Utah Jazz: Al Jefferson continues torrid play of late

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  • Maverick West Jordan, UT
    March 2, 2011 10:53 p.m.

    Corbin needs to start CJ. He's a legit 2 guard that can do great things. He's in a slump now but his good moments outweigh the bad.

  • amgolfer Provo, UT
    March 2, 2011 10:22 p.m.

    CJ-I just hope this is the real CJ Miles and if it is I'm impressed you have come around buddy. However, I'm not giving up on CJ just yet as I see glimpses of serious talent on the court. I know--the dreamer. Can't help it. I'm trying to be super positive and we need an outside shooter. Guess what folks beside CJ and his erratic play who else we going to rely on for "some" shooting? We have no one right now. Okur has to seriously prove he is healthy enough for the rigors of the NBA--not convinced. Now, if I'm wrong I will eat every word and apologize. Right now I rather see CJ on the floor than Bell. Bell is washed up and should be 2nd string backing up the starters. His past injuries before coming back to Utah have caught up with him; plus he is over his prime. I like other pieces but not there D and outside shooting. Start CJ and let's see if we can get his confidence back. Wouldn't hurt folks; either that or Bell. Hmmm...Wish we still had Korver? Go Jazz

  • ed Los Olivos, CA
    March 2, 2011 7:11 p.m.

    Is that you out there is it Sybil?

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    March 2, 2011 5:35 a.m.

    CJMIles: A question for you, you live in Dallas, I am assuming, does that mean you know CJ or have seen him play while in HS or what is it that had you so devoted for so long?
    His potential is what I have seen and hoped would develop, because that would help the Jazz that much more and give them what they need.
    I agree with you though, he is lazy and won't work hard enough to develop that potential.

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    March 2, 2011 12:20 a.m.

    I am tired of standing up for CJ night after night and he doesn't want to put forth the effort to be a better player. I am done defending his laziness and lack of hard work. I have never seen such talent go to waste as CJ's. The guy will be flipping hamburgers if it were not for the NBA. You would think he would wake up and see that he is one more bad game away from being benched for good. Then his career would be over as a basketball player.

    CJ wake up and start putting in the work to be the player you should be.

  • amgolfer Provo, UT
    March 1, 2011 10:58 p.m.

    @CJMiles--dude what is up? Last week you were saying you hope AK takes his talents elsewhere and CJ could do NO wrong? Why the sudden change man? Is this the same person or an impostor? Anyway, I have mixed feeling about CJ. I agree with everyone's post about him and his work ethic, being fragile, etc. There are these very small glimpses throughout the game exposing his talent. The kid can play and it's sad he doesn't see it. I would love nothing more than for him to come around and grow into the the player he can be. We need his outside shot desperately. Please hire Ray Allen for some help and tips. This guy is flat out amazing and his work ethic; it's humbling to see what has has done in his career. He deserve it all. I hope he (CJ) can find his shot soon. Bell needs to be benched and Corbin needs to man up and just do it. I like Hayward's hustle but WE need a shooter and right now he's not the answer. Defense and outside shooting need to be greatly improved. Go Jazz

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    March 1, 2011 8:40 p.m.

    CJMiles: I'm surprised you are so down on CJ, you may be right and he may be playing like he is because of DWill but I hope he is more of a man than that. If he is that fragile , your right he won't be able to make it in the NBA even with another team. I hope your wrong and it just takes him a week or two more to pull out of this funk and start to play better. If he can play to his potential, he is worth keeping but so far he isn't showing he can. I question if he can improve and play like he needs to, because of his work ethic. I will still hope he figures things out but I won't hold my breath or count on it.
    I would rather have CJ in the game than Bell though. I would rather have Hayward than either one of them the way they have been playing and Hayward will just get better.

  • B Russ Ephraim, UT
    March 1, 2011 8:32 p.m.

    Starting and playing Favors next to big Al would compensate alot for big Als short comings on defense and boxing out. Favors is very quick for a man his size and he knows how to quickly slide over and get into position to defend or box out. Milsaps energy could be utilized in the 2nd unit.

  • concerned jazz fan Park City, UT
    March 1, 2011 7:18 p.m.

    if Corbin continues to allow Bell to play huge minutes, I think Corbin should be fired..I think Bell's time is over, I think it's better for him to retire, he is not the Bell the we used to know, we just have to accept the reality of things..the management should talk to CJ, I think he is still affected by the trade of D-Will,if he continues of poor play, I think Corbin should sit him out the rest of the season.

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    March 1, 2011 6:04 p.m.

    Knight has a point.....If Jefferson can score 30 a night, who cares if he plays any defense.

  • dknight68 Ogden, ut
    March 1, 2011 5:18 p.m.

    @jazz source,
    "How many times last night did we watch Garnet hit wide-open uncontested jumpers? He shot over 50% from the field and had 14 rebounds. He averages 10. Where was Jefferson?"

    He was shooting 11-21, scoring 28 and rebounding 19
    and where was Garnett?

    We do need better pick and roll defense, we also need to actually set the pick on the pick and roll offense. Somebody, anybody needs to hit a 3 on occasion. The difference in the game last night Jazz 1-7 on 3's Boston 7-15.

    BTW look for the Jazz to go 10-4 in March

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    March 1, 2011 5:12 p.m.

    Captain: CJ is done. He doesn't have what it takes to make it in the NBA. He has quit much like Dwill quit on the team. Trading him may give him a new life but he is done in Utah. Corbin need not waste his time playing him anymore until he decides to grow up and be a man.

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    March 1, 2011 4:47 p.m.

    CJMiles: I have always loved CJ's potential but he is the perfect example of potential and reality not always being the same. I still hoped for CJ's improvement and development but it is hard to continue to be positive about him when he consistently plays like he is playing. One of the biggest problems with trying to stay positive about him is his lack of intensity, hustle, and heart. He has been in the league almost 6 yrs and still only shows bits and pieces of what he can do. If he would just bust his behind and hustle and fight like Mathews did, I would be OK with him but he doesn't and it is hard to stay positive all the time.
    I will continue to hope he comes around as long as he is a Jazz player (even if he is traded)but I won't hold my breath. He seems like a good kid, with a good attitude but doesn't seem to have a good work ethic.
    He can't become like a Koby, or a Ray Allen or a Reggie if you don't put the work in.

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    March 1, 2011 4:39 p.m.

    Appoligy: I meant before that trade deadline, not before the draft.

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    March 1, 2011 4:38 p.m.

    I heard before the draft that OKC was interested in Milsap, if that is still the case they should try to get Harden and Collison for him. Collison is a hard nosed tough, hustler and Harden can score and is a young 2.

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    March 1, 2011 3:06 p.m.

    Jazz Source: Great Post!!

    Millsap and Jefferson are killing this team. Hopefully in the off-season the Jazz trade Millsap and give his minutes to Favors.

    Pick up a 2 to replace the ever-aged Bell.

    I like AK over Millsap off the bench on the front line with Jefferson and Favors.

    CJ needs to grow up fast or he is gone too.

    Please Please do not sign Price to another contract. What a waste of playing time when he is in the game. Give it to the younger players who actually have potential to grow into something.

    Memo........Terminate him. He is done playing basketball. He is Harpring all over again in the last year of his contract.

    Elson? Why did the Jazz sign him?

    Fes, please do not give him any more playing time.

  • Jazz Source Alpine, UT
    March 1, 2011 2:25 p.m.


    This is like saying somebody on the titanic was bailing water with a cup twice as fast as they were before.

    So what.

    Contact me when this team decides to box out and rebound and play some defense.

    At the beginning of this season we were holding teams to 97-98 points a game and we were top 10 in defense.

    Now? We made the anemic Detroit Pistons look like the Phoenix Suns giving up 120 points to them. Offenive rebounds and 2nd chance points galore because Jefferson and Millsap can't box out my grandmother evidently.

    We are currently 28th in rebounding. 28 of 30 teams.

    The sooner we get a new frontline the sooner we might win.

    Neither Millsap or Jefferson will show on pick n rolls. Guards roll, penetrate, layup/pass = open shot. Rinse. Repeat.

    Favors plays defense and rebounds better than either one of these two. How many times last night did we watch Garnet hit wide-open uncontested jumpers? He shot over 50% from the field and had 14 rebounds. He averages 10. Where was Jefferson?

    Standing, watching.

    Fantasize all you want about the offense but it won't matter until they play defense.

  • Motappin Sandy, UT
    March 1, 2011 1:57 p.m.

    Now if we only had Wes Matthews back...

    Keep AK. I'm sure he will renegotiate for far less money and he really wants to stay. He contributes in so many ways.

    CJ has got to be consistent with his outside shot and at least scoring at the basket, or he's got to go. I really like the kid, but it's been frustrating (probably more so for him than us).

    Favors and Harris are fitting in great! They seem like classy guys who will hang around a while and help build this team over the next couple of years into a top contender. With the Mavs, Lakers and Spurs getting old, the timing couldn't be better for us.

  • Anonigma Murray, UT
    March 1, 2011 1:57 p.m.

    I don't understand people who like Fesenko.
    AJ, Milsap, Favors, and AK. That's the best rotation the Jazz have this year. Next year: AJ, Milsap, Favors, and Tomic (hopefully!)

    Fes stinks. I don't know what people see in him. Every time he's out there he gets fouled or fouls people himself. Consistently inconsistent. Can't make a free throw. Definately ruins the rhythm of the game.
    And I'm saying this with the hopes that he can become better. But after watching Favors (rookie!) do better in 3 games than Fes has done the whole season, I'm set on 'no Fes' forever

    @Hugh G. Hater
    Big Al doesn't have that same ego + he lost in Minnesota 3 years and didnt complain as much.

  • Dr Truth SLC, ut
    March 1, 2011 12:46 p.m.

    Yes Al has been tearing it up on the offensive end and yes every team in the league is running a pick and roll when Al is in the game! If the Jazz are going to make a run, Al's defense needs to get much better in pick and roll situations. Otherwise, welcome to the NBA draft at the end of the season.

    Can someone make an outside shot consistently? I can't remember a worse outside shooting Jazz team. Brewer would fit right in.......oh wait except he would actually play defense on the perimeter.

  • Vince the boonies, mexico
    March 1, 2011 12:33 p.m.

    The one person I have lost respect for is Kevin Garnett. I felt sorry all those years he was stuck in Minn and with a bad team, but now that he has had success he is showing his true colors, black, yellow whatever! What a jerk!

  • sputterish Rexburg, ID
    March 1, 2011 12:24 p.m.

    I've been really down on the JAZZ sice Coach Sloan quit and they traded DWill, but watching last night's game made me start feeling quite a bit better. Even though we lost, we were right in there all the way, and for the most part, we looked sharp. Big Al is probably the biggest reason we were so competive--what a class act he is. He might leave in the future to get closer to family, but it's not the first thing that enters my mind, especially if as a team we can start winning. I don't know why anyone would want to let AK go, his contribution is stupendous in ways that don't show on the stat sheet. He's playing with so much energy. If we lost him and replaced him with a draft pick---man, players as naturally gifted as AK don't come along--even in the lottery--more than once a decade. I'm worried about CJ; I thought he was starting to really look good before DWill left, but now he's lost his confidence or something. I guess that's natural; they were good friends.

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    March 1, 2011 11:17 a.m.

    If CJ and Bell are so bad, what team out there would trade for them except the Timberwolves? Why would another team want bad players with no expiring contract?

    Bell is never going to be good again. CJ who knows at this point?

    In the bigger picture, the Jazz need to rid themselves of Memo and his 10 million a year contract. Same with AK at the end of the year. Those two are eating up 27 million a year. 27 million can buy you a very very very very very good player.

  • Doctor J Manti, UT
    March 1, 2011 9:48 a.m.

    cj needs to go!

  • Hugh G. Hater SLC, UT
    March 1, 2011 8:56 a.m.

    BigAl will end up like DWill.

  • Bugoff Houston, TX
    March 1, 2011 8:29 a.m.

    Is Utah better off getting into the playoffs and getting post season money or should they flop and get an extra pick in a weak draft. Several first round (not lotto) picks will be available for less then usual. They could take the post season money and buy an extra pick if necessary.

    Further, if the Jazz get the lotto pick this year they give up a pick next year in a better deeper draft.

    As the Jazz evolve a couple of questions need to be ask. Are Evans and Hayward worth keeping and developing? If you add 2 more rookies to the lock out year is that to much youth with Favors, Evans, Hayward and 2 rookies?

    On the other hand they are relatively cheap and if they play well that is great. Further, there are plenty of non productive VETs on Utah's team.

  • Bugoff Houston, TX
    March 1, 2011 7:24 a.m.

    I prefer to have AJ to Garnet at this point. He and Favors are the franchise of the future. AJs WP48 is stellar in the last few games.

    You can thank AJ (and Corbin) for the vastly improved play. AJ is making hard cuts, he is setting picks and he is now close to the basket making QUICK moves to the rim. With DWill gone he has to carry the team and IS.

    Corbin has tweaked the offense so that AJ is now effective. He is in the right place (for him) at the right time, making quick moves to the basket.

    Look for both Harris and Favors to improve a lot. Millsap will also as Harris gets more familiar with his game. AK has already improved (wing on AJs side).

    Corbin has to adjust the D. That will come as he gets practice time. Watching film, one on one with key players, has to be advantageous.

    The rest of this season depends on Bell, CJ and Hayward deciding to play and/or getting their shooting touch back.

    The Jazz live or die with the D and the wing shooting from here. One good wing would really help.

  • scalman Temecula, CA
    March 1, 2011 5:39 a.m.

    Jefferson is playing hard, scoring well, rebounding fairly well, but he doesn't box out enough. Let Fes back him up for 10-12 minutes a game. Trading baskets just doesn't get it done in the end...we need defensive presence in the middle.

  • Kakashi Tokyo, Japan
    March 1, 2011 2:15 a.m.

    Al Jefferson is a beast...he always been...he has a lot of low post moves in his arsenal...and he is known for that...all we need is a good wing...that could consistently shoot and defend...trade CJ and Raja at draft day for a solid pick or couple of picks and a key role player...hold on to Memo's hefty expiring contract...for free agents that could help us...or if a good trade comes by...and we would be all set...im hoping that...a duo of Al Jeff and Derrick Favors next year...i think favors would be better...

  • In My Humble Opinion South Jordan, UT
    March 1, 2011 12:39 a.m.

    "Tremendous effort," said Jazz coach Tyrone Corbin. "In the last couple of weeks, he's really been focusing in on where to get the ball, where to get his shots, and putting pressure on guys to stop them at the basket. So he's coming, he's getting a lot better."

    "I'm just doing what I do best, getting more confident in this offense," Jefferson said. "My teammates do a great job of getting me involved. This is the first time I'm really feeling like my old self since the injury. I'm doing what I know how to do best."


    Funny what knowing they have a chance to be an option not an afterthought is doing for AJ and AK...