Utah Jazz: The Mailman makes a special delivery, fiercely defends his former coach

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  • Jazzsmack Holladay, UT
    Feb. 14, 2011 5:13 p.m.

    Karl malone never delivered anyting unless it was the ball to mj's hands.

    Sloan systm effective but limited.

    When you neeed a player to create something, you could not, bevause it built getting the ball to the PF,

    ALL other postion are an ofeter thought,

    and the players you need to shoot and create did NOT want to play here, wher the no lays for them all could was stand aoround while stocton and malone did ther thing,

    so system good regualr season success,

    VERY HORRIBLE in big games, playoffs, and when you a player who can handle the ball, create and shoot and to make things happen,

    I witneessed to many times stockton and malone shutdown in the fourth quaters,

    and no great 2 or 3 to take over

    all this old school and toughness is WAY OVER rated.

    too many players have foughy with coach sloan, even malone, and been in his doghouse, and many left for greenr pastures,

    blame the lplayers, whatever.

    ignorat sycphant jazz fans never put blamve where it should be.

  • hardtaill Salt Lake City, Utah
    Feb. 13, 2011 3:27 p.m.

    Malone knows what he's talking about.
    The problem across the NBA is the salaries.
    College ball is fun to watch because they're
    really trying to earn the fat paychecks.
    The best thing for this league is to switch
    to a performance-based pay system.
    After all, the players are only human and will
    choose to mentally sit it out if the coin
    is guaranteed.

  • Dennis Harwich, MA
    Feb. 13, 2011 8:10 a.m.

    The trifecta is complete. Stockton, Malone and Sloan are now gone.
    I can finally root for this band of losers.

  • jazz_man Fajardo, PR
    Feb. 13, 2011 6:33 a.m.

    And to answer your other question as to why we see more talent leaving Utah rather than coming in. I will agree with you that the Coach had something to do with it, players these days expect everything to be handed to them on a silver platter and are under the impression that the world revolves around them. So when they play for a tough as nails Coach like Sloan who expects you to give it your all nite in/nite out and will hold you accountable for your actions, that creates certain conflict, so they leave somewhere else where they can be pampered. The other reason players leave or refuse to play here is because Utah is a small market team and like most small markets they simply lack the necessary resources to compete against the bigger markets.

  • jazz_man Fajardo, PR
    Feb. 13, 2011 6:27 a.m.

    I'm not saying that Jerry Sloan was a perfect Coach, he has made mistakes just like every other Coach in the league, you are never going to find a person who has never made a mistake in their life (even Phil Jackson got fired from one of his first coaching gigs, If I'm not mistaken). But when you're going against the greatest player to ever play the game, the odds are going to be seriously stacked against you. It's so easy for us to sit here and criticize a person's every move, but ask yourself this: would you, me or any other fan out there would have been able to do a better job? Ask yourself that.

  • jazz_man Fajardo, PR
    Feb. 13, 2011 6:25 a.m.

    Again, name me one Coach whose game plan was so perfect, so flawless that they were able to overcome Jordan's Bulls during their championship years. You can nitpick all you want (inadequate substitution patterns, didn't call a timeout at the right moment, bad rotation, etc) and say they didn't do this or didn't do that but sometimes you just have to give credit where credit is due. How many times have we've seen this particular scenario over the years: the players ran whatever play exactly as the coach wanted and did every little thing that the coach asked them to do out of a timeout, yet still end up losing simply because they were bested by a superior opponent. If something like that happens all you can do is tip your hat to them and acknowledge the fact that were the better team.

  • clothesguy Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Feb. 12, 2011 10:57 p.m.

    Malone as a coach??? Please,LOL The biggest cry baby in the NBA. That's all the Jazz would need? Stockton understood team work? Malone understood give me the ball or I'll throw a tandrom. He set records because of the percentage he got the ball, but when playoff time came the opposing team had Stockton to Malone pick and roll figured out. THen Malone's points and percentages fell, sometimes 40%. Also come playoff time, Sloan's sub patterns cost the (Jazz_Man) many a game. Sloan has seen his day. He deserves respect. He's no Phil Jackson or Pat Riley. Noted, Sloan has a great winning record, but with that record, shouldn't there have been a title or 2 in there? I would think so? He has these records because of the players that came thru here, but how many of these players didn't stay around? That would be nice to figure out also. WHy so many good players have left the Jazz organization? The Jazz are going to have rebuild now and quickly and wisely. I don't know if they have what it takes to do that at present. Time will tell.

  • NeilT Clearfield, UT
    Feb. 12, 2011 8:34 p.m.

    The lowest paid player in the NBA is paid more than many people with graduate degrees from prestigious universities. I think a lot of players are just spoiled brats that are just there for the big bucks. Stockton and Malone were true professionals that understood teamwork, loyalty, and appreciated the opportunities the Jazz gave them. I admired Coach Sloan to. They were all human and sometimes put their foot in their mouth. Haven't we all at times.

  • SoCalUte Trabuco Canyon, CA
    Feb. 12, 2011 7:36 p.m.

    @ Big Hapa... It's obvious that you have never laced up a pair of shoes and stepped out on a court or field of competition. Everyone has the ability to give all they have... and then reach way down inside and give a little more, when it really counts.
    Now days, it's called "old school" New school is give 80% and be spoon fed the rest.

  • 1tobeamup Murray, UT
    Feb. 12, 2011 6:06 p.m.

    Im my opinion, the most interesting comment of Karl's is the one about "watching and breaking down tape." THAT was a comment made by D Will about 2 or 3 weeks into the season. I wish D Will was more like Karl, John, and now Big Al - humble, unpretentious, and without such an entitlement attitude!

  • Hank Pym SLC, UT
    Feb. 12, 2011 4:47 p.m.

    Doctor J | 8:38 a.m. Feb. 12, 2011
    Manti, UT
    **It may be Tim "Pretty Boy" Legler, that missed two weeks with a hangnail.

    Legler was to "Pretty" for the Jazz's bump and grind style in the 90's.**

    Gee! It may also be Amaechi. He was too pretty also and did not get along w/ Sloan then neither did Ostertag.

    I did not care for Malone when he played & his thoughts were relevant. Now, Doesn't he have pasture land Arkansas that needs to be weeded.

    Sloan's style of Basketball reminds me of Woody Hayes & Football. Its basketball; who cares? Wake me when baseball and NFL Free agency are here.

  • jazz_man Fajardo, PR
    Feb. 12, 2011 4:05 p.m.

    I can understand some fans reasoning that If he was gonna chase after a title somewhere he probably should have done so with some other team other than the much hated Lakers. But that still doesn't change my opinion towards him and it certainly doesn't take away all the blood, sweat and tears, all the sacrifice that he put into this organization. He may not have always said or done the right thing but he always meant well and would always put the priorities of the team first and foremost, unlike some players today.

  • jazz_man Fajardo, PR
    Feb. 12, 2011 3:58 p.m.

    You are absolutely right in your assessment that Karl did had his share of run-ins with Sloan, Miller etc. That's part of the game, but like he said no matter how many arguments or how many disagreements he had with management at the end of the day when all the players steeped onto the basketball court there was no doubt on anyone's mind that Coach Sloan was running the show and that they were gonna do things his way. Stockton, Malone or whoever may have had their fair share of disagreements with him but they would always stand by the coach through thick and thin, It was a lot like family really. I may have arguments with my family every now and then but there is no doubt on my mind that If some outsider would start a fight with me I can guarantee you that my family would have my back no matter what. That is what was lost here after the passing of Miller, this organization became a business. I guess Sloan realized that the organization would no longer support him and decided to call it a day.

  • jazz_man Fajardo, PR
    Feb. 12, 2011 3:53 p.m.

    @Clothesguy, I respectfully disagree with your points of view. I for one wouldn't mind seeing the old school brought back, I understand that Pro Sports just like everything else in life has to keep changing/evolving in order to maintain it's survival but when the so called new school way of doing things clearly isn't getting it done might as well bring back something that actually works and has been proven time and time again. Can you honestly say that the reason for the Jazz's inability to win a championship was because of poor decision making by their Coach? They just had the misfortune of playing against the greatest of all time, there's no shame in that. Might as well say that the other teams who faced Jordan in the finals (Lakers, Blazers, Suns, and Sonics) all lost to him because they were cursed with incompetent Coaching aswell.

  • louisiana jazz man Dubach, LA
    Feb. 12, 2011 3:51 p.m.

    malone done backed off the coaching gig he said his son is playing baseball and he will be there to watch. maby on down the road. malone is what they need but ain't happening. he is building shopping centers in ruston has several farms. construction co.but he would be there alot if he was asked. don't see that happening he might hurt dwills feelings. probley already has.

  • JK in S Portland, OR
    Feb. 12, 2011 2:11 p.m.

    Somebody start a "Hire Karl Malone" FB page

  • eagle Provo, UT
    Feb. 12, 2011 2:06 p.m.

    Barkley is not who Malone is talking about. I think what Barkley was saying when he said he was disappointing was that he was not disappointed in Sloan but how the Jazz were playing for Sloan. He thought he deserved better. Barkley has always defended Sloan and his approach...

  • bballjunkie Cedar Hills, UT
    Feb. 12, 2011 2:01 p.m.

    The only way that I am truly going to be able to move on, is if Karl and Horny are named the 2 new coaches. Greg, KOC you can help clear your image if you get this done.

  • Al Bundy murray, ut
    Feb. 12, 2011 1:39 p.m.

    I am a coach Sloan fan, that said I think he should have left a few years back? I love to talk Jazz basketball and have hardly ever heard anyone over the past few years say much positive about Coach Sloans sub patterns as well as his system proving to be just good, but not great! Seems as if he had taken the team as far as they could go, very consistent with basically the same results every year. Now the same people who complained about Coach are outraged and want to run our best player off? Every team in the NBA is anxiously awaiting the news that D-Will is on the block! He will be grabbed up by a top level team and the Jazz will regret it! Let's hope all the players gel with Coach Corbin! Great to see Karl at the game! The greatest power forward ever!!! Reward Coach Sloan with a upper management position!!!

  • cory salt lake, utah
    Feb. 12, 2011 1:34 p.m.

    #1 Malone rhyme's with Sloan.
    #2 Take out the "Ma" and replace it with "S" and it sounds like Sloan!!
    #3 Jerry and Karl ------????? OK no comparisons there. But coach Sloan, coach Malone. It sounds good to me!
    We as fans are no better than the players that we are calling babies. Did you think Coach Sloan would be around forever?? Maybe we all need to look in the mirror. We have all been a little spoiled with the quality of leadership and basketball in this community. So let's look in the mirror and smile a little bigger. Fans, Players and Coaches. Cut some slack and move forward with the great support this community is famous for. Now that's Jazz Basketball!!! Go team!!

  • dwillfan Provo, UT
    Feb. 12, 2011 12:55 p.m.

    i could totally see karl as an assistant coach for the jazz. he, much like sloan, wouldn't put up with their lazy and lackadaisical ball playing and would let them know. of course, he'd also be there in the gym with them, getting them in "karl malone shape."

    koc, PLEASE make a trade!!!

  • UU32 Bountiful, UT
    Feb. 12, 2011 12:45 p.m.

    Truthfully, without Sloan, my interest is now gone. I don't even care if they become the Las Vegas Jazz. Larry Miller, John Stockton, Karl Malone, Mark Eaton, Jeff Hornacek, Thurl Baily, Phil Johnson, Jerry Sloan, Frank Layden -- those are the Jazz. It isn't even really those people or specific names but the way that they approached the game. No one in the organization (save Hornacek's return) now approaches the game the same way - Greg Miller inclusive. D Will is a spolied brat that is completely overrated - utterly and completely. Millsap and Jefferson are big babies. AK is a wimp. KOC should have been gone a long time ago. Even the radio staff is nothing like what we used to have. David Locke only cares about is stats, Bolerjack thinks he is a bigshot and is full of himself. Give me Hot Rod and Blackwell of yesteryear. I am through with the Utah Jazz. Sell the team, do whatever - it doesn't matter.

  • apa salt lake, utah
    Feb. 12, 2011 12:39 p.m.

    Most of the players on this team are not tough enough to play Jerry Sloan basketball. They cried, "Jerry were is our movie (film) And warm milk." Jerry always said he is not a baby sitter. Get your own milk! Jerry eats meat. The game has not passed Jerry, these players just could not keep up. Thanks coach Malone!!

  • The Great Houdini Rye, CO
    Feb. 12, 2011 12:30 p.m.

    I`ll jump in on Karl`s side on this,pretty simple,the Jazz system works/worked,even when the best teams knew exactly what we were gonna do,they were unable to stop it,this really may be the end of the Jazz as we`ve known them,it`s sad

  • BleedCougarBlue Enid, OK
    Feb. 12, 2011 12:18 p.m.

    I would LOVE to know what really went down that caused Coach Sloan to walk away but quite frankly, Sloan is such a classy person (read that as "he has too much love and respect for the Jazz and what he wants them to become") I doubt he will EVER open up to anyone, probably including his wife, about what caused him to quit half-way through the season.

    All this is terribly, tragically sad.

    Goodbye Coach Sloan. Thanks for the memories.....

  • scodyshootfight KC, MO
    Feb. 12, 2011 12:14 p.m.

    Thank God for guys like Karl Malone who don't sugar coat it and are man enough to call it like it is. I would LOVE to have the Mailmain back on the sidelines.

    I'm shocked that D-Won't didn't get hammered with boos. Sloan IS the Jazz. I'm sickened that the Jazz catered to D-Won't and didn't come to Sloan's aid, but I'm grateful for loyal people like Phil and the Mailmain who had his back. I have his back too.

  • kiaoraguy Provo, UT
    Feb. 12, 2011 12:05 p.m.

    look at that photo- Karl could step on the court today and 'old school' these babies playing. He isn't perfect, but he is a true everyman- speaks his mind, respects others, plays beyond tough- man, do I miss him and John.

  • Richie Saint George, UT
    Feb. 12, 2011 11:50 a.m.

    ESPN is full of dummies, but the main problem is that Greg Miller has no backbone. Otherwise he would have shown O'Connor the door and be totally engrossed in D-Will's early departure.

  • louisiana jazz man Dubach, LA
    Feb. 12, 2011 11:34 a.m.

    karl calles it like he see's it. in louisiana he has a construction co with heavy equipment. when katrina hit he took his bull dozers down to new orleans to help clean out the street's some goverment agent come up to him and told him he had to have a permit to be there working equipment. karl told him he could stick that permit were the sun don't shine. keep on cleaning street's.

  • clothesguy Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Feb. 12, 2011 11:22 a.m.

    Sorry, a couple more comments. I am an suite holder along with several season tickets in the lower bowl. We had some great games back in the 90's. We had some exciting players come and go. We have sent some great potential to other teams. The reason that happened in my opinion is just what occured this last week. THese players were young and needed "coaching". Sloan couldn't coach young players. Not his expertise. Sloan had a strong work ethic, no doubt but as far as building a comradory(sorry about the spelling), we never really saw that tight bond on the team that a championship team had. We have had some exceptional teams. THere are a few of those years we should have had a championship, but having watched so many games, the reason that I believe that we didn't beat the bulls were 2 reasons. The coaching mistakes, that were huge, and then Karl Malone didn't show up during the playoffs. He started his fishing season a bit to early. 1/2 the points he normally got? almost every playoff? Sloan was great but he had great players too. why no championship?

  • CocoNutzz Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 12, 2011 11:20 a.m.

    Mailman is talking about Mark Jackson. When he was here he almost drove Sloan to retire and divided the locker room against Stockton

  • clothesguy Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Feb. 12, 2011 11:10 a.m.

    Malone, you don't go back to old school, old ways? Olds ways doesn't make new teams. His old ways, as you know because you had your rifts with Malone and then let's not mention your actions with Mr. Miller. Then let's not talk about the largest betrayel in Jazz history. Karl Malone leaves to play for the lakers? It kind of showed how easy the Jazz made you what you were because the only play the team knew was Stockton to Malone, which don't get me wrong was exciting and fun, but every team in the NBA knew what we were playing? Stockton to Malone? There is not an "I" in team... Sorry Karl, but Sloan should have gone about 10 years ago, but becuz Mr. Miller is such a sentimental individual, he didn't make the change that should have been done. Unlike the player who said he would finish his career in a Jazz uniform and then what did he do? So Mr. Malone. Let's keep it real.

  • Jazz-Nation Lehi, UT
    Feb. 12, 2011 11:10 a.m.

    Sir Charles Barkely loves the Jazz and loves coach Sloan, he always says good thing about the Jazz and he works for TNT, not ESPN. FYI

    Marc Jackson works for ESPN,I assume Karl is refering to Jackson.

    Karl made a great point when he was talking about the pick and roll, no question Deron needs to study film and see how this play is untouchable when correctly performed. Sloan called a lot of pick and rolls and it won a lot of games for the Jazz over the years.

    Keep working hard, go Jazz!

  • eagle Provo, UT
    Feb. 12, 2011 11:01 a.m.

    I wouldn't be shocked if the Jazz management really pushed him out the door or some serious blow up occurred where Sloan/Johnson wanted some support to discipline Williams and the Jazz brass wouldn't go for it.

    It wouldn't surprise me if there are some health issues either that we might not know about. I hope it isn't. And with Johnson it was a good time to step out with his friend.

    But the fact the both go together is perplexing and makes me think there is some management issues going on. The fact that he didn't wait until the end of the season is also perplexing. Most coaches, unless really, really upset or perhaps suffering from some health concerns, step down in the middle of the season. It isn' t in their nature and certainly not Sloan's.

    I wish him and Johnson the best on their next endeavors in life and thank them for their time with the Jazz and helping young men progress in their lives. They were good examples in this regard.

  • JazzyMan Meadow, UT
    Feb. 12, 2011 10:42 a.m.

    The addition of even an average big man would help the Jazz tremendously. Even a guy like Chicago had ,the Turk, would be ok. Someone who has some common sense and who could fit into the offensive scheme of things without making stupid fouls and being in poor rebounding position. I'm talking about Fess especiall,and Elson maybe a little less. I don't know on how many occasions Fess had stuck himself under the basket on a three-point attempt by the Suns with no chance to get a rebound. Hey Fess,get at least a little ways from the basket so you can rebound a relatively long bounce off the rim on a three point shot. Our big Men are the ones who are killing us,not Deron and the rest of the guys.

  • JBQ Saint Louis, MO
    Feb. 12, 2011 10:38 a.m.

    The mailman "delivered". Way to go Karl! Semper Fi.

  • Idaho Ute Rigby, ID
    Feb. 12, 2011 10:38 a.m.

    Malone was talking about Brent/John Barry who is on ESPN.
    I loved hearing what Malone had to say and he is absolutely right. It needed to be said and he made me smile saying it.
    I like players who hate to lose. But they have to have heart and commitment. (It's what made Stockton, Malone and Jordan the stars they were). The Jazz have a few players that hate to lose, but only a couple of them have the heart and commitment. It's why I hated to see Matthews leave. Some think it is enough to play hard and are unwilling to do what they need to on their own to maximize their skills and conditioning.
    If the guys like Williams, Kirilenko, Jefferson and Miles learn this, they will be a great team.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    Feb. 12, 2011 10:27 a.m.

    I lost interest in NBA basketball several years ago. Having the league run by a handfull of ego driven players is simply boring.

    Having said that I do feel trepidation for the Jazz franchize. Dark clouds and loosing appear on the horizon without Sloan.

    The next 20 or so games will determine if the Jazz will continue to be the anomaly ( winning small market team) or the typical small market team.

  • Black & White SLC, UT
    Feb. 12, 2011 10:16 a.m.

    I admire and respect Malone & Stockton & Hornacek so much. This organiztion is NOT the same..., and it makes even a loyal fan as myself have a hard time watch what has gone on.

    IMO, I say watch film on the whole organization, then decide...
    KOC needs to go. His so-called leadership in putting the JAZZ over the salary cap, just to buy a mediocre team is a HUGE mistake (one of many).
    D-Will... I have no respect for this premodonna. If he were a TRUE CAPTAIN, he should have been the FIRST one to talk to Sloan and not stop talking until he convinced him to stay... but not just by word, but by his ACTIONS on & off the court.
    Memo is broken...
    AK is manic...
    Raja has lost his shot...
    CJ is inconsistent...

    Keep Milsap (who at least seems to care), Hayward & Big Al, and go spend your money on a team of guys who actually WORK their tails off, and PROVE they dedicate themselves to practice, film and community, and then show their hardwork ON the COURT.

    If that's OLD SCHOOL then sobeit, I just call it "Doing the job you were paid to do".

  • Smack Jefferson City, MO
    Feb. 12, 2011 10:02 a.m.

    I disagree, Big Hapa. It is possible to give 110%. And I think the phrase is useful.

    If I owe you $100 but I give you $110, I have given you 110% of what I owe you.

    The same is true with most things in life. There is the expected output, and then there is the extra output beyond what is expected. This extra output is often above and beyond what people think or believe is possible. This is what people are referring to when they say that you need to give 110%.

    If you think that 110% is not possible, you might want to re-examine your life. At work, do you just do 100% of your job? Or do you look for opportunities to do a bit more?

    Life is full of 110% opportunities. Don't let them pass you by.


  • Doctor J Manti, UT
    Feb. 12, 2011 9:43 a.m.

    Memo, Linko and cj are all soft an inconsitent...D Will is decent but he is like a spoiled kid. I do not know if you can build around a guy like him. He does not deliver in the clutch and he is not a True Leader. O'Conner is a Joke! Matthews should have never been let go!

  • Coryjc Ogden, UT
    Feb. 12, 2011 9:41 a.m.

    I agree that Malone was definately not talking about Barkley, Charles has always been one of Sloans biggest fans. My first thought was Legler but now that Marc Jacksons name has been brought up that makes sense too.
    Listening to Malone and to the interview that Stockton gave it makes me realize how much I miss those two and how much I will miss Sloan once the shock has worn off. Great bunch of guys.

  • ktsteve Mesa, AZ
    Feb. 12, 2011 9:36 a.m.

    watching the jazz games latley it is so evident that hustle and defense and rebounding first have gone out the window. Go to youtube and watch malone and stock games and watch the hustle and both ends of the floor. It is sickening these guys don't give half the effort malone and stocks teams did. It is no quetstion in my mind why sloan was done. This team will probably rebound and play better with some guys getting better but they are way of the mark.

  • bgl Santa Monica, CA
    Feb. 12, 2011 9:30 a.m.

    I think Dolly might be right. I've never heard Marc Jackson talk about the Jazz where there wasn't a hint of a grudge in his comments. Legler, I don't know about--but I heard Sir Charles shortly after this incident and he seemed saddened and spoke only respectfully about Jerry Sloan--(who HE escorted into the HOF). Chuck also stated that Jerry Sloan was one of his favorite human beings.
    Anyway--who cares? The Mailman is THE man and he is spot on. But, on the other hand--what else should NBA players be when we as a society treat them like we do from the time they are in Jr. High School. Nobody just becomes a spoiled, self involved, self important jerk. Some parent, some coach, some school or some team TEACHES them to be that way. When we point the finger at Dwill, we should be pointing it at every parent that refuses to allow their child to be treated as anything less than an enchanted prince or princess and who roadblocks any effort to mold real character. It's easy to do that when you have none yourself.

  • Old Timer the boonies, mexico
    Feb. 12, 2011 9:25 a.m.

    This team needs (and probaly will) some player changes. The coaching staff knows who they are and other management needs to let them do their house cleaning! If you look at last nights stats they are pretty much a wash except for turnovers and foul shot attempts. Even fouls committed were even. Those lazy passes made by most players were ridiculous and big Al stunk up the joint. To rely on C.J. on a nightly basis is also ridiculous, because he has proven over and over again there is "no" consistency to his game even after 5 1/2 years of experience. This team is just flat out soft. Not one player has the guts to lower the boom on another opposing team player. Trade for a few men management, those that are not afraid of contact. Cleveland could be one team to glean 1 or 2 players from and also let some of these softies see what despair is. Malone riding in on his big white horse won't save this organization but a change in players might!

  • barbara Carlsbad, CA
    Feb. 12, 2011 9:22 a.m.

    Utah's loss is Indiana's gain. Enjoy the fields and the black loam, Jerry!!!! Grow something good back home again in beautiful Indiana.You are a great coach!

  • Doctor J Manti, UT
    Feb. 12, 2011 9:20 a.m.

    Dolly, that is another problem guy...Marc Jackson is one of the worst basketball anouncers in history...I would rather listen to Bill Walton sing the national Anthem over and over again than listen to Marc Jackson for one possession. He always talks about is himself and how he wants to coach...his ego is way bigger than his game!

  • Dolly Sandy, UT
    Feb. 12, 2011 9:13 a.m.

    Not sure, but I think the guy Karl was talking about is Marc Jackson. If I remember right, when he played briefly for the Jazz as a backup point guard (??) he caused bad tension in the locker room trying to divide the players against John Stockton. Anybody else remember this? I can't stand listening to him either (if that is the guy).

  • Doctor J Manti, UT
    Feb. 12, 2011 9:09 a.m.

    When Timmy got waived by the Jazz, I heard that he said Sloan yelled and said bad words to the players and he was glad to be gone from that rough environment.

  • POD Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 12, 2011 9:01 a.m.

    This situation is even worse that you think. O'Conner fired Jerry. Now, KOC lets the blame fall on his star player, Williams (who has some role in this, but not so large as the press has assumed).

    Next, the working press can't seem to get to the story despite all the hints given, including those from Karl last night. Someone should ask KOC, "Did you tell Jerry he was fired on Wednesday night?"

    At last year's opening game, Greg Miller came on the floor and tearfully asked for loyalty. How could he have let this happen? What a disaster for a once-proud organization.

    Fire KOC. Restructure the Jazz.

  • UC UTE Lehi, UT
    Feb. 12, 2011 8:49 a.m.

    I think karl is talking about Tim Legler. As I recall he wasn't well liked when he played here years ago.

  • Cleetorn Fuaamotu, Tonga
    Feb. 12, 2011 8:46 a.m.

    Karl obviously has the inside track on the realities of the situation. I have listened to many of the interviews and to Greg Miller when he announced a whole list of people who "didn't push Coach Sloan out." My tought is that he protests his innocence too much to be beliveable. As previously stated, Jerry Sloan has never walked out on anything. He has given all he is to everything he has done. I can't imagine this is all his idea. He is trying to save face for the organization that he has given his life to.


  • Doctor J Manti, UT
    Feb. 12, 2011 8:38 a.m.

    It may be Tim "Pretty Boy" Legler, that missed two weeks with a hangnail.

    Legler was to "Pretty" for the Jazz's bump and grind style in the 90's.

  • B Russ Ephraim, UT
    Feb. 12, 2011 8:34 a.m.

    Well D Will stuck with the offense for the first half. In the second half he went back to his own playbook. I have some serious concerns about Derons attitude and his coachability. It's looking like he thinks he's alot smarter than any of the coaches. Maybe he should grab a tape of the game and go home and watch it.

  • BigRich Orem, UT
    Feb. 12, 2011 8:13 a.m.

    Players today are spoiled babies that are paid for more than what they're worth, can't handle a coach getting on them, and just want attention like a Hollywood bimbo. And if they're not babies they're thugs who can hardly spell their own name. There are very few players like John Stockton who knew how to keep his head out of the clouds, had values and knew how to listen and be coached. It's the college game for me now.

  • Big Hapa Kaysville, UT
    Feb. 12, 2011 8:06 a.m.

    Loyal friends like Karl have Jerry's back. I know the importance of true friends, it is priceless when you have them.

    Nice touch Karl for your brotherhood and classy constitution of integrity and your example of backing up a friend.

    side note:

    People there is no such percentage of 110 % it is impossible to give more then all you have, I know it is a clever catch phrase, so I am just sayin.

    Poly Cougar Nation

  • Stockton to Malone Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 12, 2011 8:03 a.m.

    it's not barkely, he speaks his mind as much as Malone, he may be wrong sometimes but Malone and barekly are buddies. I think It's someone on espn, their NBA analysis isnt half as good as tnt's. Maybe Jalen Rose or John Berry. it seems like Malone would have the least respect for Berry, but I didn't hear the comments.

  • Weber State Graduate Clearfield, UT
    Feb. 12, 2011 8:02 a.m.

    Once again the Mailman delivers!

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    Feb. 12, 2011 7:43 a.m.

    Times have changed...sad really.

    Malone and Stockton had the opportunity to act like Dwill - but chose not to.

    Not ripping on Dwill but in the "day" you accepted your situation and were appreciative of what you had.

    The NBA business model is broken - at least as far as fans are concerned.

    Thanks for the memories Sloan.

  • ColoJazzFan Louisville, CO
    Feb. 12, 2011 7:30 a.m.

    Thank you Karl!

  • livestrong Springville, UT
    Feb. 12, 2011 7:13 a.m.

    He's talking about Charles Barkley.

    I like that Malone came out in defense of his coach. I've lost a lot of respect for the players on this team if it's true that they were just too lazy or arrogant to run the difficult, but successful system that Sloan ran. We're in more trouble than just having lost a coach in that sense.

  • Brian Utley Freedom, IN
    Feb. 12, 2011 6:59 a.m.

    Isn't it great to have had the privilege of the presence of Mr. Malone in our community for so many years. He is a man a great integrity and insight. I for one miss that he is not here any more than he is. His absence is a great loss.

  • Louisiana Cougar Pineville, LA
    Feb. 12, 2011 5:06 a.m.

    Karl is still a great interview. Some of us are "often wrong but never in doubt."

    I loved Coach Sloan and I don't know squat about coaching NBA players, but I do know that using the best available resources -- old school or new -- is the key to winning.

    Sloan won a bunch of games with relatively limited talent -- although Karl Malone and John Stockton were two of the best to ever play the game.

  • Mitchell_12 Ogden, UT
    Feb. 12, 2011 4:58 a.m.

    Barkley I'm assuming.

  • jazz_man Fajardo, PR
    Feb. 12, 2011 4:21 a.m.

    D-will may not have directly caused Sloan to leave but it was obvious that he wasn't against it either. If he really held Sloan in such high esteem then why wasn't he upset when he was informed of his departure? Or at the very least walk up to management and say that he was against the decision, that he was going to stand beside his Coach 110%. So maybe he never said he wanted Sloan to leave but deep down maybe that's what he really wanted.

  • jazz_man Fajardo, PR
    Feb. 12, 2011 4:19 a.m.

    I grew up watching the old Stockton-Malone duo (sighs....those were the days) and whenever I hear Malone speak I do so with respect and admiration. I agree with the Mailman 110% on this one. I think we can all agree that Coach Sloan would NEVER just step down the way he did. In the 23 years that he coached here two of the utmost principles that he demanded from his players was: always have a strong work ethic and a never give up mentality. So I think we can all agree here that Sloan's sudden resignation in the middle of the season seemed so uncharacteristic for a person who always had a finished what you started mentality. If he was going to resign why didn't he wait until after the end of the season? Malone is right, the Jazz brass definitely know more about the issue than what they are leading on and are claiming that he wasn't pushed out not even in the slightest bit.

  • Wombat1247 Mount Beauty, VIC
    Feb. 12, 2011 3:36 a.m.


  • Anonigma Murray, UT
    Feb. 12, 2011 2:54 a.m.

    I'm a fan of Malone.

    D-Will should study tape on his own. Old school > New school...etc.

  • Not So Fast Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 12, 2011 2:09 a.m.

    GoodGuyGary: I think he means Charles Barkley.

    Love this story. Malone said on ESPN that he would love to be a coach on the Jazz team. The offense in the second half looked terrible. Is Phoenix that good of a defensive team? I don't think so.

    Malone isn't well spoken but he means what he says and I admire him for his passion and work ethic.

  • Cinnamon WestValleyCity, Utah
    Feb. 12, 2011 2:00 a.m.

    Right on Big Man Karl'
    Such a great person!
    Who is Karl taking about is of His
    Former ex coach Utah Jazz(Mr. Jerry Sloan)

  • GoodGuyGary Houston, TX
    Feb. 12, 2011 1:25 a.m.

    "I ain't going to call his name. He knows who he is."

    Who is Malone talking about?