Full-day kindergarten bill to be heard again by House committee

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  • halfdaykindergarten Lakeville, MA
    Feb. 12, 2011 3:49 p.m.

    The decision needs to remain the parents'. It is not the place of the government to decide how infants and toddlers should be raised. Try reading works sited at our org, or visit the CATO institute... publications by Darcy Olsen, for starters. Please help preserve parents' freedoms and rights! Thank you!

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Feb. 11, 2011 4:27 p.m.

    We already have poverty and criminal activity from weak education. Here's some of my ieas for simpifying education:

    1. Eliminate everything associated with standardized testing. As a thirty year retired teacher I have asked hundreds of teachers, parents, administrators, and some state officials about this. No one acknowledges improvement in learning. The main reason is making students accountable. (?).

    2. For the special need students, have three leveled classes ranging from mild to severe. Districts can contract or share an expert to handle the placement.

    3. School becomes voluntary at a determined age. Too much time, money, and effort spent on students not wanting to be there and learning little to nothing. Learning students are hindered. My opinion, most young people will come.

    4. With standardized testing eliminated, the state and feds won't be setting teaching objectives. Teachers will measure student progress. Districts will depend on competing textbook companies to create curriculum. Students will be responsible for learning rather than receiving extra funding for special made curriculum to pass a state test.

    Best thing for student education is learning character and honesty. Like domino, things will fall in place.

  • familyguy Logan, UT
    Feb. 11, 2011 9:38 a.m.

    @Worf- my assertion is that it is in the best interest of everyone to ensure that every child has a quality education. I don't care if it's done privately or through public schools. A lack of education creates poverty and criminal activity. I'm interested in reading your solution to simplify and reduce the expense of education.

  • pikap1868 Layton, UT
    Feb. 10, 2011 1:12 p.m.

    I'm sure there's something in this about increasing the number of teachers, right?

  • Johnny Triumph American Fork, UT
    Feb. 10, 2011 12:15 p.m.

    We can't even pay for the schools we've got, how in the world are we going to pay for full day kgarten?

  • lket Bluffdale, UT
    Feb. 10, 2011 11:52 a.m.

    I love the dual inccome slam. so we should have our wives at home or we should stay at home and have a low income and maybe be on food stamps or other aid like church aid. this is a very narrow minded way of thinking. The PTA. is already just for stay at home moms anyway. they meet at times like 3:00 P.M. or worse in the morning. some of us want to make enough to pay for our kids colledge which by the time my 6 year old gets there could be 60,000 a year.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Feb. 10, 2011 11:20 a.m.

    In a free country--the state will take and micro manage our children. They will be taught! If Thomas Edison was a child today, he'd qualify for benefits and services. Great!

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Feb. 10, 2011 10:52 a.m.

    We don't live in an ideal world. So turn our children over to the state? Look at the succeess of Headstart and the billions of dollars already spent for education. Billions on standardized testing,--and for what? It did'nt work, with only twenty five percent of graduating seniors ready to handle college. How many did'nt graduate? How long do we stand behind a horse and get kicked, before we learn to stand or do somewhere else?

    There are some success stories, but the rest is a disaster. Education does not need to be expensive and can be simpified.

  • cdmom Provo, UT
    Feb. 10, 2011 10:35 a.m.

    HB 111 does not keep the status quo. It changes the program to this:

    At risk children, those who score the lowest on entrance tests, would have the option of going to the morning session of kindergarten and then going to the afternoon session of kindergarten. Thus getting the same lessons twice in one day.

    I foresee a group of children who are bored in the afternoon session and will end up falling further behind, if this bill passes. Please let the local districts and teachers decide what is best for their at-risk kindergarten students.

  • KathyInCache North Logan, UT
    Feb. 10, 2011 10:19 a.m.

    Why must there be a one size fits all approach? Why not allow local schools and school boards the freedom to decide how to best meet the needs of their students? Sara Krebs, the literacy specialist in the above story, seems to have a firmer grasp on how to meet the needs of the kids than some of the politicians involved.

  • familyguy Logan, UT
    Feb. 10, 2011 9:12 a.m.

    In an ideal world children would be better served at home at this age. The problem is we don't live in an ideal world. At my sons school they offer one section of extended day kindergarten. It is very much needed. There are at least 15-20 children every year that arrive at the school that know NOTHING. They don't know any letters, any sounds, colors, or even how to write their name.

    Should they have learned this at home, YES! But they aren't so what should be done? If we (the public) fail to teach them to read well, then we are creating tomorrows criminals, and perpetual participant in well fare. So it is vital that these kids be given an opportunity to succeed. Poor parenting has dealt them a poor hand.

  • xscribe Colorado Springs, CO
    Feb. 10, 2011 9:07 a.m.

    @procuradorfiscal: Do you have data for your statement that no significant learning occurs beyond an hour or two of school in kids this young? I'd like to read it. Both of my kids went to all-day kindergarten, and I can guarantee you it was not daycare. The teacher taught the kids from the first bell to the last, and most kids were well above grade level in reading. This is after she started with some kids who didn't even know their ABCs or counting to 10 yet. Show me the data!

  • procuradorfiscal Tooele, UT
    Feb. 10, 2011 8:02 a.m.

    This poorly concealed subsidy of dual-income parents' lifestyle choices SHOULD go away.

    No significant learning occurs beyond an hour or two of school in kids this young, anyway. After that, it's just state-funded day care.

    Dual-income Utah County and East Bench liberals should have to pay for their own nannies, rather than handing the bill over to the state.

  • Yorgus Manila, UT
    Feb. 10, 2011 1:19 a.m.

    I was lucky enough to sit next to battle-axe Ruzicka today. My face is still shiny from the reflected glory.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Feb. 9, 2011 11:36 p.m.

    Yes! Let's send these kids away from home and into schools. What a great idea. Let's have another bill for tax payers. No wonder our country is plastered with deficits.