Utah Jazz: Nearly do-or-die time if team is to make the playoffs

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  • The Great Houdini Rye, CO
    March 4, 2011 6:49 p.m.

    I`m all for playing the youngsters,as I agree this sesaon is toast,and YES the Nuggets are playing much better without the gloryhog,melo.Build around Harris,Millsap and Jefferson and cut the dead weight,starting with miles

  • Kakashi Tokyo, Japan
    March 3, 2011 9:52 p.m.

    If you had read scouting reports prior to the draft...it was noted that Hayward always try to be in front of his man on D...his second year in Butler showed his FG and 3pt percentages dropped...im not sure why though...im sure he can fix it in time...almost all NBA players...need minutes to improve...if not given the minutes...they wont really produce and improve...i'd rather develop the rookies...playing against seasoned NBA Pros...rather than...play them in the D-League...the skill level is different...and the Pros will make you commit a lot of mistakes...thus helping them learn from it...not everyone is a Blake Griffin...or Kevin Durant...or Lebron...everyone has a different learning curve...and im sure...in the next 2 years...we will see how much they'll improve...

    @ sokol
    if Hayward = Adam Morrison II...does that mean Hayward would be a 2-time NBA Champion?...im just saying...Morrison did a great job heating up Kobe's seat for the Lakers...

  • BillM75 Salt Lake City, UT
    March 3, 2011 5:27 p.m.

    Hayward played a lot better against Boston then the embalmed corpse of KOC's masterstroke fall-back idea, the late Raja Bell.

    From checking ESPN's projections, Jazz are about a 3-1 dog to make it, but it's not impossible. They are losing every tiebreaker right now, but going 14-7 would probably do it.

    They absolutely cannot lose any more games to lottery teams or teams they battling with between the 4 and 11th seeds. They have enough games aginst those teams to do it, but they have to win them all, or else start beating LA and SA.

  • Bugoff Houston, TX
    March 3, 2011 4:35 p.m.

    DEN is better without Melo. The drama is over. Without Billups they are running more uptempo. Since there style has been to freeball and shoot 3s and ad lib that has worked well for them in these first few games.

    It probably won't work well for them in the playoffs.

    The Jazz had defensive problems with Sloan. They have those same problems now and they have new players. However, Harris matches up much better with Lawson and Felton. Harris is quicker than DWill.

    On playing Hayward instead of CJ, Hayward is a very good on ball defender. He does not give as much help defense as say AK or even AJ but he does stay in front of his man if at all possible. That is one reason why he is getting minutes.

    CJ can be a good defender when he wants to. Bell traditionally has been good but I am not sure what is going on with him. He may be dinged a little.

    IF the defense improves AND the SG positions starts shooting 50% FGs and 40% 3s the Jazz should make the playoffs.

    Corbin is playing to win (not lose). There are problems to fix.

  • JazzRule Bountiful, UT
    March 3, 2011 4:14 p.m.

    Agree with you ute4ever. As far as getting Bell pissed, all he has to do is remember J.R. Smith throwing him down last game and he will be there.

  • ute4ever West Jordan, UT
    March 3, 2011 3:43 p.m.

    Fes: The only thing you need to know about his value is that this past offseason when he was a free agent.....NO ONE took interest. Get rid of him now that Favors is on board. He shouldn't play once the rest of the season...give the experience to Favors.

    CJ: That guys ticks me off more than any other player. He shoots bad shots and plays terrible defense. Please oh please, for the love of everything holy, get rid of him.

    Watson: Good energy guy, but not a starter or finisher.

    Hayward: Play the boy. When he gets minutes he produces. He plays with more energy and heart than Bell and CJ combined. Face it, this is a lost season. Develop the talent that COULD be there next year.

    Bell: Just get him pissed at someone every night and he'll play just fine.

    Harris: Once he finds his way in the offense, he'll be fine. He's already averaging 17 pts and 7 assists....not bad for a new fella.

  • JazzRule Bountiful, UT
    March 3, 2011 3:15 p.m.

    While I agree the Nuggets are doing well, and frankly better off without Melo, they aren't going deep in the playoffs imo.

  • Doug10 Roosevelt, UT
    March 3, 2011 2:27 p.m.

    Hayward shoots poorly, so does CJ, AK, Price, Fes and Bell is abysmal.

    Promote the shooting coach.

    Something needs to be done, rather something different needs to be done if all these players show up here and they lose their shot.

  • Capt. Smash Bountiful, UT
    March 3, 2011 2:18 p.m.

    All you Jazz fans get ready the New Nuggets! They are 4-1 since marsh-mello left! They are a hard nose defensive team now if the Jazz score over 85 they will be lucky. Last night they had eight players that scored 10 or more. This team is very, very dangerous they are going to go deep in the playoffs.

  • Sokol Las Vegas, NM
    March 3, 2011 1:28 p.m.

    Hayward = Opie Milicic
    Hayward= Adam Morrison the II

  • The Jazz Truth Draper, Utah
    March 3, 2011 1:26 p.m.

    What happened to inside out? It's hard to hit a 3 or J when your on the run and getting the ball at an angle. Most people can't do that consistently except for Ray Allen. Our big men need to play inside out a little more. It's easier to hit a shot coming strait from a big than from a dish to the side because it keeps your shoulders square. Look how many times Boston kicked out and got wide open looks! Even Pierce knows when to dish on the block.

    As good as AJ is playing he would benefit if he kicked out more instead of the wings clearing the side and literally watching him because nobody moves and we have no offensive rebounding when this happens. Don't get me started on the boxing out, my wife hears me scream it at least 10 times a game. It's not hard to turn around and check someone even our rookie Favors did it and I loved it!! Actually pressed rewind 3 times to watch him box out because it's been so long since Ive seen anything close to it. CJ you Stink!

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    March 3, 2011 1:18 p.m.

    I think Corbin has been told to loose as many games as possible. What else would explain the lack of minutes for CJ and playing Hayward at the 2?

    Not so Fast: I agree with you on Millsap. He is an over-all liability to this team. Not missing Carlos at all. Nor Jerry.

    Still would like to see Favors start and Millsap come off the bench. Also I would like to see CJ start and Bell never come off the bench. As far as Fes, forget about him. He has zero value.

  • Not So Fast Salt Lake City, UT
    March 3, 2011 1:04 p.m.

    Things that seem better now to basketball fans who don't know basketball: Jerry Sloan, Carlos Boozer.

    Things that seem worse: Paul Millsap, playing young guys a lot, Fesenko (not sure he can even stay in the NBA).

    Things I miss: Kyle Korver stretching defenses.

    This isn't a playoff team but it is a young team that will have an infusion of draft picks in the next couple of years. Hopefully TCorb and his staff will help them improve and get them ready for the NBA.

  • Dr Truth SLC, ut
    March 3, 2011 12:59 p.m.

    @CJ miles, man you are taking people to task lately. CJ is a mess since D-will left. I think they kind of got each other going, offensively, at times when they were together. Right now if CJ doesn't produce in a 4 or 5 minute stint, I'd go with Hayward. Say what you want about his offense, at least he plays hard! Seems like other teams have targeted Miles like Milsap, they go at him because he is foul prone/defensive liability. Fess= expendable. He is worth a million or two a year in order to play against the teams that still have tradtional centers in the league. Unless the two guard/bench improves with this team, you can go ahead and start visiting the draft websites. Tomic? let's not kid ourselves, this guy isn't going to save the Jazz for the forseeable future! It's time to play the draft lottery!!

  • We the People Sandy, UT
    March 3, 2011 12:41 p.m.

    The following players must go:

    Fesenko: Does he even have a single basketball skill?
    Bell: Great guy, but his time has come and gone.
    Hayward: Worst use of a lottery pick in Jazz history.
    Okur: Great guy, but too injured.
    Miles: Does the guy ever pass?

  • Ak Fan Hamburg, GE
    March 3, 2011 11:38 a.m.

    I don't understand love affair with Hayward. He doesn't bring anything for now. He hustles yes but stats similar to Bell or even worse. No cure for 2. Before injury Price Watson combo was very effective .
    Ty need match up. Smith and Chandler 2 good shooters contain them once shots not fall Denver will easily fold.

  • JazzRule Bountiful, UT
    March 3, 2011 11:34 a.m.

    Scratch that, the Nuggets are 4-1 since unloading Melo

  • 7dawg Norman, OK
    March 3, 2011 11:17 a.m.

    Bench Bell....forever. He has had zero impact in games the last 2 months. We only need him in the locker room for veteran presence.

  • JazzRule Bountiful, UT
    March 3, 2011 11:02 a.m.


    I don't understand how you can say anything about Corbin. We don't know what he is or could be yet. Pat Riley wouldn't have a better record since sloan left considering everything going on.

  • JazzRule Bountiful, UT
    March 3, 2011 11:00 a.m.

    @C.J. Miles

    Actually, Denver is 3-1 since Carmelo left. They defeated Boston and last night they beat Charlotte by 40. So ya, they are a good team. Frankly, I think better off without Melo.

    Anyway, will be a fun game to watch.

  • JT Texas Midland, TX
    March 3, 2011 10:58 a.m.

    Was raja implying there are some nights to "take off"?

  • Vince the boonies, mexico
    March 3, 2011 10:56 a.m.

    Don't worry So Cal this team will respect coach Corbin and play for him, and you will also see a better and different approach to today's basketball schemes. The one thing I can't stand is why the NBA let's a funky network like TNT set the game times of games like tonights. Starting at 8:30 to 9pm our time is 10:30 to 11pm est, and just how many people in the largest populated region is going to stay up until 1am watching basketball on TV? This is ridiculous, either start the 1st game at 6:30 or 7pm est or just televise 1 game. Ridiculous!

  • SoCal Trabuco Canyon, CA
    March 3, 2011 10:33 a.m.

    Hey, where are all of you Jazz fans that said as soon as they get rid of Coach Sloan, the Jazz will go on a 20 game winning streak?
    The fact is...that Coach Sloan is a disciplinarian and the players respect him and play within the system. As much as Coach Corbin is a good guy and was a good player, he does not command the respect of the players. If he did, then his Jazz team would be undefeated under his leadership, Not, nearly win less.
    The Players are all "professional Players" they get paid a lot of money. They need to suck it up and play like Coach Sloan has taught them to play. Win a few games!!

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    March 3, 2011 10:30 a.m.

    Yeah let's play Hayward, Fes and Watson a bunch of minutes and see how that turns out. Between the 3 of them they wouldn't be able to score 20 points a game while giving up 50. Sorry but in the NBA you have to score points to win beyond playing defense. Defense is only important if you can score too. Has to be a balance. Beyond that, Watson, Fes and Hayward are not that good.

    When Corbin wakes up and realizes that he is not Jerry, then this team might have a chance on winning some games. If Denver beats them, pack it in because they are not a very good team without Carmelo.

    Play Favors more and Millsap less........

  • SnipeHookyoFace Farmington, UT
    March 3, 2011 10:24 a.m.

    Jazz Starters should be: Harris, Hayward, AK, Millsap, and Jefferson. Hayward has been playing awesome defense lately. I wouldn't even mind seeing Millsap come off the bench to keep the offense running, since Miles is have a mental breakdown of some sort.

    It's fun to see them compete again....

  • TravisRyu West Valley City, UT
    March 3, 2011 9:40 a.m.

    At the beginning of the year I was really excited for the Jazz. We got Big Al and Raja Bell and figured these guys would be able to pick up the Jazz system quickly. Unfortunately I was wrong and soon grew tired of the Jazz and their woes. Then a shock happened Sloan quit retired and it was Coach Corbins time to shine and that was cool but it was still bleh. Then a huge shock happened the Jazz got rid of their All star point guard Deron Williams. All of the sudden I wanted to watch the Jazz new guys and Im glad I did. I believe that this team will gel and the egos will be less public. I am excited about what this team can do and I fully expect to see them in the play offs and probably in the 2nd round of the play offs.

  • duke5 vancouver, wa
    March 3, 2011 9:11 a.m.

    Do or die?

    The Jazz are already dead!

  • Bugoff Houston, TX
    March 3, 2011 7:56 a.m.

    There were very serious defensive problems before Harris and Favors.

    Now it will take some time for both to learn the defense. Closing with Harris is probably necessary and his late game defense will improve as he plays more.

    Favors plays pretty good D and he is better than Fes or Elson on offense. None of the 3 are closers.

    AK, AJ and Millsap are pretty much set as the bigs who close. Harris is probably better than Watson for closing. The big question mark is Bell, Hayward or CJ. Corbin has been playing match ups and that probably is the determining factor.

    As far as playing Fes, are the Jazz better off with Favors or Fes on the floor in most situations?

    Fes can be useful when paired against big traditional Cs but Favors is a good defender (will get better quick with playing time) and also an offensive threat.

    I think playing Favors is smart unless there is an obvious need for Fes.

    When the Jazz start winning 1/2 of their games then I will worry about the playoffs.

    DEN's style (mostly adlibs and universal plays) absorbs new players quickly. The Jazz style does not.

  • scalman Temecula, CA
    March 3, 2011 5:38 a.m.

    The more Hayward, Fesenko and Watson play, the better the Jazz are defensively. Granted, all three struggle at times to score, but in the end, I think the Jazz win more games.

  • josemb navotas, philippines
    March 3, 2011 2:40 a.m.

    oh... if only the jazz has this mindset early in the season; the "every game is a must-win game" attitude. but they usually come in the to start the game playing non-challantly. those 3-4 winnable games that they took for granted earlier.