Utah Jazz: Dismal shooting dooms team against Warriors

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  • jcrotty25 Meridian, ID
    Jan. 31, 2011 8:11 p.m.

    Koc needs to answer to the fans for his embarrasing job as gm .. he needs to be held accountable if he doesnt get fired.. and make some bold moves and start showing that he has some guts by making trades and accually start forming a real team bc this obveously isnt working we have no great 3 point shooters no shot blockers no pure scorers..no good young players who could become great .. we have no scrappers besides milsap .. we have no player who can get anywhere on the court at anytime and all teams need that ... we dont have open court finishers .. i would accually say that we are the least athletic team in the nba i mean seriously are you kidding me.. we have passed on so many great players in the draft that its getting embarassing .. i can draft 10 times better then KOC and i would bet my life on it..

  • IDJazz12 Pocatello, ID
    Jan. 31, 2011 6:00 p.m.

    Before the season when the Jazz did not resign Mathews and Korver and though replacing them with Bell and Heyward as well as replacing Okur with Elson and thought this team was going to be better is clueless. Funny to hear Mathews say that if the Jazz would have made an offer at around tweny Mill for the same amount of time before Portland he would have taken it because he wanted to be in Utah. But the Jazz brass have let the market(Trail Blazer)set ridiculous amounts. Maybe its time we let the market set what Jazz Brass are worth. I say not a dime!!!

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    Jan. 31, 2011 4:03 p.m.

    I'd love to see Horny become the next Jazz coach, he has the background of being with Sloan, but he has an offensive mind. I think he would embrace the shooting of the 3 as a weapon in his offense. I think that is needed in todays NBA game.
    KOC make some changes.

  • Fuzzbrain Pleasant Grove, UT
    Jan. 31, 2011 3:48 p.m.

    It's too late to salvage this season, the damage is done. Everything the Jazz do from this point forward should be about next season. Getting value out of their expiring contracts & adding some outside shooters will keep people interested this year & have everyone looking forward to an improved lineup for next season. I think Jerry Sloan has been an awesome coach but he isn't going to win Coach of the Year, nor is the Jazz going to win an NBA Championship this year. So it's time to fade out in the sunset Jerry. There's no shame in hanging up your clipboard after all of the great years you've given us fans.

  • Captain L Provo, UT
    Jan. 31, 2011 3:42 p.m.

    I've tried to stay on the CJ bandwagon for 6 yrs now, but I'm ready to see the Jazz trade him. He just doesn't show the heart, guts, toughness, desire to be a winner.
    He has all the talent but he won't work hard enough, he doesn't take it upon himself to say my team needs me, I'm going to try to carry them for a while. If I saw him working harder, busting his behind, etc I'd still keep hoping and forgiving but I just don't see it, I've hoped he would mature and with that maturity step up and become a leader and someone they could go to when they need a basket or a stop. He doesn;t show any fire or desire. It's time to make a move and trade for someone that wants to win and will bust his butt to do so.
    CJ may have talent but he doesn't have heart. The only time he plays with lots of emotion and energy is when he gets hot on the offensive end. I'm tired of it.
    KOC make some moves.

  • 1984 for life Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 31, 2011 2:40 p.m.

    To JFFR @ 8:17am

    All people get their shots blocked. Just not by the RIM. Hayward is awful and not a top 10 pick. Period.

  • The Great Houdini Rye, CO
    Jan. 31, 2011 2:16 p.m.

    miles,the best shooter in the NBA,bar none,oh also the best rebounder,best assist man,most blocks,most steals,best player ever,and don`t forget best shooting % and best +/-

  • TerryHaimes Sturgis, MS
    Jan. 31, 2011 1:43 p.m.

    Sloan and his 8 man rotation lost the game. If the five that finished the game had entered the game around the 8 minute mark, the Jazz win. You add a fresh horse or two or three to a tired team and you still have a tired team.

    If Millsap can't comprehend Sloan's remark about effort, have him watch a replay and I think he will have a revelation.

    Jefferson and Millsap don't play well together, on the surface they don't play the same type game but they use the same space so when one has the ball the other is watching and neither can spell, pass.

    Terry M. Haimes

  • BillM75 Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 31, 2011 1:37 p.m.

    It's starting to look and sound more and more like Sloan has lost the team, or at least is being tuned out. Happens to every coach eventually, except for Popovich.

    Not that a change would help much (who would they hire, Corbin?). The cold fact is that this roster is far too dependent on their PG (Isiah is the only pure PG to lead a championship team in scoring), and lacks size, athleticism and dynamic scoring ability.

    The last thing can be mostly overcome by a teamful of worldclass defenders, like the Celtics, Spurs & 2004 Pistons, but the Jazz aren't quite on that level. And it's not like BOS & SA can't score or play team offense.

  • wisdom of crowds vail, colorado
    Jan. 31, 2011 1:11 p.m.

    dismal shooting? or dismal mood? from over here in colorado, the answer seems obvious: keep. williams. happy.

    sloan can't coach "energy" or "heart" or "effort" or... but find him a freaking stop-gap mojo miracle to hold this thing together into the playoffs. because ol skool coaching don't smell like team spirit. not. so much.

  • SnipeHookyoFace Farmington, UT
    Jan. 31, 2011 12:57 p.m.

    Miles, AK, and Okur need to go. I'd say big Al too but nobody wants him. Millsap and Williams are the only untouchables, Millsap would be better served at 3 than 4. Trade AK, Miles, and Okur for Hamilton, Prince, and Wallace.


  • JFFR Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 31, 2011 12:24 p.m.

    @CJ, you gonna judge Millsap off of one night? He's consistently hit his outside shots this year.

  • Jazz-Nation Lehi, UT
    Jan. 31, 2011 12:12 p.m.

    I am no GM but I know we are paying AK 17.8 million Okur 10 million Al Jefferson 13 million.

    Matt Harpring 6 million trade exception about to expire.

    The rights to 7 foot 2 inch Ante Tomic over seas.

    Several expiring contracts not named AK.

    Why not make some deals to get better for the future?

    This team will not do anything or make any type of playoff run.

    Compared to the top 5 teams in the West, we are dead meat!

    The Jazz have assets to make this team better. It is time to make some moves.

  • carpediem Holladay, UT
    Jan. 31, 2011 11:41 a.m.

    Al Jefferson is a good player, but I think he has learned how to lose more than win because of his time with the T-Wolves, and has carried that over with him to the Jazz. I'm sure he like to win, but he has developed some bad habits of not passing the ball out and reposting, passing skills, and he doesn't go after rebounds as hard as he should.

  • Nuwee Mesquite, Nevada
    Jan. 31, 2011 11:14 a.m.

    Just when you think things can't get any worse, they do. I too, was bored to death watching last nights game. what the heck is going on? This team does not have heart, they are out there just going through the motions. Everything needs fixing, defense is horrible, they can't make a basket. The Jazz need to watch the Celtics play ball, that is how it should be done, they don't give up for a minute. They have heart.

  • JBQ Saint Louis, MO
    Jan. 31, 2011 11:11 a.m.

    Did you see Williams on the bench? He had "ear studs" bigger than your thumb nail. He had on a Rolex which was bigger than a "sun dial". The announcers kept talking about free agency. Is he hurt or just taking off to consult with his agent? With the February 24 trade deadline, it might be smart to arrange a trade when it looks like he "will do a Boozer" and leave. They have 20 losses. Portland at number 8 has 22 while Memphis and Phoenix have 24. It isn't a mystery where this is going.

  • holt56 Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 31, 2011 11:09 a.m.

    What NBA team in the last five years has improved, who fired their coach in the middle of the season? Can someone tell me? Yet that is the knee jerk reaction I see every time the Jazz lose like this. I agree some players need to do some serious gut checking about their desire and talent. But 'blow up' the team? What will that do, except add more chaos to an already chaotic situation. You think D-Will is frustrated now? Let's change out all the teammates he plays with to a bunch who have never played together to end this slump. C'mon people, think!

  • jcrotty25 Meridian, ID
    Jan. 31, 2011 10:56 a.m.

    next on the to do list trade andre kerilinko.. for troy murphy and sasha vujicic

  • one day... South Jordan, UT
    Jan. 31, 2011 10:52 a.m.

    sorry guys but Memo, CJ and AK needs to go! and get our big 3!!!

  • jcrotty25 Meridian, ID
    Jan. 31, 2011 10:48 a.m.

    looks like we are headed for the lottery .. hip hip horray ... ok KOC draft a tall athlete this time who can finish with dunks and can block shots..

  • Sneaky Jimmy Oak Town, CA
    Jan. 31, 2011 10:39 a.m.

    Why doesn't Fess play more? He was completely lost last night. Of course the whole team looked like they wanted to be somewhere else. They look like that are in pain and can't wait until the loss is final. When you can't play GS tough you need to pack it in.

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    Jan. 31, 2011 9:59 a.m.

    JFFR: Millsap couldn't hit a 10 footer last night. He is in the top 10 around the basket but not away from the basket. He is undersized and it showed last night. He had no impact on the game at all. The only player worse than him last night was Jefferson.

  • Vince the boonies, mexico
    Jan. 31, 2011 9:44 a.m.

    Stick a fork in this bunch, they are done, but too start with there was never really anything to cook!

  • Jazz Source Alpine, UT
    Jan. 31, 2011 9:30 a.m.


    Oh yes, that is a fair comparison. Lets examine Phil Jacksons coaching record when he does not have all the best players.

    When he had Kobe and a few other pieces he NEVER got past the first round of the playoffs.

    Only wins when he has the best.


    Of course your response will be Stockton and Malone. Lets not be silly. Jordan vs. Stockton?

    If Jordan had not been around, Sloan would have 2 banners hanging.

    The Al Jefferson experiment is looking like a borderline failure. He can't defend and he is not a fit for the Sloan motion offense.

    This offense will obliterate most defenses when the players run it.

    Right now Millsap is too short and Jefferson could not stop his grandma in the paint.

    Our offense starts from good defense and we are not getting any easy baskets because the interior defense is pathetic.

    Blaming a hall of fame coach for a bunch of soft/short players just shows your ignorance.

    If anything, it is Kevin O'Connors fault for putting the wrong players together.

    Can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear!!

  • SnipeHookyoFace Farmington, UT
    Jan. 31, 2011 9:29 a.m.

    This is a joke! Teams used to hate playing the Jazz cause they were so physical and even labeled "dirty." Now the jazz wont even get their hands dirty at all, especially on defense. This team, coach, management, and owner are a few steps away from losing this franchise. D-Will is gone if they don't make a move by the 24th. He wont wait til this summer for KOC to get the last of the "pickings" when Chicago, Golden State, etc all throw money at free agents....

  • Sokol Las Vegas, NM
    Jan. 31, 2011 9:10 a.m.

    Time to fire Sloan and blow up the team....Where is Miller? The softy with the nicely gelled hair needs to rant and rave...KOC is hiding in some corner of Europe scouting some dismal European draft pick or some atrocious draft pick like Gordon 'Opie' Milicic.
    The team, the ownership and the coaches need to be fired, start over someone....Hey Rockmonster, also know as the Jazz Polyanna Sports Writer, can you please write a fiery column about this failed mess?

  • KK Cedar Hills, UT
    Jan. 31, 2011 9:08 a.m.

    Every team the Jazz play are "champing at the bit." A little D goes a long way against this team. I agree with a comment earlier. The Jazz simply cannot shoot most nights. I am depressed because I can already see that Deron is ready to leave. He leaves, the Jazz as we know it could be done. Yes, I made a Doomsday prediction. I am still behind this team and will be until the day I die, or they leave SLC!!!

  • Jazz-Nation Lehi, UT
    Jan. 31, 2011 9:08 a.m.

    This is not Jazz basketball. I was very worried this summer that we were losing key players, I jumped on the KOC express when he pulled out a decent trade at the time to bring in Big Al and free agent Bell to help fill some huge hole. I was also very optimistic about this season because we had such a great pre season and good start. Now I have lost my mojo as a fan. This team is not very god at all. The front office needs to realize that they will lose more players and fans if they can not put a winning product on the floor. This team is just not a good defensive unit,terrible shooting and rebounding is not what we are used to seeing out of a Jerry Sloan basketball team. I think the Jazz need to turn the page. I think the Jazz should makes some big moves, it couldn't hurt, and it would show fans and key players that they are serious about winng games. Lets go Jazz.

  • Qmein14 west haven, ut
    Jan. 31, 2011 9:04 a.m.

    I agree with most comments today. A trade has got to happen right now if we are still wanting to salvage the year. By starting the rebuilding process this year, we will be ready to start contending by first of next season. I'm sorry but unless we make some huge changes D-will is out! Next year we will have a legit center in Ante Tomic who is being compared to Gasol of the Lakers. I think Big Al will work out once he's not playing the center position. Milsap is a better bench player than starter and will/ should start that roll next year. We are in dyer need of a high flying, take it to the rack, in your face three, shooting guard. I still think we can make a trade for Danny Granger of the Pacers. We need to get rid of Price, Fes and Hayward plus our exception from the Harpring trade last season. You throw all that in and a couple first round draft picks and next year smells like a championship team in the mix. Front office needs to get to work before we are left in the dust, again.

  • Utah Fan Jeff Moscow, ID
    Jan. 31, 2011 8:54 a.m.

    I am a Jazz fan, always have been, always will be. The problem isn't Sloan, missing Williams, etc. It is the lack of desire by the players. This constant blame on energy is old. To easy of an excuse. I wish I could decide how hard I have to work then blame my effort on energy. I would be fired. MAN UP guys. This team showed their talent earlier in the season, even if it was for just a half. if they can do it for a half they can do it for a game. If this team would work as hard as other teams such as the Celltics they would be where they belong. It is so hard to watch a team when you know they are better than they are playing. It is up to the players.

  • cdb salt lake, utah
    Jan. 31, 2011 8:52 a.m.

    I just want to know why ??? Why Fes does not get more playing time ? Why!! I know he was sick the last few games but what about the rest of the season? The impact a guy like Fes can make on a team is huge. Why??

  • ktsteve Mesa, AZ
    Jan. 31, 2011 8:39 a.m.

    This team is not playing like they want to win. It seems they lack intensity and effort. Why? I don't know. I was so excited the first 30 games of this season I thought we could get better with okur coming back. It has gone completley the other way. There is no question management needs to look to get back under the cap trade A.K.s expiring contract and for sure look for some shooters and somehow get this team to play defense and rebound. Easier said then done I know. This season to me is over as far having any hopes of fighting for a championship. Too bad. The late 90's of great keep fading and fading farther away. What a bummer!

  • Hugh G. Hater SLC, UT
    Jan. 31, 2011 8:24 a.m.

    Nothing will change.

    The miller/sloan (or johnson) love affair will continue for another generation.

    I would still support the team if they moved provided the owners focused on winning a championship, not playing a scheme.

  • JFFR Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 31, 2011 8:17 a.m.

    @CJ Miles, Paul Millsap certainly can shoot. He's in the top 10 in the league for field goal percentage.

    @1984, ya, Hayward got blocked. So what? It happens, its called basketball.

    Sorry guys, I'm still optimistic. I don't think we're good enough to beat the Lakers or Spurs, but this team is better than they've been the past few weeks. Lets just claw our way to All-Star break and regroup after that. You'll see. (This week could be another rough one though!)

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Jan. 31, 2011 7:55 a.m.

    Utah is a mystery team this year. I really thought they would be a contender in the west but as it turns out they are a fading has been. They seem completely intimidated by the big teams and they seem to be heartless on the road.

  • B Russ Ephraim, UT
    Jan. 31, 2011 7:55 a.m.

    This experiment didn't work and O Conner needs to get to work on the telephone and find us a 2 guard and a center. Big Al is not a center and stops the offensive flow of our team. Jerry can't coach this bunch and needs to retire to the farm, his time has come and gone. Small ball and Don Nelson like coaching doesn't work in todays NBA. Just ask Golden State.

  • Doug10 Roosevelt, UT
    Jan. 31, 2011 7:48 a.m.

    ARe you sure these were the Clippers and not the Lakers? Somebody tell the Jazz that before they play them next time.

    Jazz seemed to be looking for a car to lay down in front of.

    Jazz need to return to style of old, even though that does not mean playing with old players. It does however mean teaching Jefferson how to pick and roll and defend the same.

    It means pasing the ball until someone who is open can hit the shot. Gettting everyone involved and feeding off the energy created can be a boost to the team and players.

    Sloan recognized it and called it as it was street ball. Not that entertaining to watch a bunch of professional millionaires go and play street ball.

    If it is going to be that boring then allow fighting and yelling at the ref and call it church ball.

  • Rick Northport, NY
    Jan. 31, 2011 7:34 a.m.

    a coaching change would make a world of difference. what is Mr. Miller waiting for- falling into the ninth spot ? Pull the trigger now when there is the possibility of still grabbing the 3rd spot & homecourt in the 1st round ! If sloan stays, Utah gets the 8th or 9th spot & 4 games to 1, one in out if it's the 8th spot !!! Everytime the camera goes on sloans face, he always has this dumb founded look....

  • Wombat1247 Mount Beauty, VIC
    Jan. 31, 2011 5:08 a.m.

    Gerald Wallace from Charlotte would be good a fit and Xavier Henry from the Grizz as they have extra SG's , I wonder what we would have to give up for them?
    Wallace for Okur - works on the trade machine
    Henry for Hayward - works as well

    AK for Dalembert & Thompson - works as well

    Starting five then - 2nd Unit
    1. DWill Watson / Price
    2. Henry Bell / Miles
    3. Wallace Miles / Evans
    4. Jefferson Milsap / Elson
    5. Dalembert Thompson / Fes

    This is just some thoughts, this does add length, but there are most likley some better trades out there, but are they able to be done - or is KOC / Sloan going to be in denial again!

  • Johnson72 Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 31, 2011 2:49 a.m.

    Jimmie will not help this team.. The only thing that will help this team is a new coach.. How long must this go on for? Phil Jackson has been coaching almost as long as Sloan.. Nuff said.

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    Jan. 31, 2011 12:13 a.m.

    Todd...That is interesting since in the highlights, Bell was guarding him on at least two of his shots. Glad you pay attention before you make a comment. CJ was in his face on another shot. The other two, he was having to help off his man because no one on the team can guard anyone.

    No doubt CJ shot bad but he was desperate to try and score tonight as everyone was awful. Jerry is horrible at coaching games that are not going well. He did not adapt at all in the game.

  • toddfromsantaana Santa Ana, CA
    Jan. 30, 2011 11:55 p.m.

    No life or enthusiasm. Millsap in game too long after hot start. Bell holds Ellis to 2 and scores 12 himself and that should be enough to still beat that team.

    Golden State allows 47 percent shooting and 107 ppg on the season. Ak still cannot shoot well. neither did AJ or play D.

    Evans was needed for athleticism and length and energy and not used until garbage time.

    CJ awful and played even worse defense. Earl shows why he cannot play starters minutes, exposed huge by Curry.

    Fes not given a fair chance should be dealt for his advancement somewhere he is appreciated. The Jazz still should have had enough to beat Golden State.

    This team is in shambles, No energy or enthusiasm on the court and poor body language.

    The Jazz increasingly are becoming the talk of the National Media for what has happened. This is NOT JUST A LITTLE SLUMP.

    3 teams ahaed of them lose and they fail to take advantage. You got a tough Charlotte team tomorrow.

    Even a minor deal should be considered, the chemistry and the waters are getting choppy

  • chiefbrady Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 30, 2011 11:44 p.m.

    I would LOVE to see the Jazz make a trade for somebody that can hit the 3 but then Sloan doesn't like that.

    I think D-Will is gonna bolt. Let's make some trades here; AK for Rip Hamilton, Raja Bell for anyone on the Laker bench (or the actual bench itself), Al Jefferson and K-Fes and Memo for Carmello and start winning some games.

  • evanston Evanston, WY
    Jan. 30, 2011 11:37 p.m.

    I don't even care to watch this anymore. Could you tell me one player who even cares out there? Wow, blow it up. Trade anyone and everyone for young talent. Time to rebuild.

  • Wombat1247 Mount Beauty, VIC
    Jan. 30, 2011 11:30 p.m.

    blow this team up!

    we really need a sg that can actually score & Millsap even if he does work hard- just does not cut it - too small to be the main pf

  • Ak Fan Hamburg, GE
    Jan. 30, 2011 11:30 p.m.

    This very winnable game was. This lose on Sloan. Why the world he playing AL Jefferson that long he is single handily killed a game. Every time he touches ball shoots no matter what and misses. He becomes poor man Boozer everybody going around over him. If Jazz played trough AK and Millsap like Minnesota game could win. Today every ball went to AL and Jazz lost...

  • toddfromsantaana Santa Ana, CA
    Jan. 30, 2011 11:28 p.m.

    Cj Miles was the worst player on the court tonight I agree with Houdini, he stinks.,Williams hit 5-5 on him, you would defend him. He is like Linus sucking his thumb

  • 1984 for life Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 30, 2011 11:24 p.m.

    For all you Hayward fans- Did you see him get rejected by the rim AND the Warrior defender late in the fourth quarter on what he thought was a breakaway dunk? NICE. Guy is AWFUL.

  • cactusflats American Fork, UT
    Jan. 30, 2011 11:19 p.m.

    Paging Jimmer.

  • Anonigma Murray, UT
    Jan. 30, 2011 10:59 p.m.

    Ah puke.
    I don't know about this team anymore....when you look at Portland, OKC, Denver, etc. They all have talented players or at least a good amount of length.
    Jazz don't have a or length or talent right now, let alone any heart.

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    Jan. 30, 2011 10:55 p.m.

    My comment is: The Jazz can not shoot the ball. Most of their shots were not even close. Long and to the right. AK can not shoot. Bell can not shoot. Jefferson is a ball hog who can not shoot. Millsap not a very good shooter. Price and Watson horrible. CJ was on the rim all night but they wouldn't fall. Jerry doesn't understand his need to play CJ more in order to score points. The Jazz are a horrible team right now. This team needs scorers.

    Millsap can't do anything against bigger players. Even Amundson was blocking his shot. Jefferson is a black hole who can't shoot either. I was so bored watching the game.