Panel: 'Family' films not friendly to women

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  • Travis Burnswell Logan, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 2:25 a.m.

    If the article is any indication of the quality of the film, they'll be lucky to play it in Jr. High schools.

  • Travis Burnswell Logan, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 1:34 a.m.

    @Not So Fast

    I enjoyed your list of the objector's beliefs and found them to be imaginative, sneaky, and made-up.

    Films like this promote an asexual society where everyone should have the exact equal amount of everything (time, job offers, money, etc.). But in the real world not everyone deserves an exact equal amount of everything and to suggest that they do is insane. Look at the WNBA. The WNBA will NEVER come close to the popularity of the NBA, you know why? Because women basketball players are a lot less fun to watch. Should they get paid as much as male players? No, because they don't sell as many tickets or attract as many sponsors. So should we force kids to watch the WNBA so they don't grow up sexist? No, that's what parents are for.

    There is not a single kid out there who watches G-rated movies, subconsciously takes note of the boy/girl ratio, and then decides to be sexist against the group less represented. This is silly. Complete nonsense. Boys and girls are different, offer different skills, and have different roles/jobs in life.

  • michaelm Waukesha, WI
    Jan. 23, 2011 10:57 p.m.

    I find this article misleading at best and dishonest to me most likely. Girls and women clearly dominate G movies and TV. Anyone watch the Disney channel for example? Name one show, just one that is male dominated you can't, there are not any. Girls are always the smart and in control characters, boys are goofy at best, dishonest, make poor decisions, are always in trouble and require the smart, sometimes too sexy for the age girls to rescue them, figure out the problems and solve every situation. Even the Disney show with the twin boys on the cruise ship has twice as many girls on it and all the girls are far smarter than the boys.

    Watch andy commercial men are always stupid, inept, dishonest, or incapable of the simplest of tasks. Always a woman ready to rescue them.

    How about movies then? Women are always trash talking men even in male oriented action movies, the women are still always the ones in control, most confident, and critical f male antics, stupidity, and testosterone overload.

    In reality it is men at the disadvantage and our children being taught men are lame, irresponsible, stupid and inept.

  • Not So Fast Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 23, 2011 10:07 p.m.

    SittingReading: You make an excellent point that boys' values shouldn't be based only on looks or athletic ability. (Fitness is a value we should teach though.) Our whole society, no doubt, focuses too much on beauty. I confess I like it too.

    But you lost me on the "slanted view" part. How are wanting good role models for girls and "women are important too" a slanted view?

  • Not So Fast Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 23, 2011 9:43 p.m.

    This isn't an issue FOR women, its ABOUT women. Its FOR boys/men too.

    "This is a job security issue for actresses with little talent who are waning in the beauty department."

    This comment makes it a beauty issue and enforces that a woman's worth is based on looks. If only actresses who are young and pretty get jobs, that IS the problem.

    To suggest Davis is pouring money into a foundation so she can make another movie is a pretty imaginative, sneaky, made-up motive. The director is showing her film in schools, also not very financially wise. The man involved (as if men shouldn't care because women are talking) runs Common Sense Media. Do you folks object to that too?

    So to be clear, the objectors believe the following:

    A) Females in TV/movies are fine in the background

    B) Media women are worthwhile only if sexy and young

    C) Media never needs depict role models for females

    D) Boys watching TV/movies can also think of girls as only romance seekers and less important than boys or only watch shows with boys in them

    Have I understood correctly?

  • SittingReading Sandy, UT
    Jan. 23, 2011 6:33 p.m.

    I find it ironic that they ignore the "image" most males should try for. Most of the family friendly movies have male characters that are thing athletic pretty boys. Where is the movie to show that leaning.

    Controversy always sells. This seems to be just another example of it. If Utah ignores this, we'll just be portrayed as a chauvinist society instead of people feeling that it isn't worth their children getting a slanted view.

    But then again, i am just a guy, what could i possibly know.

  • Travis Burnswell Logan, UT
    Jan. 23, 2011 5:47 p.m.

    Oh, but I LOVED Davis' work in "Earth Girls are Easy". Such an empowering film for young girls.

  • Travis Burnswell Logan, UT
    Jan. 23, 2011 5:46 p.m.

    "If we can tell our children that they like to see more women in films, then I will have more work when those children start going to the box office." Said Davis.

    "And if girls become more like men, they can get jobs like men do. Then when they are successful and ready to attract a mate, they can afford to have the skin on their face pulled back tighter against their skull. Like I have." Said Seibel.

    Feminists always pretend to care about turning young girls into successful women, when really they are just as vain/shallow as the men they profess to hate. This is a job security issue for actresses with little talent who are waning in the beauty department.

  • Crewsayder Ottawa, Ontario
    Jan. 23, 2011 5:37 p.m.

    Gloria Stienem is one of the last people on earth I would want my daughters taking advice from.

    If their slogan is true, we would still be living like Adam and Eve did after they were cast out. In a way, they are calling women too weak-minded to figure out what to do with their lives on their own.

    The dirty secret is that the majority of women they've conned into making a career their top priority regret the decision and wish they could have just been a wife and mother.

  • MJF Somewhere in Time, UT
    Jan. 23, 2011 5:07 p.m.

    If Gloria Steinem weren't involved, it might have some credibility in my mind. However, this is just another pointless feminist attempt to skew opinion.

  • Not So Fast Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 23, 2011 12:35 p.m.

    I see a lot of excuses to sexualize and marginalize women here in the comments. It is only half our population, why worry?

  • Timothy Benton City, WA
    Jan. 23, 2011 10:06 a.m.

    Honestly,this article is just another slanted article that implies men are out to keep women in their imagined place..I am quite liberal on my views of gender equality,so please,do not start here with rants that I hate women..I can think of a great deal of films where women are the main characters and the films revolve around them,when I get back from church I will write a list if anyone wishes..,I do agree that it is a male dominated world;God made it that way for some reason,and hopefully one day I will discover why..I just do not like it when men are collectively cast as villians..I understand that we have many shortcomings(mixed in with redeeming qualities)as my women friends point out,and as a married male I can attest my wife is the real boss, as is the case in so many other marriages,Mormon or otherwise...

  • jnc51247 SLC, UT
    Jan. 23, 2011 9:11 a.m.

    Although our concept of women should be a positive one and certainly broader than the barbie image, my first thought here was: Why are we assuming that the entertainment industry is our mighty teacher here. We are teaching our children that "it's only a movie" aren't we? It's a story - it's 'make believe'. [Disclaimer, I hope I didn't ruin it for anyone.] These women are assuming that our only window to the world is through the media - They should be pushing less media and more outdoor recreation and real life. 'Life by Proxy' needs to stop and these issues would be settled.

  • chaliceman Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 23, 2011 7:04 a.m.

    Men and women are equal in rights and our equality stops there. We are different. Women are capable of doing most anything a man can do except provide seed for a new generation and men can do most things women can do except create new life in their bellies. But each gender is better suited for some things than other things. The point that is always overlooked is that when men and women can come together with respect for each other's differences and an ability to work together in harmony, it unleashes our fullest human potential. Separately or at odds with each other we are diminished as a race.
    This is not a question of man power or woman power, in fact it is not about power at all. What it is about is honoring and respecting our differences and our right to power and being able to see the highest qualities in each other.

  • kangaroomomm Havelock, NC
    Jan. 23, 2011 6:42 a.m.

    I agree with the quote "We are all consumers and the whole issue is about money. We as consumers can change that." This article does not seem to be getting the media to change (afterall they are just producing what we tell them to). The consumers obviously want a 3 men to 1 woman ratio. Davis understands this and is going to try to convince the youngest group of consumers, elementary and middle school children, to change what they want.