High school basketball: Liahona downs defending champion Bryce Valley

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  • WA=#1 Provo, Utah
    March 5, 2011 1:44 a.m.

    If we have haters, we're doing something right

  • samerules? Cedar city, Utah
    March 4, 2011 11:32 p.m.

    @WADAD That is our point exactly. No one cares if they joined as a junior or senior, the fact is Skeete is the 8th ranked kid in Canada and he joined to play this year.

  • JD Books Monroe, UT
    March 4, 2011 5:40 p.m.

    Many people owe coach Hunt and the South Sevier community a big apology by saying that they "recruited" the Blackburn boys from Wayne county.

  • 1Abballfan Panguitch, UT
    March 4, 2011 1:48 p.m.

    BTW, Thanks to everyone for not blowing a gasket. Good conversation. After years of reading, this isn't the way it usually goes. LOL!!

  • 1Abballfan Panguitch, UT
    March 4, 2011 1:27 p.m.

    I believe you are right. That is why they play the game. Brandon Evans, Chris Alexis, Silva and Gobba, and the Christian Heritage boys. Those are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head. They were great teams. Some of them won, the others didn't. Doesn't change the fact does it? Do they give scholarships for these schools? Do they go look for students? How many players on WA have been there longer than 1 year? This is just a thought from someone who has played and coached against these schools. In my opinion, all these teams have forgot the concept of TEAM. It is all me, me, me. Yet these private schools are playing TEAM ball.

  • WAdad Mt Pleasant, Utah
    March 4, 2011 1:21 p.m.

    I think I'd better clarify before somebody breaks a hip jumping on the bandwagon. Aniulis is the only curernt player that joined WA as a senior, and the only one that I can remember. Skeete is the only player on the team to join WA as a junior. Kaba is a soph now, Krajacic started last year as a soph. Kurtev started as a freshman. Crosby and Diop are usually the first two off the bench and they came to WA as freshmen, they are sophmore now. All the rest of the team were either freshmen or sophmores when they came to WA. Wa is moving to 2A next year anyway and Liahona will lose 80% of their team to graduation, so things will get back to the way you all like it soon.

  • 1AFan Bountiful, ut
    March 4, 2011 1:07 p.m.

    While I agree with the concerns about recruiting, we need to recognize all private schools are not the same. I am no apologist for
    Liahona, but I had a chance to meet the owners and few parents at a game earlier this year. Their annual tuition is around $4000 per year compared to WA $30,000. This gives them zero budget to hire professional recruiters like some private schools do. Also, all of their players are from Utah county, and with few exceptions their players
    could not play at the surrounding 5A schools. The exceptions like Facemyer and maybe Nichols have been with Liahona since their freshman year when Facemywer was cut from his local junior high team, a la Michael Jordon. Liahona's biggest challenge is keeping the local 5/4A schools from recruiting their players. I was told Pleasant Grove almost recruited Facmyer over this past summer. And Timpview did pull a Liahona starter away two years ago. I love small town 1A ball, and I too dislike what recruiting has brought to 1A, but their are a few private schools that bring that same feel and challenges as their fellow public schools.

  • Rolston Murray, Utah
    March 4, 2011 1:00 p.m.

    In the last 100 years private schools have won only three championships. Doesn't sound like much recruiting is going on.

  • 1A 1WAY Cedar Hills, UT
    March 4, 2011 12:53 p.m.

    As far as I know, Nichols and Facemyer have been playing since even before Liahona recived UHSAA status, but I do not know for sure.

  • Rolston Murray, Utah
    March 4, 2011 12:46 p.m.

    When Bryce Valley wins a championship with two transfers a year ago, it's called small town basketball at its best, when a private school wins with transfers it's called a travesty.

    At least be consistent, rural fans.

    WA has lost two games this year to 1A teams, same with Liahona. If a title means more to rural kids, which is just not true, but if you feel it is, the rural kids should be able to play harder, and go out an beat them and take the title home.

  • 1Abballfan Panguitch, UT
    March 4, 2011 12:44 p.m.

    I though they had been there longer than two years. This is my point: Liahona my be a private school, but those players have been there for 3 to 4 years. They didn't go out and "recruit" for a championship this year. They put in their time and are now reaping the rewards of hard work. Now take WA, they went and recruited for a championship. Those kids haven't "put in" the time. This is the type of recruiting that gets under our skin. At the same time they are fun to watch. Although I do prefer to watch a kid that has been in 1A and "came up" through the ranks, like Facemyer, Nichols, Martin, Roundy.

  • samerules? Cedar city, Utah
    March 4, 2011 12:43 p.m.

    It does not matter if they are from all different countries, the point is if they had been there since they were Freshman then ok no problem. These ARE kids that are being talked about, and kids on these other teams in these small schools to that are being Talked about. Tell me that Skeete has been there more than just this year. He is the best player on the team, without him you are not where you are now. All 1 A Boys love basketball too and they all have to play by the rules. BV just won their first Championship last year and they done it with their own homegrown kids.

  • 1ANation Mount Pleasant, Utah
    March 4, 2011 11:38 a.m.

    @BVGREEN You've got that all wrong. You see, first of all, the 5 players they put out on the court in the closing minutes were all from different countries. 2nd of all you are writing a paragraph complaint about Wasatch Academy's team and it's caliber. These are kids you are talking about, kids who love to play basketball like anyone else in Utah. If Wasatch Academy was as bad as they've been for the past 136 years, you would never have taken the time to write that comment. This would not be an issue. Take that into account when you are saying our team is careless. Too many hours have been put in to call our team a "just go out there and play" type team. Think about it.

  • smallballfan Provo, UT
    March 4, 2011 11:02 a.m.

    Since they were freshman, I think. I remember hearing about them as sophomores there atleast.

  • FanofHSBall West Jordan, UT
    March 4, 2011 10:55 a.m.

    I believe this is their third year playing, they were there when the team had their first season as a JV schedule

  • 1Abballfan Panguitch, UT
    March 4, 2011 10:17 a.m.

    How long has Nichols and Facemeyer been playing at Liahona?

  • football55 Lindon, UT
    March 4, 2011 9:02 a.m.

    Nichols was unconscious as he ripped BV apart in that 1st qtr. BV had to go to a box & 1 to try to slow him down. That opened things up for Facemyer and others. 11 boards to go with 29 points is a game to remember.
    Great games on the schedule all across the board in Richfield today. Milford v Monticello will be one to watch...

  • smallballfan Provo, UT
    March 4, 2011 8:06 a.m.

    It was Nichols, and yes we will. However, Rich will give WA a much better game than when they first met. I say WA gets a scare and wins by 5-10. Liahona rolls ICS by 20 +. Rich then rolls ICS in the 3rd place game by 20 +. Liahona and WA play an epic 'ship that comes down to the wire. If it can be kept close, Liahona wins. If not, they'll lose big. It's gonna be great.

  • 1A 1WAY Cedar Hills, UT
    March 4, 2011 7:41 a.m.

    It was indeed Nichols and not Facemyer who scored all his team's 1st quarter points. Nichols got his points in just about every way you can think of. From acrobatic lay-ups in traffic, to a couple of sweet baseline 3s. Watching him and BV's Kace Roundy take over for that first eight minutes was a sheer delight! I am looking forward to seeing what Nichols and company do in the final two days of this tournament.

  • Mr. Politico Alpine, UT
    March 4, 2011 1:17 a.m.

    good article. clarification though is that I believe it was Nichols, not Facemyer, that scored all the first quarter points for Liahona. Will we have a fourth showdown between WA and Liahona?