Trade rumors swirl after game
so its leaking that dwill and sloan didnt get along .. i met dwill one time and
he acts like he is royalty .. (sorry dude all you can do is put a ball in a
hole)... well i always thought we should have taken cris paul .. he is looking
like he was the class guy .. not williams..the jazz just made a huge mistake(if
this was in any way them choosing dwill over sloan or not backing sloan)
williams is not blake griffn or k. durant,there are literally on only 5 or 6
players who i you would choose over sloan .. and thats only bc sloan would
retire in a few years anyway regardless .. williams isnt one of them i would
have traded him in a heartbeat and gotten sloan the right type of players that
he could coach..point guard is the easiest position in the nba to replace .. and
i cant stop fantasizing about all the players we could have aquired in a trade
about the bobcats...they are just pointing out that the jazz could pursue
both...since AK's contract can cover both of the players...they were just
evaluating trade prospects...i was just saying..we could get both on AK's
contract alone...meaning..he is well over paid and would be a good trade chip
for teams that want to shed off salary...like the bobcats...who is willing to
trade either one...or maybe both...
@jcrotty25I think the Bobcats want to release some bad
contracts...in Gerald Wallace and/or Stephen Jackson...and AK's expiring
contract...covers both...if they pulled that trade off...it would mean a lot for
our team...but...im sure it will never happen...
lets explode the team...trade deron + CJ for 5 first round draft picks + Favors
to the nets...trade everyone...rebuild...we dont have a respectable coach
anymore anyway...why not let KOC leave too....
@ The Great Houdini | 12:37 p.m. Feb. 10, 2011Rye, CO Absolutely!!! Absolutely!!!Jerry's been around at least ten years
too long. He's a nice guy, and he has all the fundamentals down,
that's true.He's a great assistant coach because he can teach
fundamentals of defense, but he never could run an offense. Talk
about Karl never delivering in the big games (which is true), Jerry has proven
with 23 years of experience; he's not a winner when it comes to the playoffs.Jerry Sloan is the best "also-ran" coach the league ever had,
but he never has been a finisher.Thank goodness, he's decided to
step down.John Stockton is right; the Jazz will stay on top and
eventually, with someone who knows how to play offense, they'll win a
Koc is the one who should be stepping down .. thanks alot .. worst gm in the
nba. the same fans who thought we didnt need wesley mathews are the ones who
blame jerry sloan and once again you will be proved wrong .. koc has put
together the worst team in the history of the jazz .. no scrappers/hustlers, no
speed, no finishers . no shotblockers , no athlets, no winners besides milsapp
and diwill . great job koc thanks . now we will be celler dwellers for decades.
how can sloan win with the sad excuses for draft picks you have made for the
last 10 years
Sloan and Johnson gone,you all happy now?
Why is there no deeper reporting on the meeting? Something is not right with
the team...There are nohigh energy guys left to save us, other than
Evans.Fesenko, if he stays here, will be in Sloans dog house for good.
This team is not fun to watch. There is not much hope other than a first
round exit. Williams is moody and not a leader...I thoughtBell would help
us like Fisher. Al tries hard..Smallsap did well, but that was
against...Charmin Boozer. I hope they shake up the team or fire Sloan and bring
in Stockton or Hornicek to run the show.
Sloan and Johnson are resigning.
Nice use of the ninth pick in the NBA draft last year. Hayward can't even come
off the bench and provide the team a lift. 1 point. Fantastic. Trade needs to
happen TODAY for some people off the bench who can score.
Sloan leave? Please do, please do us all a favor
Why are so many fans so anxious to blame the players. It's been that way for
almost 23 years. "It can't be Sloan," they say, "it's got to be
the players."Open your eyes, Jazz fans!What's the
most consistent thing about the Utah Jazz? It's Jerry Sloan.How many
times has Jerry's teams come close just to end up also-rans?I'll
tell ya: 23 times!No, not 23 times; there were 5 or 6 times when
they didn't even make the playoffs, I think. Close to that anyway.They used to say that Karl and Stock were not real champions because they
didn't have a ring to wear.Well, that is true; they had no ring.Neither, my friends, does Jerry Sloan; and he NEVER WILL!Mark my words; with the players he has had, 0-23 = loser!
UTE and Todd: Did you watch the game last night? CJ played 17 minutes and took
5 shots. Hit two of them. The problem wasn't CJ, it was Jerry not playing him
enough minutes.Oh and by the way, AK 5 - 14Oh and by the way,
Dwill 5 - 13Chicago shot 39.8% and won the game because the Jazz
can't make a free throw. ( 10 - 20)Chicago didn't win this game,
Jerry gave it to them along with his star free throw shooters. More CJ and it's
a blow out for the Jazz.AK is gone. CJ will not be traded.
Unfortunately, the trade will not make the team any better. The biggest problem
with this team is Memo and his 10 million that isn't even on the court. that 10
million could have bought two excellent role players off the bench and the Jazz
would be in the top 4 again. Other than Ak, who has any value in a
trade right now? Maybe Memo? But I don't think so with 2 years on contract.
CJ's contract is less than 4 million. No value there in trade.
cj is horrible. trade him, okur, ak, and price. throw in milsap to make the
trade vauable for the other team. get some talent in here.By the
way deron is nowhere near the best point guard in the NBA. He has gotten worked
twice this week.
I actually see a ray of hope here.Our front line,Shorty,AJ and AK have been
playing very well together the last few game.Raja has played better.Williams I
think is banged up,but he`ll be good after the all star break,actually I hope he
stays home.Memo I`m not counting on,but if we could pick up a long range
threat,be it a 2/3,we`ll be good.Where did the Wallace/Jackson rumor come from?
that`s insane,why would they trade either of those 2,I`m thinking someone just
made it up
Yes, I think the Jazz needed to make some changes to the team after the end of
last season but I'm still not sure getting rid of Boozer AND Korver was a good
Face Facts. Salt Lake is a small market city. Its a once in a generation to keep
s single elite player for an extended period of time in any sport in any city.
Utah had two for a long time and got spoiled. It just doesn't happen very often.
Frankly, keeping a coach for an extended period is very rare. Very rare.Booing a player who leaves SLC is absurd. He did what was best for him
just like all of us try to do for our families and our religion. It is just part
of the equation.
if the bobcats are willing to do that trade ak for wallace and jackson and we
dont do it .. then we have no intention of ever winning eeeever .. wow that
would bolster our team in ways that would make every jazz fan excited again and
we would start blowing teams out nightly and we could compete with anybody. and
im not kidding .. i dont know why the bobcats would do that .. they would be
horible if they did that .. also i wish we woiuld have picked up that point
guard shaun livingson when he was available and the bobcats took a chance on him
for only 3.5 million per year, i mean why not here you have a 6'9" point g
who can play sg as well .. what a dynamic player .. he scored 15 and had over 10
dimes against boston the other night wow what a good move by bobcats . we never
make good pickups like that for tall dynamic players.. make a move koc we cant
go anywhere with this team i know that for a fact
Desnews apparently won't post my comments about Sloan.Nobody likes
censorship more than the media.Nothing will change with this team.
23 more years!
I just can't understand why a percentage of you fans that comment and follow
this team and know basketball don't get it! It's the system fans. Good coaching
plays to the strengths of his roster, not force a system on players that don't,
can't, or won't play that way. Now I do admit that we have several players that
don't fit well here, but who do you think was the selector of these guys? It
wasn't O'Connor as most of you keep saying, the man behind the make up of this
team is one person and one person only-Sloan! I think we need several roster
changes, but mostly need new management,and that means GM and complete coaching
staff. Then when thats done let those put in charge tweak this roster! This year
is lost, how about changing for the future Greg? If you don't want that sell to
someone who will and does care!
The Jazz just are not very good. There is no leadership. Deron appears to have
"already packed" to leave. He is lackluster and a non factor of late.
AK played well. He had ten rebounds and a number of blocks. When the game was
on the line, he came prepared. No one else did. I believe that Sloan is a good
coach. The team is lackluster. Don't look behind. The Jazz have 23 losses
with teams now behind having 24, 25 26 with Phoenix now "on deck" and
prepared for the "sword to the heart".
The jazz players dont need to point fingers at each other and fans dont need to
point fingers either. This is a game that the Jazz would like to
have back.11 home court loses. This is just not a great team this
year, we dont have the depth. I am very realistic, I know that this
team can not win a seven game series in the playoffs against the Western elite
teams, maybe its time to make some changes. I get tired of hearing excuses!Is it time to add a shooter?
Something is bothering Derron (other than his wrist). Are the Jazz looking to
what a predictable league these days...lakers,spurs and celtics heat....end of
story...dwill will walk after next year no question about
it....either this team makes some trades or they will be 20-62 type team in a
couple of years..
@Doug10 | 7:36 a.m. Feb. 10, 2011Roosevelt, UTAnd who put the
brakes on "the-run-and-gun?" Nobody else by Jerry Sloan.
The Jazz is a train wreck. I love Dwill, but he will need to go elsewhere to
chase a title. I wish him all the best as the Jazz stagnate in mediocrity.
Something is wrong with D-will. Probably his wrist. He lacks the shooting
confidence he had a few weeks ago. The Jazz looked like they did not want to win
the game last night at the end of the game. Painful to watch.
How many, many, many players have the Jazz had that were later traded away and
not only done very, very, very well, but excelled?No, it's not the
quality of players the Jazz recruits or trades for.The biggest
problem is not anything else but the most permanent fixture in the organization:
Mr. Jerry Sloan.
where was cj ? not enough minutes for cj.Maybe we need to start a collection so
we can pay cj more,hopefully he`d play harder and smarter.Hope there is a trade
in the works and miles is the tradee
all i know is sap tore it up but when he came back in with 4:00 to go he didenT
touch the ball. williams tried to get it to al every time either a turnover or
he fumbeled it or missed. still should have won i like the chances of winning
down 1 and williams with the ball. just not his night. or kirlinko's night or
cj's night or the benche's night. al played good just not at the end.
AK shoots 80% at the line; same as DwillAK shoots 46% from the field; same
as DwillAK won the Sacramento game in the last four minutes with his
defense and his offense.Last night he had 10 boards and 4 blocks. In
the last two minutes, he was everywhere.You can all rag about his
contract forever but his play deserves no criticism. Does he get hurt? Sure.
He is the only one on the team willing to go inside. He still plays harder than
anyone on the team except, perhaps, for Milsap.
i have read something on yahoo...we could actually trade AK for Gerald Wallace
and Stephen Jackson....but i dont think KOC would do it
Hopefully one of the "nothing on the table and no announcements" will
be AK finding a new home.That will free up some much needed cash for
some much needed help on the team.Other players need to step up at
the end of the game otherwise it is easy for teams to guard and pick Deron.
Trouble is now he has nobody who wants the ball or the responsibility for losing
if they miss the shot. When Boozer was here he was hyped right up to the last
second of play, and he wanted theball and would take the shot.Millsap and Jefferson look like Clydesdales who have just run 5 miles by the
4th quarter of most games, and their body language says they are too tired to do
anything. That is part of the reason Ronnie Price looks good even if he can't
shoot, he brings energy that is lacking by the rest of the team.The
Jazz used to be entertainig to watch, run and gun, pick and roll basketball but
now it is nearly painful to watch them.
So now we find our scapegoat in Dwill, eh? Predictable Utah fans--take your
all-star, who has done more than anyone to help bring this team along, and then
throw him under the bus when you don't get exactly what you want and when you
want it. This is such a good example of why other cities journalists and
announcers, while admitting that Jazz fans can be the "loudest,"
rarely mention anything about them being the "smartest."
What a totally lackluster effort by the Jazz. How long are we going to continue
to walk the ball up the floor. Why dont we try something new..like hustleing.
Total half court effort. No free throw shooting. AK throw them up there with
this new found flick of the wrist stuff, where that came from I dont know. Its
time to shake things up. How loud would Larry be screaming right now? And at
everyone! Earn your salaries guys. The fans dont owe you anything. Show up to
work like all the rest of us have to do. THEN WORK!
todd, i agree with nost things you say, but i do believe it's time for some
trades to take, but is whats available better than what we have!
Jazz have NO chance this year against Dallas, San Antonio, or the Lakers in the
playoffs. Time to position for the future and not waste time on a unsalvageable
year. Desperately needing some roster changes!D-Will needs to step
up. His attitude is contagious and he appears to be moping around feeling sorry
for himself. I'm not a Boozer fan; but, he is a very optimistic guy on the
floor...the low energy is a direct reflection of Williams! His
"threats" of leaving shows lack of commitment and leadership. If he's
not going to be here mentally and emotionally, I don't know that we can expect
that from the others.
Money doesn't buy happiness. Shooting is nothing to do money. If that in case
Shaq Howard must be best FT shooters . Look at % only certain player shoots
better. 2nite both team was off. Doug you are routing wrong team, go lake
Michigan find better team. Daydreamer
Was at the game. Milsap and Jefferson out played Boozer. Rose out played
everyone else. Fesenko was looking good then Sloan pulled him quick for no
reason that I could see. Fesenko could have stopped some of the Rose
This game confirmed what I already thought, DRose is the best point guard in the
league. Dwill is still hurting but those 3 turnovers in the last
minute were unacceptable. Horrible.I'll never understand why people
who are paid millions to play basketball can't shoot better percentages from the
free throw line.
Good to see Boozer and Brewer again.I would like to state the
obvious, Boozer was a great player for the Jazz.I would happily
trade AK and Okur for 3 Boozers, that is where the salary works out at. That
would give the Jazz about 50 to 60 points each night, not the hit and miss they
have been working with lately.This game was winnable, I guess Deron
has lots of respect for Boozer and did not want to take away the win. that is
probably why he gave up 3 times as many points as he scored.Tomorrow
the fans will not have to hear Deron in the paper say he doesn't know what is
wrong with the team. When he shaves he will be able to identify who the problem
Miles worthless minutes, comes in jacks up 3s. Kirilenko 5-14. Rose outplayed
DWIL, then again Rose does that to most.Maybe the Jazz can package
Miles and Elson for someone with length. Someone will take a chance on CJ but
frankly I am CJ'd out and tired of waiting for our answer. We need rebounding
and length and tough defense
The Jazz played heart and it was a good game until the last minute and the
turnovers. However, all the missed free throws and t/os are self destructible
issues. The Jazz letting Kyle Korver open on a 3 should never have happened to
give Chicago the winning points as it turned out.CJ and AK got too
much time and Fes not enough. Fes had changed the game as intimidated couple
shots and no paint attempts.Evans athleticism, length and leaping
ability could have been utilized. The Jazz went thru dry stretches in the 2nd
and 3rd quarter and he never came in. This could have helped as Bulls had 2nd
chance points with too many boards.Y
Deron better not blame this loss on "the team". He lost this game for
the Jazz.I was thinking to myself, "what do the players need to
do to start winning the games they should win? I decided that need to get back
to to the basics - making layups and three throws, making accurate passes,
etc.How can these players justify and even feel good about
COLLECTING the millions of $'s when they constantly play so poorly. Notice I
did not say EARNING - they are not earning their millions. This is very
frustrating!Mr Miller, Mr O'Conner, and Mr Sloan better do something
soon, or the Jazz will lose many of their fans, and therefore $'s to fund this
It is obvious DWill played hurt and not at 100%Boozer Who? Millsap
and AJ played pretty well as did AK. However, poor FT shooting hurt. The Jazz still have about 28-29 million tied up in AK and Okur. That pays for
a lot of quality. The Jazz have the same problems they have always
had. They lack enough quality depth in the bench and they lack sufficient
outside shooting. Further the defense is poor. Those problems doom
the Sloan system to mediocrity. Boozer got blocked a number of times
so the interior D was not that bad in some aspects. The team seemed
to play well at times but the D was not sufficient. DWill struggled in the last
2 minutes. Korver and Brewer knew the plays the Jazz would run at the end. Sloan
could have called something different.
When is it time to change things around? Maybe Greg Miller already has a plan.
This team is not very good. Sloan does well with average players. Utah doesn't
know how to bring in better talent.It seems there are very few
coaches who know how to win a championship. Sloan has had some great years. He
is an amazing coach with what he has been given. The league is changing. We
need a different formula for success. Maybe its never going to happen.Utah has had a good streak of making the playoffs, but always going to the
prom and never with the head cheerleader gets cloy. Miller needs to
seriously consider changes and take some chances.
We're blaming our only All-Star for losing this game? We have no depth, when
DWill has an off night someone has to step up. Where was the bench?
Where was CJ Miles? The bench had 5 total points. Sorry but not even Miami
can win games with that kind of bench depth.Lets face it we're not a
good team, without the 13 lucky come-from-behind wins we're easily a lottery
team... we still just might be.
The Jazz looked better than the Bulls minus the free throws and turn overs. The
bench really needs to contribute a lot more then they are.
Too D willThanks for giving up. Three straight TO'S on THREE
straight possessions. I dont want too hear that he had a rough night, that might
be so but that shows me that he was playing with his head in the clouds until
there was three minutes left when he finally woke up it was too late. Thanks
Deron .BTW he will pull a Lebron and bounce
Awesome, Just simply awesome.. way to go Bulls my new 2nd favorite team :)
Kurt Thomas' flagrant on AK was a Jazz turnover because it sent AK to the
This one's on Deron. Three crucial turnovers in the final minute when we
trailed by only a single basket. And allowing Rose to drop 29 on him while
scoring just 11 himself.Also, foul shooting -- especially by
Jefferson and Kirilenko -- contributed.Wonder what the result would
have been if Noah had played.
Deron to loose a game. Jazz didn't have any kind of offensive flow. Down stretch
did however defensive plays and the end offense wins game. Deron single
handedly lost a game.