BYU/Davies: Mekeli Wesley reaches out in empathy

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  • John Pack Lambert of Michigan Ypsilanti, MI
    March 12, 2011 1:30 p.m.

    If BYU had delayed its action at all it would be denounced as a bastion of hypocrysy for doing so for the next 30 years.

  • John Pack Lambert of Michigan Ypsilanti, MI
    March 12, 2011 1:19 p.m.

    In one of the comments on the article by Otterson someone claims that if this expulsion had occured from a military academy people would not question the reasons and just praise the action. I am not sure if this is true, but the noti0on that people think it is true works with the rest of my thought process.

    The military academies are controlled by the federal government. They are thus public institutions and at some level are thus subject to public discussion of their rules. On the other hand BYU is a private, religious institution and its rules are its own decision not under public control. Yet it seems the public tries harder to control the rules imposed by BYU than the rules imposed by the military academies.

  • John Pack Lambert of Michigan Ypsilanti, MI
    March 12, 2011 1:13 p.m.

    Stoudemire has without reason injected race into this issue. Interestingly enough I read a comment on an ESPN or such article where someone claimed that the girl in this case must be non-white because if she was white Davies would not have been punished. I am still trying to figure what the end result of such bizarre racializing of the matter is.

    Stoudemire is also mis-characterizing what has happened. Davies has not been suspended from school. He has been suspended from playing, but is still enrolled in school.

    Hopefully people can find ways to use this whole incident to attack false charges of racism against BYU. It will however require straitforward discussions of race, and acceptance by some people that they have turned the cry of "racism" into a way to advance double-standards.

  • Anon 64 Oahu, HI
    March 9, 2011 6:44 p.m.

    I have some great conflects with this Issue and will continue to have.

    Part is the judgemental People who have posted in. The Rel=ig=ious oh-so, and other Howdey Dodutys,

    That wnat to talk about judgement, punishment, and his future.

    Other the a Code Violation nothing much went on. Evan the School Kept it private which I would expect of them.

    When stuff happens this is the issue it happens over the most. Should that change anything? no! Because of the folks you are dealing with to include the Students want it that way.

    The Marriage Rate at the Y's is fairly high, Temple and non Temple so i do not think its a lack of interest as much as Obidence to the Rules and doing things right

    I took almost 2 years to Re-do the Leiav Temple and some Students waited and some went to Kona, or Tonga or San Diego. However many waited.

    Our young people went to Kona 3 different times. Which requires 2 way Air
    Fare. I paid for my Daughter and Grandson (different mother) twice.

    Spendy but they had fun.

  • awsomeron1 Oahu, HI
    March 9, 2011 6:29 p.m.

    All Davies had was Legal Sex.

    There is No Law against legal Age Sex in Utah or anywhere else.

    However Members and Staff of BYU. BYUH, BYUI and BYU Business College all sign the Honor Code.

    All agree to certain rules and standards and more or less live by them.

    No premartial Sex is a major Factor in the Mormon Church andv the other rules are not a Streach either. Your Child Male or Female can go to anyone of those Schools and feel safe. Feeling safe is also a large part of being a Mamber Of The Church.

    Mostly with the Honor Code if you keep the Word of Wisdom and Able to get your TR then you are okay.

    We also need to know, who lead who, as again for most this is Normal Behavior.

    He is messed up as well as messed over. As he went and Confessed on himself.

    Some people would say confessed about what? As nothing was against the law and no crime was committed.

    He did break the rule and rules in that setting apply to everyone.

    I am glad BYU Held The Line.

  • 3ULLS3Y3 Salt Lake City, UT
    March 9, 2011 6:16 p.m.

    Not to sling the mud, but MWesley admitted to his HC violation in the summer semester. BYU's policy at the time was that the student would have to miss "one semester of season play" and then be brought back to the team. There were several individuals on BYU's staff that were under the impression that missing fall semester wasn't enough of a consequence for Wesley. After all, he got right back on the team in time for Conference play the next January.
    Perhaps with the Unga and Davies tragedies, BYU finally decided to make the suspensions more of a burden to bear.

  • Thlete Draper, UT
    March 9, 2011 1:13 p.m.

    I usually despise the Cougars as a Ute fan, but being LDS, I'm really cheering for their success this season for finally being a good rep for my religion. Hopefully the fans continue the outward support of Davies.

  • Kitenoa Salt Lake City, UT
    March 9, 2011 11:57 a.m.

    Davies is playing in the "biggest" game of his life, being true to himself and his words. The prospect of winning big in your life is also there; with support from your family, friends, and BYU you will not fail. Good luck to Brandon and all those involved in overcoming this challenge. The bigger the opposition the greater the rewards of winning!

  • JustSoYouKnow Pleasant Grove, UT
    March 9, 2011 11:07 a.m.

    The writer never identified who Diamond Leung is...

  • Wiley Old School RIC, VA
    March 9, 2011 10:27 a.m.

    Ivan: well said!

    Deductive: Because this was neither a criminal nor a NCAA violation, had he been quietly suspended after the season, the national press would have been much less interested because it would have had no immediate impact on the basketball scene. Nationally, the Unga situation was not nearly as high profile as this was (for Unga or BYU). Mr. Davies' situation would have been of even less interest if he had been suspended after the season.

  • deductive reasoning Arlington, VA
    March 9, 2011 9:54 a.m.

    Ivan M. Call

    Delaying Brandon's suspension wouldnt have saved Brandon public scrutiny.

    In fact, it would have made it worse.

    There's NO WAY BYU could have kept this a secret.

    Just like the details of Brandon's violation somehow leaked, a friend or relative would have revealed Brandon's "secret" to someone, rumors would have started, and the news media would have started investigating.

    As soon as the story broke, which was inevitable, BYU would have been accused of a cover up and of making a mockery of their own Honor Code, and Brandon would have been accused of receiving preferential treatment because he's a star athlete.

    No, BYU did exactly what BYU should have done for an Honor Code violation as serious as Brandon's. Brandon was immediately suspended and BYU had no choice but to immediate announce his suspension for an unspecified violation of the Honor Code. Brandon couldn't simply disappear from the team.

    The media storm that followed was out of BYU's hands, but it would have been far worse if BYU had delayed action and tried to cover it up.

  • D. Jeremy Spring, TX
    March 9, 2011 9:23 a.m.

    Wow, I didn't know Amare Stoudemire commented on this before I read this article. "Don't ever go to BYU, they kick a Young Educated (Black) Brother OUT OF SCHOOL"

    How does this have anything to do with race? Why are there so many people that try to make everything out to be a race issue?

  • Cougarista Salt Lake City, UT
    March 9, 2011 9:02 a.m.

    So-CalAggie | 2:32 p.m. March 8, 2011
    Leave it to a sanctimonious aggie to confuse things. What happen to Brandon was because BYU respected him as an individual student, athlete and has an eternal interest in him personally.

  • Ivan M. Call Denver, CO
    March 9, 2011 8:58 a.m.

    I dont believe the athletic department intentionally threw Mr. Davies to the wolves. However, that is precisely what happened. Within hours of his suspension being announced, the media uncovered the ecclesiastical reason for the suspension. Within a few days, the press splashed photos of his girlfriend -- who is not a student at BYU and did not sign the Honor Code -- all over the internet. By immediately suspending Davies for the season, BYU virtually guaranteed that his private transgression would become public fodder on ESPN and hundreds of other national and international media outlets. Far from receiving equal treatment under the Honor Code, Davies' personal life and that of his girlfriend were splayed open for public voyeurism and mockery. If BYU thought the media would walk away from the suspension story without first uncovering and reveling in all of the intimate details of the particular Honor Code violation, it was naïve in the extreme. While many commentators have heaped praise on BYU for not placing wins above the Honor Code, perhaps it would have been more honorable to forego institutional accolades in favor of quietly preserving Davies' dignity not to mention the public reputation of a particular young woman.

  • mohokat Ogden, UT
    March 9, 2011 7:10 a.m.

    There are so many people here in Utah and around the Nation who are hoping for the best for Davies. I am one. I hope Brandon guts it up and gets this behind him and it will and won't take long. I know if he plays ball again he will recieve a huge ovation when he steps on the floor.

  • aggieblue Saint George, UT
    March 8, 2011 10:28 p.m.

    I agree with AFcoug, Dave should have not said anything until after the season and gotten the national attention for the Y. Tell Brandon to keep it under his hat until after the season and teach him what is more important, winning at all costs and sacrifice all in the name of the game. Jim Tressel evidently felt that need also and now has to explain why he said nothing. Perhaps he knew notifying the NCAA would cost his team and school the money from projected bowl games.The Y is being accused of being unforgiving, too strict and had they put it off they would have been labeled, "Hipocrates", a no win situation. They followed their code, true to the faith.Good for them, I too would much rather be called too strict rather than untrue to my beliefs. Go Cougars and Aggies.

  • AFCoug Colorado Springs, CO
    March 8, 2011 9:08 p.m.

    Compare how BYU and Davies are handling this very public situation vs. Ohio St. and Jim Tressel. Ohio St. will stand by their coach despite the fact he new his players had broken NCAA regulations and did nothing. Once it broke in the press Ohio St refused to suspend the players for their bowl game, instead putting it off until next year when the players will not even be there but likely be part of the NFL draft. Gotta say BYU is a breath of fresh air in college sports.

  • Ted's of Beverly Hills Las Vegas, Nevada
    March 8, 2011 6:32 p.m.

    Just want to post my support of Brandon. Wish him the best, and hope to see him play in a Cougar's jersey again.
    God bless, Brandon.

  • Wiley Old School RIC, VA
    March 8, 2011 4:52 p.m.


    Actually, I have spent quite a bit of time sitting across the desk from BYU applicants, thoroughly reviewing the code and making it very clear that if they sign on the dotted line, theyd better be prepared to live the letter of the law. I do believe there are obligations and consequences associated with the honor code. For the kind of violation we're talking about, "suspension" from priesthood duties and certain church rites are in order but no other young man would be suspended from the Ward basketball team. And for anyone else this would all be handled discretely and privately and no one would feel "wrong messages" were being sent.

    Of course the honor code office knew this would be a debacle. It was their (difficult) choice to make the decision and announcement when they did. If/when your son or daughter faces a similar trial, if four weeks would make the difference of it being a private or horrifically public event, let me know how you feel.

    We can agree that kudos are due to the team, the BYU community, and others for the strong support for Mr. Davies.

  • Cats Somewhere in Time, UT
    March 8, 2011 4:43 p.m.

    Again, it is Brandon's actions that have lead to this situation, not the coach's or the university's. He broke the honor code and chose the time to come forward. It has also not been determined what his status at the university will be. There was no choice but to make it public. Do you think it wouldn't have been noticed that he suddenly disappeared from the team? I'm also sorry that some on here think that winning championships is more important than the principles that the university stands for. That's really sad. I'm sorry for his team mates, too. That's not the university's fault.

  • UU32 Bountiful, UT
    March 8, 2011 4:20 p.m.

    Interested in what it means for Brandon to "come clean". Did he bring this whole thing to light? Was it his first time in the honor code office? Something still seems amiss about the whole process. Mostly just curious. I attended BYU for grad school, but never had a any interaction with the honor code office - what is the process like? Or is it always as different as each individual circumstance. Just seems like if it is like a normal church disciplinary process, for a young Aaronic Priesthood holder, that a first time offense from a repentant individual would be dealt with much quiter and less harsh that this has been dealt with. Genuinely interested in the process and how this whole thing works. Please help me understand.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    March 8, 2011 4:19 p.m.

    I don't see any celebration over this suspension. When a young man makes a mistake (serious moral mistake) there are many people effected included his parents and siblings etc... Brandon is a great young man and he did the right thing in confessing. I hope the desire to be seen as an uncompromising institution that puts honor over wins and losses doesn't cloud the bigger issue of helping Brandon back into full church fellowship and then back into basketball.

  • Meckofahess Salt Lake City, UT
    March 8, 2011 4:08 p.m.

    To Cats: Not everyone is supporting the school on this. There are a lot of people in and out of the LDS community who think Brandon could have been held accountable and had consequences without all the public humiliation and drama. This young man could have been given the opportunity to repent in a quiet way and helped to learn and grow. After all he reportedly was very remorseful and heartbroken. While my opinion and that of many others is probably in the minority (at least in this area), don't forget there will be consequences for the team such as not now winning the MWC tourny, not going to the final four, etc. Its a shame his team mates are cheated out of those opportunities. There could have been an alternative way to handle this but it would have taken courage and a vision toward the future and not just past precidents. I appreciate the opportunity to share another point of view.

  • Cats Somewhere in Time, UT
    March 8, 2011 3:23 p.m.

    BYU does respect Brandon as a Child of God and as an adult who has signed an honor code and is required to be held accountable for it. Brandon knew when he chose to come clean that it would be made public. There was no other option. Even most people who have a chip on their shoulder about BYU are acknowledging that. Brandon is clearly more of an adult than those who are attacking BYU for doing the right thing.

  • carpediem Holladay, UT
    March 8, 2011 2:36 p.m.

    The one thing that's lame is how ignorant people are about the LDS church. 98% of the comments on CNN are bashing the church.

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    March 8, 2011 2:35 p.m.

    Wiley old school. You have no clue as to what the honor code is about do you? Just about every other school would have done what you suggested and kept the athlete on the team until the season was over. This would have resulted in Davies being sent the wrong message and a blistering negative media blitz on how BYU shows favoritism to athletes. The timeing had to do with when the violation was made known to the honor code office and coach Rose, not when it was most convenient for the school or the team. Good or bad publicity was not considered as you pointed out. People who think like you are representative of why there is so much wrong with the youth of today, especially entitled athletes who think they are above the rules. Kudos to BYU and to Davies for how this has been handled. Handling this in any other way would not have been in the best interest of anyone, including Brandon Davies. The honor code office, the school, the coach did not decide to make this a debacle. The media did. Blame them. Any other school and this would have been a one story issue

  • So-CalAggie Anaheim, CA
    March 8, 2011 2:32 p.m.

    Davies if youre going to listen to a Wesley forget Mekeli; listen to Tai. Go to a school that respects you as a student, an athlete, and an individual, and best of all, a school that respects your private life!

  • Capt. Smash Bountiful, UT
    March 8, 2011 2:03 p.m.

    Everyone including the media needs to leave this gut alone. BYU made there point don't use him as a BYU propaganda machine. He has been thru enough already!

  • Madden Herriman, UT
    March 8, 2011 1:38 p.m.

    I have to say, in following this story locally and nationally, and reading the comments of others, there seems to be a ton of support for both BYU and Brandon Davies. As much of a bummer as this has been to the end of a good basketball year, I find that I am left feeling impressed by the humanity shown by almost everyone who has touched on the story.

  • Kimball Bakersfield, CA
    March 8, 2011 1:28 p.m.

    Watching the way that Brandon Davies has handled a very disappointing and awkward circumstance makes me a lifetime fan. What a great person!

  • NevadaCoug Overton, NV
    March 8, 2011 1:19 p.m.

    I actually agree with Tebow. Everybody should have a second chance.

    Problem is, I think many people, and perhaps Tebow is included with this group, who forget that there are still consequences for any action. Davies must face the consequences, one of which is being suspended from the team.

    Just because we forgive doesn't mean a price won't be paid.

  • Cats Somewhere in Time, UT
    March 8, 2011 1:12 p.m.

    Dear Wiley Old School: Brandon chose the timing--not BYU. And you can imagine what a scandal it would have been had it gotten out that BYU was suppressing this until after the basketball season. Coach Rose did the right thing at the right time. He really had no other choice. All other considerations are irrelevant.

    Everyone is supporting both the school and Brandon. That was really clear to anyone who was at the game on Saturday.

  • BlueCoug Orem, UT
    March 8, 2011 1:09 p.m.


    Brandon's girlfriend isn't even a BYU student. She's a student at another university; and for those speculating, no, she's not pregnant.

    The only thing BYU has said about Brandon's Honor Code violation is that it didn't involve a crime.

  • Wiley Old School RIC, VA
    March 8, 2011 12:56 p.m.


    You label Tebow "holier than thou" and then say you're not going to follow his judgmental lead? You're kidding right? There was no arrogance in his comment that Davies, and all others, should have a second chance.

    I think the support for Davies from the basketball team and BYU community at large has been awesome.

    But I still struggle with the timing of the suspension that inevitably resulted in publicity and public humiliation that virtually no other BYU student has to endure.

    It should not matter that the public "verdict" has turned out to be favorable to BYU... good or bad publicity should not have been a factor in the decision. There would have been no way to eliminate all publicity but the spotlight would have been much, much dimmer if the decision had been deferred until April. Better that BYU deal with charges that they swept the situation under the rug than hang this burden on this young man.

    We are going down the wrong path if we use the public response as a yardstick for what is right or wrong.

  • Cats Somewhere in Time, UT
    March 8, 2011 12:35 p.m.

    Dear DRay: Actually, we don't really know what the honor code violation was. We all know what we think it was(and we're probably right) but neither the school nor Brandon has announced what it was. So we can't make the assumption that there is even a young lady involved in this.

    I just have to say that I am more proud of BYU than I have ever been. I grew up in Provo and graduated from BYU. I have always been very proud of that and consider my time at BYU to be one of the greatest blessings of my life. But, I am more proud now than ever.

    BYU has become an elite school, a powerhouse in sports, but more importantly, has maintained this standard of honor. That's greater than anything.

  • The Rock Federal Way, WA
    March 8, 2011 12:31 p.m.

    When I was very young I defied my mother. When she spanked me I told her "You can't make me cry." And she couldn't. I was under eight and she didn't have the heart to hit me hard enough (and I desparately needed it).

    My father heard about this when he got home and he changed my attitude. I understood that I did have to obey my parents. Yes, it was painful at the time.

    My dad later said; "I couldn't let you win that one or you would never win again in your life."

    The Cougs are winners on the court.

    They are winners off the court.
    Brandon is a winner too. He has done something that I don't think that I could ever have the strength to do. It is hard enough to confess your sins in private. I could not immagine having to do so with a national audience. That is rough for a 19 year old.

    The team will continue to win without Brandon, and Brandon will be back, to win and win and win again.

  • bustahrounds Lehi, UT
    March 8, 2011 12:18 p.m.

    I like that Tebow, who has long touted his "holier than thou" image to the media is condemning BYU for sticking to the same standards that he (Tebow) claims to preach. Regardless, I'm not going to follow Tebow's lead and I can't judge him for shooting his mouth or being judgmental. Instead, I'm going to wish Davies the best as he prepares for another chapter in his life. I'm sure that this has been a very painful lesson given it is being played out in the public eye. But Wesley, Reno Mahe and others like them who went through the same trial in the media can use this as a positive motivator to becoming a stronger individual. Good luck Davies!

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    March 8, 2011 11:51 a.m.

    This is a very tough time for Brandon but hopefully he is seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. Kudos to Mikeli. We really need him and want him to play for BYU next year but he needs to overcome this trial more. This has turned into a huge amount of positive publicity for BYU and the LDS church. I am sure we would all rather it had not happened but I have not seen negative from any credible person or institution. It is too bad that people like Tebow or Stoudemire shoot their mouths off before they know what is going on. This is by far the best way to handle it for Davies and he is the #1 concern.
    Great job BYU and Dave Rose.

  • whoisjohngalt Holladay, UT
    March 8, 2011 11:45 a.m.

    Life is a roller-coaster ride. Brandon Davies will be a wiser and stronger man from this trial. We love you Brandon. Go Cougs!

  • Lincoln Coug Lincoln, NE
    March 8, 2011 11:39 a.m.

    I'm proud of BYU for sticking to their standards. The ultimate mission of BYU is to assist individuals in their quest for perfection and eternal life. There is no place for a double standard. Kudos to Wesley for supporting Davies through this difficult time.

  • DEW Cougars Sandy, UT
    March 8, 2011 11:33 a.m.

    Mekeli brother was hoping to go to BYU but BYU didn't have any scholorship for him. I did forget that Mekeli had a HC issue which was long forgotten.

  • Two Cents Springville, Utah
    March 8, 2011 11:29 a.m.

    Nice of Wesley to lend a hand and heart. Good job.

    Davies has to know that he is loved. No question about that if you were at Saturday's game. God bless all of us...we're all sinners.

  • DRay Roy, UT
    March 8, 2011 11:25 a.m.

    While I support all that has been done at BYU for Brandon Davies and the B-ball team, I can't help but wonder, what about the young lady involved? Is she also being given support, etc. Of course she is not in the public eye as much as was Brandon, so should be dealt with privately, but no less honorably and helpfully as he has been.

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    March 8, 2011 11:20 a.m.

    It's nice to have a friend who's been there to lean on. With Mekeli Wesley's help and that of a lot of other people, Brandon Davies will be back.

  • Idaho guy Meridian, ID
    March 8, 2011 11:15 a.m.

    Wasn't even aware that Mekeli Wesley had a honor code violation. Knew he was a stand up guy and a great bball player. Wish his brother Tai had come to BYU. Can't wait to see Davies back in uniform in the future. Go Cougs! Jimmer!