Utah Jazz fall apart in fourth quarter against Warriors

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  • gazelle Murray, UT
    Feb. 18, 2011 12:12 p.m.

    I do not think anybody is bailing out on the Jazz. We are just calling them out !! And that is a good thing !!

    As fans yeah sometimes we get carried away but we for sure are not stupid !

  • Kakashi Tokyo, Japan
    Feb. 17, 2011 8:25 p.m.

    @CJ Miles...

    the under 4M challenge eh?...with the same minutes CJ is playing? and the amount of shots he takes?...i could name a few...Toney Douglas...Bill Walker...Reggie Williams...i think morrow is at least 4M so i'll toss his name...take note...if all are equal...shots taken minutes played...im sure they could put up 20 a night...

    also your comment of CJ having not used to getting a lot of minutes and getting gassed out tells you what?....yup...a lazy bum...if he has a well conditioned body...he wouldn't need to adjust...since he would be physically fit...to play in any amount of minutes...that is what Sloan required...that was required during the Malone-Stockton Era...players nowadays are lazy...just cashing their checks year after year...if CJ gets traded and does well...good for him...but...i would concentrate on the JAZZ team getting wins rather than a certain player who is lazy to even get into game shape...

  • deno22 Rexburg, ID
    Feb. 17, 2011 7:09 p.m.

    Trading a ton of players will only make this team go backwards. part of the reason they are struggling is because their team defense is horrible. You get lottery teams if you make a hundred trades a season, you have to ride out the bad times if you wanna end up like the spurs are now. The Spurs barely made the playoffs last year now look at them. These guys just need time together, and hopefully they don't bail on each other like the fans have.

    The defense is very poor though, there is no help defense whatsoever.

  • Vince the boonies, mexico
    Feb. 17, 2011 6:53 p.m.

    C.J. more than likely is not tradeable merely because other teams have seen his decision making and up & down success. I am just barely holding on to the Jazz and find that Chicago with 3 former Jazz players is far more fun to watch and cheer for. All of the teams at the top of the NBA standings have made trades to get there, why not us?

  • We the People Sandy, UT
    Feb. 17, 2011 3:13 p.m.


    Pretty much.

  • ouisc Farmington, UT
    Feb. 17, 2011 2:13 p.m.

    We don't need shooters. What we need is makers. ;)

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    Feb. 17, 2011 2:03 p.m.

    Houdini, Name me a player that you would trade CJ for that can put up 20 points a night for under 4 million a year? Oh that's right, you can't name even one!!

    CJ can score with the best in the league when he takes as many shots as a Kobe or Durrant. Denial is good though.........

  • tampicojazzfan West Jordan, ut
    Feb. 17, 2011 1:45 p.m.

    We are playing terrible defense, however we have our 2 ( or should I said our only 2 ) best defensive players out the last 3 games, remember last time we faced this team Raja hold Ellis to only 2 points in that game. I agree with Bugoff we are injured and our guys played 40+ minutes 2 consecutive nights. As they heal will get better.
    At the begining of the season every analyst put the Jazz in 7th or 8th by the all star break, that's exactly where we are right now. The road has been bumpy but that's what was expected of this team on their 1st year together. Let's hope they come back focus and make a nice run get in to the play offs and that is another season where amazin can happen.

    Let's go Jazz!

  • JBQ Saint Louis, MO
    Feb. 17, 2011 1:33 p.m.

    When the team comes back, they have seven of ten road games with the first at Dallas. Boston also comes to town rightaway. They are in big trouble and in a "world of hurt". From the series with the Lakers last year, it was obvious from everyone who commented on tv that they were "outsized". I would say that they should "sell the farm" to get Bogut who played at Utah and would have immense fan appeal.

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    Feb. 17, 2011 12:55 p.m.

    Houdini, I'm not blinded by it, I see it, I even mention it and call him on it but I still hope he can change and become the player we need. Getting rid of CJ or any other player for that matter isn't as easy as everyone wants to make it sound. You can't just open up trade talks with other teams and get the players you want at the price you want. CJ is better than you want to give him credit for, he just isn't as good as we want or see he could be. That is frustrating, even DWill is inconsistent but he has proven to be a winner, CJ has yet to prove that. I think he can though and that is what I will continue to hope for. I'd rather be positive than negative.

  • The Great Houdini Rye, CO
    Feb. 17, 2011 12:36 p.m.

    Capt,you missed the point,miles was getting 25 minutes under Sloan,11 points,now 40 minutes under Corbin,17 points,who cares whether he starts or not,does he help us win? does he play good defense?,is he a good player?,is he in shape?,is he a difference maker?has he EVER hit a big shot to win a game? NO to all,open your eyes Capt,you`re blinded by what you hope and wish cj would be

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    Feb. 17, 2011 12:01 p.m.

    Miles: I hope so. CJ seems to have been playing harder for Corbin but he still looks winded and out of shape. CJ frustrates me because I see so much potential in him and you can't play to your potential if you can't hustle & exert fully. I agree it is hard to shoot well or be consistent when your tired but that is CJ's fault, he needs to work harder at getting in better shape. If you know him or anyone else who knows him or has his twitter etc, he needs to have a pre game shooting workout like Ray Allen or Reggie Miller have/had, it would do wonders for CJ. You don't become the best unless you work hard enough to make it happen.

  • Jazz Source Alpine, UT
    Feb. 17, 2011 11:56 a.m.

    Same pathetic pick and roll defense.

    Same result.

    This team is shorthanded and without AK they have no chance to win games.

    AK may be overpaid but he is the difference maker. We would not have lost to the Suns if he would not have been injured. He was rolling.

    The team started better with CJ starting and Raja out.

    This team is in a death spiral.

    This is going to end like a bad accident..people are going to start watching us for the same reasons they keep tabs on the cavaliers.

    Anyone doubting why Jerry bailed off this sinking ship?

    Jerry's system works if players are committed and run it. It usually will work even with injuries (see Jerrys record even with starters out) but when the players won't trust and commit to the system, break off plays, and jack up shots with nobody in rebounding position, fight through screens like sissies, only play defense when convenient, yada, yada, yada, ....well, then you get what we have now.

    If nothing else I hope they all get humbled and realize they aren't much good individually and perhaps then they will recommit to what works.

  • Elcapitan Ivins, UT
    Feb. 17, 2011 11:31 a.m.

    Re: Bugoff

    He has it just right. Read his post. Yes, we need another BIG. Fez has not got the talent. It should be apparent by now. Will Okur ever get back to his full strength? We have been limping along for some time now. Time is fleeting.

  • Mang salt lake city, UT
    Feb. 17, 2011 11:18 a.m.

    If D-will's wrist is still hurting and he has been playing hurt, it would be wise for him to NOT play in the all-star game. Instead, he should concentrate on healing that wrist and concentrating on the rest of the season. Looks like the whole team has hit a brick wall. The supposed leader of our team has become nothing but a whiner this past year. And for you commentators who keep bringing up Sloan's name - he's gone (for whatever reasons), move on, get over it.

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    Feb. 17, 2011 10:51 a.m.

    Captain..Under Jerry CJ was averaging about 20 minutes a game. Under Corbin, 40 minutes a game. Dwill, Millsap and AJ are used to the minutes, CJ is not. He is tired at the end of the game and you need your legs to shoot. The problem is there is no bench right now. Once CJ's body adapts to more minutes he will be better closing.

  • 1984 for life Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 17, 2011 10:23 a.m.

    A few points on the Jazz:

    1) Not D-Wills fault. Hurt his wrist in January and has been playing hurt ever since

    2) O'Conner refuses to make a trade. If free agents won't come to Utah, what is O'Conner doing sittting on Kirilenko's $ 18M expiring contract? Send him somewhere and get a couple of players in return that are signed for the future.

    3) Only team in the NBA without a consistent outside scoring threat

    4) Hayward is a nice guy and probably a Boy Scout but is NOT the 9th pick of ANY draft.

    5) Bench is awful. Jazz were playing 7 on 12 last night.

    6) Sat behind O'Conner last night and saw him jump up about 10 times to yell at the refs. Not the refs problem. Look in the mirror KOC.

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    Feb. 17, 2011 10:18 a.m.

    Miles: I agree with your statement about CJ starting and the Jazz getting off to a better start. My comment was to Houdini, that the fact that the Jazz have lost the 3 games CJ has started have nothing to do with CJ starting. CJ's starting has been a good thing, finishing games, is a totally different thing. CJ still has to show me he can be dependable in the clutch. I'm still hoping, Corbin likes CJ and will work to build CJ's confidence and hopefully his consistency.

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    Feb. 17, 2011 10:14 a.m.

    The Jazz get burned by the 3 pt shot way too often, they should see that the 3 pt shot is tremendous weapon. I'm not saying we should run an offense like NY or GS but even SA,Dallas,Boston,Orlando,& several other top teams use the 3 pt shot as part of their offense and not as a last resort when the clock is running out.
    I think Corbin will make some changes but it will take some time.
    To me the biggest problem right now is DEFENSE, if he can correct that, things will change for the better. That is a big problem though and getting the players to step up with energy and toughness will be a major challenge.

  • Vince the boonies, mexico
    Feb. 17, 2011 10:11 a.m.

    None of you commentors mention it, so I will. Williams is getting lit up nightly by smaller quicker guards, and his turnovers, bad shooting, and overall hero mentality is disgusting! Trading him now with A.K., Miles, and Memo would bring us the type of players Corbin needs to succeed. Williams himself would get us another quality point guard and a front line player, then the rest would bring in players who will compete on both ends within Corbin and Horny's new system. Just do it O'Connor and Greg it's the only way out of the funk!

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    Feb. 17, 2011 10:05 a.m.

    Captain L that is funny. All season long most every post on here was about the Jazz slow starts.......My statement about CJ starting and the Jazz being ahead is a completely valid point because the Jazz all year long were playing catch up ball. Now with CJ in the starting lineup, we are not behind every game after one quarter.

    The problem is now the Jazz have too many players hurt and no bench. That problem will fix itself as players heal and return to the court. Then the Jazz will start winning games again unless Corbin goes back to the same ol same ol.

  • Hellooo Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 17, 2011 10:01 a.m.

    The Jazz have always focused on the offense. They failed to win the championship because of this. No interior defense, the first place to start a winning team since Eaton left. Note this is the key to both Boston's championship and the Laker's ascendence with Gasol and Bynam. Inside scoring always a Jazz strength is based on hard screens and cuts by the big and small players (a Stockton hall mark), but not a DWill strength. With out such screens and hard cuts, at crunch time when the NBA plays some defense the Jazz offense bogs down and leads to very poor shots on the exterior by poor outside shooters like DWill and inconsistent shooters like CJ. Add this to the Jazz point guards being a step slow and unable to stay in front of even mediocre opposition players (note Lin last nite, and you have a losing team. And, the return of the injured players will not solve these problems. The Jazz have two great pieces to trade Dwill and Kirlenko's expiring contract, time for KOC to get busy.

  • Richie Saint George, UT
    Feb. 17, 2011 9:58 a.m.

    How can we expect a team to play well with 9 players, of which 2 are rookies, one is blind (CJ) and at least 2 are playing injured. Greg your team belongs in the D league.

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    Feb. 17, 2011 9:50 a.m.

    All of you who are crying for trades are delusional, it's not that easy. First you have to find players that will make your team better and at a price that is within the teams financial abilities. The Jazz have some good players, they just need toughness. If Corbin can't get them to play tougher, then maybe they will look to unload who they have. I don't see KOC seeing that he has terrible players like alot of you posting seem to think.
    CJ is not a bad player, he is soft though and if Corbin can't get him to improve, get in better shape, and toughen up he will always be inconsistent.
    Houdini: Your statement about CJ doesn't' make sense, CJ starting and the Jazz being ahead after the 1st quarter is a good thing but totally separate from finishing a game with a win.
    Bugoff: I agree with you again about the 3pt shot, I have complained for years about Sloan not using the 3pt shot as a viable part of the offense. If your team is prepared & know the 3pt shot is coming, they can get long rebounds and second chances

  • Sokol Las Vegas, NM
    Feb. 17, 2011 9:48 a.m.

    20 games ago is when there were rumors of a rift between Coach Sloan and the players. Williams won out, but he forgot that the reason he was so good is because of the disciplined Sloan system. The other problem is that we have slow, constantly injured stiffs. Maybe there is a Jefferson curse?

  • KK Cedar Hills, UT
    Feb. 17, 2011 9:45 a.m.

    That was a great defensive effort at the end letting Curry and Ellis drive to the hoop for layups. At least we have BYU to watch until round 2 or 3 of March Madness.

  • OhYea Delta, Utah
    Feb. 17, 2011 9:07 a.m.

    DWill wants to run. When we did, they were totally out of control, lots of turn overs and poor shots. How many points did the Warriors get at the same time? And you can't blame everything on CJ. Although I've never liked him. But when the Jazz needed the points the most, they ALL started taking J's from the parking lot. Like the Jazz players are afraid of all the other teams in the league so we're going to. Forget about a post season because it won't happen. They won't work the system cuz DWill and the players know more than the coaches. Can you say Utah Cav's?

  • klepsydra Longmont, CO
    Feb. 17, 2011 9:06 a.m.

    Dump CJ, and Jefferson, get a real center and a consistent shooter that plays defense.

  • migbard Castle Dale, UT
    Feb. 17, 2011 9:01 a.m.

    Shooting comes and goes. If Williams knows the problem is "no confidence" then he needs to get the confidence and make the dang shots. Jazz are allowing too many points. We have enough scoring. Make some trades and get some defenders.

  • Sneaky Jimmy Oak Town, CA
    Feb. 17, 2011 8:51 a.m.

    If you can't take it inside against the warriors then you just can't take it inside. The Jazz have no outside game but its easier to chuck them up from out there because no one hurts you. It's becoming more obvious why Sloan was so frustrated. Just a bunch of weaklings. Monta is an all star and should be going. The Warriors now officially own the Jazz.

  • The Great Houdini Rye, CO
    Feb. 17, 2011 8:48 a.m.

    As a Jazz fan for over 30 years,since day 1,I am really starting to question the direction and even the future of this team.Williams I do believe will be gone,Houston,Dallas and LA are on his radar.We won`t compete for a title anytime soon,even if we make a 6,7,8 seed this year,SA,Dallas and LA awaits us.I`m realistic and know we don`t have the horses to win it all,but I`d at least like to be in the mix.We lost Boozer and Matthews,2 starters also Korver and Brewer,2 good reliable bench players,replaced by,Jefferson,Bell,Hayward,Evans and Watson,a poor trade-off,and I won`t even mention miles....

  • allpurposeanimal salt lake, utah
    Feb. 17, 2011 8:47 a.m.

    Its like somebody flipped a switch about 20 games ago with this teams. I could see it in their faces.I just want to know,,,, WHAT HAPPEND!!!????

  • The Great Houdini Rye, CO
    Feb. 17, 2011 8:24 a.m.

    Reggie Miller mentioned on telecast the other day that "playing the Jazz was like a boxing match" when or lose you were gonna hurt.That my fellow Jazz fans was quite a while back,ended with Harpring.We are soft,miles is now the typical Jazz player,soft,afraid of contact on either end and more than happy to run down the clock and be forced to clank a shot,it`s sad

  • B Russ Ephraim, UT
    Feb. 17, 2011 8:03 a.m.

    Maybe the lottery is no consolation. Didn't we trade that pick for Jefferson?

  • Doug10 Roosevelt, UT
    Feb. 17, 2011 7:56 a.m.

    Sloan would have won that game with intimidation alone.

    When the Jazz play without AK, Okur and Bell and Price it is like the stars have aligned. Okur last game he played he missed a 2 footer. Our veteran Bell is being introduced to his shot again and the season is half over.

    Price is an enregizer bunny without a shot, great dunk but no shot...ever.

    AK being hurt is trying to hide under the trade radar in hopes the Jazz are so rich they don't notice his $17M payday every year.

    Here is hoping that KOC has something up his sleeve. I think maybe after the coaching change KOC may consider a change for himself.

    Does anyone out there think the Jazz are a great shooting team, with Deron, CJ, Jefferson, Bell, Price to name a few who are stinking up the court with their shots. A really good move would be to promote the shooting coach. Too bad they already did that, it is paying off big time so far.

    This was Golden State and the days are not long past when Jazz did not even consider them a blip on the radar....not now though

  • cvguy Lehi, Utah
    Feb. 17, 2011 7:39 a.m.

    Isn't the end of games where your all-star point guard should lead the team? Close games down the stretch should be where D-Will seals the deal and gets the team a 'W'.

  • Hugh G. Hater SLC, UT
    Feb. 17, 2011 7:10 a.m.

    DWill appears to have done what Sloan did: quit on the team.

  • bgl Santa Monica, CA
    Feb. 17, 2011 7:04 a.m.

    If Coach Dwill would get his guards to stay with quicker players--and then stay with them himself, he might be able to design something in the middle to help his big men out when the quick guards drive to the hoop. It is well exposed that Nash, Ellis and anyone with a pulse is capable of breaking down the perimeter d and driving to the hoop. Coach Dwill needs to design a defense that can at least address this. Coach Sloan used to like guys who were absolute animals when it came to staying with their man. Coach Dwill doesn't seem to think it's that important.

  • one day... South Jordan, UT
    Feb. 17, 2011 6:48 a.m.

    People used to blame coach Sloan and now???

    The blame should be on the players, they are not BUYING the coach's system, what happened with the pick and roll? what happened with the system that have worked for decades, THEY rea not buying it!!!

    They think that it's old school BUT WORKED!!!

    Trade Okur, Elson, Miles and get someone "A" List!!!

  • John Wicks Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 17, 2011 6:47 a.m.

    I get so tired of hearing and 1. Can't anyone on the team make a hard foul and make them earn their points at the line. This team lacks mental toughness and a bench. CJ should be packaged in a trade by next week. He is not even D league material. D-Will does not belong at the all star game. He is a poor leader. Should trade him for a high draft pick.

  • md Smithfield, UT
    Feb. 17, 2011 6:29 a.m.

    Losing Matthews and Korver was a HUGE mistake.

  • Pipes Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 17, 2011 6:29 a.m.

    CJ needs discipline. He was a liability in the 4th quarter.

  • Bugoff Houston, TX
    Feb. 17, 2011 5:59 a.m.

    CJs shooting percentage goes down when the paint is pack and the offense bogs down.

    There have never been any 3 point plays to speak of in the Jazz system. For the most part 3s are the last option when things go bad inside.

    That was part of Sloan's deeply flawed philosophy which never adequately adjusted for the evolution of the 3 point shot.

    Sloan caused more TOs (poor transitions) by forcing the ball into packed paint than were ever caused by long rebounds from missed 3 point shots. Besides if you actually designed 3 point plays the percentage made would go up.

    Korver claimed he never had a play designed for him. How is that for great coaching?

    Corbin is still learning how to manage a game. Given the very limited resources he has I would say he is doing okay.

    Corbin used very little of the flex in this game. He has done a decent job of utilizing AJ.

    The Jazz run out of energy and have poor D because they do not have enough quality depth.

    Fix that problem and Corbin will start winning.

    They have 30 mill worth of players out right now.

  • Liberal Ted Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 17, 2011 5:56 a.m.

    It's time to start cutting players pay. They are being paid way too much for their job performance. Anyone else in the this world would have been fired by now.

  • The Great Houdini Rye, CO
    Feb. 17, 2011 3:52 a.m.

    "since cj has been starting,the Jazz have been leading after the first quarter" wow! have you ever won a game after the first quarter? We miss AK and Raja who both had been playing well when injured.So far miles 3 starts,3 loses,tell you something?

  • josemb navotas, philippines
    Feb. 17, 2011 1:43 a.m.

    3 games recently lost... what's sad is that those games could've been won with good offensive execution in the closing minutes of the game. (kinda like what sloan would demand from his players) last 2 minutes and all you see are botched-up plays and hurried 3 point attempts. where have all the hard screens and hard cuts gone? millsap and jefferson were having good games against the warriors, and yet, all we saw were 3 point attempts by miles and williams in last minutes of the game. geez. i wanted to point out the awful defense but it's the new jazz; they don't believe in defense anymore!

  • cowboy99 South Jordan, UT
    Feb. 17, 2011 1:17 a.m.

    CJ has a really goofy looking shot. Mechanically it's an absolute mess so it's really no wonder he can be so inconsistent. The only thing he can really do is wait for the off-season and then doing a serious revamp of his shooting motion with Hornezec. He's pretty good off the dribble but doesn't see the passing opportunities he creates when he does drive to the basket and misses a lot of open guys.

    Al Jefferson is the most overrated player on the team. Every time I see him take his LAME turn around push shot I feel like puking. His help "defense" on the pick and roles actually makes things worse because he just gets in the way creating this wild double moving screen for his teammate to try to run around. Is anyone surprised this is the first time he's won 30+ games in a season?

  • B Russ Ephraim, UT
    Feb. 17, 2011 12:45 a.m.

    The Jazz are playing some of the worst defense I have ever seen and not just in the 4th quarter either. The whole freakin game. I do not see how any team could expect to win with this kind of poor defensive effort. I cannot believe this is the kind of play the Millers are getting from this luxury tax team. With these guys you just don't get what you pay for. Not even close.

  • Kyle loves BYU/Jazz Provo, UT
    Feb. 17, 2011 12:07 a.m.

    "CJ is playing much better under Corbin"

    Yeah I'm not sure I really need to say much about that but based on what I saw in the 4th quarter I'm gonna stick with CJ being a chucker who can't consistently hit open 3s no matter who his coach is!

  • byronbca Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 16, 2011 11:34 p.m.

    I have a feeling the Jazz are going to get blown up around the trade deadline. The front office isn't going to pay a luxury tax for a bad team. This team as it is right now will not make the playoffs.

    I hate to say it but I have a hard time believing that AK is going to finish the season in a Jazz uni.

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    Feb. 16, 2011 11:30 p.m.

    CJ is playing much better under Corbin.

    Yes he should start instead of Bell.

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    Feb. 16, 2011 11:24 p.m.

    I think Corbin really likes CJ and will give him every chance to prove he can be a go to guy. CJ has the talent, it will depend on whether or not he will work hard enough. Time will tell, so far he's too inconsistent, but I will continue to hope.
    This teams defense is terrible and unless they play Fes more I don't see anything changing. Fes gives the perimeter player someone to cover their backsides when they get beat off the dribble, which is most of the time.
    Hopefully Corbin will evaluate and see that is the case and start using Fes more.

  • toddfromsantaana Santa Ana, CA
    Feb. 16, 2011 11:22 p.m.

    CJ Great? Hee hee yeah when the Jazz needed him down the stretch he chucks 3s goes back to old habits when his defense and driving were effective in the 3rd quarter.

    CJ was simply maavelous 1-6 in the 4th quarter. Sloan/Corbin decided lets pack the paint and give another career night to Reggie Williams even the legendary Jeremy Lin.

    Ellis destroys Watson and friends. He is an all star. The Warriors 3 point basket show in the 2nd half is the story again tonight. The lack of Fesenko being used, Evans doing great 6 points, 6 boards and only 10 minutes.

    The Jazz actually played defense in the 3rd Quarter getting a lot of steals. In the 4th, then the Warriors knew the Jazz were not defending 3s especially on the left, so focused on this. It worked and would have worked sooner had they elected to go with it.

    So tonight 9th in the West. Dallas next week on Wed.

    Still the mass are happy feeling no trades, injured players back will turn the Jazz around happily therafter and to challenge LA or SA for the World Title.

    Hee hee

  • Kyle loves BYU/Jazz Provo, UT
    Feb. 16, 2011 11:05 p.m.

    No shooters on this team. Our only consistent shooter is a center whose career may be over.

    Not to mention the terrible defense they played in the fourth quarter. Ellis carved the defense up and they shooters didn't chuck up bricks like CJ did.

    Bad loss. 5 in a row at home. Never seen that in my lifetime thats for sure.

  • deno22 Rexburg, ID
    Feb. 16, 2011 11:01 p.m.

    Their defense just fizzled at the end, they got tired. But man oh man why is it the Suns have like 5 three point shooters, the Warriors have like 4 and the Jazz have 1 every 5 games or so when CJ can hit. It is frustrating they lead they whole game then blow it.

    Does anyone really ever expect Okur to come back? I think his career may be done. Better start preparing for it.

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    Feb. 16, 2011 10:58 p.m.

    Miles: AK needs to start, and CJ needs to start at the 2, Bell is the one that needs to come off the bench.

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    Feb. 16, 2011 10:53 p.m.

    Let's see.......Three starters out with injuries (Memo, Bell and AK) plus a bench player in Price who plays good against the small Warriors.

    4 0f 5 of the starters logging over 40 minutes two nights in a row. Even Phil Jackson would not have won this game.

    Other points.......Most of you say that Jerry was one of the best coaches in basketball and he couldn't win with this team and his system. So bring in Corbin, with no head coaching experience and running the same system with the same players. Did any of you think the Jazz were really going to start winning games? On paper the Jazz are worse off now than when they lost 9 of 12 with Jerry.

    More....Since CJ has been in the starting lineup, the Jazz have been leading after the first quarter. Shows that AK should come off the bench and CJ should be starting.

    More....Memo if healthy should start and Millsap should be a 6th man on this team with AK.

    Bell needs to be traded immediately........

    CJ kept us in the game in the 3rd quarter and you all complain

  • Jazz-Nation Lehi, UT
    Feb. 16, 2011 10:41 p.m.

    I have been saying all season long long that we need more shooters.


    Nobody should be exempt from a trade if it makes us better.

    Bring in Kamen to play center, he can rebound.

    Shooters are a dime a dozen, take your pick.
    We have trade assets, expiring contracts and other options. I hope the Jazz make some moves, or it's going to be a liong season, one I will stop paying to watch.

  • Sentinel Ogden, UT
    Feb. 16, 2011 10:39 p.m.

    Maybe the Jazz are trying to become a lottery team?

  • Kakashi Tokyo, Japan
    Feb. 16, 2011 10:14 p.m.

    I think Big Al has a curse...i mean...he only tasted one winning season...and he was a bench player at a time...maybe he is bad luck...lol....we should have chased david west with the boozer TPE...although...David West is a PF...at least...millsap would be coming off the bench...leading the second unit...him coming off the bench is a major boost...has anyone noticed this? the years millsap came off the bench providing a spark...its like having another starting PF...nowadays...who comes off the bench to provide low post scoring? none...low post scoring means high percentage shots...im going to give credit to CJ for having a good game...though the last quarter was not that good...overall he is ok...

  • duke5 vancouver, wa
    Feb. 16, 2011 10:10 p.m.

    About one week to go Come on KOC...let's get some players. If we get much worse we should all leave the Jazz and watch Corbin's son play for West High.

  • Doctor J Manti, UT
    Feb. 16, 2011 10:08 p.m.

    How do you like coach Williams?

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    Feb. 16, 2011 10:04 p.m.

    I know missing shots tonight was frustrating but defense is the biggest problem.

  • as186451 Bellevue, WA
    Feb. 16, 2011 10:04 p.m.

    Can anyone tell me why Milsap is in to finish games? He gives zero.

  • Bugoff Houston, TX
    Feb. 16, 2011 9:56 p.m.

    The TOs mostly come from packed paint. The poor D comes from too many minutes.

  • Bugoff Houston, TX
    Feb. 16, 2011 9:54 p.m.

    Same Song 3rd Verse.

    The starters logged 40 minutes. By the 4th Q they could not play intense D.

    The opponents packed the paint. There was not enough 3 point shooting to open it up. GS gambled and doubled inside.

    Until AK, Bell and maybe Okur get healthy enough to play effectively this will continue to happen.

    It is not a lack of effort or even talent.

    This team was poorly designed from the start. There was never enough outside shooting.

    Sloan/KOC bet on Okur getting healthy, Hayward shooting, and on Bell and AK staying healthy.

    The Jazz a wing who can shoot and 3rd decent big so they can rotate AJ, Millsap and ?. If you add those two pieces the Jazz contend.

    With Hayward starting to develop they have 4 okay wings but still lack outside shooting. They do not have the 3rd big.

    I am not sure how much longer AK and Bell will be out but this will continue until the Jazz can unpack the paint and give some rest to the 5 starters for a 4Q push.

    The players played hard. They played pretty well. They need more resources.

    Get a shooter.

  • gazelle Murray, UT
    Feb. 16, 2011 9:54 p.m.

    Tough loss again. They started to look good there for a bit in that fourth quarter.

    Again CJ what is your problem man? I am not a fan at all. His shot selection is so so poor. The guy is on an island. WHO GAVE HIM THIS GREEN LIGHT TO SHOOT THE WAY HE DOES???? Guys miss he is human , but good grief in that fourth quarter I was coming unglued watching him continue to chuck them up. 1 for 6. And the one he makes was a layup. Go figure..

  • Fuzzbrain Pleasant Grove, UT
    Feb. 16, 2011 9:53 p.m.

    The Jazz just aren't a very good defensive team, & it seems like the entire league knows how to beat them now.

  • dhsalum Saint George, UT
    Feb. 16, 2011 9:49 p.m.

    Anyone surprised when they read this title??

    Apparently with coach Sloan, they couldnt start well and with Corbin, they cant finish.
    I think statman has the best possible solution, though...

  • samuel h wiscomb Sun Lakes, AZ
    Feb. 16, 2011 9:43 p.m.

    Better D + fewer TO's + more points= more points

  • SportsFan101 Bountiful, UT
    Feb. 16, 2011 9:38 p.m.

    I am officially DISGUSTED by this season. Keep DWill, Jefferson and Hayward. Rebuild for next year to make some serious noise. Non-salvageable season for anything worthwhile besides a first round dismissal.

  • statman9 South Jordan, UT
    Feb. 16, 2011 9:35 p.m.

    Time to draft Jimmer!