When Romney was governor the state was being ravaged by having to pay health
care costs for people without insurance. The Massachusetts provides the best
proof we have that trying to legislate responsibility won't work. I resent the
implication that Romney has no soul and that Santorum does. The
current fiscal crisis being ignored by the current administration and many GOP
incumbent appropriators. It will take someone with proven executive skills to
understand the problem and turn it around. What Romney brings to the table is
his experience in starting and building businesses and successful businesses
create jobs. The only way the Democrats know how to create jobs is for the
government to hire more bureaucrats who produce nothing but higher taxes and
more regulations. The conservative attacks on him by the tea party groups are
unfair, judging him more on where he lives than on his actual views. Having seen
Santorum as a Senator, I have very little confidence in his ability to achieve
consensus or revive the economy.
Interesting comments. Lots of bashing. Lots of misinformation. The article
was simply pointing out the world of politics today in the GOP. Upstart is
attacking the old school. Nothing new here. One is trying to move up by
dragging down his opponent. Old school politics: 101.Intriguing in
all of the comments, however, is the unsubstantiated, illogical attacks on the
President. There is a lot of hatred out there in our society and it appears
today in the writings. Wow. Sad in a way. Very sad.
kmh, Santorum got re-elected two the senate. That is more than we can
say for Romney and being governor. He only served one term. Santorum was in
the senate for 12 years.
I lived in Massachusetts for not quite two decades. I moved from Massachusetts a
couple of years before Romney became governor. During my time in the state, a
conservative revolution took place. Western conservatives probably don't think
it was much of a revolution, but it was. I saw and rejoiced when the local
school boards lost their fiscal autonomy and became subject to the Selectmen of
the towns, and the Selectmen were limited in how much they could raise taxes.
Before that change, school boards could increase their budget, and the Selectmen
had no choice but to raise taxes to pay for the increases.Romney
became governor of Massachusetts at the climax of that revolution. If you think
the health plan in Massachusetts is bad, just be glad a more liberal person
wasn't governor when the plan became law!
Romney was a conservative governor in a very liberal state. In fact, I was
surprised he was elected governor, because he wasn't part of the liberal
establishment. He did what he had to do to get something done -- compromise.
Funny, the one thing that Mitt has done for the people is the very thing that
will hurt him the most in republican circles. As a liberal I can think of a lot
of reasons not to support Romney, but his courageous attempt to reform health
care at the state level is certainly not one of them.
I would like to take this moment and call for a moratorium on all social issues.
No more government debate of immigration, health care, gay marriage, social
security or abortion until we've gotten our downward-spiraling economy back
under control. Issues like jobs and debt are on the verge of
destroying our way of life and people want to waste time debating social policy.
Quit squabbling over minor issues and demand action from both parties before it
is too late.
Santorum lost re-election in his own State. He will be nothing but a side show
in the upcoming election.
Mitt Romney has more qualifications to run for President than any other I have
seen! He can learn from MA healthcare program....implement the good...change
that which isn't working! He knows how to manage a dollar....he knows how to
organize and get things done, and he will certainly be able to downsize
government so that we no longer operate in the "red"....no pun
intended! Look what he did for the Olympics!!! Mitt is a good man....he
is not perfect and makes mistakes like everyone else, but I believe him to be
honest, hard working, and one who believes in America and the Constitution of
the United States of America.....and I don't think he has a hidden agenda like
some! God Bless America.....God help him get elected if he is the man to get
this country on track again and to stop socialism!!!
The leftist liberal progressive media will do anything and say anything to
discredit a good candidate like Mitt Romney. He has the credentials to begin to
financially turn this country around. He has done that in big business time and
time again. No one else even comes close to having that experience. The currant
administration is crushing this country economically with massive debt and
spending. Mitt would bring free enterprise back and create jobs.Wake
I hope all republicans and tea partiers remember who and what they are fighting
against-not themselves. This next presidential election will be tough enough to
beat Obama and his damaging, ridiculous policies and agenda. Infighting and
disunity won't get far in the public eye. Santorum just lost some clout in my
Whose life RU living wrote:"If a person is able to organize and
implement a strategy to persuade the majority of a nation's views to elect them
to be president, I would think 'hey this person might know a thing or two about
being a leader.'"You've just described Mr. 'Voting Present',
Barack Obama. how's that working out? Political skill is not executive ability
and never has been.
Obama has nothing to run on so he will just sit back.... Well what do you want
him to do for Romney? He gave Romney a compliment last week and republicans
accused Obama of tainting Romney.Yes, we will watch republicans
change thier positions again on everything and Obama will be re-elected.Deficits didn't matter Cheney said - now it's all that matters.Everyone should be personally responsible and buy heathcare insurance Romney
put into law - but now that's communism.Spending is necessary to
protect Americans from being killed - but not from dying.The
me-party will not save the repubican party.
Republicans should politely exorcise those who associate themselves with
"Tea Party" beliefs and force them to register as a third political
party. Tea Party influence is a bad thing for Republicans as the nation as a
whole will begin to tire of the Tea Party rhetoric. The gains of 2010
attributed to the rise of the Tea Party will simply not be there in national
elections to come as a centrist nation refuses to elect far right candidates
with "Tea Party" beliefs.For Mitt Romney, Orrin Hatch, or
Jon Huntsman Jr. to feel they have to give audience to Tea Party representatives
in an attempt to convince them that, "hey, I'm like you" is just wrong
and should not be. True Republicans are losing their voice as they are shouted
down by those under the false belief they are part of a grass-roots conservative
movement.Gentlemen: Stick to your true beliefs. Real leaders
JNA: there are plenty of Democrats who oppose elective abortion. The
highest-ranking Mormon in government, Harry Reid, is personally opposed to
elective abortion--and, in fact, in his talk at BYU a couple of years ago, he
described how those in his party respected his position on abortion.If Mormons allow themselves to have a "wake me up when somebody changes
their position on abortion" political stance, Republicans will continue to
take the Mormon vote for granted while passing all sorts of legislative
nonsense. Want to invade a country on false pretenses? "Abortion!"
Want to give $13million away under the table to keep a contractor quiet?
"Hey, look over there, abortion!" Want to pass HB 477? "Better
not vote for the other guys, because Abortion!"Furthermore, the
LDS stance on abortion recognizes that in some cases abortion may be a viable
choice in cases of rape, incest, or when the life or health of the mother are
endangered. Many prominent Republicans oppose the rape or incest clause, and in
fact in the last presidential campaign the GOP candidate openly mocked the
"life or health of the mother" clause.So, which party is
more incompatible with LDS values?
@JNAI walked away from the Republican party years ago and never
looked back. It doesn't mean you have to become a Democrat.Seriously. No one should have to put up with a Huckabee. No one.
" Maybe enough anger between Mormons over right wing political issues will
allow Democrats to appeal to LDS voters"then there's that pesky
little abortion thing.Change that plank, and I walk away from the
Republican Party without a problem because I am ashamed of who has taken over
the Republican Party. But I rather be ashamed than turn a blind eye to a party
that thinks it is ok to take the life of an unborn child. I just can't stomach
it, so I put up with the Sarah Palins, Mike Huckabees, et al
He said what we're all thinking.
Excellent transition from an internal Republican quabble to impeachment
memes.Gr8Dane - if you were less rhetorical and more specific, you might
even be taken seriously.And FDRfan, I don't know how to respond to your
premise of using Fredettes' "like" or is that an Idaho thing? Who is
this TJ you speak of?
It will be interesting to see if Mormon political solidarity is finally broken.
Maybe enough anger between Mormons over right wing political issues will allow
Democrats to appeal to LDS voters. This would be good, but it runs the risk of
electing more tea party crackpots, which neither we nor the country needs.
if the GOP eats each other alive for a year Obama can just set back and watch...
and then get re-elected. Obama has nothing to run ON so why not just let the
opposition run the show for you and stick a fork in each other. Obama is a GREAT
polititian and a TERRIBLE leader. America NEEDS a leader.
Romney needs to run on his Olympics record. I think most can agree that the
Salt Lake Winter Olympics ran extremely well and his leadership was solid there.
Other than he should run on being reasonable. We need somebody to cater to the
middle, the people fed up with extreme politics, with extreme politics of just
making the other side look bad to get elected in the next cycle. As for
Romneycare in Mass. No big deal to me. He tried something, it didn't work,
move on. But at least he tried something...
Nobody would feel like the government is trying to "shove healthcare reform
down their throats" if they were someone that didn't have it and were
losing their home and/or declaring bankruptsy because of medical bills. These
are the realities in our country and it's time to face it. If you have a good
plan nobody is "shoving" anything. If you don't, you will have a
chance to get one...simple as that. And if you just have "sour grapes"
because your party wasn't the one to help with this issue....maybe you need a
little humility.A Volunteer for the Affordable Care Act(And
Proud and happy for it)
This article was quite disappointing. In summary I would describe it in two
sentences. Big title. Little substance.
re: atl 134 at 11:34"so hey... if this state thinks it can do
better... go for it."I think this state of Utah "can"
do better - and I think we should go for it !At least this way we
can keep all the pork in our own state . .
please write---i am tired of being referred to someone else's writing as a
substitue---santorum just states the obvious but romney already
Sounds like politics. Let's hear some ideas. No bumper sticker, or one liners.
WE need ideas.We saw what happened when people voted based on,
"Yes we can". Turns out that we can, but, it's worthless. We saw
what "Change & Hope" brought us. Now we are left with little
change and fear.We need a real leader, with real ideas. Enough with
these petty attacks. Share your ideas and be prepared to answer tough
Actually, the economy is front and center, not health care. But let's not let
facts get in the way of political attacks.
Who cares, sounds like he is just whining that he isnt Mitt Romney.
Left of center media (which is most of national press corps) wants to cause
division among Republicans, and so they'll take any little comment or criticism
one prominent Republican may have, and blow it up entirely out of proportion in
order to foment discord, disharmony, and cause controversy which sells ink (or
bandwidth these days). This is a nothing story. Rick Santorum will be one of
the first people to praise Romney should Romney succeed in capturing the
Republican Nomination for President...Obama is absolutely ruining
this nation. His foreign policy is more than weak -- it's shameful. Obama is
the first President in our history who has legitimized the murderous
dictatorship in Iran by officially recognizing its title of the "Islamic
Peoples Republic of Iran." He legitimized a murderous dictator in shaking
the hand of Aminajhad...(not to mention Hugh Chavez). He's piling on crushing
debt, with no sense of urgency about it all. He pushes massive income
redistribution, ruins the dollar by printing money in the basement, and cutting
natioanl defense and giving Russia a nuclear advantage for a photo-op. It's
shameful. He needs to be replaced and any GOP out there is better.
Mitt Romney, Tell Rick Santorum, the Tea Party and the Republican Party where to
go and choose someone like Evan Bayh as a running mate and run on a 3rd party.
Get Jimmer to endorse you on his Facebook and TJ to write campaign songs for
you. If Facebook can bring down an Egyptian dictator it can help you bypass the
money machines of campaigning. The American People are not as stupid as the
right assumes nor as dependent on handouts as the left supposes.
To J in AZ,If a person is able to organize and implement a strategy
to persuade the majority of a nation's views to elect them to be president, I
would think "hey this person might know a thing or two about being a
leader."Nah, thats not real leadership! Leadership is being a
principal of a school!Oh that makes sense! (no it really dosen't)
"if the State of Utah had its own health care legislation similar to that
of Mass when Mr. Romney was Governor, I would ten times rather have that system
than have what the current Federal Government is trying to shove down our
throats."They're practically the same thing. Also, Obamacare
allows states to opt out of it if they can create their own plan that doesn't
increase the deficit or premiums and covers at least as many people as Obamacare
does so hey... if this state thinks it can do better... go for it.
People who have never run a business, had military command, or served as a
mayor, elected county executive, governor, or been a principal of a school or
president of a college or university should never be considered as qualified to
be President of the U.S. no matter how worthy their political positions.
Santorum is a strong conservative, but he doesn't have any more management and
leadership experience than Obama did on the day that he was elected.
This headline is an exageration. The one statement attributed to Santorum isn't
much of an attack. He just said what every other politician and pundit is
saying: that Romney's healthcare reform in MA may cause a problem for him in
campaigning for the presidency.
I am almost a tea party type of person myself, but if the State of Utah had its
own health care legislation similar to that of Mass when Mr. Romney was
Governor, I would ten times rather have that system than have what the current
Federal Government is trying to shove down our throats.I think we
have too much of Federal Government and not enough of State's Rights.
Tea party candidates may be surprised if moderates, being the majority, find
These losers always attack the ones they are most threatened by. I think they
all know that Mr. Romney is the one they should be afraid of.