BYU football: Recruiting focused on defense

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  • Wally West SLC, UT
    Feb. 4, 2011 11:01 a.m.

    re: Summertime | 10:48 a.m. Jan. 31, 2011

    "if BYU is ever to reach BCS game status they must address a little more diversity in their school I mean how can Boise State sell Idaho and we cannot sell Provo?"

    Having been to both, its easy. Boise is more cosmpolitan, has a wide range of activities for all types of people, no mandate that one size has to fit all, etc...

  • grumpolman Springville, UT
    Feb. 1, 2011 3:15 p.m.

    The recruit of Sumsion out of Sprigville is a big time addition he's not only an athletic tight end who can catch at 6'8" he's tough for QB's to throw over he could play both ways like he did in High School our biggest threat is losing him to Dave Rose though he's amazing at hoops also.

  • Duckhunter American Fork, UT
    Jan. 31, 2011 10:55 p.m.

    Great point crowntown. How many more times are you gonna tell us about 2008 and 1944?

  • Carnak Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 31, 2011 10:37 p.m.

    WOW panamadesnews, that is quite a prediction seeing as Utah plays a PAC 12 schedule and BYU plays half of the WAC conference weaklings. Way to go out on a limb.

  • crowntown1 Corona, CA
    Jan. 31, 2011 10:28 p.m.

    History is something you cling to when the scoreboard lets you down.

  • panamadesnews Lindon, UT
    Jan. 31, 2011 10:04 p.m.

    Crowntown1: And just what is your point?

  • panamadesnews Lindon, UT
    Jan. 31, 2011 10:02 p.m.

    Chris B: I would say that 7-6 is a respectable rebuilding year, and it was almost 8-5. We'll take it. Let's see how BYU and Utah compare in records this time next year. I am betting that BYU's record will exceed Utah's. In fact, I am sure of it. Mark it down. If it doesn't happen, I will be happy to eat crow. But I think I will be having fillet minon instead.

  • Desert Coug Las Vegas, NV
    Jan. 31, 2011 8:37 p.m.


    Apparently the U had nothing left in them after they used all their "skill" to block that kick to win by so little. BYU was unranked, the U was Ranked? Or they would have beat the Lowly WAC team in the bowl. Right?

    Your defense is still not rested.

    Go Cougars!

  • Desert Coug Las Vegas, NV
    Jan. 31, 2011 8:25 p.m.

    @ Timp,

    "I'm a BYU fan - but they'll always have a ceiling until they consistently can bring in some better talent in the defensive backfield."

    I have always felt similarly. The years that the Cougars have gone over 10 wins, they have had strong DB's. Oh, that was the previous few years before this one....

    My view of the usual way the Y gets it's DB's is converted QB's and JC Transfers. I think they will be fine next year again.

    Go Cougars

  • Kankles Miami, Florida
    Jan. 31, 2011 8:03 p.m.

    To CougarfaninTX

    ...right after Utah beat your Cougars.

  • gb13 Herriman, Utah
    Jan. 31, 2011 7:12 p.m.

    Haters: Hating takes time and effort and takes a toll on a person. Haters have (obviously) been abused. Hatred come from lack of self-esteem and originates from jealousy. ChrisB you were most likely once a BYU fan prior to your hatred of them. Whoever has abused or offended you, please accept our apologies! It is not worth risking your health in the continuation of your pathetic efforts. Good luck in the future, uman.

  • Clear123 Spanish Fork, Utah
    Jan. 31, 2011 7:10 p.m.

    Love the hater-Ute comments. I always need a little humor in my day.

    Anyway, they can talk as much as they want (we can see how well that did them this past year). BYU should do just fine.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Jan. 31, 2011 6:25 p.m.

    @ Carnak
    Be careful with your comments about the WAC. Your Utes got whipped by a WAC team in the LV Bowl this year.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    Jan. 31, 2011 6:10 p.m.

    "After BYU's first year of Independence. Look forward to another top 25 recruiting class in 2012."

    So it sounds like the zoobs are using a mulligan in 2011. Ok Jeffe, OK.

    Remember you only get on mulligan. Broko better have a trick up his sleeve.

    BY May after Utah has cherry picked all the best talent (again) bronco will be postng "help wanted" posters at the local Wards.

  • Carnak Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 31, 2011 5:53 p.m.

    @IJ 4:59

    So you think playing a PAC 12 schedule will be a "harder row to hoe" than playing half of a WAC schedule? Brilliant.

  • IJ Hyrum, Ut
    Jan. 31, 2011 4:59 p.m.

    I'm no expert - and its certain most of you aren't either - but I think BYU will be just fine. Not so sure about the U. I believe the PAC will be a little "harder row to hoe" than independance. The bottom half of each schedule will be the test. I think that BYU usually gets the people they need. Adam Hines will be a good addition when he gets up to speed.

  • --JEFFE-- Cedar City, UT
    Jan. 31, 2011 4:52 p.m.

    The 2011 recruiting class added much needed depth to the Defensive Line and Linbacking corps. But the real weakness on the Cougar defense is the secondary. Bronco needs to do a better job at pulling in quality corners and safeties. It will make a huge difference.
    Hopefully they can add a few DB commitments to the 2012 class.

    Adam Hine could be a real force at the DB position. Has a very strong frame, great speed, and holds the Utah State record in the high jump. I know he was recruited as a RB, but he could really make a difference in the defensive secondary.

  • nottyou Riverton, UT
    Jan. 31, 2011 4:48 p.m.

    We choose Sunday School boys over Neanderthals...any day of the week.

  • warnason Provo, UT
    Jan. 31, 2011 4:30 p.m.

    I didn't know that Joe Sampson decided not to come to BYU, I remember reading an article by Jay Drew that said he had already signed a LOI in December. That could be a quality recruit that gets away.

  • --JEFFE-- Cedar City, UT
    Jan. 31, 2011 3:50 p.m.

    Bronco has already started working on the 2012 Recruiting class.

    The top receiver out of Arizona for 2012, Josh Weeks, has already signed with BYU. As a Junior, Weeks holds six Arizona State receiving records, And is a 2-time Arizona First team All-Stater. Stands 6'4 200 Lbs and has a 4.0 GPA. Check out his highlight video on youtube.

    After BYU's first year of Independence. Look forward to another top 25 recruiting class in 2012.

  • Rise and Shout Ogden, UT
    Jan. 31, 2011 3:48 p.m.

    Chris B/H Hog
    You are one classy guy/girl; the kind of classy that might run an adult magazine and adult video store in the classy part of town.

    Keep your comments coming....your comments are amusing if not creative, articulate informative or accurate.

    can't wait for 2011 BYU football to get here and I am especially thrilled that I won't have to watch any Mtn again.

  • --JEFFE-- Cedar City, UT
    Jan. 31, 2011 3:37 p.m.

    BYU's 2011 Recruiting class is the smallest it has been in almost ten years. So naturally it appears weak. But after an awesome 2010 class with a load of RM's returning, Bronco could afford to take it easy with 2011.

    Those Utes that like to spout their superiority in recruiting might find this interesting.

    2010 Recruiting Classes:

    BYU: #22 recruiting class- One 5 star, four 4 star, seventeen 3 star
    Utah: #50 recruiting class- five 4 star, fourteen 3 star

    #22 and #50. Thats quite a gap wouldn't you say? 28 teams between BYU and Utah.

    BYU: #40 recruiting class- three 4 star, fifteen 3 star
    Utah- #32 recruiting class- four 4 star, sixteen 3 star

    #32 and #40. Not too big of a gap. 8 teams between the two.

    Here are some more credited college football networks and their opinions on the matter.

    National Football Post-
    BYU #30 recruiting class
    Utah Unranked.

    Bleacher Report-
    BYU #9 In Ranking 2010's Top College Football Recruiting Classes on Offense
    Utah: Not mentioned.

    Comcast Sports-
    BYU #22
    Utah Unranked

    After the first year of Independence, Look for a killer 2012 recruiting class in Provo.

  • Mildred in Fillmore Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 31, 2011 2:08 p.m.

    We don't really need a defense since we have Jake and he will make sure we score every time we have the ball. I just hope those WAC boys don't get hurt trying to stop us.

  • Jens Bloomquist Forks, WA
    Jan. 31, 2011 1:47 p.m.

    Ever since BYU declared independence, I've been loving it. I no longer have to care AT ALL about what goes on at the PEW. And it seems like the PEW fans only care about what goes on at BYU. No comments on the PEW board. Weird.

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    Jan. 31, 2011 12:22 p.m.

    The sound of crickets is echoing on the Utah article about their possible signees. The obsessed, jaelous, haters can't wait to read the BYU articles and spew their garbage to the south. This article is about more and more high quality young men opting to be included in a classy, successful and NATIONALLY RELEVANT program and the classless comments from the trolls who would tear them down. Your opinions don't matter. Your team is headed in the opposite direction as the one you obsess about day and night.

  • Bigmommas-house Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 31, 2011 12:21 p.m.

    the first year of independence is going to be the most important in terms of Recruiting and being able to schedule the big time programs in future games

  • Pete88 Aurora, CO
    Jan. 31, 2011 12:13 p.m.

    to me personally, i dont think the rank or how many players a school has in their recruiting class defines a team. Just because BYU doesnt have a top whatever class doesnt mean they're bad, the same goes for teams that have a better class...doesnt mean they're the best, either. i think a lot is made out of nothing, especially judging players before they even step out on the field.

  • plyxply SLC, UT
    Jan. 31, 2011 11:44 a.m.

    Heder wasn't even the best LB in Region 4 last year, that was Wolford from Alta.

  • Cougar Claws Lindon, UT
    Jan. 31, 2011 11:29 a.m.

    BYU's defensive back depth and talent is better now than it has been in at least a decade. So even though it isn't where it needs to be it is still heading in the right direction.

    Hmm. . . almost 30 comments on BYU's recruiting article and only 3 on Utah's recruiting article

    Utah fans or BYU haters? I think the number of comments speak for themselves.

  • Timp South Jordan, UT
    Jan. 31, 2011 11:20 a.m.

    I'm a BYU fan - but they'll always have a ceiling until they consistently can bring in some better talent in the defensive backfield. To have a class w/ out any DB's (besides a Snow transfer) seems pretty weak, no matter how hard the Des News tries to spin things.

  • BYU Deek Spanish Fork, UT
    Jan. 31, 2011 11:03 a.m.

    @ Ragnar,
    Jan opted not to sign as a free agent, knowing he was too slow for the NFL. Not too many all pro D-ends run 40's slower than 4.8, just saying. He has instead opted to become an MMA fighter, and you can find him on Youtube, just put in his name and his fights will come up.

  • Summertime Provo, UT
    Jan. 31, 2011 10:48 a.m.

    Tayo Fabuluje is a big loss no matter what anyone says, but if a kid feels lost in a cultural challenged school ie, BYU or Utah they will not reach their potential. TCU is also a great place to go, if BYU is ever to reach BCS game status they must address a little more diversity in their school I mean how can Boise State sell Idaho and we cannot sell Provo? Please don't talk honor code and such because that makes us look even more ignorant...

  • So.cougar St. George, UT
    Jan. 31, 2011 10:44 a.m.

    LOL. No wonder so many yewts are posting on the Y article. If they post on the Yewt's article no one will read it. At this posting there are 23 posts for the Y and a spectacular 3 on the U. I thought that with the split that all the u-trolls didn't care what the cougs were doing anymore. It looks like the interest is in the Y still and the U just gets whats left. Go cougars!

  • Cougar Claws Lindon, UT
    Jan. 31, 2011 10:43 a.m.

    For all that lack of speed on defense they've BYU has sure made that athletic Utah offense look silly the past 2 seasons.

  • utahcountyute Cedar Hills, UT
    Jan. 31, 2011 10:20 a.m.


    "You're obviously not familiar with football period if you think blockers aren't vitally important."

    They are "vitally important", just a dime a dozen.

    @Guitar guy

    Yeah, I'm sure not a soul within the byu football or basketball programs has ever stoked up in "high" school. Langi was a big name kid is all. Get over yourself.

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Jan. 31, 2011 9:54 a.m.

    Did anyone see the article about Utah FB on espn dot com today? The two writers predicted a 6-6 and 7-5 mark next year for the Utes. Both of them predicted the Utes will lose to BYU.

    I think their assessment is fairly accurate.

  • GuitarGuy Layton, UT
    Jan. 31, 2011 9:49 a.m.

    utahcountyute - sorry, but most BYU fans aren't shedding many tears over Langi. Unlike the U, there are three players in front of him on the depth chart. Also, he probably wouldn't have made it through Spring ball without getting suspended for blazing. But he can get away with that up north, and he knows it.

    Also, I'm not sure a Ute fan should be scoffing about how easy it is to recruit tight ends. Who was the last Ute tight end who was even servicable, at best?

    Yeah, Fabuluje transferred. So what? A lot of young men do dream of playing for BYU. Because BYU has tradition, spirit, and honor. I can understand why that is such a foreign concept to a Ute fan.

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    Jan. 31, 2011 9:43 a.m.

    Spin, spin, spin for a remarkable weak BYU recruiting class.

  • Ragnar Danneskjold Bountiful, UT
    Jan. 31, 2011 9:41 a.m.

    I can't believe they signed so many D-lineman. For multiple reasons. One, that seems like too many. Second, I think that D-lineman are not utilized by BYU. In my opinion, BYU cost Jan Jorgensen millions of dollars. He is an NFL talent that was put into a 3-4 when he was leading the conference the previous year in sacks. He would never say it because he is loyal to BYU, but I think they cost him an NFL career. I thought this might cost them some recruits, but it looks like they are still doing well. I agree with "DC" who said that next year is critical. If they do well (which I think they will), they will continue to be a good team. If they do poorly, things could get pretty ugly for a while.

    PS, before you respond by telling me how many NFL teams run a 3-4, I am just saying Jan was more suited to a 4-3 and SHOULD have gone pro.

  • Pete88 Aurora, CO
    Jan. 31, 2011 9:37 a.m.

    Seriously, why do so many Ute fans care what BYU does? Some articles have nothing to do with the Utes, yet you can always find them running around on here bashing others based on their puffed image of themselves. (They should have a segment of "C'mon Man!" for them.) If you hate BYU so much, then dont worry so much about what they do, especially guys they recruit or whos coming back from missions. Doing that just means you're looking behind your shoulder/feel threatened

  • cowboy99 South Jordan, UT
    Jan. 31, 2011 9:37 a.m.


    Which big slow guy are you talking about Ryker Matthews (All-American)?

    You're obviously not familiar with the Bingham High football if you think Minoa is slow.

    You're obviously not familiar with football period if you think blockers aren't vitally important.

    I guess you're just going to learn these things the hard way.

    Go Cougars!

  • utahcountyute Cedar Hills, UT
    Jan. 31, 2011 9:17 a.m.

    @ i-am-i

    Yeah it's really hard to find a slow, big guy who can block. lol

    Whatever makes you feel better about losing one of the best back recruits to come of Utah in a while.

    Also...."defensive lineman Tayo Fabuluje, opted to transfer to TCU" WHAT?!!

    I thought all young men just dreamed of playing in Provo?

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Jan. 31, 2011 9:14 a.m.

    Coaches can talk in generalities about the recruiting class, they just can't comment on any specific player. The media, on the other hand, can talk about specific players all they want. Notice which comments are in quotes and which ones are not.

    Anyone who believes BYU will have another 7-6 season while Heaps is in Provo is only revealing their ignorance(i.e. crowntown1, chris b).

    With Hoffman, Jacobsen, and Apo he will shread opposing defenses. Throw in the trio of backs, who will all make their mark again this year, and defenses will not know what hit them.

  • Duckhunter American Fork, UT
    Jan. 31, 2011 9:08 a.m.


    I wouldn't worry about that to much as those tight ends are more than likely being signed as athletes as much as tight ends. Much like Vic So'oto was orignally a tight end but was switched to dline and became an all conference player and probably NFL draft pick most of those guys will probably wind up playing d-line, o-line, linebacker, etc. BYU does a great job recruiting that type of athlete i.e. big, tall, good speed, etc. and then finding places for them to play.

  • Duckhunter American Fork, UT
    Jan. 31, 2011 8:40 a.m.


    But of course BYU has a National Championship. utah on the otherhand......LOL

  • cynic Appleton, WI
    Jan. 31, 2011 8:38 a.m.

    Um, is a coach allowed to comment on recruits before they officially sign letters of intent? Just wondering.

  • aggieblue Saint George, UT
    Jan. 31, 2011 8:36 a.m.

    Chris B.
    I don't know if you are Mr. Or Ms B. I am an Aggie, true blue but root for all of Utah schools, U,SUU,Weber, Dixie, all except when they play my Aggies. I wonder what your problem is with the Y players having honor, integrity, and morals. I am sure these traits are present in most of the players in all of the other schools, but you seem to imply because they are honorable etc., all are less of players. I am sure all of the schools excluding the Y appreciate your calling their football players, thugs, criminals, dishonest. It seems you believe these are characteristics that makes them better. I try to follow your comments on the U but you seem to be here all of the time. Oh well, let the players play, you will find they have respect for each other, more than what is on these blogs.

  • crowntown1 Corona, CA
    Jan. 31, 2011 8:25 a.m.

    4 & 5 Stars = National Championships
    2&3 Stars= New Mexico Bowl/Las Vegas Bowl

  • crowntown1 Corona, CA
    Jan. 31, 2011 8:23 a.m.

    4 & 5 Stars = National Championships
    2&3 Stars= New Mexico Bowl/Las Vegas Bowl

  • Ade Kaysville, UT
    Jan. 31, 2011 8:12 a.m.

    With only 15 scholarships available, BYU signed two more tight ends. WOW! How many tight ends does one need? The Y must have about 10 tight ends on the roster. That is great recruiting. Go COUGS.

  • Chris B. Midvale, UT
    Jan. 31, 2011 7:55 a.m.


    Unfortunately for tds good defenses require speed, something tds will never have on defense.

    Sunday school boys can be nice and polite, but unfortunately nice and polite don't go a long ways on the football field.

    Speed and sunday school boys are two things that just don't go together. So long as the honor code is in place and tds thinks football is the 6th most important thing life you can expect average coaches, average players, and a very average program.

    7-6, get used to it

  • Tommy2Shoes Lehi, UT
    Jan. 31, 2011 7:50 a.m.

    ETB might just have something there. Welcome to the Y boys. Enjoy playing before 60,000+ in Provo.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Jan. 31, 2011 7:40 a.m.

    Were just building up for another national champs. So much talent coming in.

  • Executive Lee West Jordan, Utah
    Jan. 31, 2011 7:16 a.m.

    With all due respect to Mr. Langi, but with the lack of discipline off the feild that Langi has shown over the past year, I would think BYU knew he would not be able to cut it there in Provo with the honor code and may have written him off.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    Jan. 31, 2011 7:00 a.m.

    "Two highly touted linebackers have also committed in Austin Heder and Adam Pulsipher...."

    Higly touted by who? Broco?

    These two star gems only had two offers combined- from such elite programs as Buffalo and New Mexico State.

    Bonus question: What is the Buffalo football team name? Don't feel bad I had to look it up as well...


  • DC Alexandria, VA
    Jan. 31, 2011 6:47 a.m.

    If BYU can make independence work, they'll have great recruiting years in the future. If they stumble next year, they will suffer.

  • I-am-I South Jordan, UT
    Jan. 31, 2011 3:34 a.m.

    No need to fret too much about not picking up Harvey Langi. Anyone familiar with the system at Bingham would know that the real stud of every Bingham team is actually the fullback/linebacker ie. Minoa Pikula who BYU did pick up.