Utah Jazz still frustrated, lose to Suns in Corbin's first game

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  • The Great Houdini Rye, CO
    Feb. 13, 2011 10:05 a.m.

    Todd,I don`t usually agree with your trades but going after Ronnie B is a very good idea,we were playing some of our best team ball before he was traded ,how about gloryhog miles straight up for him?,doubt the Bulls want a colby wannabee

  • Jesse Springville, UT
    Feb. 13, 2011 9:15 a.m.

    ed: I'm not sure what game you watched, but the game I watched, Deron came to play. He nearly had a triple double. He got the team off to a great start but once AK got hurt and CJ tucked his tail, he had no support.

    Also, while Nash did play great, they rarely matched up against each other. Nash didn't start the game guarding him, Grant Hill did. In the 2nd half Deron played more 2 than 1 with all the injuries.

    Find another scapegoat.

  • Kakashi Tokyo, Japan
    Feb. 12, 2011 11:59 p.m.

    Trade D-Will and CJ for a couple of first round picks...who knows...we might get Kyrie Irving and Harrison Barnes...

  • ed Los Olivos, CA
    Feb. 12, 2011 10:56 p.m.

    Why are you all complaining? You dwill fans got a chance to see him dribble between his legs and make a behind the back pass. Although you could watch quite a few other 12-year-olds do that for free.

    But now that mean ol Jer is gone, dwill can free-lance some more....and whine.

    over-rated. I have said it before. The 11th best point guard in the league. Nash made him look silly. Rose made him look slow and pathetic. I would rather have Felton.

  • toddfromsantaana Santa Ana, CA
    Feb. 12, 2011 9:29 p.m.

    scared of what continued 1st round or 2nd eliminations?

    This state is incredible

    CJ is awful. What does anyone see in this ball hog?

    He disappeared like has much of the last month after a good start.

    I do not believe in same ol and we need changes

    However, I have a partial answer that will not lead us to a title but make us better

    Ron Brewer is unsure if he will be back in Chicago. Little playing time or communication with the front office.

    You now make DWIL a happy camper and we could use a slasher maybe it will open up the floor, you could do worse than exploring a minor trade for Brewer

  • Dustin Idaho Falls, ID
    Feb. 12, 2011 7:03 p.m.

    Wow, I don't get it. So many of you have conspiracy theories going on about Sloan. I guess it show just what kind of hold the media has on us. I've heard and read hundreds of comments over the last 3 days about DWill pushing Sloan out, but I cannot believe them. I believe Sloan, DWill, Milsap, Kirelenko, O'Connor, and Miller. I don't believe the rest of the media.

    Face it, we are all freaked out of our minds because we don't know what this team will become. Admit that you are scared, accept it, and stop pointing fingers. The future is what is important, not the past.

  • game on Centerville, UT
    Feb. 12, 2011 6:57 p.m.

    Funny, wasn't the coach after all. Williams, who will ya blame now? I hope the loser keeps losing until the simple fans realize these athletes are nothing by babies and everything they do is for themselves. They are like the state governments, going broke and just keep asking for more. Williams blamed Sloan, now it's someone else's fault. He just can't get the job done but wants to be the self appointed leader.

  • Jesse Springville, UT
    Feb. 12, 2011 6:08 p.m.

    Oh and one more thing.

    6) The coaching staff looks weak. I like Corbin and I hope he succeeds but he needs a better #2. Scotty Layden is not the right guy, he has nothing that his dad had. Hornacek may be all right but they need to fill out that staff if they're going to make this work.

  • Jesse Springville, UT
    Feb. 12, 2011 5:49 p.m.

    A few things really stood out from the game last night:
    1) Sloan was not the cause of the recent funk. He may not have been the solution either, but he is/was not the problem.

    2) AK is easily the 2nd most important player on the team. When he went down, it all fell apart.

    3) Jefferson is the black hole. If he touches the ball during a play, that play is then over. He might score but he doesn't appear like he is ever going to make the team better.

    4) Fesenko is shook. I'm a card carrying member of the Big Fes fan club, but he is not right mentally to help this team out. Maybe Corbin will work on it.

    5) Corbin did a great job. He had a tough hand dealt with all the injuries and turmoil but he was coaching the entire game. He talked with Fes after pulling him, he was coaching up Evans during a free throw. Not something you ever really saw w/ Sloan.

    Alot of problems right now, i'm glad they have some time for Ty to get some practice time in with the team.

  • Sokol Las Vegas, NM
    Feb. 12, 2011 5:07 p.m.

    Can anyone ever even in their wildest dream believe that Gordy 'Opie Milicic' Hayward is our hopee to knock off the Miami's, Spurs, Celtics and Lakers of the world? Look at our team and tell me if we have the desire or the talent to compete for a championship? I think we are all seeing the Smallsap is not the answer and Jefferson just does not have that reliable jump shot of Boozers and his moves are too slow to the hole. But, at least he shows up and tries to compete, every night. The guy has not missed a game all year.

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    Feb. 12, 2011 4:43 p.m.

    CJ was the reason the Jazz were way ahead to start the game. He did his job last night as a starter. Not his fault the other guys can't run the offense and he has to take bad shots to try and get us going. Dwill is no leader.

    CJ will be the best player on this team by next week.

  • Bugoff Houston, TX
    Feb. 12, 2011 4:06 p.m.

    DWill, AJ, Millsap, Bell and Hayward are on salary thru 2012-13. DWill is a player option and Hayward a team option in that year. They are the core of the Jazz for the next 2 years.

    CJ is a team option and Okur is expiring in 2011-12.

    AK is expiring this year and the rest are cheap and expiring this year. The Jazz have bird rights on Fes.

    The Jazz have strong incentive to try to make the core work. If they can't integrate AJ then they are going to have to make a move at C/PF.

    Okur may or may not be back at full strength. AK could get traded or be back at reduced salary.

    The Okur/Millsap combo was good but not great and is not the future of the Jazz.

    The trade deadline and this summer will tell you a lot about the future of the Jazz.

    The coaching is not as important as the combination of players the front office gives the coach.

    Rivers was a dud until he got good players. Gentry was a genius last year less so this year with a poorly designed team.

  • Bugoff Houston, TX
    Feb. 12, 2011 3:39 p.m.

    2. 2. The Jazz can double down and try to add one more decent player and try to make a playoff run to pay for it. Not likely but they should have TEs and could pick up a decent SG/SF for cheap if they have one in mind they want.

    3. They stand pat. Bite the tax and try to fix the problems with the system and run it with the current players.

    Sloan claimed KOC and he discussed a "trade" the night of the CHI game. That seemed to be the night he decided to retire.

    Is a salary dump the straw that broke the camels back?

    Next year is a lock out. This year is lux tax and very iffy. DWill is up the year after that. Some would ask why not dump salary this year and rebuild the next 2?

    Sloan retiring could force the front office to change the plan to dump salary this year?

    Anyway the Jazz are at a crossroads and have to decide what to do with this year.

    I would love to get a decent SG/SF but it is not may money.

    Little time to integrate a new player.

  • Bugoff Houston, TX
    Feb. 12, 2011 3:27 p.m.

    If Sloan had coached last night the results would have been the same.

    The Jazz are at a crossroads with or without Sloan.

    The need to make a fundamental decision.

    They are in the lux tax and might not make the playoffs to help pay for it.

    1. They can dump salary but AK is about all they have for a dump. The Jazz are at 78,415,786. That is 8.2 mill in lux tax.

    They could give Millsap away but that would not be smart. They also could trade DWill or AJ. It only makes sense to trade DWill if he is going to leave anyway. I am not sure how tradeable AJ is at 13-15 mill for 3 years.

    AK may be worth more to the Jazz as an expiring than he is to other teams. If they dump AK they are kissing this season off. Ditto for Millsap, DWill and Jefferson.

    It makes little sense to dump Hayward or CJ as they are cheap for what they do. Bell probably can't be traded. Watson is a keeper and the rest make no money. Fes can't be traded without his permission.

  • Sokol Las Vegas, NM
    Feb. 12, 2011 3:06 p.m.

    This team looks so dispirited, no heart, no toughness, and some cocky whiner to lead us to the promised land. I cannot believe it, I was only consoled by seeing Jeff Hornacek near Corbin. Please get ride of the wizard of Knickdom, Scott Layton..Its time for Sheriff Malone to ride into town and clean up this mess affectionately known
    as Williams and His Band of Merry Charmin.

  • cactusflats American Fork, UT
    Feb. 12, 2011 2:57 p.m.

    Which non NBA city would be most likely to get the Jazz? Vegas? San Diego? Tampa? Boise? SEATTLE?

    I sure hope we can restart this engine and get this fragile team back into contention. Losing Jerry AND Phil on the same day won't be easy to recover from. Much love for the Jazz and their future in SLC.

  • Norm Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 12, 2011 2:46 p.m.

    It wasn't the coach it is the players. No desire, no effort and no toughness. But the main issue no leadership. You can complain and have a sour face and have words with the coach but it has to start with each player to have the desire to win. I see this in no one on the Jazz team. Our current system of buying players and paying far more money than we should shows how this has turned a good sport into a player controlled system. Its not about loyality but how much can they get without a care about the frnachise or the people paying the player incomes that are shameful for what they get. I have no desire to watch the Jazz now and to watch a bunch of losers. It is only getting worse and the fans still pay the money. My family which numbers a few will not donate anymore to the Jazz and the lack of desire players. I would guess in a few year the franchise will be sold, it is sad. Players control the franchise.

  • sputterish Rexburg, ID
    Feb. 12, 2011 2:14 p.m.

    I grown to be a great CJ fan lately. He has matured in every way, always gives 100 %, admits fully to problems he and the team has, and much more often than not plays really well. His only problem is getting flustered when things get off. That's when it would be nice for him to have a great leader (like DWill SHOULD be) to pull him aside and remind him to get back to the simple basics rather than losing his head.

    Big Al played badly, and I'm positive it's because he's really upset. Remember early in the season when he kept raving about how great it was to have a leader like Coach Sloan pushing him and not letting them quit? His eyes just shone when he compared his MN days to being here in Utah with the great Jerry Sloan.

    Where was Matt Harpring last night? Did he sit out because he's upset about Sloan? I kind of think so. Man, I wish we could erase he last few days and just start over. I'll bet 9 1/2 out of 10 in the organization wish so too.

  • Jazz Source Alpine, UT
    Feb. 12, 2011 2:01 p.m.

    This team has talent and ALOT more than they are showing which means they are dramatically underachieving.

    They sure did not look they were energized or motivated by the coaching change.

    That does not bode well for Ty Corbin.

    He will be the next coaching casualty due to the fact Deron won't run the ball up the floor and push the offense.

    If he is injured and can't do it then he ought to sit and get healthy because he is not helping his team win games so what is the point?

    This system has won alot for 20 plus years. It won 55 games a year when Stockton and Malone ran it because they were committed to it and they made sure there team mates were too.

    Deron? No he is too smart to use the system. Clearly he has better ideas and plays and it seems to be working out real well. It made the coach want to leave and we have a pile of losses to show for his efforts.

    Full steam ahead.

  • sputterish Rexburg, ID
    Feb. 12, 2011 1:55 p.m.

    This has been a horrible week. D-Will is young, and basically a good guy, but like most of us would have done at his age and in his place, got a little too full of himself. I knew we were in trouble last spring when he commented in an ESPN interview that he's the best pointguard in the NBA. Can you imagine Jerry Sloan EVER condoning such a foolhardy statement? DWill is good, but he still has a lot o learn, such as how to hang on to the dang baskeball. In all e analyses of the great pointguards, few bring up his turnover ration, but it has been attrocious. Well, guess where hat kind of old-school discipline comes from? From great teachers like Sloan and Stockton and other geezers that this kid is just now only on the verge of learning the hard way know a lot more than he used to think they did.

  • toddfromsantaana Santa Ana, CA
    Feb. 12, 2011 1:35 p.m.

    This all starts with one man-Kevin O Connor

  • Bugoff Houston, TX
    Feb. 12, 2011 1:23 p.m.

    I am not a rabid DWill supporter especially when losing. I think he can be replaced just like every other player and coach IF you get the right replacement.

    Having said that, DWill is playing hurt. His wrist is still bothering him and that is a factor in TOs and shooting.

    In the long run the Jazz have 2 major problems.

    They have most of their salary tied up in DWill, AK, AJ and Okur.

    Most of the time they get their money out of DWill. AK has been playing better but is injury prone. AJ most nights has 16-18 points and 8-9 rebounds but he stops the flow of the flex. Okur may not be game ready this year.

    The Jazz need to spend on a quality bench. If Hayward is ready that helps.

    The Jazz are short handed to the point of not playing intense D most of the time and also not being able to execute the offense due to fatigue and injury.

    A quality bench fixes some of the above. However, the flex takes time to learn and Utah is in the lux tax.

    The Team will adjust. It will take time.

  • The Great Houdini Rye, CO
    Feb. 12, 2011 12:36 p.m.

    May be a good time to rebuild.I`m sure Williams has a lot of trade value,a top young player and a high pick.Keep Millsap,AJ,Evans and Hayward,try to resign AK for cheap,the rest...adios,miles you go first

  • Viva Los Jazz Garland, UT
    Feb. 12, 2011 11:14 a.m.

    I don't like the Jazz losing but on the flip side they may be a lottery team and get a decent player like Jimmer. Haywood has been a solid player and played well last night; he seems comfortable at home. This Jazz team isn't very deap and only dressing 9 players and having AK go out early put pressure on Utah. At the beginning of the season I thought this team could be a championship team if Okur came back 100 percent and people stayed healthy. Now I'm lowering my expectations and am alright with rebuilding.

  • plyxply SLC, UT
    Feb. 12, 2011 11:13 a.m.

    Deron deserves to hear boos at every Jazz home game. Sloan was the one who elevated this team above where their talent level is, not Williams.

    It's going to be a long time before the Jazz get back to where Sloan had them at the beginning of the week, at least there was a chance they'd listen to the coach with Sloan, poor Corbin is going to be another casualty of DWill.

    Very little chance the Jazz will make the playoffs and frankly that's exactly what KOC and Greg Miller deserve for lying to the fans who buy the tickets. I will not attend another Jazz game, glad I got to see Sloan again this year a few times, but there is no joy watching a bunch of arrogant crybabies lose because they refuse to play the game the way it should be played.

  • Old Navy Provo, UT
    Feb. 12, 2011 10:59 a.m.

    Last night, Steve Nash showed/taught Deron how to play team basketball. Let's see if Deron is smart enough to apply what he learned.

  • Jazz-Nation Lehi, UT
    Feb. 12, 2011 10:57 a.m.

    Starting CJ Miles at the 2 guard was what this team needed.

    The starting line up was good, the start was good, we had energy out of the gates, I love Sloan, but I have been saying all season long that we needed Bell coming off the bench and CJ starting the 2.

    Losing AK hurts us, just look at the second half results when AK is not able to go.

    Al Jefferson was horrible, he couldn't do anything right last night. We got nothing out of Elson, Fes, Jefferson, combined 4 points. That cant happen again!

    Deron needs to play better when he is on the court, way too many turn overs and bad passes lately. Deron has got to be better on the pick and rolls and the drive and dish assist.

    I think this team will be much better when everyone is healthy, but I hope CJ stays in the starting line up, and I wish the Jazz could find a shooter to bring in for some depth and chemistry change, maybe Othyus Jeffers on a 10 day, or Nichols on a 10 day until everyone is healthy.

    Keep working hard, go Jazz!

  • dwillfan Provo, UT
    Feb. 12, 2011 10:54 a.m.

    oh, boy, we are in a heap of trouble.

    i have to be honest with y'all, i'm the biggest dwill fan. period. but, i am furious with the way he disrespected sloan, absolutely furious. no one's talking about it, but i'm sure dwill said/did something to push sloan over the edge. malone was straight when he said sloan never quits, so, whatever it was that dwill said/did, it must've been bad.

    i was a little upset when dwill was drafted over cp3, like many jazz fans were. but he grew on us and we all believed in his abilities as an athlete and as a leader. but, lately (well, for some time now), he's been more of a diva than a leader.

    dwill, shut up and just play the darn game. it's time to step up and be the leader your teammates need you to be.

    koc, you have until the 24th do make a move. i suggest you do it. this season is shot. why not bring in some new players and give ty something to build from?

  • Pete88 Aurora, CO
    Feb. 12, 2011 10:40 a.m.

    Thank you Bugoff! Its so sad to see people jump on and off their support for the Jazz after the last few games. You want to dog on Deron? He almost got a triple double last night. C'mon now, he came to play. They had only 9 guys healthy, and one got hurt during the game. Its not Deron's fault that Jefferson was Charmin-soft in the paint, its not his fault that Elson kept leaving defenders wide open, its not his fault that CJ stopped attacking the basket and started jacking up a bunch of bricks. Please please get off his case and stop searching around for a scapegoat to blame in all this. Some act like they have the Chicken Little mindset, "the sky is falling!!!" Get over it and move on and actually support your team. Cleveland fans are better than some fans here, and they're the worst team in the league! Stop whining and let this thing take its course without always trying to pile blame.

    *deep breaths* ok...ok...im done for now

  • JBQ Saint Louis, MO
    Feb. 12, 2011 10:30 a.m.

    The Jazz were very flat for the second half. The game was on ESPN. I watched it on ESPN3. If Corbin can't motivate, then the "era" will be short. Kirilenko was "fired up" as of late and played well. Once he "went down", then the entire team followed Williams into the "Valley of Death". Williams may just be telling Corbin that he "runs things" and will win when he "feels like it". You could tell that he was "pouting". Now, Price and Bell sit on the bench wearing "bling". Can't you see that the "face of evil" has changed things? What planet is Greg Miller living on when he talks about good "karma" in the locker room. Williams now has him in his "hip pocket". Isn't Williams the "player rep" with a strike loomin'?

  • plyxply SLC, UT
    Feb. 12, 2011 10:28 a.m.

    I can't believe it was so obvious in the first game without Sloan but the players now think they can take horrible shots, not play defense, and play one on one basketball without reprecussion.
    The Jazz are now just like all of the other NBA teams who are run by the players.....sad, sad day for the Jazz fans who believe basketball is a team game won by playing tough defense and executing an offensive scheme.
    I like Corbin, but this is not ever going to be his team. Jazz will be lucky to make the playoffs.

  • Bugoff Houston, TX
    Feb. 12, 2011 10:25 a.m.

    All of the comments about the players being bad are really not helpful. The problem is not just the players.

    The Jazz run a system. That system has been successfully attacked by more teams in the last 2 years. It needs to be tweaked. Further, the system needs to be adjusted for AJ who does not fit the current system. That is a major problem.

    The defense is a major problem and that needs adjustment not just in execution but also theory and philosophy. Those things take time and practice.

    Further there is a quality depth problem. That is partly a money issue. But the Jazz only have 3 currently healthy players who have extensive experience with the flex system.

    DWill, Millsap and CJ are the only unhurt players who actually know how to run the system well.

    You CAN'T RUN the SYSTEM with 3 players, especially for a whole game.

    GET OFF OF THE PLAYERS cases. You are not helping.

    The vaunted system is broken at least for the moment. It will take time, innovation and practice to fix the problems.

    They still need more outside shooting for when the system is disrupted.

  • Bugoff Houston, TX
    Feb. 12, 2011 10:06 a.m.

    Everyone needs to calm down a bit.

    The Jazz can't finish games for good fundamental reasons.

    1. They have 9 players. FES and Elson are defensive Bigs. Evans and Hayward are Rookies. AJ still has not fit into the offense. He did get 12 boards last night.

    2. The Pick and Roll defense is a major problem for both Millsap and AJ. The problem is in the approach/philosophy not just the execution. Corbin can change that but it will take practice time.

    3. It only takes ONE position in the flex to be disrupted and the whole system falters. Other teams are figuring out which player(s) are hurt, worn or confused (not executing properly) and making adjustments. At that point the Jazz revert to jump shots (which they are not good at).

    That is why DWill is free lancing and CJ is bricking. If the system falters then it is a pick up game.

    It will take Corbin time (and additional talent) to address the issues of getting the flex to function AND to develop a good plan B for when it does not.

    Plan B is crucial. The flex has been negated for 2 months.

  • bgl Santa Monica, CA
    Feb. 12, 2011 9:56 a.m.

    Even the most die hard Jazz fan had to smile a little, seeing an old school point guard dismantle the Jazz in the second half. I have a feeling we're going to be hearing that word a lot over the next couple of seasons. Old school. I wonder if Dwill thought about that on his way home. "Hmmm just got schooled by a 38 year old who plays the game like it's supposed to be played."

    You know--Kobe Bryant tells us all we should keep our big mouths shut about Deron's part in all this. Coming from Kobe Bryant, that tells you about all you need to know, but I think I'll also add, "Hey Kobe, let's make a deal--don't tell me how I should feel or what I should say about the state of Jazz basketball and I won't tell you how to treat hotel employees, okay-big guy?"

    In case you haven't noticed, I've moved past shock and denial and I'm now in the anger phase of my grieving.

  • Doctor J Manti, UT
    Feb. 12, 2011 9:50 a.m.

    Larry H, Sloan, Phil, Malone....these are real men.

    D'Wil, KOC, cj, Greg.....you tell me?

  • The Great Houdini Rye, CO
    Feb. 12, 2011 9:36 a.m.

    Capt,it`s taken you a while but you finally see the truth,miles is not willing to put in the effort to become an elite player,yes he can do it in spurts,but he`s really not in good condition,especially for a 23 year old and I call it laziness.period

  • Anonymous Infinity American Fork, UT
    Feb. 12, 2011 9:34 a.m.

    Mark my words; Deron Williams will not be in a Jazz uniform when his current contract runs out. He is a superstar in his own mind. Superstar my foot. There are at least 10 point guards in the league as good or better than he is, trust me. Jerry Sloan and Phil Johnson have had enough of these type of prima donas who think they either know more or are refusing to play team basketball. I am personally fed up with these players. We need contracts like they have in the NFL. No guaranteed contracts. You only get paid if you make the team roster. It will be interesting to see how the owners fair in the upcoming NFL and NBA contract disputes this year. The players have entirely too much power in my opinion.

  • Anonymous Infinity American Fork, UT
    Feb. 12, 2011 9:27 a.m.

    It doesn't matter who the Jazz coaches are, they are finished. But in my opinion of the sad sack players they have available, AK and CJ must come off the bench because they have no catalyst type players other than those two to get anything done at all otherwise. They shot themselves out in the first half, and showed their true selves by the 30 points they got in the second half. No punch and no defense. The old man Nash took them to school again. Phoenix is no playoff team and neither are the Jazz; that is clear; playing .460 since December 1. That is not going to get it done. Jerry Sloan saw this and got out before the ship went down. The players deck he has been dealt since the retirement of Stockton and Malone is shoddy. Losing Boozer and Matthews was the final blow. Boerjack and the other broadcasters were having Karl Malone on their telecasts during last night's game and he was trying to tell more truth that they could stand. They cut him off. I will be interested to hear him tell us some more of his thoughts as he promised.

  • Doctor J Manti, UT
    Feb. 12, 2011 9:24 a.m.

    I hope Kevin will trade cj, even if it is to Omaha, or Billings before the deadline!

  • The Great Houdini Rye, CO
    Feb. 12, 2011 9:22 a.m.

    Miles,thats funny,I love you Corbin,lets see how long you love Ty,he`s an old school guy,a chip off the Jerry Sloan block,and he knows all too well the truth about your boy,lazy, worthless, overpaid and hopefully trade bait

  • deno22 Rexburg, ID
    Feb. 12, 2011 9:21 a.m.

    It is the first game 24 hours from a new coaching staff. You can't expect miracles. The practice time will be good for them though.

  • Knowsabunch Ogden, UT
    Feb. 12, 2011 9:17 a.m.

    I have always hated CP3.....until now. D-Will has turned into D-Wont.

  • Doctor J Manti, UT
    Feb. 12, 2011 9:06 a.m.

    Harwood is already a better and more effective basketball player than cj.

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    Feb. 12, 2011 9:01 a.m.

    MIles: You need to take the blinders off. CJ played well the first half and then he stunk it up the 2nd half. I am a big CJ fan but I also like to call it like it is. CJ's play the 2nd half was a joke. I'm glad Corbin pulled him, I can't believe someone with CJ's scoring ability could jack up such horrible shots, airballs, clankers of the backboard. CJ shows he's winded, out of shape and can't put forth the effort needed to play 30 plus minutes. Corbin loves CJ and he will be given every opportunity but CJ needs to suck it up and play harder and get in better shape.
    Loved how Hayward played, loved how Corbin played Evans more, hopefully he get more time.
    I thought one of the biggest problems was the defense from Big Al & Milsap, Lopez,Gortat & Warrick killed the Jazz the second half, no defense from our front line in the second half.
    Fes still getting the short end of the stick, sad.
    It will be interesting to see how Corbin adjust and changes things.

  • The Great Houdini Rye, CO
    Feb. 12, 2011 8:20 a.m.

    New coach,same problems,miles nice first half,then poof,gone, worthless,the bench other than Heyward,a big zero,but losing AK was the dagger,Portland,Memphis and Phoneix right on our heels

  • BDoug Kaysville, UT
    Feb. 12, 2011 8:20 a.m.

    Any leader of any organization needs internal champions who embrace your philosophy and approach to leading. Jerry Sloan has not had this champion since Matt Harpring retired. Deron is a great court leader; Boozer was short-term; nobody takes Andrei seriously; CJ is a kid; Raja is Raja; Milsap is a follower; I commend Jerry Sloan for trying his best to push the team along for the past two years without an internal champion (player) who would do battle with him. Nobody pushed him out - but, as a leader, you can only swim upstream for so long until you realize "you're done" - it won't work! Nobody is at fault in the Jerry Sloan resignation. Players today play for the short-term - Jerry needed an internal champion to play "his way"... he and Phil don't have it in this group of players. Thank you Jerry Sloan for your leadership and example and, most of all, for sticking by your word and principles.

  • Jazz Cop San Francisco, CA
    Feb. 12, 2011 7:40 a.m.

    I wonder if Corbin will let them wear headbands, as far as protective gear goes its underrated. mayhem to the dome has been taken on square by corbins regime and the modern age is here, dwill would look more old school in a headband but i can see malone kicking dwills face in, i don't care what happens with the headbands but i don't have a problem with them, if u want to wear a freaking headband who should tell you no. but i would like to see better effort from dwill who was the first to lay over for the suns, i wouldn't let malone coach his rants would be legendary though.

  • Mitchell_12 Ogden, UT
    Feb. 12, 2011 4:50 a.m.

    3 words... play Evans more. Might as well have the rookies play more these days, seems they are the only ones that want to give the effort out there.

  • chapinitouteco West Jordan, Ut
    Feb. 12, 2011 2:06 a.m.

    Poor Corbin, now he has to deal with this group of underachieving and overpaid babies that KOC has assembled. True Jazz fans always new that Jerry wasn't the problem it was the guys KOC was funneling to him that were the root of issue. Well Kevin, now you and only you are left to blame for this disaster. I wonder how long you keep your job.

  • Bugoff Houston, TX
    Feb. 12, 2011 12:57 a.m.

    Hayward shot the ball and scored well. That is a major step forward IF he will keep doing it. He is going to have to play major minutes with so many SG/SFs out.

    The Jazz committed a lot of fouls and that was the margin of victory.

    This team is pretty injury depleted. It will take Corbin some practice time to START to fix the problems.

    KOC may be wise to get a SG/SF if AK, Bell, and Price are going to be out for a while. A 10 day may not hurt.

    At least that will allow some practice.

  • Terry Sandy, UT
    Feb. 12, 2011 12:56 a.m.

    No AK in the 2nd half hurt and it would have been nice if Jefferson would have showed up on either the offensive OR defensive side of the court tonight. Looks like they forgot to show up in the 2nd half, did we send out the scout/CBA team in the 2nd half by mistake?

  • oh ye confederacy of dunces Flushing, NY
    Feb. 12, 2011 12:35 a.m.

    What a mess. This team is dying on the vine and is a perfect example of the prima donna my way or the highway attitude that permeates today's NBA player.
    Utah teams are always tough...not this one. And especially not without Jerry. The Jazz just lost about 90% of their backbone with Sloan leaving.
    The morale is the worst I have ever seen on any Jazz team. This is going to get a lot worse before it gets better.

  • Anonigma Murray, UT
    Feb. 12, 2011 12:29 a.m.

    OK, they lost their coach 24 hours ago, do you guys REALLY expect a change within that timeframe?

    AK was playing really well today and that's the key reason the Jazz sucked in the 2nd half because he was out.

    I'd like to see Karl Malone be an assistant coach...that would be fun.

    This season is lost, but next season if you have Karl, Stock, and Horny helping with coaching...that'll be a fun season...kind of a stretch for that to happen though...

  • Sneaky Jimmy Oak Town, CA
    Feb. 12, 2011 12:29 a.m.

    The Cavs ended their streak tonight and the Jazz started one. This is a team without any direction. What 's with the between the legs backward passes? Sloan would have jerked these nit-wits fast. I only can hope that Corbin learned from the master and puts a stop to the showboating.

  • The Final Word Alpine, UT
    Feb. 12, 2011 12:03 a.m.

    re: Miles

    Miles played well...for a half. Then he repeatedly jacked up airballs and played no defense and never drove to the basket hardly at all.

    Inconsistent? Yup, its CJ!!!

  • duke5 vancouver, wa
    Feb. 12, 2011 12:01 a.m.

    News Flash! Great second half effort from the Jazz leads them to an exciting win over Su..... Sorry, I must hav been dreaming.

    When is trade deadline?

  • panamadesnews Lindon, UT
    Feb. 11, 2011 11:55 p.m.

    I think a lack of stamina may be at the core of the Jazz' problems. Sloan had preached they needed to hit the gym, but it is evident they have not done it much. They receive (not earn) their pay but don't want to do what is necessary to get better and keep their stamina up (or as Jerry would say, their energy). Let's get rid of the primadonas and get someone who wants to really play. I would rather have players with less talent who over- achieve, than very talented players who don't do what is necessary to reach their potential.

  • Moderate Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 11, 2011 11:51 p.m.

    Jazz will burn through 3 head coaches in the next 5 years.

  • Doug10 Roosevelt, UT
    Feb. 11, 2011 11:49 p.m.

    Deron... Deron...

    Malone says you are not telling the truth and he is just about as big in Utah as you think you are.

    Seems that you might have undone a lot of good things you did up to last week.

  • toddfromsantaana Santa Ana, CA
    Feb. 11, 2011 11:49 p.m.

    Except this team has been playing horribly for 6 weeks. They quit, they gave up. I do not understand this group. Corbin did everything he could. He scolded AJ when Lopez and Gorcat do what they wanted. Fes should have been in there though during the 3rd and those uncontested drives to the rim would not have happened. Gordon played well. CJ you are joking? Miles. He is someone I would love to send packing fast. After his early baskets, he did so well, Ty pulled him from the game going 3 point happy again and being a non factor in the 2nd half.

    DWIL did not help his cause tonight period. He got frustrated and started walking the ball up. The Suns were nothing special, Even though Phoenix did not shoot well from 3s, by the 4th quarter, the assignments were forgotten. Shooters left open,. No pick and roll defense. On and On. The time off could not get here soon enough.

  • Jazz Source Alpine, UT
    Feb. 11, 2011 11:38 p.m.

    New coach.

    Same bad pick and roll defense.
    Same poor execution by Deron/team down the stretch.
    Same bad defensive rebounding.
    Same free-wheeling/breaking off plays.
    Same Deron walking the ball up the floor in 2nd half stagnating the offense.
    Same jacking up bad shots with nobody in rebounding position.

    Same result.

    Sloan ejected because he saw what these players were doing and he saw they were determined to keep doing it.

    Who will all the Sloan-haters have to blame now?

    As those of us with a brain knew all along--the players are the ones on the floor playing the game.

    When the players did what Sloan told them to do and ran the system they won an average 63% of their games for almost 23 years.

    The almost always won on their homecourt. Now Deron wants his independence and look where it has gotten the team.

    Coaching carousel and lottery here we come.

    Poor Corbin is all I have to say.

  • Ak Fan Hamburg, GE
    Feb. 11, 2011 11:32 p.m.

    No AK No Win.

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    Feb. 11, 2011 11:31 p.m.

    Finally CJ gets his minutes and he brings his A game. Corbin I love you!!! Now if the other players would step it up!!

  • kiaoraguy Provo, UT
    Feb. 11, 2011 11:30 p.m.

    That's a bite

  • ImaUteFan West Jordan, UT
    Feb. 11, 2011 11:24 p.m.

    hmmmmmm, guess it wasn't all Jerry Sloan's fault, was it?