Klep-Please don't give them facts....too confusing. The reality that AK
is the best perimeter shooter on the team ( including D-Wont) just does not fit
into their version of the universe.And a few of them want to fire
Horny for ruining AK's shot.
Klep.....Let's look at the 4 games after Jerry left and Corbin was playing CJ 36
minutes a game. He was dominating the other players. It was only after Corbin
cut his minutes in half that CJ became a headcase. He was scoring 18.5 a game
until Corbin decided to try and hold him under 10 a game so Kevin wouldn't sign
him for more money.......
Enes Kanter worked out for KOC. He is big with good moves inside, good defender
and can shoot out to the 3 point line. 272/6'11". Not that athletic or
explosive but smart and gets the job done. Similar to Sullinger of OH. He is
currently ranked 6th in the draft by Draft Express. He is ranked 5th by
NBAdraftnet. CBS ranks him at 4th.The Jazz may go big with one of
their picks. It probably makes more sense to pick up a VET SG than to draft one.
@CJ - OK lets look at box scores and statistics, this is what I see. Last 10 games FG %CJ - 34.6%AK - 56%RB - 47.2%GH -
41.7% Season FG%/3P%CJ - 40.5%/33.2%AK - 47.1%/37.2%RB - 42.6%/35.1%GH - 43.8%/36.7%AK, Bell, and Hayward are
all better shooters then CJ. Throwing up a lot of shots does not make you a
good shooter, it just makes you someone who shoots a lot.
@Miles - If you are soooo sure about Hayward, take a look at his +/- against
Boston. It was +15 cause he held Allen to 2 points while he was guarding him.
Hayward is a stud and determined, unlike Miles.
I could live with rebuilding a team around the youngsters as I see what happened
in the span of a few years with OKC. Why not give up on some of the projects
like CJ and Fes as they just don't have the work ethic it takes to be really
good in the NBA. Perhaps Bell should call it a day and retire. Keep Price around
to play small ball with Watson, send Evans to Chuck-a Rama and the D league and
draft/ trade from there. The jury is still out on Corbin but give him his own
team and a few years and I believe that he could be a really good coach. I am a
happy boy with the acquisition of Favors and Harris. Patience is all the Jazz
fans need and, in this case, patience is time well spent.
Early Oop to Favors FTW!@CJ MilesHayward WILL be better than
CJ. He's certainly a lot more determined and in the end that's where it counts.
Coco.....Do you watch the games? Hayward can't make a jumpshot to save himself.
You are the only one on here who thinks he can......Vince...... If
you look at old box scores, CJ and Dwill were the only ones making 3's most
nights. I am not saying that their shooting percentage was good while doing it,
but they were at least making some every night. There were plenty of games that
CJ was the only one to have a 3.Jazz Source......You really think
that Hayward is better than CJ? When Hayward plays, the Jazz do not win. That
is not implying that CJ is doing anything spectacular as of late. But after
Jerry left, he was scoring 20 a nihgt until Dwill left the team.
What do you mean C.J. that D-Will and C.J. were the only ones that could hit a 3
point shot on a regular basis? Neither did on a "regular" basis and I
doubt either "will"! Low thirties or less doesn't cut it!
No kidding. CJ has been in the league 6 seasons and he still can't string 2
decent games together.I'm sure he is pouting now that Deron has
left. I seriously thought he had finally made the step the way he
was playing to start the season but he has regressed into the same old
consistent jeckyl and hide.I find it comical that the Miles poster
complains about other players and how bad they are while clearly CJ is a huge
detriment to the team right now. I mean, at least Hayward can play defense when
he is on the floor. Even if Hayward does not shoot well he at least makes it
difficult on the opposition to score.Meanwhile is missing open
players and jacking up bad shots then he stands like a statue while players
drive past him to the basket. He is now bad at both ends. What a waste of
athletic talent he has turned out to be.How much longer can this
franchise be asked to wait for CJ to "develop"?I agree
that we do need Okur back in a major way for a perimeter threat.Bell
is a bust.
"The matchups and the flow of the game will determine" who plays, said
Corbin.That's a breath of fresh air. I hope he sticks to that
@Cj Milesface the facts? You make NO sense at all what fact is out
there that Hayward cant shoot? He is a rookie and the fact is, he is way ahead
of where CJ was 6 years ago. You have NO facts to base that Hayward cant shoot
with the limited time he has been in the NBA.
Lets face the facts:Bell and Hayward are not good shooters yet they
play the 2. Kinda reminds me of Brewer. Seems to be a trend in Utah.CJ and Dwill were the only ones who could hit 3's on a regular basis and one
is gone and the other might as well have left with him.AK fires them
up but he isn't a shooter either.I guess I have a hard time
understanding why Kevin doesn't try to bring in a Dleaguer who can shoot if he
can't find one through a trade.I get the feeling that until AK is
off the books, no more money to be spent or trades to be made. If
only the Jazz had not signed Memo. That 10 million would have them a nice 2
The last I heard Okur had not been doing anything but resting his back as
ordered by his Dr. He is probably aware of it but "vibrating"
exercise equipment works most of your body indirectly not just the muscles that
are lifting etc. The use of vibrating equipment would help to get
the rest of his body into game shape much faster than conventional exercises.
It would not surprise me if KOC/Greg would prefer to get the extra
lotto pick instead of make the playoffs. They may have players in mind they
want. How often do the Jazz get a lotto pick?This year already has a
lot of turmoil and expectations of the playoffs are low.If they were
really aggressive about getting into the playoffs KOC would be getting a
The Celtics game was a step in the right direction. For the most part the Jazz
executed the offense well against a very good defensive team. Corbin has found a
way to improve the offense and it will get better as Harris gains experience
running it and also learns the players.The Jazz defensive problems
have yet to be addressed and some of that is new players not knowing the defense
which will fix. Most of it are old players who are not executing or simply bad
defensive philosophy. Corbin has to address the defense next. Not
only is Corbin making adjustments but he is playing match ups. The Jazz played
best under Sloan this year when he played match ups. KOC is not
going to add an SG this year. Money is a major reason. CJ and Bell will work out
of their problems. In the meantime Hayward seems to be making some progress. IF Okur can play he will need 2 or more weeks to get into playing shape.
He really should not be on the floor unless he can contribute. IF Okur can shoot
he could help this team.
I think everyone is saying the right things, just as they have all season long.
I think the Jazz need to stop talking the talk and start walking the walk. We
have major holes that need to be filled, but I give the Jazz credit for being
much further along than any of the other teams that lost their super-stars and
have had to rebuild. Toronto-Bosh, Cleveland-James, Phoenix-stat. an aging team
but decent, wont last long. My point is the Jazz have put themselves in a very
good position to move forward right away. Don't forgot that those draft picks
can be traded for a veteran shooting guard or possibly bring in some high
caliber youngster too, who knows, but the future is very bright for the Utah
Jazz! Harris and Favors were both great additions and I know that it will take a
little time, but this move will pay off. GO JAZZ!
You have to laugh at all the comments complaining about Corbins comment about
"Moving in the right direction"We are in training camp
mode trying to make a run at the playoffs. These guys are playing on the fly
right now with new players, new rotations, and players coming back from losing
time to injury. Its going to take time
no 2 guard no playoffs, but is that bad ? get the pick , spend open money on a
great 2 over the summer, and boom ! we are loaded next year ! dump Bell, C.J,
Fess,Price, and reload for next year.
Raja needs to do somethhing diffrent and hes just not. and doesnt play while hes
out there. he doesnt deserve to play. take him out a couple games and see what
happenes in that time if he works harder and shows improvement put him back in.
thats what i would do. BENCH HIM. but in evens he always does something while he
is in always jumping for rebounds and butbacks i love him and they way he plays
I can't believe Jazz are not making any effort to sign C.Brewer. Bell and Miles
just not getting it done at the 2 spot, and we will let other teams snatch
excellent perimeter defender, good 3 pts shooter and passer.
CJ Miles doesn't know how to pass the ball. If he gets the ball he shoots it no
matter how open another teammate may be. Raja looks like he has no confidence
when he gets the ball and can't make a 3 to save his life. I agree with the
other comments, we need a better 2 Guard. You might as well start Hayward, so he
gets more comfortable on the court. I hope Memo comes back we need an outside
Any team playing the Jazz would be crazy if they don't pack it in and make you
beat them from the outside. I would double AJ every time he gets the ball. KOC
we need a 2 guard that can score. Bell is bad CJ is worse. GH plays better D
than both of thoses guys.
Love the way the Jazz are playing much better inside outbasketball since
Deron and Coach Sloan have left. Use thepractice time for defense by the
first team. They areplaying better at this, but not much and certainly
notgood enough to win.
I Don't like it if Corbin is suggesting that Offense is the way to go when other
teams are beating you, But at least he is saying team work. I hope that He is
going to use Price more rather than loose to a faster guard who can put up more
points. I Don't understand why Jeff is not teaching the Jazz how to shoot.
"step in the right direction" corbin says... huh?!? we lost that game.
how could that be in the right direction? unless we are aiming for a high
lottery pick. lol. i hope he stops making those stupid comments--making it ok
just to hang around with the celtics. moral victories doesn't count. i hope he
gets really angry when the jazz lose a game. and i hope his players feel really
bad about those losses. if we keep putting positive spin on every loss then why
the heck try at all to win games. let's just win moral victories after moral
defend the 3point FG of the opponent, CJ must move on, Corbin should consider
Bell's playing minutes, period.