No. 2 BYU rugby tops No. 6 Utah

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  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    March 7, 2011 8:26 p.m.

    No idea if what hymn says is true or not but even if it is his comment about BYU bringing in "ringers" to beat utah is ridiculous. If BYU is able to provide their rugby players with some level of subsidy then good for them. That is what happens when your athletic department runs in the black and brings in almost 50% more revenue.

    My uncle played rugby at BYU back in the 70's. I was a kid growing up in San Jose and my Dad and I went up to watch them play Cal in Berkley. Even then both of those programs were top programs so it's no wonder they are both still good.

  • Real Bass Idaho Falls, ID
    March 7, 2011 6:09 p.m.

    Great time to be a cougar fan!

  • hymn to the silent Holladay, UT
    March 7, 2011 5:09 p.m.

    Rugby is governed by USA Rugby, but academic standards from the NCAA apply. Some schools give scholarships specifically for rugby if they have enough of an endowment, some teams are varsity sports, some are not. Utah is one of the few remaining that is not, but they are working on getting the status. Varsity status basically gives you better access to fields and equipment. BYU has their own facilities because they are Varsity status. Utah shares their field with the frisbeee club because they are not. Utah players pay their way, Cal players pay little to nothing, BYU is in the middle. BYU finds scholarships (private school status lets them define financial need a little broader) although they're scholarships are specifically rugby, they do find tuition money for players they want (not a rumor or bitter, ask some of the islanders and the kids from South Africa) The good thing about being non-varsity status is that a club has more control over the money they raise and can offer more scholarships since a percentage doesn't go to the University. Love a healthy donation for scholarships to the Utes...Mr. Weddle, Mr. Weddle...

  • ironrod Cedar Hills, UT
    March 7, 2011 2:30 p.m.

    Thank goodness the NCAA has nothing to do with Rugby. They would ruin it.
    It is a Club sport governed by USA Rugby. Any Club can recruit unfortunately there are no Scholarships and the players have to qualify with the Schools just like every other student, no preferences. There are some schools that have large Endowments like Cal's and the Ivy league schools that help support the players. It would be nice to have that at BYU and Utah. Maybe when I win the Lottery...:)

  • Cali Coug Visalia, CA
    March 7, 2011 2:10 p.m.

    Will the beating ever stop? All I ever read is BYU beats utah, again and again and again!

  • foxkids2000 Tracy, CA
    March 7, 2011 1:17 p.m.

    Great win by BYU. They are definitively in a position to challenge Cal for the national championship this year. The local Rio Tinto venue will be a comfortable place for BYU. Although the Stueber Rugby Stadium is nice, Rio Tinto will be incredible and we will need to pack the place to give the Cougars a real home field advantage.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    March 7, 2011 9:08 a.m.

    @Mormon Ute

    I don't think they give scholarships for it which just made hymn's comments all the more ridiculous. But I still think they can recruit. But Utah definately has a top team and competes well with anyone.

  • Mormon Ute Kaysville, UT
    March 7, 2011 8:59 a.m.

    I thought this was a club sport for both schools, which would make offering scholarships a violation of NCAA rules.

    In any case, I think Utah competes just fine. With BYU and all the other programs nationally.

    Go Utes!! There's plenty of season left to make up for the loss.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    March 7, 2011 6:35 a.m.


    "I hate that they bring in ringers to beat the utes"

    Another bitter ute huh? You realize utah can recruit internationally as well don't you? Or isn't that pac10 windfall enough to allow for it? Did you feel that way when bogut and neville were playing basketball for the utes or is it just selective outrage when BYU recruits internationally?

  • Y4LYFE Lubbock, TX
    March 6, 2011 11:30 p.m.

    They split the games. BYU won the wasatch, utah won the second time they met though.

  • hymn to the silent Holladay, UT
    March 6, 2011 5:18 p.m.

    Utah did win last year. And think of a bunch of white guys putting head dresses on and dancing a war dance before a football game...a sight reserved for ward talent night. (or the Ute mascot years ago) With the new league, and the new alignments, Rugby is getting better and better. High school now fields its own teams, 19 and under field teams. The warriors semi-pro team is in town....BYU scholarships kids from the islands and from South Africa...while I hate that they can bring in ringers to beat the Utes, I love that the competition gets better and better. Great teams coming out of the East coast this year, more coaches from Europe coaching in the U.S. Cal gets better, but so does the competition. They've been beaten twice in three years: BYU and Utah. And Cal has a 40 million dollar endowment. Give the sport five years and we'l be able to compete with clubs around the world (not the national teams, that could still be a ways off). The game is a lot more fun than football and it's only getting better.

    March 6, 2011 4:15 p.m.

    I am a huge BYU fan, and would love to say that BYU has won six straight, but if I'm not mistaken didn't utah win the game last year? I disagree about the HAKA
    I love it, and I think that it belongs in Rugby.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    March 6, 2011 1:25 p.m.

    I've really gained an appreciation for this sport over the last few years. It is exciting and full of physical play. Hymn is correct this is the state to be in if you're a fan of college, and for that matter high school, rugby. Great teams at BYU and utah make for great games when they play each other.

  • tom2 Jerome, ID
    March 6, 2011 1:23 p.m.

    I commend fans of both sides for the comments thus far. I see only respect for the opponent and support for their team. If only football and basketball fans could emulate...

  • Y4LYFE Lubbock, TX
    March 6, 2011 1:12 p.m.


    The wasatch cup is a cool matchup. I do love BYUs field but playing in Real's building is neat. There will be some big-time rugby match-ups shortly.

  • hymn to the silent Holladay, UT
    March 6, 2011 12:41 p.m.

    A fine game...BYU moved the ball very well, the backs were Utes front pack did well, but not enough spark in the back line. So congrats Blue on a game well played. Now would you please get rid of the silly's embarrassing to watch a fine team do their impression of the folk dancers after the game. Great if it's your traditional tribal dance...a bit cheesy if you do it for cultural night. All in all, good beat a good team in a very physical match. at one point I counted three players down while play was still on. Utah is THE place for college rugby.

  • Big Hapa Kaysville, UT
    March 6, 2011 9:58 a.m.

    Rugby is back in town and it is wearing blue and white. Nice win, nice scrum control keeping utah pinned down.

    Lets keep the fire burning, stay hungry and focussed and the National Championship will be a reality.

    Poly Cougar Nation

  • Y4LYFE Lubbock, TX
    March 6, 2011 9:05 a.m.

    Great wYn Cougs!! Can't wait to be there at the next game.

  • ike Grand Rapids, MI
    March 6, 2011 6:11 a.m.

    Good Job Cougs. Excellent trouncing of your opponent.

  • itzm3ka Midvale, Utah
    March 6, 2011 5:46 a.m.

    GOOO BYU I hope we beat every team like we did UTAH!!!