Brad Rock: Utah Jazz: For Jerry Sloan, did the fun run out?

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  • Esquire Springville, UT
    Feb. 11, 2011 6:43 a.m.

    Earlier in the season, Sloan said he was excited and having fun. Then it ended. When a player takes control, disaster will result.

  • bigutefan Las Vegas, NV
    Feb. 10, 2011 11:12 p.m.

    I check the papers every day in hopes that the headline is Utah Basketball Coach Resigns or Utah Basketball Coach Is Fired......but not Jerry Sloan. This should be Jim Boylen the worst coach in the history of the state of Utah. Why oh why did my wish not come true, I guess you have to be more specific than "I hope and pray Utah fires it's basketball coach." I should have said JIM BOYLEN. Ugh! Thanks Jerry Sloan for all the memories, you were a class act! Now come on Chris Hill let's keep the changes coming, FIRE BOYLEN!

  • bgl Santa Monica, CA
    Feb. 10, 2011 9:43 p.m.

    Yarrlydarb--I'll bet I'm even more of an old timer than you and you appear to me to be one of those who think that a certain coach just comes in and make a championship. You are a poor excuse for a fan and I've never heard a good fan use terms like "championship coach" in terms of the NBA. My guess is that you once coached a fantasy league team to a big title. Jerry Sloan is and always has been--a winner. I doubt that you or you ilk could ever play for him.

  • Frozen Chosen Savage, MN
    Feb. 10, 2011 9:26 p.m.

    There's only one reason Jerry doesn't have a couple of championship rings and his name is Michael Jordan - greatest basketball player in the history of the planet. NO ONE else could've stopped the 97-98 team.

    Is it Sloan's fault that Jordan was so much tougher mentally than Malone? I don't think so...

  • Observation-ist Ogden, UT
    Feb. 10, 2011 7:05 p.m.

    I sure hope Jerry doesn't waste his time reading some of the basketball-illiterate comments here. Some of you, if you actually knew something about professional basketball, would be embarassed for yourself at the idiocy of your comments.

    It's almost humerous, some of the proported 'reasons' for Jerry's departure. Anyone who knows him at all would realize he didn't resign over one incident, or one player

    He's increasingly grown tired of having to coax good, old-fashioned, basketball out of this new generation of players. I think he stuck around because the core group he worked with were old-school enough to make it fun for him.

    I don't know why he resigned. I listened to his answers today. I have decided that the fun has left the game for him ... particularly when he has to tussle with his team leader (DWill). It's not D-Will's fault, nor is it Jerry's. I just think Jerry has grown weary of the struggle to cajole his team into hard-nose basketball and a struggle with the team 'leader' was just the final, not only, signal it was time.

    Jerry, I'll miss you

  • 7dawg Norman, OK
    Feb. 10, 2011 6:52 p.m.

    Never got the most of his players? Check out the roster for the 2003-04 team. They won 42 games. That roster had NO business winning even 20 games. Seriously....go look at it. /teams /UTA / 2004 . html

    We will miss you Sloan!

  • Kakashi Tokyo, Japan
    Feb. 10, 2011 5:22 p.m.

    successive lottery picks here we come....i wonder...will this be the end of basketball in Utah?...i hope this wont turn into something like the sonics...

  • the truth Holladay, UT
    Feb. 10, 2011 4:58 p.m.

    Slaon NEVER got most out his payers,

    no, he got most out his system,

    and sloan was largely responsible for what playerst hey had on the team,

    and chased many away, and many never came, becuase they were not allowed to star on team,

    only the point and PF were allowed to star, everyone esle is and after thought,

    if you great shoot guard or small forward why would want go to place that would run any plays of offense for you?

    and being a hard_A when someone is out shape, or doesn't work hard enough on their game, does NOT make you great coach.

    Slaon had a great system and the loayalty of larry and o'connor and rest the mangement,

    a loyality that lasted too long when sloan showed could NOT win a championship with his system even with two greatest in most important postions.

    So for all the success you can give props to the system, and sloan's determination to ride his vetrans until they wore out later in season, and is determination to beat everyone over the head with his system, even when you ALWAYS knew they would_never go_anywhere and didn't_work_in_the_playoffs.

  • yarrlydarb Ogden, UT
    Feb. 10, 2011 4:48 p.m.

    @ Old Timer

    I'll bet I'm as old-a-timer as you are, and I'm still going to say that the proof is in the pudding and the stats: Jerry was an also-ran, not a champion and it makes no sense to argue that the players over 23 years were mediocre.

    Neither was Jerry mediocre, but he couldn't pull it out when it mattered most.

    Even Jerry takes the blame upon himself. In that, he is absolutely right.

  • ute alumni Tengoku, UT
    Feb. 10, 2011 4:41 p.m.

    get rid of williams and get the Jimmer! I don't think he is the baby that williams is

  • Old Timer the boonies, mexico
    Feb. 10, 2011 4:31 p.m.

    I would hope that all of the finger pointing and irresponsible talk will wear thin very shortly! We all appreciate dedication and Jerry Sloan leads all in that arena. Now this frnachise will slowly move into another era, but succeed in spite of yesterday's and today's announcements I believe. Just because people have personal conflicts doesn't mean the sun will not rise tommorrow. Let's all be fair with everyone involved because afterall we are not vested partners as fans to a huge degree, but should hope that this change will be positive for everyone. The future will dictate and hopefully soothe some hard feelings. Good luck Jazz!

  • trueblue87 Provo, UT
    Feb. 10, 2011 4:16 p.m.

    Coach Sloan has been an amazing coach. True the Jazz have never won a title but they have been one of the most consistent teams in the NBA. Look what happened to the Bulls when Jordan left. Even more recent look what has happened to the Cavaliers after James left. You can't build a team around one good player. You have to build it around a style of play. I think DWill's lack luster performance last night was lame. Millsap is the man!

  • rs12to32 Nampa, Idaho
    Feb. 10, 2011 3:59 p.m.

    For everyone criticizing Sloan for never winning a championship I hope you are prepared for the Jazz to become just like the Timeberwolves and the Clippers. Sloan made mediocre talent work with a few stars (Malone, Stockton, Hornicek, Williams and a few others).

    Now when Deron Williams leaves after next year (which he will, 100% guranteed) this team will be a perpetual lottery team that gets good players in teh draft only to lose them to the big market teams.

    It broke my heart to watch Williams become a selfish baby this year and it pretty much set the future of the Jazz.

    Thanks Coach Sloan, you will be missed even if people don't realize it now.

  • Johnny Triumph American Fork, UT
    Feb. 10, 2011 3:30 p.m.

    I'm sure DWill killed the fun. He's been a poor sport this season, obviously not playing up to par. It's a shame that the players rule the game and Sloan had obviously had enough. What a terrible thing to keep DWill and lose Sloan.

  • Andrew J. Marksen Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 10, 2011 3:12 p.m.

    The fun didn't run out the loyalty for Sloan did. We always wondered what type of an owner Greg Miller would be. Now we know, classless.

    GOOD LUCK JERRY!!!! Utah will miss you.

  • VOTB Pocatello, ID
    Feb. 10, 2011 3:00 p.m.

    Brad...I know you remember when we were kids and had that basketball game with all the pro teams rosters (both ABA and NBA) and Jerry Sloan was on the Bull's roster. I remember even then his reputation for being a "tough as nails" guy. I think his departure truly will signal the complete passing of an era in pro hoops that we'll never regain, and I believe the game will become even worse of a basketball spectacle than it has become today.

  • Zencible Bluffdale, UT
    Feb. 10, 2011 2:48 p.m.

    Hey, Greg did manage the Toyota of Murray store for some years. That is plenty of experience.

  • Shawnm750 Lehi, UT
    Feb. 10, 2011 2:47 p.m.

    Sloan's an amazing coach. He's taken this franchise further than any other coach probably could have in the past 20+ years. However, I think that sometimes changing things up for the sake of 'changing things up' is necessary for success.

    In some ways, I think it would have been better for him to finish out the season. At the same time however, I think he's realized that he's not the right person to be behind the wheel anymore, and there's no sense in drawing it out.

    Thanks Coach Sloan for all you've done. Good luck to you in all your future endeavors! You'll always have fans in Utah.

  • Zencible Bluffdale, UT
    Feb. 10, 2011 2:45 p.m.

    Thank you Jerry and goo luck. I'm not sure you lasted this long with Greg Miller sitting at the end of your bench.

  • yarrlydarb Ogden, UT
    Feb. 10, 2011 2:45 p.m.

    Yeah, Rock, you're right about "Sloan's style has produced the third-most wins in NBA history and the most wins ever with one team," but it NEVER produced a "winner" only an "also-ran."

    Not a team in the league would have retained Jerry Sloan for 23 seasons; it's history.

    The list of "great NBA coaches" who have been fired after 1, 2, 3, and 5 poor seasons is as long as your leg.

    But the Millers and the O'Connors have retained J.S. year after year of "also-ran" seasons.

    The fact is in the statistics, Jerry has NEVER been able to get his players to win the truly big ones; and that comes back to the boss (who's the coach?).

    As nice a guy as Jerry is, and as good as he is in teaching defense fundamentals, Sloan is not a championship coach.

    Champions find a way to win; when it came to the bottom line, Jerry found a way to lose.

    You can blame the players all you want, but at the end of the day, the Jazz organization from Larry and Greg through Kevin and Jerry didn't have it.

  • BDZO Salt Lake City, Utah
    Feb. 10, 2011 2:10 p.m.

    Good Job Brad!

  • Motappin Sandy, UT
    Feb. 10, 2011 2:07 p.m.

    Change is good. But thank you Jerry, for all the wins, the integrity, and the fire you've given Utah over the past 23 years. We won't forget it.

  • Gifford VanBuren Holladay, UT
    Feb. 10, 2011 1:57 p.m.

    I think the era ended when Larry passed on and left Greg (and all of his CEO experience running a graphics design company) in charge.