Utah Utes football: Kyle Whittingham says spring practice is 'all about us'

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  • mr. j Cottonwood Hts., Ut
    March 8, 2011 11:33 p.m.

    I was worried about Wynn in a spread this year but now that its Chow time, i think Wynn will be the man! He's a great qb but he aint no spread qb. He's a pocket qb who will now be part of a pocket offense so look out!!!

  • BlueHusky Mission Viejo, CA
    March 8, 2011 10:40 p.m.

    The Utes will be very surprised at how hard it is to win on the road in the PAC12. The MTN had three good teams last year; the PAC will have 6 minimum. I don't think Utah will be one of them.

  • fresnogirl Fresno, CA
    March 8, 2011 9:45 p.m.

    Coach Whit rocks. The Utes are gonna be just fine. I can't wait to see the Utes surprise the Pac members. That's gonna be just plain fun to watch.

    I'm also hoping, now that we are not in the same Conference, that we can be more supportive of one another. After all, we truly are brother schools -- with the same founding father. Not many schools can say that.

    Go Cougs! Go Utes!

  • Bo Jangles Meridian, ID
    March 8, 2011 8:26 p.m.


    MiP stole my thunder (very well done too) do you do much research before making such ridiculous posts?

  • pocyUte Pocatello, ID
    March 8, 2011 7:53 p.m.


    I agree with you, the rumormongering is ridiculous. I was just busting your chops, block U, though a blog is much different than a message board.

    As for why Wynn played, I can only speculate, and I've heard tons of speculation from people close to the program, but obviously not from the 2 people who know (Whit and Wynn). My guess is it was a mixture of Wynn playing down the injury, and Whit feeling that a partially effective Wynn gave the Utes a better chance of winning than a 100% Cain.

    FWIW, I think Heaps is a very good QB and would love to have him in the program. Like Cougar Claws said, I think Wynn's struggles last year were a combination of injury, defenses having film on him, mentally scarring from TCU, and then an offense that didn't really cater to his strengths.

  • SoCalUte Trabuco Canyon, CA
    March 8, 2011 7:31 p.m.

    @ almost everyone who has posted Take note: He who drives by looking through the rear view mirror ends up going backward. My sights are looking to this coming season, so all of this Wynn vs Heaps gargbage is worthless information.
    The past does Not equal the future.
    My money is on the Utes going forward.

  • Truth Machine Salt Lake City, UT
    March 8, 2011 7:30 p.m.


    How have the Utes fared in road games against PAC 10 teams with winning records? (not neutral sites, but real road games played on the home field of the opponent)

  • Jeff ls Farr West, 84404
    March 8, 2011 7:27 p.m.

    Why do all of the professional cherpers have to start their cherping before the season even starts. Utah always comes up with great defensive players. This year is going to be a challenge. It will be fun to see Kyle work his magic. Offense will be more interesting. I am a BYU fan but I watch as many Utah Football games as the best Utah fans. I want Kyle to succeed. He is a great coach. As for the QB's. Both are young and have a lot to learn. I think watching as the season progresses will tell the story. Oh, by the way I heard Heaps had 10 tough downs the other day in 7 on 7 drills. Apo is a new toy with great speed. I am sure you will get to know them real quick in Sept. Here is hoping neither team will have nasty injury problems. You will need all the players you can get in the cheap shot PAC 10+2

  • MiP Iowa City, IA
    March 8, 2011 7:04 p.m.

    I'm going to take a cue from fresnogirl (refrain from spreading rumors as facts) and correct a previous poster...a cougar fan no-less.

    "Face it, [the] Utes have not matched up that well against PAC-10 opponents."

    Hmmm. How bout I face this: reality.

    -Oregon St. (last played in 2008, Utah WON 31-28, avenging a loss the year previously*)
    -Oregon (last played 2009, Oregon won 31-24*, Utah won their previous match-up in 2004)
    -Arizona (last played in 2005, Utah WON 27-24---Utah also won the year previously too in Tucson 23-6*)
    -Arizona St. (?)
    -UCLA (last played in 2007, Utah WON 44-6 ---the Bruins were ranked #11, venging a loss the year previously)
    -USC (last played in 2001, Utah WON 10-6*)
    -Cal (last played in 2009, Utah WON 37-27*, Utah also beat Cal the match-up previously 31-24 in '03)
    -Washingon St. (last played in 2000, Utes lost 21-38, Utah won the year before 27-7*)
    -Stanford (last played in 1996, Utes won 17-10*)
    -Washington (?)
    -Colorado (last played in 1962...lol, Utah won 37-21)

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    March 8, 2011 6:18 p.m.

    "I'm sure a lot of folks are sweating bullets."

    Drones the troll voice from beneath his bubble of delusion in Michigan.

    Panic is setting in up on hill.

    We don't have a quarterback. BYU has a great quarterball, lets take him.

    We don't have a basketball coach. BYU has a great coach, lets take him.

    Dreams on! It's not going to happen.

  • pocyUte Pocatello, ID
    March 8, 2011 5:40 p.m.


    And if you think that throwing a football through a hoop is anything like reading a defense, throwing to a moving target, while being chased by 300 lb lineman, then you don't know that much about football either.

    I'm not saying it isn't important to be accurate as a quarterback. I'm not saying it isn't an impressive feat. What I am saying is, that Jake Heaps throwing a football through a basketball hoop from the 10th row and 99 cents will still only get you a 32 oz. soda. It may only take 89 cents if they are on sale. It doesn't make him a great quarterback or serve as an indicator of his future All-american, or as the litmus test for passing ability as Scenicview intimated in his initial statement.

  • pocyUte Pocatello, ID
    March 8, 2011 5:34 p.m.


    first of all Block U is not run by the school, it is a property of sportsblog in association with CBSsports. So to say it is "Utah's own publication," is flat out wrong.

    Now, a very reputable news source, which I and many others like to refer to as "ESPN" reported, "Wynn initially hurt his shoulder in Utah's 68-27 win over Iowa State on Oct. 9."

    Now, you say his throwing was unaffected. That's you opinion. In my opinion, having seen every game which Wynn has played in, and most of them live, is that his throwing was definitely affected. As a freshman, he could throw the ball 50 yards with some zip on it (See complete offense at TCU in '09)

    However, in 2010 it looked like he was stuggling to get the ball 30-40 yards down the field.

    The fact is, neither of us know how much he was affected by the injury. You will have your opinion of him, and I will have mine. I just think it is important to look at all the facts involving situation, and some that you have cited are incorrect.

  • Qwest Perfected Salt Lake City, UT
    March 8, 2011 5:29 p.m.

    All these comparisons between Wynn and Heaps are meaningless.

    I'm one Utah fan that would love to have Heaps on our team. I'm just hoping that some of the rumors that I hear about him are true and maybe he will be on our team if the honor code strikes again.

    As for what this article is talking about - I'm excited for the first season in the PAC 12!!! I hope we can compete well and go to a bowl game - no matter what else is said, we are part of something great. I can't wait to see teams like USC, UCLA and Oregon on a regular basis. No more trips to Laramie or preparing against the cut blocks of AFA. Even if we are middle of the PAC, it's a huge step forward.

    I love hearing all the excuses from coog fans though as to why they lost. Keep them coming.

    Kyle will have this team ready to compete just like he does every year.

    Go Utes!!!

  • CG Orem, UT
    March 8, 2011 5:17 p.m.

    Naval Vet

    Your stats prove nothing!

    Heaps was playing much better than Wynn by the end of the season.

    BYU 5-1 in their last 6 games, including that all-important bowl win, which, for Utah fans, is always the end all, be all of the college football season, regardless of how the regular season went.

    Utah 3-3 in their last 6 games, including 3 humiliating losses and 3 lucky wins.

    btw, I noticed you didn't post Heaps QB for the 6 games. That, of course, would have totally destroyed that point of your carefully chosen stats.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    March 8, 2011 5:13 p.m.

    "although I think Shreve could be pretty special."


    I secretly agree. Let's see how things go in spring practice but I think the name Shreve is going to be discussed in great detail this fall.

  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    March 8, 2011 5:03 p.m.


    If you don't understand the correlation between being able to throw an extremely accurate pass and being a great quarterback, then you obviously don't know as much about football as you pretend to know.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    March 8, 2011 5:02 p.m.

    CordonBleu (3 of 3):

    Freshman year FIRST 6 games:
    vs. Wyo (7-6) -- 137.06
    vs. UNM (1-11) -- 169.81
    @ TCU (12-1) -- 111.55
    vs. SDSU (4-8) -- 120.28
    @ ybU (11-2) -- 86.91
    Poinsettia Bowl vs. Cal (8-5) -- 173.03

    Opponent record: 43-33 (0.566)

    vs. UWa. (7-6) -- 104.37
    @ AFA (9-4) -- 21.00
    @ FSU (10-4) -- 89.92
    Vs. UNR (13-1) -- 96.08
    @ USU (4-8) -- 84.59
    vs. SDSU (9-4) -- 107.20

    Opponent record: 52-27 (0.658)

    If you think its fair to compare QB productivity scores between one school playing against 0.708 competition, with the other lining up against a 0.333, then I think it would be even MORE equitable to measure Wynns 0.566 vs. Heaps 0.658. And in the case of Freshman year FIRST 6 games....once again, its Wynn, hands-down the winner.

    Edge: Wynn.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    March 8, 2011 5:00 p.m.

    CordonBleu (2 of 3):

    Do you think that its possible that Heaps QB-rating improvement over his last 6-games MIGHT have had more to do with facing only ONE team with a winning record, rather than demonstrating any REAL personal growth?

    Heres a couple OTHER looks at a valid comparison(s):

    2010 Head-to-Head:
    CSU: Wynn-206.43, Heaps-242.64.....Edge: Heaps
    AFA: Wynn-124.92, Heaps-21.00.....Edge: Wynn
    Wyo: Wynn-143.98, Heaps-100.58.....Edge: Wynn
    TCU: Wynn-79.24, Heaps-58.81.....Edge: Wynn
    SDSU: Wynn-175.78, Heaps-107.20.....Edge: Wynn

    Wynn WINS!

    Freshman year Head-to-Head:
    Wyo: Wynn-137.06, Heaps-100.58.....Edge: Wynn
    UNM: Wynn-169.81, Heaps-137.51.....Edge: Wynn
    TCU: Wynn-111.55, Heaps-58.81.....Edge: Wynn
    SDSU: Wynn-120.28, Heaps-107.20.....Edge: Wynn

    Wynn WINS again!

    Wynn ALSO wins the POSTSEASON head-to-head by beating 8-5 Cal in the Poinsettia Bowl with a 173.03 QB rating to Heaps 171.70 rating vs. a lower quality opponent in 6-7 UTEP.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    March 8, 2011 4:57 p.m.

    CordonBleu (1 of 3):

    "The only valid comparison is the 2nd half of the season when both quarterbacks were playing at their best."

    I wouldn't exactly consider that a "valid comparison". A "valid comparison" would show that in the final 6 games of each teams' seasons:

    (1) 2009 Wynn (Freshman year) -- QB rating 130.75
    vs. Wyo (7-6) -- 137.06
    vs. UNM (1-11) -- 169.81
    @ TCU (12-1) -- 111.55
    vs. SDSU (4-8) -- 120.28
    @ ybU (11-2) -- 86.91
    Poinsettia Bowl vs. Cal (8-5) -- 173.03

    Opponent record: 43-33 (0.566)

    (2) 2010 Wynn -- QB rating 139.85
    @ AFA (9-4) -- 124.92
    vs. TCU (13-0) -- 79.24
    @ ND (8-5) -- 98.19
    @ SDSU (9-4) -- 175.78
    vs. ybU (7-6) -- 103.38

    Opponent record: 46-19 (0.708)

    (3) 2010 Heaps (Freshman year) -- QB rating 116.16
    vs. Wyo (3-9) -- 100.58
    vs. UNLV (2-11) -- 162.25
    @ CSU (3-9) -- 242.64
    vs. UNM (1-11) -- 137.51
    @ Utah (10-3) -- 114.73
    NM Bowl vs. UTEP (6-7) -- 171.70

    Opponent record: 25-50 (0.333)

  • CaptainCougar Sandy, Utah
    March 8, 2011 4:49 p.m.


    I agree with your comments. A spread offense needs an athletic, mobile QB. I guess I was just looking at the rest of the offense. In past Ute seasons ('06,'08) it would have been difficult to get all those receivers off the field. But, with the addition of Langi, a pro-style offense makes sense.

    As far as Wynn goes, in my humble as pie opinion, it was probably a mixture of injury, nerves and confidence. Heaps made some mistakes early in his career and seemed to work through those. Wynn had a great freshman season and seemed to stumble once he started making mistakes and people started second guessing him. The injury probably added to all of that. He was also looking over his shoulder at Cain at the end of the season. The perfect storm for a lack of confidence. I'm sure we'll see an improved Wynn this next year, although I think Shreve could be pretty special.

    Should be fun to watch both teams! (Yes, I can admit that as a Coug)

  • --JEFFE-- Cedar City, UT
    March 8, 2011 4:28 p.m.


    Wynn may have gotten beat up against ISU, but he was never sidelined, which would indicate the injury was not too serious. It just sounds like a poor excuse for his awful performances against TCU, ND, and BYU.

    Utah's own publication "Block U" said this:

    "Wynn's injury happened sometime this week and did not play a role in his struggles against the Cougars Saturday."

    The fact is Wynn was healthy enough to be on the field and his throwing seemed unaffected by the injury, so I doubt the injury was severe enough to make a difference. K-Whitt probably just wanted there to be some excuse for the beating they received by TCU and ND, and BSU. In which Utah was outscored 101-13.
    Utah needed to regain some credibility on their way to the PAC.

    The truth is Wynn is a mediocre QB. He reached his full potential as a Sophmore,his skill and game performance have not progressed. I truly do wish the best for Utah football in the future in all but 1 game each season.. But that fact is, no offense, especially under Norm Chow, is successful without a great QB.

  • pocyUte Pocatello, ID
    March 8, 2011 4:14 p.m.

    Capt. Coug

    I think your comment about Heaps and Wynn were pretty accurate, however, at the end of last season, most people would have thought Wynn was on the fast-track to stud-dom. I was disappointed in his performances in big games, but I don't know how much of that is from injury vs. Wynn's inborn limitations as a qb.

    I respectfully disagree with you asessement on the Utah offense changing, however. The spread needs a qb who can run, and Wynn just can't. DE's never had to respect the option read because they knew they could tackle the running back and still get up and tackle Wynn for a loss. That isn't a knock on Wynn, it was a coaching error by putting Wynn in an untenable situation. Wynn is definitely cut out better of a west coast style of offense.

  • pocyUte Pocatello, ID
    March 8, 2011 4:04 p.m.


    please explain to me how throwing a ball through a hoop translates to success on a football field. So yes, I'm still laughing.

    also, please show me in my statement where I said anything about Utah beating USC. In fact, I didn't touch on that issue at all.

    I was merely pointing out that Jeffe was wrong in his statement that Wynn's injury occurred after the BYU game, and expressing the chuckle that I got from scenic views statement. Hey, Papa John hit a half court shot, but I don't see him in the NBA.

  • --JEFFE-- Cedar City, UT
    March 8, 2011 4:02 p.m.


    Wynn started the last 6 games for the Utes in 2009, and 10 games in 2010. Not to mention Wynn had the entire off season to study films and learn the Offense, took the majority of the reps in Spring and fall camps heading into the 2010 season, and had most of the offensive playmakers returning for 2010.

    Compare that to:

    Heaps arrived on campus January 2010, split reps with Riley Nelson, and James Lark in Spring camp. Split reps with Riley Nelson through fall camp and the first 4 games of the season under the ridiculous 2 QB system. Had no big time players returning for 2010.

    And as far as a freshman Wynn taking BYU to overtime in 2009 and losing, the same could be said about Freshman Jake Heaps burning a highly-touted Utah D for 238 yards in the air and only losing by 1 point after a horrible blotched call by the officials, and a miracle field goal block. Jake put BYU in the position for the upset.

    The comparison between Heaps and Wynn is not even close my friend.
    Heaps will be a great at BYU. Wynn will be forgotten in 5yrs.

  • CaptainCougar Sandy, Utah
    March 8, 2011 3:37 p.m.

    Wow, some of these comments are very immature.

    Good luck in spring ball Utes. Hopefully Wynn heals up quickly and you guys represent our state in the new Pac 12! It'll be interesting to see how the offense shapes up with Chow at the helm. Personally, I thought the spread offense was the best system for your strengths, because you had so much speed to spread the ball around to on the field.

    As far as the Heaps argument, Wynn is a great quarterback, but NOBODY who watched that game would say Wynn was better than Heaps. That being said, the Utes won the game and obviously football is about more than just the QB.

    I can't believe spring ball is here!!

    Go Cougs!

  • Swoop Salt Lake City, UT
    March 8, 2011 3:23 p.m.


    You obviously haven't watched the video if you're laughing.

    Wynn is slow, injury prone and a mediocre passer at best.

    More power to U if you think you can beat USC with Wynn.

    At least the Utes have the 2nd easiest schedule in the PAC 12, so there won't be any excuses for finishing in the bottom half of the conference.

  • LonestarRunner Salt Lake City, UT
    March 8, 2011 3:07 p.m.


    Wynn had over half a season to learn the Utah offense before he stepped onto the field... BIG difference between that and Heaps starting his first game right after fall camp ended.

    From Poinsettia Bowl MVP to TCU, ND embarrassment, not exactly the kind of shining endorsement you'd hope for for your starting QB heading into your first season in a BCS conference.

    But, if you're not worried, the Utes should be fine. Afterall, hedgehog, you're famous for your prognostication skills.

    btw, Heaps outplayed the more experienced Wynn, and the Cougars would have won if Anae hadn't decided to go ultra-conservative with his play calling after Jake had moved BYU inside Utah's 20 on 4 of 5 passing with plenty of time left to score a TD.

  • pocyUte Pocatello, ID
    March 8, 2011 2:59 p.m.


    Wynn hurt his shoulder in the ISU game. In practice after the BYU hit dislocated for the 2nd time and he had to have surgery, but, the original shoulder injury was ISU.

    Scenic view,

    The minute football is played on a bball court without receivers or defenders, I will stop laughing at your comment.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    March 8, 2011 2:21 p.m.

    "Wynn- Sophmore- Had a year in the program to learn the system with 6 games experience under his belt heading into the 2010 season."


    just so you know, Wynne has played in only 4 more games than Heeps. And if we're now taking in last year let's not forget the "freshman "Wynn" with 3 games under his belt took the tds to overtime... followed that up with a MVP performance against CAl.

    On a sidenot: Thee Ohio State looks like they're in the market for a new coach...I would guess Kwhitt get's a call later this week .... and declines the offer yet again.

  • CG Orem, UT
    March 8, 2011 1:41 p.m.

    How about broken ribs hedgy?

    Heaps played most of the Utah game with a dislocated rib, and still outperformed Wynn head-to-head.

  • --JEFFE-- Cedar City, UT
    March 8, 2011 1:28 p.m.


    You always conveniently leave out the most important variables to your arguments and comparisons.

    Wynn- Sophmore- Had a year in the program to learn the system with 6 games experience under his belt heading into the 2010 season.

    Heaps- Freshman- Arrived on campus spring of 2010, split the reps at QB until the 4th game of the season.

    If you compare Wynn's and Heaps freshman highlights, Heaps owns Wynn. 2,313yds to 1,329, 15td's to 8.

    And lets look at the head to head for the BYU vs. Utah game.
    Wynn- 13/30 199yds 1TD 1int Rating:103.38

    Heaps-22/37 238yds 1TD 1int Rating:114.73

    Also, Wynn's injury was sustained in practice the week after the Y game. Check it.
    However, Heaps was playing with broken ribs against the Utes.

    The problem with Wynn is he just hasn't progressed. He is small, un-athletic, and clearly intimidated on the field. Not to mention his already minimal skills will take a hit due to this injury to his throwing arm. Hopefully one of the other QB's steps up or its gonna be ugly in the PAC.

  • utahcountyute Cedar Hills, UT
    March 8, 2011 1:17 p.m.

    Looks like Kwitt is already moving and blending the team to perform better next year. Finding the best player for each position is what he does best.

    Can't wait and....

    Go Utes!

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    March 8, 2011 1:02 p.m.

    ". The only valid comparison is the 2nd half of the season when both quarterbacks were playing at their best."


    Ok, let's try again.

    Does your anaylisis include similar competition? how about shoulder surgery?

    Maybe the true analysis is inconclusive. But to chest pound that Heaps is heisman worthy and that Wynn is trash.... well, as I say ... simply delusional.

  • scenic view Baltimore, MD
    March 8, 2011 12:52 p.m.



    Utah fans also thought that Henderson was better than Jimmer last year.

    Heaps will be an All-American before he's finished his career at BYU.

    Check out the video at PlanetBYU of Heaps passing a football through the basketball hoop from the 10th row in the Marriott Center ON HIS FIRST ATTEMPT.

    I don't see anybody on Utah's roster that even comes close to that kind of passing ability.

  • Cougar Claws Lindon, UT
    March 8, 2011 12:42 p.m.

    TDS troll here (not really here to troll, just to comment)

    As much as I hate to admit it, the Utes have proven that they can reload on defense. I crossed my fingers last year after the Utes only returned 3 starters from the previous year's defense hoping that they would finally be weak, but you proved me wrong, congratulations. I also didn't think that a good defensive line would matter if the entire back seven were only good-to-average. I was proven wrong again. (Stupid good Ute defensive line)!

    So time will tell how Utah fares in the Pac-12, but until further notice, it looks like Utah will continually field good defenses. I will say this, that the toughest defenses in the league will wear down if the QB has problems or if there isn't at least a steady running back that can keep the offense on the field. I'm surprised how well you guys held up against Boise State because it seems like the Utes couldn't convert a first down to save their lives. But, Boise only scored 26 points. It should have been way more.

    Good luck this spring!

  • CordonBleu Park City, UT
    March 8, 2011 12:39 p.m.


    Only someone who lives under a bubble of delusion in Michigan would think that comparing a true freshman quarterback who was splitting time with another quarterback, with a full-time starter, would give you a valid comparison of the two quarterbacks.

    Skywalker was correct. The only valid comparison is the 2nd half of the season when both quarterbacks were playing at their best.

    If Wynn performed poorly in the face of good competition, that's more of an indictment of his quarterbacking abilities heading into the PAC 12 where the competition will be stiffer every week.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    March 8, 2011 12:37 p.m.

    "You're a little over-optimistic expecting high school numbers to translate to college level performance."


    I think we'll all be pleasently suprised at how well both the QB's do in spring practice. But no question about it, the Utes will need to have Wynn ready to go next fall... at least for a few games.

  • UoU 1991 Park City, UT
    March 8, 2011 12:14 p.m.


    You're a little over-optimistic expecting high school numbers to translate to college level performance.

    Until we see how these new quarterbacks perform in the face of a blitzing USC linebacker, it's impossible to predict whether any of Utah's QBs will be effective in the PAC 12.

    Wynn had lots of issues in the second half of last season and nobody knows how he's going to perform coming back from shoulder surgery.

    Utah's QB situation is more precarious this year than it's been in many years.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    March 8, 2011 12:01 p.m.

    "Compare the last 6 games of the season, when Heaps was the full-time starter and Jake was starting to find his rhythm versus the last 6 games of Wynn's sophomore year."


    one word... FAIL.

    Somehow you left out quality of opponent didn't you? How about an injury that required sugery? No? not valid for your little anaylsis? LOL.

    No, the best way to compare both QB's is to look at the season as a whole... and before you start Yning that Heaps didn't play all the games... nether did Wynn.


    Higher QB rating - Wynn
    Higher head to head- Wynn

  • skywalker Palo Alto, CA
    March 8, 2011 11:46 a.m.


    Sorry, your analysis of Wynn and Heaps:


    Compare the last 6 games of the season, when Heaps was the full-time starter and Jake was starting to find his rhythm versus the last 6 games of Wynn's sophomore year.

    Heaps' stats were MUCH better than Wynn's.

    It's hillarious that you compare Wynn's high school numbers with the high school numbers of Utah's other QB's, but avoid comparing them with Heaps' high school number. It's obvious why you wouldn't want to do that.

    Bottom line is Utah fans would give their eye-teeth, and every QB on Utah's roster, to have Heaps starting for the Utes next season.

    btw, your 2nd grade level name calling just makes your arguments look, well, 2nd grade level.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    March 8, 2011 11:09 a.m.

    "How well the defense plays won't matter if the Utes don't have a quarterback"


    You like to bang this drum don't you.

    Let's review once again for ya - K?

    Based on what you said, I'm assuming you don't think much about Heaps; He has a lower QB rating than Wynn and lost in his only head to head. Infact Wynn won the game with one arm. Heaps couldn't beat a one armed QB?

    Also, I might add, that both Ute QB's available this spring were both rated higher than wynn comming out of high school. Both have bigger arms. both are more mobile, both ar bigger than Wynn.

    And finally, a new offesive system is being installed.. making Wynns experience less painful not having for spring.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    March 8, 2011 10:47 a.m.

    Well until the "bitterness and jealousy" subsides it's going to be darn difficult to become a Ute fan this first season or two.

    Sure a 10-3 season is a very good season but those 3 losses were just miserable. So how does a 10-3 season in the MWC and Las Vegas Bowl convert in a stronger conference???

    Nothing wrong with optimism but when fans start flaunting the BCS card and how succesful the Utes are going to be this coming season I just don't buy it.

    Face it, Utes have not matched up that well against PAC-10 opponents. Just doubt that changing a few players and going into a stronger conference is going yield the same W / L record. Doesn't make sense but stranger things have happened.

  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    March 8, 2011 10:32 a.m.


    How well the defense plays won't matter if the Utes don't have a quarterback.

  • ute4ever West Jordan, UT
    March 8, 2011 10:23 a.m.

    Ohhh man, I can not wait for the next month to eat up the football news. I've got my season tickets renewed and am roaring to go. Too bad the Jazz stink, so basketball season is no fun this year to carry me at least until the summer. Six more months until football again.....please come quickly!!!

    I'm excited to see how the depth chart unfolds!!

  • Solomon Levi Alpine, UT
    March 8, 2011 10:07 a.m.


    "we are in a conference. A BCS conference. We can get into the BCS without running the table anymore."

    So can Arizona, Iowa St, Baylor, Duke, Vanderbilt, Indiana, ... the list goes on and on. "Can" doesn't mean U ever "will".

    Every BCS conference needs bottom feeders to help the elite teams pad their records.

  • WhoAmISir Holladay, UT
    March 8, 2011 10:00 a.m.

    Amen to that fresnogirl. There are "fans?" on both sides that these boards could do with without.

    Who Am I Sir? A UTAH man am I!

  • fresnogirl Fresno, CA
    March 8, 2011 9:48 a.m.


    Tommy says something classy and nice and there you go acting all juvenile. Oh brother!

  • MCH1056 Murray, UT
    March 8, 2011 9:35 a.m.

    Tommy2Shoes: Unlike your team down south, we are in a conference. A BCS conference. We can get into the BCS without running the table anymore. Not that I wouldn't love going undefeated.

  • Tommy2Shoes Lehi, UT
    March 8, 2011 9:13 a.m.

    Good coaching now pays off in September. Glad we get you at our place in Provo this year. Good luck in your new league. Hope you represent our state very well. Can't really hate a team that has so many ties to my Cougars, but hope you at least have one loss.

  • What's up? Salt Lake City, UT
    March 8, 2011 5:57 a.m.

    Need to change the subject as fast as we can from basketball. Go Utes,