George F. Will: GOP hopefuls need to stop spewing nonsense

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  • Screwdriver Casa Grande, AZ
    March 7, 2011 2:21 p.m.

    My neighbor wants Palin for president. He says she's "HAWGHT".

    Honesty, as a Tina Fey fan I'm rooting for Palin as well.

  • Pagan Salt Lake City, UT
    March 7, 2011 1:51 p.m.

    '...Republicans' thinking about their 2012 presidential prospects, that is another reason for pessimism. This is because it indicates they do not understand that sensible Americans, who pay scant attention to presidential politics at this point in the electoral cycle, must nevertheless be detecting vibrations of weirdness emanating from people associated with the party.' - Article

    Couldn't have said it better, myself.

  • no fit in SG St.George, Utah
    March 7, 2011 11:14 a.m.

    Always returning to the same premise.......
    A decent, hard working, intelligent, well read, honest person cannot run for President of the United States.
    There is little, if any possibility of that person getting funding needed to accomplish this.

  • Twin Lights Louisville, KY
    March 7, 2011 7:37 a.m.

    @Mike Richards 10:33 a.m. March 6, 2011

    I would quibble with you about your first paragraph.

    But I am with you all the way on the rest.

    Reminds me of a song. "Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right".

    Your comment regarding our needing a true Statesman is correct. They are, unfortunately, in very short supply as they are folks who put the interests of the country above their own and that of their party.

    I truly pray we find such people.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    March 6, 2011 10:57 p.m.

    Mike Richards | 4:27 p.m. March 6, 2011
    South Jordan, Utah


    You go Mike....
    This letter by George Will was a curtain call for you and your types.

  • facts_r_stubborn Kaysville, UT
    March 6, 2011 7:14 p.m.

    This is a well grounded editorial by George Will. Direct quotes from masters at personal ad-hominem attacks, Mike and Newt.

    Looking at the historical record, whenever either party moves to the extreme fringes of their ranks, we know that a sea change is about to occur. Americans may associate with a party, but we generally like solutions and real results ahead of conspiracy theories and utopian dreams. We are inherently practical and pragmatic.

    Those on the far right are mistaken if they think the country is moving to where they are. We are simply reacting to a weak economy, and a failure of a lurch to the left to solve the problems of rising deficits, a lackluster jobless recovery, and exponentially increasing health care costs.

    However, I agree with some comments from the left that the far right is sowing the seeds of the next Republican implosion.

    The people do not want wild ideological swings from right to left and back again. They want fact based and well grounded solutions to the problems that vex all Americans. We are strongest when we are united in a noble cause. United we stand, divided we fall.

  • Mike Richards South Jordan, Utah
    March 6, 2011 4:27 p.m.

    Tanguero | 2:54 p.m. March 6, 2011

    Obviously, you believe that the Constitution is just a figment of the imagination.

    Mr. Obama had no authority to sign into law legislation that violated the Constitution. As a 'purported' Constitutional Scholar, he should have known that, but he didn't; or, worse, he thought that he was above the Constitution and that he could do anything that he wanted, because he occupied the chair in the Oval Office.

    Federal Judges have a way of smacking down arrogant Presidents. Mr. Obama has been 'smacked' appropriately. He will have his day in court, but unless the Supreme Court abandons its responsibility, he will have no chance of prevailing. Law is law. Mr. Obama thinks that HE can dictate law. That is not part of the Constitution. He EXECUTES the will of Congress; he does not legislate, nor does he have any authority to rule on law.

    You put party above the law. As a citizen, that is your right; but, that is what's wrong with America. Law is law. Neither YOU nor Mr. Obama has the right to change the law to fit the circumstances of your own opinion.

  • Hank Pym SLC, UT
    March 6, 2011 3:43 p.m.

    re: Gus Talwynd | 2:40 p.m. March 6, 2011

    "rational thinking is not a prerequisite for being a Republican today."

    That is arguably the most accurate & funniest thing ever posted on the DN website.

    Que one of Professor Beck's C students to try & dispute this in 5, 4, 3,...

  • Tanguero Salt Lake City, UT
    March 6, 2011 2:54 p.m.

    Re: Mike Richards | 10:33 a.m. March 6, 2011 South Jordan, Utah

    Your description of Barack Obama as an example of an bad choice adequately fits with your profile. Obviously, any Democrat, to you, is a bad choice. However, you, as a conservative Republican, would always be opposed to anyone with ideas more liberal than your own.

    As with many conservative Republicans (like with many liberal Democrats), you cannot distinguish the differnces within each group. These Right-Wing radicals, exemplified by Michelle Bachmann, Glenn Beck, and Sarah Palin (now joined by Mike Huckabee) think that anyone politically to the Left of themselves are one-and-the-same Leftists, the evil that infects America. So be it. Your opinion is noted and discarded with equal brevity.

    I'm looking forware to your next post where you get into your religious mode and play the role of prophet, seer, and revelator. It's always good to see you display your moral fibre and inveigh against the liberals and progressives.

    For now, Barack Obama is irrelevant to what is happening in the Republican Party. We'll have to see how Romney becomes Birther and confronts Huckabee in this challenge.

  • Gus Talwynd Salt Lake City, UT
    March 6, 2011 2:40 p.m.

    As everyone by now should realize, rational thinking is not a prerequisite for being a Republican today. The crazies have moved in with their psychosis and paranoia and put fear into the minds of anyone who might consider becoming the Republican candidate for president in 2012. Huckabee sees the writing on the wall and is more than willing to drink of the cup of bigotry and plunge in with both feet.

    Of course, Huckabee will not be as much fun as Sarah Palin or Michelle Bachmann in appeal to the Birthers and similar wingnuts forming the Republican core, but he's getting there. And with Glenn Beck leading the charge with his particularly brand of fearmongering and demonization of anyone with whom he disagrees, there is considerable room for Huckabee and the others to move right-ward and appeal more favorably to the reactionary extremists. It's become a question: Who is nuttier?

    This next election will be fun to watch as the rattlesnakes begin to devour their young. As Will has noted, there is no need for facts in supporting "their" arguments. Soon, many Republicans will wonder how things got to this situation. It is really crazy!

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    March 6, 2011 2:01 p.m.

    Mike Richards | 10:33 a.m. March 6, 2011

    "When a true statesman enters the arena, we'll recognize him and know that America still has a chance. Until then we'll be entertained by Mr. Obama from the Left and the various clowns who prance and dance and tell jokes from the Right."


    Pretty tall order from a straight GOP Party-line voter.

    My guess is you're a Mitt Romney supporter.

    [Mr. Universal Healthcare for everyone - including abortions, but hey - he's a Mormon and a Repubican so he has my vote.]

    How do you live with yourself Mike?

  • conservative scientist Lindon, UT
    March 6, 2011 12:58 p.m.

    Excellent article by Mr. Will. I especially like the last paragraph.

  • utahprincipal801 Sandy, UT
    March 6, 2011 12:25 p.m.

    To Mike Huckabee, Sarah Palin and all the other "patriots" out there who don't think we know the difference between the truth and hogwash: The majority of the electorate of America is not as stupid as you think we are. When you base your reasoning on blaring lies, we remember. Heaven help us, if we fall for this blathering. Fox "News" hopefully will not be our only news source before the next presidential election, and you will have to derive a source of income from somewhere other than your silly books and Fox commentary. There is a difference between fact and opinion, and when you base your opinion on such blatant, ignorant nonsense, the press still, thank goodness, brings it to light.

  • Liberal Patriot Holladay, utah
    March 6, 2011 12:09 p.m.

    Let the GOP do their thing. Give the paranoia-preaching pundits like Limbaugh and Beck get filthy-rich on their book sales and broadcasting contracts. Put the spotlight on Beck as he trashes everyone and everything all the while waving the flag until its a blur. Give them all the publicity they want in the name of "We are the only true Americans!" Then put up Palin and Gingrich or Huckabee or Beck for that matter as front-runners to lead the country. Start right now. What do you think the average American is really thinking about these types and what and how they are accomplishing?

  • Screwdriver Casa Grande, AZ
    March 6, 2011 11:17 a.m.

    "only if you understand Kenyan, anti-colonial behavior"

    Would that be much different than say the near diefied founding fathers anti-colonial behavior?

    The USA was founded on anti- british- colonialism. So Obama is just more patriotic than Huckabee. Good for him.

  • goatesnotes Kamas, UT
    March 6, 2011 11:02 a.m.

    Apparently, this batch of presidential contenders is still tone deaf to the needs.

    None has yet put forth a plan -- I mean a really serious and well-thought-out PLAN -- for short-term and long-term deficit reduction, spending limitations and systemic reform on Medicare, Medicaid and Defense (and now you can add Obamacare to the mix on entitlements).

    Polling indicates Americans love their entitlement culture. Someone needs to remind them it's over.

    When I begin to hear a serious conversation about THOSE issues, then I'll make a judgment about who should be the next POTUS. Until then, I haven't seen any signs of leadership from anyone.

    Don't give me cleverly crafted one-liners, fellas. Wake up and get serious about the topic -- JOB ONE in America -- cutting spending.

    Obama's budget was a laugher. His own blue-ribbon bi-partisan commission on debt reduction and deficit elimination made workable recommendations he completely ignored. America deserves better than what anyone has shown us so far.

    We will no longer tolerate politicians who merely kick the can down the road without realizing we are at the crossroad. Only serious candidates need apply.

    Watch for emerging leadership.

  • Mike Richards South Jordan, Utah
    March 6, 2011 10:33 a.m.

    The Left's answer was to give us Mr. Obama. Nothing more needs to be said about their ability to choose wisely. He has shown us what happens when someone without experience, someone without credentials, someone without a love for America and American dreams, sits in the Oval Office.

    Mr. Huckabee has shown that he is not qualified to sit in that chair.

    Most of those running are not qualified to sit in that chair. Their desire is to obtain power instead of desiring to fully execute the laws of this nation in the defense of the freedoms of our citizens.

    When a true statesman enters the arena, we'll recognize him and know that America still has a chance. Until then we'll be entertained by Mr. Obama from the Left and the various clowns who prance and dance and tell jokes from the Right.

  • Murray Dad Murray, UT
    March 6, 2011 10:24 a.m.

    And this coming from George Will, no less.
    Note the contrast to the letter editor from Gary Russon in this same section - " We as a nation deserve better. We deserve an honest, frugal, courageous, constitutionally inspired leader at the helm. It's not about party, it's about character. But it is up to us."
    So, Gary - Did you have anyone in mind?

  • Brother Chuck Schroeder A Tropical Paradise USA, FL
    March 6, 2011 10:08 a.m.

    Like it or not, here's my view, the truth, comeing from a real TRUE Republican, not some RINO. It seems as if George F. Will can also read mind's, when he said that GOP hopefuls need to stop spewing nonsense. Bill O'Reilly delivered a lecture at his alma mater, Chaminade High School, predicted that the 2012 presidential race will be close but Republicans will take control of the Senate. At Chaminade a Catholic preparatory school for young men in Mineola, Long Island the Fox News Channel host said the White House race will come down to a choice on the GOP side between a "hard liner" like Sarah Palin or a moderate who "has to stand for something," the Mineola Patch reported. "It will be interesting who breaks out." The main topic of O'Reilly's address was secularism versus Judeo-Christian tradition in the media. If pessimism is not creeping on little cat's feet into Republicans' thinking about their 2012 presidential prospects, that is another reason for pessimism. This is because it indicates they do not understand the sensible Americans, the poor and the middleclass plus the elderly, disabled and Veteran's.

  • Roland Kayser Cottonwood Heights, UT
    March 6, 2011 8:36 a.m.

    The nonsense that I with they'd stop spewing is that you can balance the budget without a tax increase while not imposing significant cuts to Social Security, Medicare, and Defense. Anyone who says this can be done either can't do math, or is lying through his teeth.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    March 6, 2011 8:13 a.m.

    It's like watching a train wreck.
    You know it's gonna be bad, but you can't help but look.

    The loonacy started more 30 years ago,
    and reached full 3-ring circus status when they had golden leaders like Sec. Colin Powell and Sec. Condie Rice to chooose from, but the GOP didn't think they were full blown reich wing wack-o enough, so they threw Sarah Palin in for the #1 contest.

    And Huckabee & Gingrich are leading contenders, again?


  • KDave Moab, UT
    March 6, 2011 8:10 a.m.


  • fanUVU Orem, UT
    March 6, 2011 7:50 a.m.

    Huckabee and his ilk will assure Obama an easy re-election bid.

  • ECR Burke, VA
    March 6, 2011 6:59 a.m.

    Why is that George Will can write so much nonsense one week and then be spot on the next. This is a good one and so true.

    "sensible scant attention to presidential politics at this point in the electoral cycle, (and) must nevertheless be detecting vibrations of weirdness emanating from people associated with the party (the Republican party)."

    So true.

  • silas brill Heber, UT
    March 6, 2011 5:41 a.m.

    These people (Huckabee, Palin, etc.) are utterly shameless in how they promote themselves to sell books. They are nothing but provocateurs who say anything outrageous to intentionally draw attention to themselves to make money. I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt they don't actually believe what they are saying. Maybe I shouldn't.

  • Blue Salt Lake City, UT
    March 6, 2011 5:32 a.m.

    Will the Deseret News also publish articles pointing out the nonsense spewed by Mitt Romney?

  • CHS 85 Sandy, UT
    March 6, 2011 1:23 a.m.

    I, for one, am enjoying the spewing nonsense that solidifies the implosion of the Grand Old Party.