them will be fun to see this guys develop into a great players.

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    March 17, 2011 2:14 p.m.

    Steve....... Millsap is not a starter. The Jazz start him but he is undersized and can not guard other starters in the league. Millsap is a very good 6th man but should not be starting.

    Millsap more important than CJ.....Not even close. The Jazz need outside shooting worse than they need Millsap.

  • Steve Jensen Herriman, UT
    March 17, 2011 1:53 p.m.

    Ha Ha Ha - Millsap off the bench. Millsap is a Starter and much more important than Miles.

  • Bugoff Houston, TX
    March 17, 2011 12:57 p.m.

    If the Jazz miss the playoffs that is not all bad.

    They could end up with Kanter in the draft. He is 6'10" but can rebound and shoot inside and out. He can do Memo's role quite well and may be a better defender. He would be cheap for 4 years

    They could get a shooter like Leonard, Burks or Jimmer with the 2nd pick. That solves a lot of problems. They could also add a Vet shooter for about 3-5 mill. They could have gotten Wright for that money this year.

    The only remaining ? would be if Harris is the PG of the future. None of the PGs in the current draft are that impressive.

    @Miskky The Jazz should win between 1/3 and 2/3s of their remaining games. They will need to win about 60% to make the playoffs.

    Starting Millsap may actually increase the wins in the short run as he knows the system and that helps Harris a lot. It also takes pressure off of AJ. Next year, Millsap as a 6th man makes sense.

    The Jazz have a long way to go but they have resources and a plan.

  • Dr Truth SLC, ut
    March 17, 2011 11:59 a.m.

    40 is impressive.....but to all the CJ lovers out there one word Jefferson. He is the reason CJ, AK etc are getting better shots in the starting line up. CJ couldn't carry the team with everyone focusing on him in the second unit. Al has 3 guys looking at him every time he touches the ball. His response, 26 a night since the all star break which is amazing. To me, Jefferson is the story of the second half of the season. Many times AL is still scoring against double teams. Anybody missing Boozer these days? I will say this, I'll bet Al is happy CJ is in the starting lineup. Now he won't have to score against Raja's guy as well! Minny aside, no one should get very excited until this team beats a good team on the road, otherwise, it will still be lottery time!!

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    March 17, 2011 11:46 a.m.

    You know they will re-insert Millsap into the starting lineup and the losing will start up again........

    Millsap, Bell and Hayward off the bench is best for this team.

  • B Russ Ephraim, UT
    March 17, 2011 11:26 a.m.

    I am just as excited about finally having some length in our starting front line (Favors), as I am about Miles starting at the 2.(His natural position,good observation Capt.L) I am also excited about Big Als and Jeremy Evans's progress. We have some really good young talent on this team. We are a better team when the youngins play, plus they are getting the development they need. It's a win win situation. Milsaps energy can be better utilized off the bench along with Bells savy. I hope we can keep this starting lineup through out the rest of the season. Go Jazz!

  • gizmo33 St. George, Utah
    March 17, 2011 11:16 a.m.

    it doesn't change anything the Jazz aren't going anywhere. there nobody going nowhere

  • Jazz-Nation Lehi, UT
    March 17, 2011 11:05 a.m.

    I have been saying all season long that Bell needs to come off the bench and CJ needs the starts. I can't help but think that we would have won at least 5 more games with CJ starting. Think of all the slow pathetic starts, think of all the games Bell scored less than 8 pts per game. Great move coach! Keep fighting Jazz!

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    March 17, 2011 11:00 a.m.

    Jazz Source.........You are missing the key element of why CJ shoots a worse percentage than AK. AK has started all year and was getting better looks as he is not the go-to guy. (Would you rather have Dwill give you a pass or Price?) When CJ comes in with the horrible bench players, he has to jack up a lot of bad shots due to who he is on the floor with.

    Now that CJ has been a starter, his shooting percentage is skyrocketing. He is getting better passes and better looks. Not having to take bad shots due to the shotclock expiring or bad flow in the offense with horrible bench players.

  • Miskky salt lake city, utah
    March 17, 2011 10:56 a.m.

    Yes, it was a great game but.... don't get too excited Jazz fans... stop and remember what team they were playing... Minnesota is 17-52, the 4th worst team in the NBA...

    The Jazz will still only win maybe 1 more game this season if they continue what they have been doing for the last couple of months...

  • Ak Fan Hamburg, GE
    March 17, 2011 10:55 a.m.

    End the end win matters. Stop criticizing CJ after his best career game maybe later :)Be half full, be positive people

  • Bones Salt Lake City, UT
    March 17, 2011 10:53 a.m.

    Congrats to you CJ that was pretty sweet.... Now do it again. You just proved (once again) that you have what it takes to be a dominate player, now stop teasing us fans with flashes of greatness and just be great. Everyone is pulling for you to do just that, the reason some fans are kinda down on you sometimes is that we know you have the tools to be just what this team needs but you don't always show it. Please Please Please back this career night up with consistant 20 point games.

    again congrats, that was awesome.

  • mkSdd3 Ogden, UT
    March 17, 2011 10:34 a.m.

    CJ scores 40 and I say so what. He needs to be consistent before this is a big deal. Milsap scored 46 earlier this year against a lot better team in Miami. Memo's career high is 43, and Al Jefferson has scored 40 twice in his young career. None of that matters until you can do it with a team focusing their defense on you.

    Nice start CJ, you now need to show you can put up 20 every night even when teams are focusing on stoping you.

  • Jazz Cop San Francisco, CA
    March 17, 2011 10:29 a.m.

    i apologize to generalize a group of fans and call them a name, worry warts, worrisome and narcisstic, i'm not interested in preserving a past that doesn't exist and then forecasting doom for everyone because my ideas of the future fail to match up with reality that is based in the present.
    my new name for cj is the rainmaker. i understand the criticism for cj, the heartbreaks, but get excited for his career game. one thing about cj is he's improved his all around game every year, sometimes this sometimes that, but always obviously he is focused on how to score. He has been a lightning rod, but never had an important role like the team has the need for him to take on at this time. Even he said when it rains it pours, he just garaunteed himself more nba money by last night, so now is the time to give him the green light and see what motivates him, i think he likes to score, let him go do it, have funhowever, he has improved enough to step into a b

  • Jazz Source Alpine, UT
    March 17, 2011 10:28 a.m.

    re: amgolfer

    You missed my point. Is Devin Harris supposed to be our big 3 point bomber? Duh!

    My point is CJ thinks he is this awesome shooter/scorer and his stats prove otherwise. Not only CJ but many fans also think CJ is some great 3 point shooter. Once again I say go check the stats. He is incredibly streaky and inconsistent.

    Many people think AK stinks as a 3 point shooter and yet he is just as good or better than CJ according to the stats.

    What does their position have to do with their 3 point shooting %? The line is the same distance from the hoop for both of them.

    I have alway said I love CJ's athletic talent but I and many other Jazz fans are sick of the waste of his talent. We are 5 years plus into this experiment which is long past the time he should have shown consistency. He has been a starter for large portions of seasons before. He may be young but he is an NBA veteran by experience standards.

    I hope he turns the corner like everyone but its been too long coming.

  • jazzer St. George, UT
    March 17, 2011 10:16 a.m.

    @CJ MIles

    Lets see if he can continue to do what he did last night. It's not the first time he has had a good game and then the following game not even show up. So when he does this night in and night out then ill jump on his bandwagon.

  • Bugoff Houston, TX
    March 17, 2011 10:16 a.m.

    CJ will have good nights and bad nights but he needs to start. The starters get more minutes and playing CJ with AK opens up the inside for AJ and Millsap/Favors. That tends to make it harder for teams to jam the paint. That gives room for the C/PFs to operate.

    AJ is more of a one on one player than the C/PFs of the past. He needs room to operate and he needs to move quickly (close to the basket) or pass back out to wings who can shoot. That gives the Jazz an inside/out game (Howard) they have sorely needed for years to compliment the traditional Sloan flex plays.

    Millsap will play better with CJ starting.

    The Jazz need at least one more shooter. One who is better than both CJ and AK. If you add that shooter then CJ/AK can come off of the bench and add shooting to the second unit which is badly needed.

    Corbin's version of the flex requires decent outside shooting to maximize the offense.

    The D will come along as KOC adds more athletic players and quality depth. Corbin will fix the D next year.

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    March 17, 2011 10:14 a.m.

    Houdini there is a saying that goes like this, "It's better to remain silent and be thought a fool than open your mouth and remove all doubt"

    Jerry's system and his attitude towards CJ has kept him from being a great player. Corbin carried that over after Jerry quit. Now with Dwill gone, Corbin is realizing that he needs CJ to succeed. Look at the stats. When CJ scores 20 or more points the Jazz seldom loose the game. To score 20 or more points in the NBA, you need minutes on the floor. Can't think of a bench player who averages over 20 points. CJ needs to be a starter and Bell needs to watch in awe.

    Does CJ need to work harder on his game? Yes....But so do all the players on this team.

    I like Favors starting over Millsap.........

  • Jazz Cop San Francisco, CA
    March 17, 2011 9:39 a.m.

    I don't care if you are kobe or mj23, it isn't easy to score 40 pts in this league against any team good or bad, the fact the jazz won and cj did get 40 is pretty exciting and instead a bunch of know it alls who are just mad because what they've said can't be done is now happening. there are worry warts and then there are jazz fans who want to upset other jazz fans, and then some are both. the both are the worst.

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    March 17, 2011 9:38 a.m.

    I knew Houdini, Doc,& other negative birds would come out, CJ does need to prove he can be consistent but I think he's seeing himself in a different light. He sees this team needs him and in the past they could depend on DWill or someone else. Playing at the 2 spot also makes things more comfortable for CJ to score, his match ups are more to his liking.
    I still don't think this team can make the playoffs, they have a tough schedule. This team is young and even players with 5 or 6 yrs are having to learn new roles and perform differently. How Favors & Hayward come around will be big as to how much this team improves.

  • Dr Truth SLC, ut
    March 17, 2011 9:23 a.m.

    Credit goes to Corbin, who finally removed Bell from the starting line-up. Something Jerry just wouldn't do. Does Corbin have what it takes to bring Milsap off the bench? Clearly having a bigger/longer Favors in the starting line-up has helped as well. I'm not going to go CJ crazy here, however, I do like mixing up the play making between Harris,AK,CJ and Al. It makes it harder to guard the Jazz that way. Now Corbin needs to get the Jazz to play better defense. I was watching the Heat vs the Thunder and dreaming of watching a Jazz team run and make plays like that and then what do you know for one night vs the worst defensive team in the NBA, they put on a dunk fest! I do like the change in athletic ability in the starting 5. With a couple more lottery picks we might have the depth/athletic ability to really get up and down the court.

  • The Great Houdini Rye, CO
    March 17, 2011 9:21 a.m.

    miles,by all means go ahead and gloat,it`s only taken 6 years to finally have a big game,and no I`ve never HAD to count that high for cj,not even close.It`s not quite a Millsap like game where my boy Paul put up 46 and won the game against a real team,Miami,but yes,gloat cause I doubt if it`ll happen again especially against a contender,btw not much else other than points,how about playing a little d? minn 104 ?

  • JazzMan Centerville, UT
    March 17, 2011 9:18 a.m.

    This is actually a little frightening to me because I know that CJ could just as easily go 1 for 18 in the next 4 games. He has the skills just not any kind of consistancy.

  • BlameItOnTheOfficials Cottonwood Heights, UT
    March 17, 2011 9:02 a.m.

    I wish CJ could play like that in every game.

  • The Great Houdini Rye, CO
    March 17, 2011 8:55 a.m.

    Lets all get real here,a win at home against possibly the worst team in the NBA...giving up 104...take a deep breath folks,lets see if we can continue against quality teams,as for cj miles,40/4/2,nice shooting night,reminds me a bit of kobe,when he goes off scores 60 and the lakers lose.do it every day cj, or is this just a one shot in the dark?

  • Doctor J Manti, UT
    March 17, 2011 8:37 a.m.

    Al Jefferson is a beast in the paint. Favors is going to be very good. When the ball is pushed up the floor...good things happen. It kind of reminds me of when Ricky Green was pushing it. Harris and Watson like their bigs to run the floor with them. It's a DunkShow!

  • deno22 Rexburg, ID
    March 17, 2011 8:36 a.m.

    You know their defense still isn't great but I don't think we are ever going to see the points allowed go down too much just because this team is becoming a faster paced team. They push the ball every chance they get with devon and earl. I love it.

  • Hugh G. Hater SLC, UT
    March 17, 2011 8:36 a.m.

    Dear Minnesota


  • one day... South Jordan, UT
    March 17, 2011 8:23 a.m.

    to Bugoff...you said "But the most important difference is that about 2 1/2 months ago the Sloan system stopped working. It stopped working because the paint was packed. Sloan insisted in going inside first"

    Sloan's system stpped working not because the system was bad, didn't work because was too simple for the players and nobody was buying it!

    It worked for Stockton and Malone for decades, not 1 or 3 seasons, DECADES. That system was classic, pure basketball!!! Basketball is more than jumping like a crazy frog!

  • Steve Jensen Herriman, UT
    March 17, 2011 7:59 a.m.

    Yeah! CJ got 40 points against one of the worst teams in the league! Lets celebrate! Now that he had a good game he's going to think he's a star shoot all the time in every game wither its a good shot selection to not- wait he already does that.
    Hayward shot 5-5 on 3's in when they lost to the T-Wolves. Even if it was a win I wouldn't be selling that he's great and that hes going to have a great future. Point is there are lots of average players that have had 30-40 point games against bad teams.
    The difference was the Jazz played Defense - which should be hard against at bad, and the T-Wolves don't play defense. I'm happy they got a win. Another losing again against a bad team would be embarrassing.

  • Jazz Cop San Francisco, CA
    March 17, 2011 7:44 a.m.

    cj can score every night, and he's going to have to step into scoring twenty points a night if this team is going to make the playoffs. i like the point, that in the past, he'd get hot, but then the ball would have to go to other players, but now there is no one, this team needs cj to score 20 a night, and the timing is good, circumstances are good, just give cj the green light, his performance last night is a garauntee that he'll be back next year, but there is nothing to lose for the rest of this year by giving him the green light because the only way to make the playoffs is for cj to have 20 pt games every night.
    besides, his style of play and big al's style of play match up, if the jazz are going with big al then they are going to need a volume scorer like cj who can score from anywhere, so it's either cj or going to have to be someone else to fill that role, not another post player.
    favors also compliments big al, howdouask shortsap to backup again?

  • Vince the boonies, mexico
    March 17, 2011 5:03 a.m.

    I too will eat crow for breakfast. C.J. has game, athletic ability and everything a good SG needs to be successful, I just hope he will continue to "let" the game come to him and not force things to happen. One night depending on match-ups score, or assist, always rebound, and continue to try and be a stopper on defense with your size and quickness. It's not rocket science young man, but success will only come to those that work hard at their profession showing desire and effort daily! Great game congratulations.

  • cowboy99 South Jordan, UT
    March 17, 2011 4:11 a.m.

    I really like the offensive system Corbin was running tonight. The wingmen coming of those screens and getting into the lane was really effective and a big reason for Miles' 40 points.

  • Silly Rabbit Magna, UT
    March 17, 2011 12:34 a.m.

    Had to work didnt see the game, but I'm not surprised about this 40 point outburst we have all seen it in CJ over the past few years it just hasnt been consistent, but when he had it going in past few years it seemed that someone else would get the ball (Booz,Memo,D-Will,AK,Harp). So lets give it up to the kid, yea I know he's been in the league for 5 years but what is he 23 years old. CJ will be a good 2 guard one day he just has to be given the chance, yea I know he's had a chance before but not this year until now so 59 points in two starts thats 29.5 a game

    Good game CJ, and CJ from Dallas be proud a 40 point game, on 14/18 from the field, 6/7 from the arc, and 6/7 from the line. So he shot the ball 25 times from the floor and charity strip and hit 20 of them well anybody would take that 80%

    Good game young one, keep it up

  • amgolfer San Francisco, CA
    March 17, 2011 12:12 a.m.

    Anytime Bugoff. Your making some great points on the forum tonight. I for one appreciate the optimism you are showing. Perception is reality and I get that. It's hard to always be positive as there is so much negativity, at times, on these forums. I too have been guilty of that myself towards Bell, Harris, Price CJ, Elson, etc.

  • Bugoff Houston, TX
    March 16, 2011 11:52 p.m.

    Thanks amgolfer

    I should give Sloan a break. He had reasons for his biases but some of them hurt the team.

    Sloan/Koc designed the SG with weaker shooting skills because DWill could shoot. They did not want competition between DWill and the SG.

    However, Mathews developed and they still had Korver and it actually helped DWill.

    The Jazz were a mess before Korver. Gordon G could shoot but he would break plays and move to the open spaces and that infuriated Sloan.

    This year it was very clear the Jazz needed more shooting to open up the inside. Sloan/KOC never made the move(s) to do it and the Jazz tanked.

    With Sloan gone KOC is making the necessary moves. I expect a much better team by this time next year.

    AJ/Favors make a great front line. Millsap can rotate in. If AK stays and Hayward develops they both rebound, play D and should be decent on offense.

    If CJ is consistent that leaves getting one more very good SG.

    Harris should improve and Watson is a good back up PG.

    Add enough bench strength and you have a good team.

  • Ak Fan Hamburg, GE
    March 16, 2011 11:46 p.m.

    :) I tried to say less isolated play one on one aka AL Jefferson. When everybody involved team plays better.Find a open man pass it, easy baskets. In Last games AL's stats up Jazz got more L.

  • Kakashi Tokyo, Japan
    March 16, 2011 11:41 p.m.

    i expect to have this as a starting lineup next year...unless...we draft someone really good..im giving credit to CJ...he is a fun player to watch...if he makes good decisions with the ball...could this be a turning point to his career?....im not sure...but he had a monster of a game...

  • Kyle loves BYU/Jazz Provo, UT
    March 16, 2011 11:37 p.m.

    Ton of dunks tonight!!! Loved it. CJ has had two good games in a row. Here's to 3 in a row! Happy St. Patrick's day! (It's a mt dew by the way, I don't drink)

    Oh and my favorite four days of the year are here!! Happy Basketball everybody!

  • JazzRule Bountiful, UT
    March 16, 2011 11:23 p.m.

    @AK Fan

    What do you mean no more one on one? They had 28 assists, lol. They ran the offense and made great passes and had success.

  • amgolfer San Francisco, CA
    March 16, 2011 11:18 p.m.

    We passed great tonight I thought. I think we had 26 teams assists to their 13? Passing was beautiful; heck look at all the dunks...it was a dunk fest tonight. If your referring to CJ, well.....I counted 4-5 times he drove and dished off only to have a foul called on the Wolves to avoid an EASY layup. It was very productive and won't show up on the stat sheet.....it's great basketball. You should know as a lot of what AK does (that benefits the team greatly) never shows up on the stat sheet.

  • Fuzzbrain Pleasant Grove, UT
    March 16, 2011 11:13 p.m.

    That was actually my favorite game of the whole season. The Jazz played with intensity the entire game and showed some cohesiveness that has been missing for a long time. Kirilenko had sort of a bad first half but he made up for it in the second half. I like the way Favors gets in front of whoever he's defending & makes it tough for them to score. Jefferson played another great game; especially in the second half. And of course CJ Miles had the best game of his career. Keep it up Jazz--even the crowd seemed to be enjoying this one a lot more than any recent games.

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    March 16, 2011 11:12 p.m.

    I have been saying CJ needs to be at the 2 spot for years and was frustrated that Sloan keep playing him at the 3. CJ is undersized to play the 3 and it puts him at a disadvantage, being at the 2 gives CJ the advantage and that can have a positive impact on his mental approach. Sometimes it's little things that can make a difference.
    I liked how Favors looked tonight and Evans too for that matter. Hayward is playing good D but needs to be more assertive offensively.

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    March 16, 2011 11:02 p.m.

    Great game CJ.
    CJMiles (poster), go ahead and gloat!
    I have always thought this is what CJ has in him (and more), that is what caused so much frustration but CJ is young and I think he is realizing this team needs him to produce. The team doesn't have DWill any more and CJ is starting to see that he needs to step up and be someone the team can go to.
    It is a learning situation and I hope CJ is leaning how much this team needs him to play well if they are going to win. In the past I think CJ always conceded to DWill and the vets and never thought of himself as someone the team needed to make the play. I just hope he can become consistent, if he can everyone that has been wanting to trade him will be excited that we have him.
    I think with Corbin as the coach CJ can become the go to guy and second to Big Al in scoring (next yr). We will see but I still have hope.
    CJ hasn't done enough to cause all the naysayers to totally back off but it's astart.

  • amgolfer San Francisco, CA
    March 16, 2011 10:59 p.m.

    @ Bugoff--nice insight... Makes a lot of sense. Again, not jumping on CJ bandwagon but trying to stay positive. Time will tell us a lot. These guys need confidence....

  • B Russ Ephraim, UT
    March 16, 2011 10:57 p.m.

    I like Corbins new starting lineup. It's producing. Don't mess with it now.

  • Bugoff Houston, TX
    March 16, 2011 10:53 p.m.


    You are forgetting that Sloan insisted on playing CJ out of position and also insisted on bringing him off of the bench. Those 2 factors make a big difference in his percentages and consistency.

    But the most important difference is that about 2 1/2 months ago the Sloan system stopped working. It stopped working because the paint was packed. Sloan insisted in going inside first. Only after the play broke down would the ball come back out to CJ/DWill to take a shot with little time on the clock.

    Sloan used CJ as a bailout and also defense on fast breaks after missed jump shots.

    I am not saying CJ is Kobe. I am saying that Sloan used a lot of people out of position and CJ was one of them. CJ matches up better as an SG. He has 3 inches more reach than Bell. That makes a difference. He is undersized as an SF.

    Sloan insisted on bring CJ off of the bench. It probably was a bad mistake. However, Sloan/KOC refused to get a shooter. They needed CJs shooting off the bench.

    Corbin is fixing Sloan's mistakes.

  • Anonigma Murray, UT
    March 16, 2011 10:52 p.m.

    I'm not joining the CJ bandwagon till I see more consistency, but this is the CJ that I thought was going to show up this season.
    He's certainly more than capable to do everything. IE: Shoot, pick and roll, hit shots off the dribble...

    I've always felt like the reason he hasn't lived up to himself was either because he wasn't quite there mentally or physically. Now I'm not sure what it is...probably more mental.

    Hopefully there's more to come with Miles.

  • amgolfer San Francisco, CA
    March 16, 2011 10:47 p.m.

    Hey Jazz Source I quoted a few stats the other night on AK vs Harris. AK stats (FG% and 3-pt%) are better than Devon's as well so what's your point? Why not bag on Harris? Pointless. Your comparing apples to oranges my friend. Two different players/positions. Come on. He played respectable D tonight and sure he needs to get better but a lot of stars do as well. It's ever evolving. He is 23 y/o...Living in the past helps no one. Do you constantly remind others of the mistakes from the past? Looked in the mirror lately? It was a nice win tonight for all Jazz fans and fellow teammates. I don't think they are all lying about how they feel about this "kid." Does CJ have a lot of improvement to do? Absolutely...Let's go with this for now and see what happens. We have had so much drama and negativity with Coach Sloan and DWill....The Jazz, collectively, showed a lot of hear tonight in my opinion. I loved every minute it. Still need to tighten up on D but it was better.

  • Bugoff Houston, TX
    March 16, 2011 10:38 p.m.

    I just read an article that indicated how well you do in the playoffs is determined by the quality of your 6 best players. AJ, AK, Millsap, Favors, CJ and Harris.

    My own research indicates your best 8 players. If you add 2 lotto picks and/or a great wing to the above you have a decent playoff team.

    Further, you build a team around the C and PG positions, then the PF position. Since the C and PF positions are mirrors in the Jazz system that means you build around AJ, Harris and Favors/Millsap.

    However, the Jazz can't run their offense without wings who can shoot. Fortunately those are the easiest positions to get. Good Cs and PGs are the hardest.

    Greg/KOC took a big gamble on trading DWill (top 3 PG). Favors added to AJ with some tweaks to the offense should pay off as Favors develops and Harris gets more familiar with the team/offense and better at his shot selection.

    This team is close to fixing some of its problems.

    Corbin is more flexible than Sloan and will make changes and find a way to get back on track.

  • amgolfer San Francisco, CA
    March 16, 2011 10:32 p.m.

    Ya Realist let's trade away another future asset so we can get burned later. Give this a chance as he has done well the past two games as starter. EVERYONE including his teammates are stoked about CJ Miles. You saw glimpses of his game tonight. I am not jumping on any bandwagon here as CJ still has to show consistency and heart. I'm just not ready to throw in the towel. He spread the offense beautifully tonight and AJ didn't have to do it all alone...great TEAM win. AK was brilliant as was Favors. All five starters were fabulous tonight. Evans/Watson were also was a nice spark off the bench.

    I will never forget a comment Lebron James made last year to DWill about CJ. He commented that this kid (CJ) had ALOT of game. I will never forget that. If CJ could only realize this and play with heart night in and night out, watch out. This offense was loose tonight and it seemed to fit everyone. We have a long way to go but nevertheless it was exciting even if it was against the lowly Wolves. Go jazz

  • Jazz Source Alpine, UT
    March 16, 2011 10:29 p.m.

    These are the types of games that delude Jazz fans and CJ himself.

    Go check the stats yourself. You will stunned how many players shoot better %'s than CJ from 2 or 3 point range.

    AK does..bet you didn't know that.

    This type of game just shows you what a bust CJ has been up to this point. This guy has a ton of talent and should have been playing alot better for years but he hasn't. He has been a huge underachiever to say the least.

    Now he will have license for a while to jack up shots and stay on the floor without playing defense.

    I give credit to CJ for an outstanding offensive performance tonight but it makes me ask the question--where has this guy been for the last few years?

  • Penguin Inc. Salt Lake City, Utah
    March 16, 2011 10:27 p.m.

    Ha! Deron never scored 40! What? He did? Shoot. Anyway, nice job Miles!

  • Bugoff Houston, TX
    March 16, 2011 10:24 p.m.

    Amazing what a wing who can shoot will do for your whole team. The Jazz might be a contender right now if they had gotten a wing or 2 who could shoot in Jan.

    It is clear that CJ is best at SG and he should start (something many have said for some time). His consistency may improve with starting.

    Playing AK at SF and CJ at SG give the Jazz wings who can shoot. At least that is the best combo available right now.

    CJ opened up the inside and gave AJ and Favors some room to work. His shooting also helped AK.

    The Jazz had 28 assists. 8 by Watson and 6 by AK. The offense ran most of the time. It bogged down in the 3rd when CJ and AK were out and there were no shooters in the game.

    Keep in mind this game was against MN at home. But the team is running the offense and playing better D.

    The Jazz are bouncing off bottom. The next 3 games will be a good indicator of improvement.

    Time and a couple more good players will make this team a contender.

  • JazzRule Bountiful, UT
    March 16, 2011 10:13 p.m.

    This game was a lot of fun to watch. I think we had more dunks in this game than any other game this season. Like I said before this game, C.J. needs to attack the hoop, he is so great at it. I hope he continues to do that. It opens things up for Al and it increases C.J.s confidence to start moving out and making jump shots. I like that a lot of his scoring came through running the offense, it wasn't just one on one play.

    The Jazz offense looked great tonight. I was happy with Favors and his play. He is going to be a force in this league for years to come. I wish he could catch a break on foul calling, but that just comes with time in the league. I also liked watching Evans and Hayward. Man, I love our rookies. Al looked great and so did AK. I am amazed Harris was able to play after pulling a hammy. Isn't that usually an injury that takes you out a while?

    C.J. is taking his opportunity and running with it. Great for him! He's a 2!

  • deno22 Rexburg, ID
    March 16, 2011 10:12 p.m.

    Well both games he has started under Ty Corbin CJ has proved himself because he attacks the rim first. He is such a good scorer around the rim, so as long as he keeps doing that he will be consistent because that never goes away, only jump shots come and go. Maybe CJ is just a player who can't just start it up coming off the bench. I guess time will tell if his play is consistent as a starter.

    Hayward looked a little off tonight, Bell is still struggling shooting but doesn't look too different coming off the bench. Watson came in and had huge minutes dishing the ball out. I like how Favors was strong going to the hoop, he just needs to slow down in certain situations but ever since being on the jazz his average points has gone up which is good to see. I like his future and the future of this team. Hopefully Okur comes back healthy next season. Big Al has proved himself over and over, very impressed. Still needs to box out better though.

  • CocoNutzz Salt Lake City, UT
    March 16, 2011 10:11 p.m.

    @ CJMiles

    Says the guy that jumped off his bandwagon when CJ had that bad stretch after D-Will left.

    CJ balled out of his mind today.

    CJ looked confident in his shot today after he was taking the ball to the rim for layups.

    Good game by the rookies also. Favors played great help defense, and on the ball. Hayward was aggressive on D and got a couple of steals and made some passes for assists. And Evans came in and provided a spark.

    I like what I'm seeing from these guys. Keep it up

  • Doug10 Roosevelt, UT
    March 16, 2011 10:10 p.m.

    I used to think AK could fill a stat sheet. Go Miles.

    Revenge is sweet even if they are the lowly Timberwolves

  • Realist Kaysville, UT
    March 16, 2011 9:54 p.m.

    No this is good, the Jazz need to do all they can to up his trade value.

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    March 16, 2011 9:36 p.m.

    That CJ is such a horrible player. I can't believe Corbin even plays him. He can't shoot, he is lazy, etc........

    Don't any of you jump on the bandwagon tonight. This is CJ's and my night to gloat.

    CJ was the only one to even make a 3 with the exception of Harris who hit one. The rest of the team couldn't hit the rim from outside. CJ was unstoppable.

    Take note Corbin....The issue with Bell is not debateable. CJ is your starter at the 2 for the rest of the year. If you can not see that, hopefully Kevin shows you the door soon.

    40 points......40 points......Houdini can't even count that high.........

    By the way, last game he scored 19 points. I think that makes two games in a row for a guy who can't only show up every 5 - 6 games......

  • jazzer St. George, UT
    March 16, 2011 9:35 p.m.

    This is the type of play we have been looking out of CJ for the last 5 years. We all know this isn't going to be a regular thing because he seems to be very incosistant but ill take it. If we can continue to get the play like we did from AK, Cj, Big al and even favors i like how our future looks. Not saying this season but next year and years following. Lets get healthy and see what our future holds.

    Go JAZZ

  • gazelle Murray, UT
    March 16, 2011 9:33 p.m.

    Man Jazz only won by 15 points? Ha ha just kidding. Miles proved us all wrong tonight didn't he? Nice win Jazz you guys looked like a team tonight.

    Go Jazz

  • rvalens2 Burley, ID
    March 16, 2011 9:30 p.m.

    Wow! Maybe this will give CJ the confidence boost he needs to become consistent in his outside shot. If he could knock down 20 points a game it would be a huge boost for the Jazz.