Utah Jazz rally late to dethrone Kings

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  • Kakashi Tokyo, Japan
    Feb. 9, 2011 10:09 a.m.

    Really now?...Fesenko?...he doesnt have potential...he is just a big clog in the paint that is all...dont kid yourselves...the dude isnt athletic...and is light years away from being somewhat like Gortat...heck...id rather have darko milicic than fes...

  • jcrotty25 Meridian, ID
    Feb. 8, 2011 8:16 p.m.

    @ captin L first Fez cant move his feet and is so uncordinated they call a foul on him with the slightest contact just bc he looks like a fouler. havent you ever played with that guy at the ymca that you are afraid of bc you just know he will accedentally be so uncordinated he misses that ball and breaks your nose.. or if you go up for a layup you will get killed and land on your butt.. bc he is just so out of control the game just looks like a sloppy mess when he's out there..the refs will never let him get away with any contact bc he just looks like he is fouling everyone.. but he is just so huge he looks like he has potential when he goes up hard and dunks it,or when he blocks a shot, but i just dont see him being able to get much better then he is now. and i think he hurts us in so many other ways that even though his size can be a problem to other teams i just dont think he is the answer for this team ..only as backup

  • Anonigma Murray, UT
    Feb. 8, 2011 7:50 p.m.

    Fes is a big project and I think Jerry sees that so Jerry's just playing mind tricks with Fes to shape him into a good big man.

    I mean, look how Jerry didn't let Fes play unless he made his free throws....against the Kings, he actually made some.

    I wouldn't play Fess either. Other teams should just foul him every time he gets a shot...his foul shots were basically turn-overs.

    Until he gets that into the 60% range and defends the ball not the man, he won't play big minutes

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    Feb. 8, 2011 6:03 p.m.

    jcrotty25: It's not Fes's offense we need, everyone will admit his offense is very much lacking but it is Fes's defense and just his presence in the paint that the Jazz need. Our interior defense is terrible. Fes's plus / minus is one of the best, if not the best on the team and that means when he is in the game our team outscores the other team, that is what we want isn't it. It's not Fes's ability to score, it's his impact on the game, which is usually positive. I've said several times, Sloan needs to play Fes like he did Eaton, don't even worry about how much offense he can give, just use him to control the paint, intimidate and rebound. Any offense is a plus and just icing in the cake.
    There aren't alot of players like Fes out there to pick from, Elson may be 7' but he doesn't have the impact Fes has, he is too skinny and doesn't bang and make people pay when they come into the paint.

  • jcrotty25 Meridian, ID
    Feb. 8, 2011 4:57 p.m.

    @ AK i have nothing against Fez i accually think he is a decent project and i think every team should have one big true center.. but thats just not what wins in the nba anymore.. who said anything about a jump shooting team i sure didnt.. but more and more it is other positions in the post and not the center doing all the scoring... i mean other then shaq what true center has been the intrigal piece of a championship team...dwight probably will win one at some point as the top player on his team as a true center but thats it.. detroit = center ben wallace 6'7" and rasheed wallace who was a shooter...celtics... couldnt win anything without garnett who was a shooting center/pf... lakers..gasol is a P forward who plays center when bynum is hurt..bynum second best true big in the nba.. but he was the fourth best player on his team.. his main benifit to the lakers was his shotblocking and rebounding.. it had nothing to do with his interior scoring.. it was his rebounding and shotblocking.. and those centers can be picked up off the street ie (cris anderson denver)

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    Feb. 8, 2011 2:50 p.m.

    If Fes were so good, why would Jerry not play him? You all say CJ is bad and Jerry plays him!!

  • BillM75 Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 8, 2011 2:12 p.m.

    Fes gets minutes, does what he does, uses his size, Jazz win (albeit barely against a bad team).

    Wonders never cease.

  • B Russ Ephraim, UT
    Feb. 8, 2011 1:42 p.m.

    Here's to a very Fes-tive win tomorrow night! Hope Fes gets a chance to dunk on the Boozer a couple of times! Hope big Al is ready slam a few down on him too!

  • Ak Fan Hamburg, GE
    Feb. 8, 2011 1:42 p.m.

    Wow jcrotty
    what did Fes to you. Maybe except you 2 guys everybody sees potential in Fes. Black Griffin is PF playing not so good team as go to guy no wonder he fills stat sheets every night. Centers don't need 3 point shots, more reliable dunk bank shots and hooks these are arsenal of bigs.
    Jazz wins because of high % shots layups. Jump shooting team never won championship am I right?

  • jcrotty25 Meridian, ID
    Feb. 8, 2011 12:53 p.m.

    Its so sad when ppl are forced to talk about a player who is borderline in the nba .. fez... thats how weak our team is... how is JFFR the only one who can see that..maybe he will someday be the best he can be and all you can say you are right who seem to be in love with him .. but is that really somnthing to get excited about when the best he can be is a slow tall player who avg... 9 points and 5.5 reb and 1 block per game......in a league that is more and more about bigs who are speed and quickness and athleticism- example blake griffen who is only 6'7 then the slow 7 footer.. come on ppl you are living in the past.. its not the 90's anymore.. wake up! besides dwight howard how many big strong ancor's in the middle are there.. most 7 ft tall players shoot outside and are 225 dripping wet..

  • JazzMan Centerville, UT
    Feb. 8, 2011 12:53 p.m.

    CJ's play has been PATHITIC as of late. I can understand being in a slump and not making a lot of your shots, but I will NEVER understand the lack of effort or intensity from a 23yr old being paid millions of dollars. And play defense for cryin' out load!

  • jcrotty25 Meridian, ID
    Feb. 8, 2011 12:42 p.m.

    trade for arron brooks .. looks like houston has its point g .. in kyle lowery.. brooks avreged 20 points per game last year... so he gives us several things we need ... top flight speed and quickness to get anywhere on the floor and pick apart the defense(currently we have nobody who can do that) he can hit the 3 pointer decently ... and last but not least the dude can fill it up...also would add some much needes speed/decision making on the fast break..there is talk houstan will move him b4 deadline... work it koc

  • Sokol Las Vegas, NM
    Feb. 8, 2011 12:01 p.m.

    A player like Fesenko points to Sloan's inability to
    encourage a much needed big guy to guard the paint..
    I think Fesenko would be good with either of our forwards Big Al and Smallsap.

  • Jazz-Nation Lehi, UT
    Feb. 8, 2011 12:00 p.m.

    Why is CJ horrible? CJ can fill it up quick and his contract is only 4 million, which is a steal! CJ has carried the bench all season long, yes he has taken some bad shots, but who cares, who hasn't? At least he shoots the ball and is athletic enough to get to the rim. I swear some Utah jazz fans would complain if Michael Jordan or Larry Bird was on this team and shooting to many jump shots. I dont see anyone bagging on Price? I admit Miles is a streak shooter, but he has a ton of talent and adds so much value to this team. We need a real shooting guard coming off the bench, Price is playing out of position trying to play the 2.

  • evanston Evanston, WY
    Feb. 8, 2011 11:49 a.m.

    CJ is horrible. He needs to go. now.

  • Idahoan Burley, ID
    Feb. 8, 2011 11:17 a.m.

    Trade Memo to Houston for Martin. They need a big man and we need a SG who can hit the three. The down side to Martin is his defense. Memo has not been a great defender and his contract it to big for a #2 center on any team.

    The perfect trade would be to get Matthews back but as it was last summer, the $$ don't fit the Jazz.

  • Jazz-Nation Lehi, UT
    Feb. 8, 2011 11:01 a.m.

    Remember last year in the Playoffs when Memo got hurt and Fes started for the Jazz, everyone thought that the Nuggets would roll right through the Jazz, Fesenko alters shots and changes the game! I think the Jazz need to start Fesenko and have either Big Al or Milsap come off the bench. We will need to get a shooting guard, we need perimeter play, we dont need to spend a fotune, we can find a shooting guard that is a bargain out there, heck, even Othyus Jeffers would be an upgrade over Price playing out of position trying to come off the bench and play the two. We need a shooting guard! Keep working hard, looking forward to the Cows Wed. night! Lets go Jazz!

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    Feb. 8, 2011 11:00 a.m.

    Glad to see Fes get some PT and the more he gets the better he will get. Fes's difficulties (apparent clumsiness) are mostly a result of his hurrying & rushing his moves and shots, when he learns to slow down and not rush things he will look and play better. For that to happen though he needs more playing time so he can get comfortable and not be in a hurry. Sloan needs to play Fes more, it only helps the team and will help Fes develop.
    Houdini: Good point about CJ, I have said many times that CJ needs to have a pregame workout like Ray Allen and that would help him become consistent. I believe your right, CJ probably plays video games etc instead of getting into the gym.
    For the Jazz to beat the Bulls, they will have to come out and play like they did against Denver.
    AK makes a big difference, good to see him back.

  • Dr Truth SLC, ut
    Feb. 8, 2011 10:53 a.m.

    Deron & Jerry are right, this is the worst executing Jazz team in years on both ends. Even when the Jazz have numbers on the fast break they some how find a way to mess it up.

    Every team in the league is running Al off a pick and roll. He guards it about as good as Shaq does. I will say that Al did get out on that last pick and roll when the Kings were trying to tie the game at the end, so obviously he can cover it when motivated. Can Al do that consistently in games is the question.

    Lastly any win on the road in the NBA is a good win even in Cleveland, bring on Boozer and the Bulls!

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    Feb. 8, 2011 10:43 a.m.

    JBQ....That's how Jerry coaches. Two man game. Three others stand in the corner and watch. Could you imagine if Jerry's offense was actually built for all five players how good the Jazz would be?

    The funny thing is I think Jerry's defense is builit for two players too. At least it seems that way the way this team defends!!

  • mick.mcgirr Arlington, VA
    Feb. 8, 2011 10:37 a.m.

    @JBQ... are you kidding me???? The flex offense is one of the few offensive systems where every player actually plays an integral role each time down the floor. Watch the cross-picks, v-cuts, baseline runs, etc. Even if each player isn't getting looks, they are still responsible for the end result. And by the way, AK is shooting 45%, which is lower than both Big Al and D-Will.

  • JBQ Saint Louis, MO
    Feb. 8, 2011 10:27 a.m.

    You can't "teach height". Either Fez has potential or he doesn't. You have to find out. AK was the difference. How many shots did he take compared to the rest of the team? He takes about one fourth of what Williams and Jefferson, who play ping-pong with each other on the court. He also has a ridiculously high percentage. In Utah, basketball is not a team game. Williams and Boozer did the same thing. This is a "false positive" victory. This only hypes up hope and then the team crashes because they can't play together.

  • mick.mcgirr Arlington, VA
    Feb. 8, 2011 9:53 a.m.

    How about Fess' big assist to close the quarter? Harpring had it right on... Fess flipped it over Cousins to Bell for the buzzer beater. Kind of a goofy Globetrotters type play, but it showed more awareness than I thought Fess had. Still, he's got a LONG ways to go.

  • Anonymous Infinity American Fork, UT
    Feb. 8, 2011 9:49 a.m.

    How can you dethrone a hapless Queens team that has no business even being in the league? The Jazz are sqeeking out victories against opposition like the Kings (er Queens). The win over the Newguts in Denver means nothing when a team comes home and gets punked in their own crib, the way they were by the Sonics (er lightning, thunder) or whatever. What a name for a team. The commissioner obviously has put out an edict to lay off Kevin Durrant. Don't body up on him or touch him. The Jazz zone defense doesn't work against good teams, plain and simple. The Jazz are not playing well enough to be a playoff team, let alone a credible team. They are one of the teams, just like the old ABA Utah Stars to be disbanded and folded into the remaining league teams. But the mercenary owners will probably not do what they should do. The NFL and the MLB leagues should do the same thing....shrink the number of teams. There are not enough players in the world to support the high calibre play fans should demand, to pay the exorbitant prices for tickets, sponsors commodities, etc.

  • duke5 vancouver, wa
    Feb. 8, 2011 9:19 a.m.

    It's great to see a win but let's not get to excited. With just a 12-36 record the Kings certainly are not one of the better teams in the league.

  • B Russ Ephraim, UT
    Feb. 8, 2011 9:08 a.m.

    The second unit is a better functioning unit when Fesenko gets 15 to 20 minutes a game. It takes more than 4 or 5 minutes to get in a rythum. 11 pts., 7 rebounds, 1 steal, and 0 turnovers in 18 minutes of play. Then we won. That works for me. Keep working on those free throws big fella.

  • ouisc Farmington, UT
    Feb. 8, 2011 8:51 a.m.

    It's easy to be critical of little things Fes doesn't do right now, but the truth is, he is our best hope right now at interior defense. We need him. We need to continue to play him.

    An observation I had last night--Millsap does better playing off Fesenko compared to playing off AJ. I'd like to see more pairing of AJ/AK and Fes/Millsap at the 4/5. I'd love to get some minutes for Evans at SF with AJ/AK.

  • MR Draper, UT
    Feb. 8, 2011 8:45 a.m.

    No trade rumors at all? Does not bode well.

  • The Great Houdini Rye, CO
    Feb. 8, 2011 8:11 a.m.

    A win,but just doesn`t feel good.Fes some good moments,hope he can get some steady minutes.Shorty Millsap,just another nice solid game.Miles do you really believe CJ is gonna put down the video games and go practice? I really wish he would

  • Hugh G. Hater SLC, UT
    Feb. 8, 2011 7:26 a.m.

    Not too bad for a team with no real sg or center.

  • Bugoff Houston, TX
    Feb. 8, 2011 1:14 a.m.

    CJ has always been streaky. He has come thru in the past and carried the team some nights. He has also stunk it up on occasion. His good nights make him worth his 3 Mill.

    I have given up on expecting CJ to step it up and consistently hit good shots,rebound and play D. Some nights he plays well some he does not. He is okay as a bench player.

    He will find his stroke pretty soon. Bell and AK have also had funks so I guess CJ can have one.

  • Bugoff Houston, TX
    Feb. 8, 2011 1:07 a.m.

    Fes has plenty of liabilities but he contributed to this win. Elson is an okay player, better than I though he would be.

    However, Fes would get better with more minutes. The Jazz could also use a decent shooting SG. However, I am pretty sure the front office signed Elson when they thought Fes was going to HOU. That changed and then Fes came back after Elson was signed.

    I am glad to see a win and a DEN loss. If the Jazz do not get it together and quick, they will drop to the 9th or 10th seed in another couple of weeks.

    The Jazz have not "stubbed their toe".

    The Sloan system is disrupted on a regular basis and Sloan/KOC did not put enough outside shooting into this team to save it when the system fails and/or the paint is packed.

    The Jazz are pretty bad right now. They are going to have to fix the outside shooting problems, play consistent defense and rebound or they are NOT making the playoffs.

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    Feb. 8, 2011 12:41 a.m.

    CJ stinks right now. However he was the only Jazz player to make a 3 tonight. So it's not like anyone on the team is lighting it up from outside.

    Bell and AK both played well so CJ was not needed tonight. But he had better wake up soon or the season will be over. There is no excuse for him to be shooting so bad. Get in the gym and take 500 shots a day.

  • TonganNinja Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 8, 2011 12:16 a.m.

    Cj its time. I hate seeing this inconsistant CJ

  • toddfromsantaana Santa Ana, CA
    Feb. 7, 2011 11:44 p.m.

    Fes congrats, it took a break for Elson to get hurt otherwise he sits as usual. Why do we not talk about things he does well. For one, the Kings have to earn the points jump shooting and 3 point plays do not result on drives to the lanes. Feseneko has some quickness for spin moves, he is not that clumsy. He needs better hands and work on his foul shooting. But people need to stress what fes can do.

    Bell it is good to see the resurgence, DWIL, Paul and AJ nice games. The way AJ started I thought he would get 30 or 40 but did not get back into the same groove after being subbed.

    For once it was great to see the Jazz coaches finally focus on rotation and 3 point close out.

    Sacramento made 6 3s in the first half, but zero in the 2nd half. That helps coming back and winning this game by 3 points.

    CJ? No comment. Another garbage night

  • Ak Fan Hamburg, GE
    Feb. 7, 2011 11:30 p.m.

    Common Hawai. Lately Kings beat Lakers in LA! shot down NO, played evenly 3.5 quarters with Celtics. Cousen looks for real. If Jefferson could pass that will be difference.
    Good win Go Ak

  • panamadesnews Lindon, UT
    Feb. 7, 2011 11:24 p.m.

    JFFR: I guess hall of fame coaches also get preferential treatment in the NBA. It is what it is! Go Jazz! They need to get the #3 or #4 seed to do anything in the WC playoffs. Otherwise, if they escape the 1st round, they will more than likely be playing either the Spurs or Lakers in the 2nd round.

  • HawaiianAggie St.George, Utah
    Feb. 7, 2011 11:19 p.m.

    It's a sorry state of affairs when Utah can barely beat Sacramento.

  • Iowa Jazz Fan 2 Cedar Rapids, IA
    Feb. 7, 2011 11:03 p.m.

    If Fes ever gets serious about his career, he has a solid future ahead of him. Glad Elson was out tonight so Fes could have an impact. Except at the foul line.

  • ed Los Olivos, CA
    Feb. 7, 2011 10:55 p.m.

    As Chuck and Todd have said for two years, when Fes gets playing time, good things happen.

  • JFFR Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 7, 2011 10:54 p.m.

    I know everyone is going to go nuts on Fesenko's box score, but can I just say I'm still not impressed with him.

    -Cousins had his way with him. (Jefferson had taken him out of the game until Fes came back in)
    -He doesn't set good screens
    -Where was he on the defensive glass?
    -He's clumsy with the ball

    Just listen to Harpring, he continually points out the spots that Fesenko doesn't get to on the floor.

    This game was UGLY. I don't like blaming things on the refs but they were incredibly bias. Is years passed Sloan would have picked up a technical foul and probably been tossed.

  • panamadesnews Lindon, UT
    Feb. 7, 2011 10:51 p.m.

    Fesenko was the difference maker in this game. Best game I think he has ever played as a Utah Jazz man.