Utah Jazz lose in La-La Land

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  • jcrotty25 Meridian, ID
    Jan. 26, 2011 8:27 p.m.

    I dont remember a single person agree with me when i was arguing that we needed to keep mathews at all cost...accually everyone mocked me.... now ppl try to act like... oh yeah we shoulda kept mathews .. lol what a joke

  • jcrotty25 Meridian, ID
    Jan. 26, 2011 8:21 p.m.

    Anyone who complains about the hayward pick needs to get the dumb slapped off of their face... why dont you complain about the previous 20 picks that koc made first... anyone who knows anything knows that when you are drafting lottery you are usually drafting and young young man usually still a teenager and anything other then the first few picks needs time to mature and develop ... hayward is accually only the 3rd or 4th pick ive agreed with in the last 10 years of jazz drafts..and he has already shown very good promise..

  • shaybo Richfield, UT
    Jan. 26, 2011 8:19 p.m.

    Re: CJMiles, come on now it's time to get off that bandwagon. I have stood by him from the beginning but by now he has developed into what he is going to be and i'm afraid that is a 1 good for every 3 he plays and that is not good enough for a starting shooting guard in the NBA unless he plays defense and that he doesn't do.

  • JFFR Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 26, 2011 5:56 p.m.


    Thanks for the response. Can't say I agree or disagree because I don't watch a lot of college basketball, but I'm glad you had something well thought out. From what I understood, Jazz fans were upset because we didn't get a huge talent... well guess what? There was no huge talent at #9.

    I thought the Jazz picked Hayward cause he has upside. You obviously disagree, but I must say that he continually surprises me with his jumping ability and his ability to block shots when he's chest to chest w/ a guy. Let's hope it pans out, but right now I'm still waiting on a consistent jump shot (something I waited on from Brewer for way too long!)

  • JBQ Saint Louis, MO
    Jan. 26, 2011 5:25 p.m.

    The team is headed "south for the winter". I am a Fez phan. He could be developed into something. That would take coaching. D-Wil appears to have made his mind. I love the Jazz and am very disappointed. This tells you a lot about society. Multi-ethnicity does not really work! We miss Boozer but not his psychiatrist. You can already see that the Bulls are being scarred by Boozer's penchant for psychological gamesmanship. He "has a hangnail" and he takes off for a week and says that it is his quads. Jefferson is psychologically balanced but with about half the talent of Boozer.

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    Jan. 26, 2011 4:59 p.m.

    You are right Bugoff, they really don't matter!!

  • Bugoff Houston, TX
    Jan. 26, 2011 4:43 p.m.

    I looked up the WinScores for the Jazz. (yes I know some of you hate that stat).

    I suspect they will tell most of you what you already have observed.

    DWill .224 underperforming from last year
    Millsap .179 underperforming
    AK .17 actually a little better
    AJ .103 underperforming
    Watson .093 best backup PG Utah has had in years (Gaines did not play).
    CJ .056 about the same old CJ
    Hayward .016 okay for a rookie but Not Mathews
    Bell .007 Not good for a starting SG
    Elson -.025
    Okur -.074 Not back yet at all
    Fes -.138 no progress
    Price -.084 really does not help
    Evans .395 one of the best in the league but play garbage minutes so it is not a true reflection.

    Based contributions to wins the best combo may be starting Watson at PG with DWill at SG and AK at SF with AJ and Millsap.

    As bad as these numbers are the Jazz won/loss record is amazingly good.

    The big problems are at C/PF and SG. DWill is down a little also.

    Small wonder the offense is not running well.

    Efficiency and rebounding are not good. Those 2 mostly drive WinScores.

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    Jan. 26, 2011 3:02 p.m.

    LAJazzfan.....We have a small forward who can not drive? Where did you come up with that one from? CJ gets to the hoop all the time. But on the other hand you are right. He shouldn't be a small forward, he should be the starting 2.

    Watson needs to play more. Price needs some minutes and Millsap needs to wake up from his month long nap. Jefferson needs to realize there are 4 other players on the floor on offense.

  • Sokol Las Vegas, NM
    Jan. 26, 2011 2:43 p.m.

    All of Jazzland is mum on the team. Noone calling out the players, no GM, no owner, noone except the fans yelling and screaming that this team STINKS.

  • Bugoff Houston, TX
    Jan. 26, 2011 2:28 p.m.

    There is one other option that MIGHT work in the short run.

    Start Watson at PG and move DWill to SG with CJ, AJ and Millsap. DWill and CJ should have enough outside shooting to open up the inside. 2 PGs may be able to get the ball inside more effectively.

    The Jazz played well in the past playing DWill with Fisher.

    It is a short run solution but might fix some of the problems.

    The Jazz are not getting the production out of AJ and Millsap. There are problems. Part of it is on the wings.

    When Korver joined the Jazz he immediately fixed a similar problem. He did not know the offense that first season but he fixed the problem because he could shoot.

    Part of the problem is AJ who tends to bog the timing down. Part of the problem is that the offense tends to run thru AJ and not Millsap.

    2 PGs may solve some of that.

    Go get a shooter with a trade exemption. The Jazz are not going to make the playoffs if this keep up. A Korver clone is cheaper than missing the playoffs.

  • LAJazzFan Stevenson Ranch, CA
    Jan. 26, 2011 1:58 p.m.

    I don't get to watch too many Jazz games as I live in SoCal, and wondered if some of the comments were a little harsh- however after last night's game I have to subscribe to many of the complaints.

    We have a starting shooting guard who can guard, but can't shoot. I lost track of how many open shots Bell missed (and I was excited when he signed up last year). We have gone from an embarrassment of riches at wing, to a dearth.

    We have 3 PF taking turns being a PF and a Center.

    We have one SF who can shoot, but not guard, and another who can play defense, but not shoot. Neither is effective at going to the basket.

  • BillM75 Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 26, 2011 1:44 p.m.

    No wonder Fisher wanted to leave for less money.

    As for Hayward, it was a crapshoot who to pick, the guys picked right behind him have been erratic, the best guy picked after him was Landry Fields at 39 to the Knicks of all teams.

    Fes was sick last night but Sloan has to start playing him again. Focus on what he can do, not what he can't.

  • Rick Northport, NY
    Jan. 26, 2011 12:57 p.m.

    any other coach would have been fired after a 2 month stretch like this. a terrific group of players not performing up to their potential. seeing D-Will on the bench with his HEAD DOWN. Then walking off the bench when the game ended the other nite towards the locker room with his head down instead of greeting & encouraging the players as they walked off the court as the game ended !!! SOMETHING very serious internally is going on btw. some players & or the coaches. This team leads the league EVERY year in giving ticky tack fouls & every game the other team is shooting fouls shots with 6 mins. left in every quarter. If you're going to foul, lets see some real tuff hits to make the other team think before they freely come into the paint for easy baskets..After seeing Al for only 1/2 a season, he is a soft player as well (boozer). Al cries EVERYTIME a foul is called on him. GIVE A HARD FOUL ONCE IN AWHILE BIG GUY. The other team is shoving it down your throats right at the rim & the JAZZ bigs guys are just watching. SLOAN MUST GO !!!

  • shaybo Richfield, UT
    Jan. 26, 2011 12:50 p.m.

    JazzFanSD: Your right about boxing out, but boxing out isn't really a skill, it's a state of mind and wanting to do it and the only one on the Jazz that actually makes an effort to do that is Fez and it apparently goes unnoticed by Sloan.

    Dustin C: Making a trade is fine but Hamilton's contract is as bad as AK's and for 3 more years. That would make no sense at all.

    Milsap starts losing his touch when he's not getting enough shots, we need him shooting more, AJ less. The team starts standing around when AJ gets the ball down low and it's interrupting the flow of the offense. Ocur too, he needs to go back to the "catch and shoot" player he was when they first got him.

  • SnipeHookyoFace Farmington, UT
    Jan. 26, 2011 12:41 p.m.

    @ Dustin - No thanks! I like Rip but he's getting old. According to ESPN today, Indy is trying to shuffle players around and "Granger is no longer untouchable." Its a stretch, I know-but the Jazz need to do something to get a Center and a Shooting Guard. I'm not sure how appealing AK's expiring contract is but I'd like to see at least a rumor that the Jazz are trying to do SOMETHING!

  • Bugoff Houston, TX
    Jan. 26, 2011 12:36 p.m.

    I also apposed trading AK early in the year for several reasons. Among others his expiring contract is worth more to the Jazz than it is to many other teams.

    AK is playing better, coming off of the bench. That appears to be his best role right now.

    In the longer run Hayward will develop into a very good player.

    Bell is not a bust. Sloan has just played him too many minutes. Play him about 12-15 minutes and let him go as hard as he can. In the meantime get a wing who can shoot.

    The Jazz can not get Iggy for AKs contract. PHI will want more and the Jazz do not have anything they want. The Jazz can add a shooter fairly cheaply to at least bust a zone. That shooter should be able to learn the offense by the playoffs.

    The biggest immediate problem is AJ/Millsap. They have not meshed. The inside game is not working. The production of both is down.

    Okur is poor on D and not in game shape but it is worth a try. Let him play hard for 5 minutes at a time if necessary.

  • Dustin C Torrance, CA
    Jan. 26, 2011 12:19 p.m.

    Can we somehow pull off a trade with the pistons and bring Rip Hamilton? That would really help the team...

  • louisiana jazz man Dubach, LA
    Jan. 26, 2011 12:11 p.m.

    sloan for coach of the year

  • JazzFanSD San Diego, CA
    Jan. 26, 2011 12:08 p.m.

    Everything starts at the defensive end. Okur is not the answer, he has never been good defensively and he has been worse this year if that's even possible. When Okurs on the floor he needs someone to protect him defensively. Fes shouldn't play big minutes, but if only to clog the lane to start the game, get a couple hard fouls, set a tone. the guy cant be out there for extended time because he cant shoot free throws, but the Jazz need to win a couple first quarters soon, or this team will be lost for good. (really bad body language lately) Giving up 30+ points every first quarter will not stop with Okur starting the games. I also have been an AK fan for a long time and was happy the off season trade fell apart, but he has lost his explosiveness. He is no longer able to dunk in traffic and when he gets to the rim now, more often then not its a blocked shot. Finally isn't the "box-out" the most fundamental of all plays? Find your guy box out? It seems the Jazz lack this skill.

  • Your dead Uncle Saint George, UT
    Jan. 26, 2011 11:59 a.m.

    remember before the season during the free agency mass exodus when everyone on here was talking of how difficult the season would be with the losses we sustained? Then we signed a couple names and outperformed to start the season. Well,....Welcome back to reality. There is no excuse for lack of effort, but the Jazz are exactly where most expected them to be before we were star struck by Jefferson & Bell.

  • shaybo Richfield, UT
    Jan. 26, 2011 11:59 a.m.

    JazzFanSD: I totally agree with you on Iguodalla for AK trade. The biggest need the Jazz have is a SG or SF who will come night after night and drop shots and play a consistent all around game.

    AK gets way to much credit for his defense because of his shot blocking. How much good do a couple of blocks do for you while he's dropping off his man to get them while his man stands in the corner alone dropping three's.

    CJ is too inconsistent to be a starter and is a defensive liability. When he is not on take him out and leave him out.

    Quit ragging on Hayward, he's one of the hardest workers on the team and 7 of the 8 drafted before him have not exactly been burning up the league.
    No upside? Get real. He is a good strength program during the off season away from being a really good all around player.

  • Johnson72 Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 26, 2011 11:50 a.m.

    This needs to start with the Miller Family.. How much longer can Coach Sloan go on for?

  • Sokol Las Vegas, NM
    Jan. 26, 2011 11:45 a.m.

    Could Evans, Fesenko or Price played worse? At least these three guys compete..

  • Elcapitan Ivins, UT
    Jan. 26, 2011 11:21 a.m.

    I will read about it in the papers....just too miserable to watch.

  • Bugoff Houston, TX
    Jan. 26, 2011 11:09 a.m.

    NYJazzFan has hit it.

    It will take AJ at least a year to actually learn the system and how to play within it. He may never. In the meantime, Millsap is underperforming as the offense does not flow properly.

    The Jazz need more and better shooting wings but Okur can open up the inside to some extent if he is 100%.

    The Okur, Millsap, AK, CJ, DWill line up is not optimal but they know the system and that is a lot better than what is going on right now.

    There is no easy quick fix for the offensive flow problems. All 5 players have to know the offense and get the timing right.

    AJ may as well learn the offense against weaker opposition. Bell needs limited minutes. Sloan runs his Vets into the ground and then they ease off. That disrupts the timing. Sloan has that problem over and over again.

    Starting Fes is an option but does he know the offense? Further, he is not that good on offense. I am not sure he solves the primary problem.

    This is a Sloan problem. One of how to manage the return of Okur while developing AJ.

  • gazelle Murray, UT
    Jan. 26, 2011 11:05 a.m.

    Re: JFFR

    That was well said my friend !!

  • Ak Fan Hamburg, GE
    Jan. 26, 2011 10:57 a.m.

    Good point NYJAzzFAn

  • Billy24 Salt Lake City, Utah
    Jan. 26, 2011 10:53 a.m.

    I disagree, I don't think they have the talent right now. Maybe I'd agree if you said 'potential' but right now they look over matched talent wise, and it's not close when you think of the top teams in the League.

    I agree with whats been said about finding a true C to play. Either Paul or Al will have to go to the Bench. Neither want to rebound especially against a team that has a true C out there. Fes is our obi won, he's our last hope. We've lost 5 in a row, soon to be 6, what do we have to lose. Play him as long as fouls and endurance will allow.

  • NYJazzFan East Elmhurst, NY
    Jan. 26, 2011 10:49 a.m.

    The Jazz are flawed starting Milsap and Jefferson. We need to start Memo alongside Jefferson and AK (starting Hayward for AK, really?). That above lineup gives the Jazz the size to deal with anyone. If you are gonna make a lineup change go with Hayward or Price at the 2 for Bell. I guarantee Memo will open up space for Jefferson and that will take some pressure of DWill. Bell needs to start hitting shots..

  • Sokol Las Vegas, NM
    Jan. 26, 2011 10:42 a.m.

    Hugh G. Hater...you are regretably accurate with that assessment. He does have impressive gelled hair. Would his dad have put up with this junk?
    I guess mediocre is all we Jazz fans can expect for another 40 years.

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    Jan. 26, 2011 10:35 a.m.

    The sad thing about this is the Jazz have the talent to win the whole thing this year. The problems are mostly mental. It starts with their captain. He lacks energy and his team mates sense that. Their confidence is shot.
    I turned the game off during the first quarter last night. It was painful.

  • Hugh G. Hater SLC, UT
    Jan. 26, 2011 10:31 a.m.


    Why should Greg Miller rant?
    This is exactly the team he wants.

    A team just good enough to get into the first
    round of the playoffs and keep home game ticket sales manageable. With year over year price increases.

    23 more years!

  • Bugoff Houston, TX
    Jan. 26, 2011 10:30 a.m.

    Okur may not be ready yet but I think I would try Okur, Millsap, AK, CJ and DWill to start the game. They know the offense. That might get Millsap going. That might get the execution needed.

    After about 10-12 minutes I would replace Okur with AJ and try to get him going. After that, Okur could give Millsap a rest. Depending on the SF rotation AK could also.

    Sooner or later there is going to be a 3 player rotation among the bigs (AJ/Okur/Millsap). It might as well be sooner.

    Fez is a special situation player. I suspect neither Fez nor Elson really know the offense. Neither have sufficient offense to start consistently.

    The rotation among AK, CJ, Bell and Hayward is less problematic. Give the minutes to whoever is playing well.

    The problem is spacing and players not running/knowing the offense. Play the combo that knows the offense.

    AJ can ad lib a lot better against the second team. Ditto for Hayward and Bell.

    Sloan is going to have to do something that actually addresses the real problem. The current C/PF line up is not executing his offense and not playing D.

  • Viva Los Jazz Garland, UT
    Jan. 26, 2011 10:20 a.m.

    We had better rebound after a five games in a row. What happened to the team early on this year that could beat anyone? I'm almost to the point where I think we start trading players and rebuild for next year when we get Tomac and Jimmer?

  • Motappin Sandy, UT
    Jan. 26, 2011 10:13 a.m.

    The Jazz are trying to play NOT to lose, instead of playing to WIN like they should be. It obviously doesn't work that way.

    When you simply play to NOT lose, you do. When you play with the mindset and expectation of winning, then you have something.

    Kinda hard to have a winning attitude when you've lost 5 straight, but they've gotta pull their heads out and realize their potential is there for the taking if they'll just reach out and grab it.

  • Sokol Las Vegas, NM
    Jan. 26, 2011 10:12 a.m.

    Where's Greg Miller ranting and raving or is he at the hair salon? Where is KOC or is he scouting some slow, no passion European? Where is Sloan or is that just his ghost?
    Where are the million dollar babies, Jefferson, Millsap, and Williams? No leadership, no passion.
    The coach should bench these losers. Maybe the time has come to blow up the team and get rid of Sloan and Williams. Please Gordon 'Opie Milicic' has done nothing.
    They are the Utah Cavaliers of the west.

  • Mike in Texas Allen, TX
    Jan. 26, 2011 10:05 a.m.

    We need to face the facts. Right now they are just not a very good basketball team.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Jan. 26, 2011 10:03 a.m.

    the Jazz get destroyed by the Celtics and the Lakers. Not a good omen for the playoffs. The Jazz have the players this year and the size they just seem to play soft - especially on defense and seem intimidated by the Lakers and the Celtics.

  • Bugoff Houston, TX
    Jan. 26, 2011 9:59 a.m.

    Sloan knows exactly what has killed the flow in his offense. He also knows that shuffling the SF is not going to fix it.

    Utah got 21 points combined from AJ and Millsap. The offensive flow is disrupted. In most of the last 6 games it has been the Jazz not the oppositions defense that has disrupted the flow.

    These same players executed it well sporadically for the first half of the year. Now they can't execute at all. They (and Sloan) know who is disrupting the offense.

    Sloan is going to have to make some changes. POP would never put up with this. Run the system or sit.

    Last year SA looked like old washed up fools for bringing in R Jefferson. This year they are the NBA's best team.

    This team is capable of winning. But they have to decide they are going to play defense and run the offense.

    SG is a weakness. Bell is playing too many minutes. Hayward is not ready (good in the future).

    The Jazz need to pick up a shooting SG with a trade exemption or a trade.

    Okur is not ready yet.

    Sloan has limited options.

  • SnipeHookyoFace Farmington, UT
    Jan. 26, 2011 9:51 a.m.

    I was pleasantly surprised with Miles last night and think he should be starting at 2 rather than Bell. Bell, AK, and Okur need to go. The Jazz need to find a center so Al can move to 4 and Millsap to 3.

    The fans should be upset with KOC and Williams right now. Sloan is doing everything he can with what he's got but I can't say the same for Williams. Watson has more heart than him.

    ??? Center - we got killed inside last night!

  • Ak Fan Hamburg, GE
    Jan. 26, 2011 9:36 a.m.

    Hey Jazz fans!
    Why Jazz loosing? It starts Sloan and mainly on Deron. If your PG takes 1/4 whole team shots with 25% promised land doesn't look good. Sloans stubborns and Deron's selfishness destroying Jazz.
    Good luck with SA.

  • klepsydra Longmont, CO
    Jan. 26, 2011 9:33 a.m.

    Hopefully tonight Sloan will go with a DWill, CJ, AK, PM, AJ. Bell needs to play with the second unit.

  • Iowa Jazz Fan 2 Cedar Rapids, IA
    Jan. 26, 2011 9:28 a.m.

    In the last two weeks atmosphere has gone from concerned to disturbing to worrisome to bizarre to desperate to . . . absurd.

    Are we in some kind of surreal movie all of a sudden?

  • CJ Miles Dallas, TX
    Jan. 26, 2011 9:20 a.m.

    When's the last time we heard talk that Millsap should be an All-Star? Two months? When is he going to show up again? No one on here is talking about him either in a positve way. He wanted to be a starter so bad but he needs to go to the bench.

    Jefferson needs to learn to play with the other players and be in the right place at the right time. Memo is horrible right now due to being out of shape.

    Time to be men against San Antonio. Manu will eat us up!!

  • satch Highland, UT
    Jan. 26, 2011 9:16 a.m.

    I love the jazz, but let's face the facts. We don't have the $ to bring in top talent. D-Will WILL be gone. If I were him I'd be gone too. Utah every year is in the middle somewhere.

    Other than D-WILL and Milsap do we have anyone else that is a grade B- or better in the league? Al can't rebound or play defense and Kirilenko is injury prone.

    To win in this league you must have at least 3 players that are A- or better and a solid defender in the paint. We have none.

    D-WILL knows the jazz can't bring in talent.

  • RedRyder SLC, Utah
    Jan. 26, 2011 9:15 a.m.

    There is no "heart" with this team. They don't seem to care to win or lose. I can handle a loss if they could at least act like they cared. CJ Miles, you don't love baseketball, you play like it just doesn't matter. DWill..your selfish and just looking for a road out of here. AK..nuff said. Paul Milsap, your wishing you had taken the offer from Portland now aren't you. Okur, your done. Shall I go on? Its time to find a team with HEART otherwise I guess I'll just have to watch something else and for sure not wasting my money on a team with no HEART.

  • J-TX Allen, TX
    Jan. 26, 2011 9:15 a.m.

    @ JFFR:
    You said sarcastically, "Watson, Price, Hayward, Elson and Fesenko. That's our championship team!!!"

    I guess no one in Jazz land really knows what a CHAMPIONSHIP team looks like, right? Not seeing any NBA Champion banners up there,,,, Might as well try something new.....

  • Jazz Cop San Francisco, CA
    Jan. 26, 2011 9:11 a.m.

    Has Fesenko had the bug ever since okur returned from injury. I was worried what might happen when okur returned, go ahead and play em some sloan, roll out that lineup you love, the one with price and okur...it's been doing wonders for the other team.

  • J-TX Allen, TX
    Jan. 26, 2011 9:01 a.m.

    @ PalmG: Of course Matthews is dominating in PDX, they don't have anyone else, so he's getting great minutes. What do they have, 8 healthy guys, and still only 2 games back of the Jazz? :-) No, really he's doing great. Good for him.

    I loved the Odom comment: "That's fun," said Odom, who had 17 points off the bench. "That's basketball when you're seven years old out there having fun with the game and the ball just goes in."

    Actually, I know a couple of 7-year-old teams that could have competed with the Jazz last night....

    And the Coup de grace, so y'all know where I'm coming from: "Can you say Three-peat? Again?" Lakers are going to come on strong here to the playoffs, Jackson will have his 12th ring as a coach, and - sorry you Kobe haters - the Lakers will finally be seen as the dominant BB team in the modern era.

    Time to rebuild, Jazz....

  • The Great Houdini Rye, CO
    Jan. 26, 2011 8:55 a.m.

    Let Miles start at the 2 and sit Bell,we beat San Antone tonight,mark it down,GO JAZZ

  • rjpkp Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 26, 2011 8:51 a.m.

    DWill, Thanks in advance for playing in Utah. If management isn't willing to spend to keep players like Matthews, I would leave too. I, for one, won't boo you when you come back to play in Utah.

  • JazzFanSD San Diego, CA
    Jan. 26, 2011 8:41 a.m.

    Trade I would like to see. It seems when trade rumors start swirling, Andre Iguodala's name gets mentioned routinely. The 76ers want to get out from under his contract.This is a guy who would fix some of our teams issues. Elite defender, athletic, has never been great at being "the guy" in Philly but is a perfect 2nd superstar. He proved last summer he could be that guy. Gets his scoring where he can, and takes on the best players for the other team. Sort of a poor mans Scottie Pippen. If it's just a matter of a salary dump, and they don't want to pay him for the next 3-4 years, maybe they would be interested in AK's deal. Jazz need to do something. How about something like AK and Miles (Both have 1 year left) for Iguodala and Kapono.(according to ESPN 1 year left for Kapono, but at least he can shoot it) Then we go, Fes, AJ, Hayward, Iguodala and Dwill. Then we still have, some combo of Millsap, Watson, Price, Bell and Okur to come off the bench.

  • Motappin Sandy, UT
    Jan. 26, 2011 8:41 a.m.

    Lose the stupid mouth guards (distraction) and bring back Deron's beard! There's no chemistry out there AT ALL. Remember last year or the year before when they weren't playing well and we heard several of them say they weren't having any fun out there? I see the same problem now. Back then, once they started having fun they started winning, and it was fun for us to watch the play and the growing beard. Perhaps they're so down and so worried that they're preoccupied with the fear of losing and aren't letting themselves just go out and play.

  • apa salt lake, utah
    Jan. 26, 2011 8:36 a.m.


    Its time to put down the calculater,protractor and sharp pencil. Pick up the hammer and put this team back to work. Stop over thinking players and positions. Play your five best players or those that seem to want to play and see what happens. We as fans are giving you the green light to do something crazy like that.
    Thanks apa
    P.S We just want to see a team that plays with some Attitude,Heart,Passion, What ever. We're tired of these stone faced wimps!!

  • eyeliketoreadthepaper Orem, UT
    Jan. 26, 2011 8:28 a.m.

    The Lakers are just a better team and are in a better mindset at this point in the season.

  • mick.mcgirr Arlington, VA
    Jan. 26, 2011 8:24 a.m.

    In response to JFFR, I may well eat my words in the future, but Hayward seemed like a player with very limited upside at the 9th pick. The players the Jazz could have traded down for: Ed Davis, who has shown a knack for rebounding and shotblocking, Larry Sanders-same as Davis, Jordan Crawford, Landry Fields, Paul George, Luke Babbitt and many others who have displayed talent at the least equal to Haywards so far. At the 8 slot, I can't say there was much better than Hayward, but when you have see that your pick may not have much upside, it's time to look at trading down to take a few fliers. I'm actually really pulling for ol' Gordo, so don't take these comments as critical of him, I'm just pointing out other options the Jazz had.

  • JazzFanSD San Diego, CA
    Jan. 26, 2011 8:22 a.m.

    A lineup change needs to happen but Sloan is looking at the wrong position. Fes should start at C,(even if he only gets the first 6 minutes of the 1st and 3rd) and AJ should move to the 4. Return Millsap to the bench. He is too small to mark starting NBA PF's and I think the rest of the league is now aware. They attack him right from the start. It seems the opposing teams 4 hasnt shot under 60% since Nov. Millsap should do what he does best, come off the bench, chip on his shoulder, and chew up 2nd teamers. 25 min a night, or more depending on matchups. Also Raja, I like him for the team, but his best days are gone. He should also be getting 15-20 min a night max. I wouldn't mind seeing, Fes, AJ, Hayward, Miles, and Dwill. Longer, younger, and more atheltic.

  • Teafortwo salt lake city, utah
    Jan. 26, 2011 8:10 a.m.

    The Jazz are lazy and apathetic. They just don't care enough about winning to put forth the all-out effort required to be a contender in the NBA. They like to coast against weak teams and they end up losing games they should win. They do it every year and every year it hurts their seed in the playoffs.
    The Jazz were more fun to watch and cheer for back in the first years after John & Karl left. They weren't very good, but they gave 100% effort every game......

  • Doug10 Roosevelt, UT
    Jan. 26, 2011 8:07 a.m.

    Right now the Laers are rolling and the Jazz are not, however the Jazz have shown and proven they are a really good team and capable of beating anyone in the NBA.

    Right now they have lost their swagger and confidence but that does not mean they should "trade everyone or pitch the GM and coach" that type of thinking has not brought the Jazz years of playoff basketball.

    The fans seem to be so picky, they had a 20/10 player but he was not polite so they trade him in on a polite player who doesn't score and again they are unhappy.

    AK has had his best years in basketball and he needs a new home. If he left the Jazz they would not miss him terribly and he has the most attractive trade appeal. Outise AK the Jazz do not have a lot to trade.

    Slow and steady captain KOC.

  • Jazz-Nation Lehi, UT
    Jan. 26, 2011 7:53 a.m.

    It is tough rooting and cheering for a team that seems to just play lazy and just goes through the motions. Our second group of bench players showed more hart, Hayward, Evans, Watson, Price. I liked the fact that CJ MIles was finally starting, but for goodness sake, get rid of Bell, he is a cancer to the starting line up, major liability. Time to turn the page, this group is not working. I would trade anyone on this team, nobody on this team is untouchable at this point. NOBODY!

  • Hugh G. Hater SLC, UT
    Jan. 26, 2011 7:16 a.m.

    The big 3 aren't getting it done on offense or defense.

    The important thing is that KOC and GM saved money by dumping talent.

  • JFFR Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 26, 2011 7:07 a.m.

    And for those of you still bitter about the Hayward pick. Please, tell me. Who should they have picked?

  • JFFR Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 26, 2011 7:06 a.m.

    I have an idea... LET'S PANIC!

    You are all ridiculous. Start the bench? Okur's return made us worse?

    Do you really want to start the bench?

    Watson, Price, Hayward, Elson and Fesenko. That's our championship team!!!

    Think back to March of 2007. The Jazz are in good position to get a decent playoff seeding. They lose 7 games in a row, getting blown out by the Suns. Larry Miller get's so mad that he storms on the court, goes on a tirade and yells "We suck!"

    Two months later the Jazz go on the longest playoff run since 98.

    Now. This team is not as good as that team. We are in a bit of trouble, but the reason I like Sloan is because he won't panic. Thats what a leader does, stay with your principles of success and things will work out.

    In all honesty, I think there is a decent chance AK gets traded. Other than that, you are just going to have to be patient and watch the Jazz start to improve.

  • bgl Santa Monica, CA
    Jan. 26, 2011 7:05 a.m.

    "Jazz lose in La La Land."
    Come on Jody. A high school newspaper should be able to come up with something better than that. It adds nothing to the story and it sounds kind of petty. The Jazz got destroyed by a really good team.

  • PalmG Glen Allen, VA
    Jan. 26, 2011 6:46 a.m.

    why did we let matthews go he is dominating in portland. Aside from the fact that no one knows the plays, we dont have a shooting guard who can actually score. Lets trade for Rip hamilton, at least to get rid of AK because he is playing just awful right now

  • scalman Temecula, CA
    Jan. 26, 2011 5:57 a.m.

    I say give Deron two games off, start Watson, Fesenko in place of Jefferson and Hayward in place of Bell, and let's see what happens.

  • forgetyourself Layton, UT
    Jan. 26, 2011 5:35 a.m.

    We are in deed suffering at the 2. We can not afford to trade AK or CJ. We need to think about putting AL or Paul on the bench with Memo and Fes at the center. They are true centers. We need to commit to seeing on getting a starting 2 guard. Bell would be better off the bench. AK needs to start in order to perform. CJ gets our bench going.

  • nottyou Riverton, UT
    Jan. 26, 2011 5:27 a.m.

    "Utah's 17th straight loss to the Lakers in L.A." -- If we had Boozer, things would be much better...oh, that's right, he was around for most of those losses...never mind.

  • cjm Layton, UT
    Jan. 26, 2011 5:20 a.m.

    and the cavs have the worst record in the nba right now....hmmm.....hope for a high lottery pick for the jazz. it doesnt matter how many games they win or lose from here on out cuz there wont be any playoffs, actually whats the point in the playoffs if your team is so predictable anyway and your going to get swept for 2 yrs in a row.

  • Wombat1247 Mount Beauty, VIC
    Jan. 26, 2011 4:44 a.m.

    Trades must happen, but not sure what we could get in return.

    All players available apart from DWill & J Evans

    No harm in looking at the market, there are some gettable players out there, KOC needs some action on those phones.

    Coach Sloan - It may be time to go back to the farm, but if you still have the passion, please show us!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Kakashi Tokyo, Japan
    Jan. 26, 2011 4:12 a.m.

    how about an Organization overhaul...and trade all-players that is worth a first round draft pick...trade AK to the nets for two first rounders...maybe they'll bite...if it turned out to be lottery...we could get Kyrie Irving...we need a new front office...better scouts...a new young defensive minded coach...and a group of solid young talent that could be the base of a very young nucleus for our team...tank the season or seasons...the players seems to be tanking games anyway...

  • toddfromsantaana Santa Ana, CA
    Jan. 26, 2011 1:45 a.m.

    Humiliating for the city and the state. The Lakers laughing and having a good time at our expense. As a Jazz fan, this stated should be livid this organization is not trying to make major lineup changes or even a trade to get this ship back in the right waters.

    The fact is the Jazz are in danger of falling below Denver 1 Game Back and Portland at #8 now just 2.

    CJ scored early and did ok then you take him out a long period and the Lakers stretch the lead to out of sync proportions. The Lakers length hurts us. Jeremy Evans probably should have got a chance in the first half. When you are down by so many why would you not play Evans but give AK, a Sloan favorite 23 minutes. 23 minutes of 3-10 and no impact shooting or defense, just to run the floor on a break and finis or something.

    Watson is one of my favorites but he is not a NBA starting Point Guard. What he is valuable, quick player as top 8 in rotation.

  • Holiday St. George, Utah
    Jan. 26, 2011 1:18 a.m.

    During the commercial break I kept seeing these Bailey's Moving and Storage commercials with D-Will. I think D-Will really IS considering using their services to get his way out of Utah in a couple years judging by the way we've been playing lately. Seriously, this is absolutely ridiculous. I think we need to do what Orlando did when they bottomed out and revamp the roster. NOT blow it up, but change a few things.

  • concerned jazz fan Park City, UT
    Jan. 26, 2011 12:25 a.m.

    Kevin made a mistake of letting Matthews go, no offense to Bell but the Jazz are suffering in that 2 spot, everybody made mistakes, that's ok, but that doesn't mean that he won't do anything about it and just wait the season ends..I expect Kevin to work on something before the trade deadline or maybe gamble on someone on the D-league, right now no one in the current rotation is good enough to replace Bell in that position, teams are now attacking that weakness of ours which is now our no.1 weakness..it's never too late Kevin, please do something about it

  • B Russ Ephraim, UT
    Jan. 26, 2011 12:17 a.m.

    What happened from Nov. Dec. to now? Could it be the players and coaches have been infected with the dreadful big head disease? There seems to be a lazy attitude amongst this team that has suddenly caught up with them all. Except Jeremy Evans.

  • rvalens2 Burley, ID
    Jan. 26, 2011 12:08 a.m.

    Soon to be six in a row ... definitely headed the wrong direction ... fast. Much more of this and the Jazz can count themselves out of the playoffs.

    Best part of the game was watching the subs play.

  • carpediem Holladay, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 11:49 p.m.

    We need to bring in Norm Chow as our offensive coordinator.

  • In My Humble Opinion South Jordan, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 11:45 p.m.

    Bearone | 11:18 p.m. Jan. 25, 2011
    Monroe, UT
    I am not---but if I was---the coach, I think I might start the game with the bench players---they seem to play with moree intensity when they are in there---then bring the old starters in relief. At least for a couple of games---I think it might work.

    I agree. Lots of people playing like they are entitled. Bench them and let them mope and whine until they figure out THEY are the problem and need to step up.

  • Bearone Monroe, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 11:18 p.m.

    Fez didn't play tonight because he is sick with the bug---.

    I am not---but if I was---the coach, I think I might start the game with the bench players---they seem to play with moree intensity when they are in there---then bring the old starters in relief. At least for a couple of games---I think it might work.

  • Nevada fan Washoe Valley, NV
    Jan. 25, 2011 10:47 p.m.

    Like I said before D Will is sooo out of here. Blame it on Coach, management and it started off with the Hayward pick. I've read that since Okur has came back it has set the team back and I believe it, also I am no expert by any means, but why not use Fes earlier and more

  • I-am-I South Jordan, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 10:38 p.m.

    This is not a slump. This is a joke. Why again did we all of a sudden stop running the pick and roll this season. It seems to work really well when other teams run it against us then again everything does. This isn't going to work we need to do something before the trade deadline. Maybe we can get something out of Williams before he jumps ship with free agency. Watson is looking really good at point and why do we need a super-star at point guard if we don't even bother to run the pick and roll anymore. Ok maybe that's a little extreme we should try actually running the pick and roll in our offense. Actually running a play and getting into the paint regularly rather than throwing up jump shots will help us score points and slow down the other team's offense helping us on defense. William's and Millsap could be a deadly combo but some reason we feel we need to work the other guys into the offense cause we're actually paying them more than Millsap. Did I mention we have stopped running the pick and roll?

  • Uteology Fort Worth, Texas
    Jan. 25, 2011 10:27 p.m.

    Not looking good for Jazz Nation... at least tomorrow is another day. Oops we play the best team in the nation tomorrow, I smell another beat down coming.

    At this point does it really matter if make another playoff as a 5-7 team? No shot at a ring in site, look for DWill to take his talents to Dallas in the near future.

  • Uteology Fort Worth, Texas
    Jan. 25, 2011 10:11 p.m.

    Wow... we're getting pounded by the Lakers. Once against we get destroyed in the first quarter 22-37. I think this is 4 straight games where the opponent has shot over 50%... Lakers shooting 63%.

    I don't see this team getting any better, considering that even when they were winning they had still had 10+ come from behind wins (aka lucky).

    At this rate we might be able to get a top 10 lottery pick... oh wait we took Hayward.

  • Hellooo Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 10:10 p.m.

    The Jazz are looking more and more like the team against whom they had their second to the last win.

  • In My Humble Opinion South Jordan, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 10:07 p.m.

    Why hasn't Fes played? He can't play worse than everyone else has, and he has the size and length to keep people away from the basket.

  • pate123 willard, ut
    Jan. 25, 2011 10:05 p.m.

    Absolutely ridiculous, there is no excuse to be playing as pathetic as they are. I like you Jerry, and I think you've been great for the Jazz over the years, however it starts with you and KOC for standing pat amidst some serious problems this current team has. It's basketball, yet they make it appear as if they are performing brain surgery out there. We're tired because we played 30 minutes a night and even back to back, try and tell that to an endurance athlete,30-40 minutes a night is peanuts folks, especially for a young so called professional.Wait, I know the answer; let's give them all millions more to shoot 30% and come up with more excuses of why their not only losing, but getting blown out to some poor teams in the process!