BYU basketball: Cougars move up to No. 9; ready to host TCU

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  • It's Been Fun South Jordan, Utah
    Jan. 19, 2011 10:09 a.m.

    I don't understand you Utes. The Utes won the football game last year against the Cougars, and had bragging rights. This year in basketball, us Cougars won the basketball game, and get our bragging rights. The Utes are just upset because of the way their program has been playing lately. EVERY team has their ups and downs. This just isn't your year, Utah. Just like it wasn't BYU football's year, but their up-and-coming. I'm happy that BYU is putting Utah back on the map of sports. Good on you, Cougars. Keep it up, and ignore all the haters. And Utah? Let us have some fun now, huh? Thanks!

  • TrueBlue Orem, UT
    Jan. 18, 2011 5:40 p.m.


    Utah State is a big game, once a year when BYU plays the Aggies in basketball. Not at all in football.

    Since the Aggies play in a diffferent conference and nothing they do affects BYU, other than a slight bump or dip in SOS depending on how the Aggies finish, Utah State is little more than a curiousity for most BYU fans.

    We check the standings to see how they're doing just like we check on Saint Mary's and other teams BYU has played.

    Having grown up in Brigham City, I probably follow the Aggies a little more than most BYU fans, that is, about as closely as I follow Weber State when the Wildcats are having a good year, otherwise, not much at all.

    I'll occassionally see a BYU t-shirt poking fun at Utah. I've never seen one poking fun at Utah State.

  • Vince the boonies, mexico
    Jan. 18, 2011 4:46 p.m.

    Jimmer-BYU, Jimmer-BYU, Jimmer-BYU get the message? Mormons and the media do!

  • HawaiianAggie Manti, Utah
    Jan. 18, 2011 4:44 p.m.

    Hmm...BYU has a great program. I've been a fan most of my life. However, it is unrealistic to not consider Utah State basketball a rival. Stew Morrill has a class-act program up there. Yeah, some Aggies need to stop being ninnies, but many BYU fans need to stop being snobs. Just play ball and have fun. Go Aggies!

  • eceryda Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 18, 2011 4:36 p.m.

    Does Chris B actually believe the Yewt that he types

  • Duckhunter American Fork, UT
    Jan. 18, 2011 4:28 p.m.

    @true blue

    What you say is true. I was born in Logan while my father attended utah state. We then moved to Provo while he got his MBA at BYU. We then left the state for a decade and didn't return until I was a teenager.

    During that time I was always a BYU fan and although I was born in Logan, and my Dad graduated from utah state, I never gave them a second thought. I didn't think of them as a rival to BYU and still barely do. I simply never care about them at all. They were at best an afterthought other than when they were BYU's next game. Afther the game I thought of them no more until the next one rolled around.

    But for all of that indifference the university of utah meant even less to me. At least I had heard of utah state. Growing up in California I'd never even heard of the university of utah and to this day I still care very little about them.

    I do think a large segment of their fans are classless though and that motivates me to irritate them.

  • Anonymous Infinity American Fork, UT
    Jan. 18, 2011 4:22 p.m.

    BYU is doing well so far, but if we are all objective about it, they have done nothing yet, as in they haven't played any team that has a shot at doing something when they go to the Big Dance in March. Come on....think about it. Jimmer is having a great individual year, and Emery is doing well in his own way; but let's hold down the euphoria a tad folks. Everyone knows I am a died in the wool Cougar fan; but let's not go crazy here. San Diego State and New Mexico are two good clubs for the MWC that the Cougars have yet to play. And we all know how tough it is to win on the left coast and also in the Pit. Let's keep our heads straight and see what happens. As we view games of teams east of the rockies, it is evident that they are playing a much superior brand of BB than the MWC by far.

    Go Courgars tonight and rip the Horned Frogs, er Horny Toads as I knew the creature when I was growing up in California.

  • ute-chute Beverly Hills, CA
    Jan. 18, 2011 4:12 p.m.

    alternate | 3:42 p.m. Jan. 18, 2011
    Salt Lake City, UT
    I guess some psych person can explain this better, but when a person becomes so disappointed in something near and dear to them, that they lash out against what they think is the cause of that disappointment and/or what represents success in the area where they have failed. Unfortunately I think we are seeing a lot of that here.



  • Pavalova Surfers Paradise, AU
    Jan. 18, 2011 4:05 p.m.

    What's worse, one-and-done, or in the case of the U, none-n-done?

    It's pretty hard to fathom the hatred coming from the hill given how bad their program is these days. Why don't you put a strong program on the court and let the games do the talking...then the rivalry has some merit. Till then, it's just "scoreboard" each time we meet. Best of luck anyway.

  • TrueBlue Orem, UT
    Jan. 18, 2011 4:02 p.m.


    Some BYU fans do exhibit some hubris toward Utah State, but the vast majority of BYU fans, especially those from out of state, pay almost no attention to the Aggies except when they're the next opponent on the schedule.

    My family attended the BYU-Utah State game in Logan this past season, and my kids were amazed at all of the anti-BYU t-shirts worn by Aggie fans. It seemed there were far more anti-BYU shirts than there were pro-Utah State shirts.

    Having grown up out-of-state, my kids were somewhat surprised to discover that Aggie fans considered BYU a huge rival. As they were discussing this, Aggie fans sitting around us seemed shocked that BYU fans attending a BYU-Utah State game didn't consider the Aggies a BYU rival.

    At least that game will make next season's meeting a little more interesting for BYU fans.

  • alternate Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 18, 2011 3:42 p.m.

    I guess some psych person can explain this better, but when a person becomes so disappointed in something near and dear to them, that they lash out against what they think is the cause of that disappointment and/or what represents success in the area where they have failed. Unfortunately I think we are seeing a lot of that here.

  • Striker Omaha, NE
    Jan. 18, 2011 3:04 p.m.

    Aggienation, everyone knows, historically, the best team in the state in bball is Utah and the best in football is BYU. The reason most fans don't care about USU is because they are out there somewhere, and too far from people in the region to follow. If USU fans treated BYU fans and the school far better, and weren't so full of hate, you might get a better response out of BYU fans. I don't know a single person who left USU not thinking, "man, they sure hate BYU up here." You live hate, and hate gets returned to you.

    As fresnogirl said, this isn't a WAC article. Also, if you look at comments from USU articles, you're lucky to find more than 20 on a given article. At any given time, you can usually find 50 plus comments on several articles from BYU and Utah. You want Aggie news, go read the Logan paper. Salt Lake based papers don't need to focus on teams who live so far away, especially when their sports teams are not in the same conference as local teams.

  • fresnogirl Fresno, CA
    Jan. 18, 2011 12:32 p.m.

    The Aggies are working on their 4th WAC championship. They are a very good team. Unfortunately, they have to share the same media outlets as two other schools and tend to get treated like a red-headed step-child. But that does not diminish their achievements.

    But, let me remind the Aggie fans beating their chests on this article that this is not an article about the WAC. Your team is not mentioned for that reason.

  • Eddie Syracuse, UT
    Jan. 18, 2011 12:20 p.m.

    Don't mind the comments from AggieNation and other Aggie fans. They just want to chime in on the news from real schools. They get tired up there in Cache Valley of reading all the stories about the other teams in the state and not anything about them.

    Yes Aggies, we know that you are still up there in the cold, dark corner of the state. We know you are outstanding in your field....or outstanding in someones field. Scrape the manure off your boots, pull up a chair and watch a real team play.

  • LonestarRunner Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 18, 2011 11:50 a.m.


    What does BYU playing in the ESA have to do with Utah playing in the championship game?

    The ESA is as neutral a site as there is for Utah college basketball teams. When BYU played Utah State in the ESA, the Aggies made up half the crowd. If that's not a neutral site, what would you consider neutral?

  • AggieNation Saint George, Utah
    Jan. 18, 2011 11:04 a.m.


    It'll never cease to amaze me the hubris that some BYU fans hold over Utah State. Any everybody knows that BYU thinks it owns the E.S. Arena, which is hardly a neutral site.

    As I recall, the University of Utah is the only university in the state to make it to the championship game. They at least have some laurels to boast about.

  • Truth Machine Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 18, 2011 10:30 a.m.

    Chris B and hedgehog

    The Utes are working on giving new meaning to the term "one and done"...

    as in, one-and-done,

    for the last six years,

    and counting!

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    Jan. 18, 2011 10:12 a.m.

    Chrisb. Your memory is extremely short. Let me change the shoe to the other foot. C'mon, yewts. If you are at all serious(about football), then you know this yewt ranking is out of line. You don't have the personnel, or the speed, to maintain this ranking. You can go ahead and diss BYU all you want, but it only bears out your ignorance of real football. How can anyone take any of you seriously when you continue to drink the red kool-aid. Do you really expect to make the BCS, much less the NC game. Fast Forward a few weeks. Bubble burst against the three "good teams" you played and you barely beat the worst BYU team in the last 5 years. If BYU BB team is exposed this year and falters later on(they won't), it will be to the same tune the Utes were dancing to during the football season. Ouch!

  • JustintimeY Boise, Id
    Jan. 18, 2011 10:07 a.m.

    USU, and BYU both have good programs, but to say that USU has the best program in the state? "DixieAggie, the Utes will never cheer for the Aggies. Since Stew has been in Logan, USU has had the best program in the state" BYU beat USU on a neutral floor two years ago and they have both split there games for the last two years on the road. USU has not won an NCAA tournament game even longer than BYU. I thank Stew is a great coach but to say that the USU program is better than the Dave Rose program I would disagree. Recent facts would also tend to disagree. Current ranking and head to head wins seem to say otherwise. I will give stew credit by getting Ty Wesley from BYU back yard was a great pick up. Would love to see what Jimmer, Fredette, Davies, Hartsock and TY Wesley could all do on the same team.

  • fresnogirl Fresno, CA
    Jan. 18, 2011 10:04 a.m.

    Good luck Cougars! Continue to practice well and play as a team. And Congrats on all the great games so far.

    Goooo Cougars!

  • Veritas Aequitas Fruit Heights, UT
    Jan. 18, 2011 10:01 a.m.


    You just seem to be an unhappy person.

    One of my favorite players to ever watch was Andre Miller. He was a class act, and loved to play basketball. I think I enjoyed watching him rebound more than any other player. And Majerus had special teams those years.

    Jimmer is the same way. Why not sit back and enjoy watching a local player do well, instead of trying to grab highlights on sportscenter.

    And BYU's team is magical to watch when they are hitting on all cylinders.

    BYU has been working on getting out of the MWC for years. Rose had his dream-job shot at Houston, and gladly turned it down to stay at BYU, knowing their intentions.

    Why feel the need to turn your negativity towards his/their success? He has a top twenty program in the country, and courtside seats to watch some great games.

    He is a professional at what he does, and does it willingly, for a paycheck.

    Nobody is "reigning" on "his" parade. To think anything else would be questioning his ability to be part of a program, and he is too much of a class act.

  • rogerdpack Orem, UT
    Jan. 18, 2011 9:50 a.m.

    Please don't lose to TCU. Please?

  • jmchess1 Kemah, TX
    Jan. 18, 2011 9:48 a.m.

    BYU is on a roll right now, but its way too early to talk about tournament seedings and rankings. There's a lot of games yet to be played and many are away games at tough venues - NM and SD just to name a few. Let's continue this discussion at the end of February or early March. Then we'll have a more accurate fell on how good BYU BB really is. I'm hoping BYU will be playing even better then as they are now. BYU's inside offense and defense still needs improvement as does their turn overs - though as of late the turn overs have dropped considerably.

  • Cougarista Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 18, 2011 9:40 a.m.

    Go Cougars. Any team can be upset as was Duke this week where the better teams lost Upsets are big news while bad teams losing are not. Some teams lose 7 in a row and none of them are upsets because the 0-7 team is actually a door mat. Remind you of any teams on the SLC east bench?

  • DixieAggie Saint George, Utah
    Jan. 18, 2011 9:15 a.m.


    You've got a point. However, when it comes to basketball, I cheer for any team from Utah, in this case I obviously cheer for Utah State. I personally would never attend BYU by choice, but they have a great in-state ball team and that's something to be proud of going into the tournament. And you're right, some BYU fans tend to find it difficult to eat humble pie.

    Go Aggies!

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    Jan. 18, 2011 9:09 a.m.

    There is no risk of a letdown for the TCU game.

    I'm most concerned about C. Collinsworth's season ending injury and what that does to our ability up front. We seem to struggle to match up against teams with a strong front line (USF, Buffalo, UCLA). We really need three solid players at the 4 and 5 spot, especially with Davies tendency to get into foul trouble.

    If Hartsock, C. Collinsworth and Davies are all healthy; there is no way we lose to UCLA. SDSU is a team with a solid front line. We'll see how we match up next week.

    It's time for Anderson to step up and be a solid contibutor for 20 minutes per game, especially on defense. It's time for Davies to eliminate the "silly" fouls. We need his offensive fire power on the floor for at least 30 minutes a game.

    Go Cougs!

  • TheHailstorm South Weber, UT
    Jan. 18, 2011 9:02 a.m.

    I have enjoyed your season this year and congratulate your team and national exposure. Better enjoy it though as next year you'll be playing in the packed gymnasiums of 6-8,000. Teams like the Gauchos, Anteaters,pilots and,The Banana Slugs will certainly move you out of the limelight and into the lemon light.
    I feel bad for Dave Rose, just when things were going so good for him Holmoe goes and reigns( not a misspelling ) on his parade.

  • SeattleUhasabballteam? Seattle, Wa
    Jan. 18, 2011 2:05 a.m.

    @Sammy G:

    The game with SDSU on Jan 26th is on CBSC.

    The game with SDSU on Feb 26th is on CBS.

  • Serenity Now American Fork, UT
    Jan. 17, 2011 11:53 p.m.

    Last high seed from Utah to lose in first round of NCAA tourney? It was the mighty utes in 2009, a number 5 seed losing to a number 12, Arizona. Hmmm. Arizona sounds familiar.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Jan. 17, 2011 10:38 p.m.

    Chris B says BYU has no inside game. Perhaps he didn't watch Brandon Davies score in double figures inside while Utees big men Foster and Washburn got 6 between them. So much for BYU not having production from a big man and an inside game. Congrats Cougs!

  • PJ Logan, UT
    Jan. 17, 2011 9:13 p.m.

    DixieAggie, the Utes will never cheer for the Aggies. Since Stew has been in Logan, USU has had the best program in the state. Utah is a distant third. Do you think they like that? As for BYU, can't stand them but I think they are a legit top-10 team and can't wait to see them take on SDSU, if I can see it anywhere. Jimmer is (unfortunately) the best player is the country. See BYU fans, I gave credit to your team and player(s), try it sometime.

  • I Bleed Blue Las Vegas, NV
    Jan. 17, 2011 8:41 p.m.

    Hey Chris B.

    Why not ask Boylan and your boys if BYU should not be ranked where they are? They have had some time off because the nets are still too hot for practice from all the threes BYU rained down on the U the other night.

  • BluCoug Provo, UT
    Jan. 17, 2011 7:52 p.m.

    @ Chris B

    Just like many of your posts.

  • JDL Magna, UT
    Jan. 17, 2011 7:42 p.m.

    Actually CB, high expectations are the reason BYU is where they are now. I have High expectations of our Cougar Basketball program and for the past several years those high expectations have been met and I see them continuing for several more years.

    High expectations helped Utah to the BCS bowl games Utes hang there hats on.

    High expectations is always a prerequisite for success.

    Congrats to BYU for winning and earning this honor from coaches and sports writers.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 17, 2011 6:09 p.m.

    C'mon, cewgs. If you are at all serious, then you know this ranking is out of line. You don't have the big men inside, or the speed, to maintain this ranking. You can go ahead and diss me all you want, but it only bears out your ignorance of real basketball. How can anyone take any of you seriously when you continue to drink the kool-aid. Do you really expect to make the round of 16, much less the elite 8, in the NCAAs?

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Jan. 17, 2011 5:23 p.m.

    @Veritas... you da man!

    This team is hitting on all cylinders and the ratings improve each week. SDSU game will be a great test.

    Expect the trolls to hit it hard as they are besides themselves since they have NOTHING to look forward to except BYU losing.

    Another great basketball season for BYU!

    Go Cougars!

    By the way will the SDSU / BYU game be on another channel besides the Mtn.?

  • DixieAggie Saint George, Utah
    Jan. 17, 2011 5:20 p.m.


    Jimmer is good. Cut the Utes some slack. They root for their team.


    Having a bad season? You can always root for Utah State if cheering for BYU just isn't palatable for you.

    Go Aggies and Cougars!

  • sports-junkie West Jordan, UT
    Jan. 17, 2011 4:57 p.m.

    Just gotta say, I love that the Cougars are in the TOP TEN!!!

    Keep it up, boys! You can do it!

    Go Cougs!!! Its JIMMER-TIME!!!

  • Bottom Line Draper, UT
    Jan. 17, 2011 4:56 p.m.

    hedgie and chris b,

    I think you two girls need to carefully consider the words choke and one and done. I looked up choke / overrated and found the 2010 utes football team. As far as one and done goes I guess you have to get a one first.

  • bluecoug89 Highland, UT
    Jan. 17, 2011 4:54 p.m.

    Congrats Cougs!!! You guys are doing awesome. Keep up the good work!

  • NT Springville, UT
    Jan. 17, 2011 4:36 p.m.

    @Hedgie/@Chris B.

    I transferred away from the U after not being able to figure out why there were so many kids like yourselves who would spent more time and energy rooting against ANOTHER school than they would for their OWN.

    I find it funny when kids like yourselves get a knot in your undies when a Cougar fan cheers for the U to win (when not competing against the Cougs, of course).

    Good day, kids!

  • cougar76 Provo, UT
    Jan. 17, 2011 4:06 p.m.

    The Cougars will not be one and done this year. With a high enough seed they will play one of the cupcakes that made the tournament instead of the newts. For those teams, it will be one-and-done. But, even that is better than 0-for-none.

  • cougar76 Provo, UT
    Jan. 17, 2011 4:03 p.m.

    Congratulations to the Cougars, #9 in both polls, but the RPI dropped from #2 to #4 after playing a bad newt team. Playing conference games against the good MWC teams before we have to play the newts again should improve our ranking and get the RPI back up. Go Cougars.

  • Cougarista Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 17, 2011 3:58 p.m.

    Well deserved recognition for the Cougars. Some ute trolls just can't get over the drubbing they took at the Huntsman. After a 7 game losing streak you'd think they are accustomed to another loss.

  • ute-chute Beverly Hills, CA
    Jan. 17, 2011 3:52 p.m.


    It's just nice to see that the kids care so much about BYU.

    Jimmer's MWC POW again?

  • sports-junkie West Jordan, UT
    Jan. 17, 2011 3:47 p.m.

    C'mon guys, the utes arent THAT bad, are they?

    When they played BYU they had three of their star players out, right? right? no?

    Well, maybe they just had an off night, because everyone knows the utes are the best bball team in the state (including the Jazz)... right?

    Well, maybe they are having a rough year because they want to gift wrap goodbye presents to all the MWC schools before they move into the pac12. Thats why they swept their non-conference games... right?

    I just dont know why everyone is so down the on the utes right now. They could flip the switch if they wanted too. Thats how it works when you're a pac12 school, they wont even have to try anymore.

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    Jan. 17, 2011 3:09 p.m.

    @Veritas Aequitas:

    I'm pretty sure your comment flew right over the head of Chris B - she probably is a blonde.

    @hedgehog: seems to me the last "choke job" took place in the Vegas Bowl.

  • MichiganCoog Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 17, 2011 3:01 p.m.

    Hey Hedgie and Chris B.,

    I hear that your yoots have an article under the "Utes" column, and heard that they finally beat someone, a pathetic Wyoming team...or do you even care? Probably not, since both of are simply jealous BYU haters...nothing worth cheering for on the hill, but women's usual. It must stink to be a Ute-fan, nothing worth cheering for...can't wait for Football season to start, to see the continuing fade of the Ute-gridiron into oblivion...

  • fresnogirl Fresno, CA
    Jan. 17, 2011 2:39 p.m.

    Good job bball team. Congratulations and good luck this week!

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    Jan. 17, 2011 2:34 p.m.

    Once again, I see the annual "choke job" at home coming.

    The TDS will win enough games to keep them in the top 20 but a "one and done" in the NCAA tournement is to be expected.

    Jan. 17, 2011 2:30 p.m.

    BYU was ranked #2 for a week in 1988, when Mike Smith and Marty Haws played. They lost to UAB, and that started a slide. They were a #4 seed that year. Won in the first round against the #13 seed, and lost to #5 seed Louisville and coach Denny Crum in the second round, who lost in the next round to Oklahoma, who lost to former Jazz man Danny Manning and the Kansas Jayhawks in the National Championship

  • Veritas Aequitas Fruit Heights, UT
    Jan. 17, 2011 2:15 p.m.

    Chris B | 11:56 a.m. Jan. 17, 2011
    Salt Lake City, UT
    If this keeps up byu will be one of the highest seeds ever to have a one and done

    good luck!
    It would be funny to watch them climb to #5 in the AP, and then drop completely out by the end of the season... eh, Chris?

  • DEW Cougars Sandy, UT
    Jan. 17, 2011 1:55 p.m.

    again, no need to read or post to what is that person name or that person exist.

    I rather see anyone above BYU have a big TARGET on their back than BYU Cougars. SDSU and ohio state have their big targets on them now.

    Polls means nothing at this time until the final.

  • utahcountyute Cedar Hills, UT
    Jan. 17, 2011 1:45 p.m.


    New Mexico at #10 and BYU at #13 last year has to be the highest rated contest at the Marriot Center.

  • Spitvalve Denton, TX
    Jan. 17, 2011 1:37 p.m.

    What's the highest any BYU basketball team has been ranked? This one must be pretty close.

  • donburi Oceanside, CA
    Jan. 17, 2011 1:31 p.m.

    "The Cougars (17-1) vaulted from No. 11 to No. 9 in the Associated Press poll and from No. 10 to No. 9 in the ESPN/USA Today coaches poll."

    I wouldn't say "vaulted" for just moving up one or two positions, unless the teams previously ahead had not lost. But hey, whatever floats the article writer's boat.

    Good for the Cougs. SDSU is considered a slow team, so maybe BYU will have a chance to win.

  • utahcountyute Cedar Hills, UT
    Jan. 17, 2011 1:30 p.m.


    Highly doubt it.

  • UC UTE Lehi, UT
    Jan. 17, 2011 1:24 p.m.

    Congrats BYU. I hope for the best when you play SDSU.
    This team reminds me of the Golden days of BYU basketball.

  • Y4LYFE Lubbock, TX
    Jan. 17, 2011 1:21 p.m.

    Kristy, B. Who has to lose for utah to go to the NIT?

    BYU owes utah a thanks, for their pourous Jimmered defense

  • Idaho guy Meridian, ID
    Jan. 17, 2011 1:12 p.m.

    Go Cougars! Can't wait to see them beat up on SDSU come the 26th! Will be great to have 2 top 10 teams square off, and great boost to BYU when they win!

  • cynic Appleton, WI
    Jan. 17, 2011 12:51 p.m.

    Yes, BYU and SDSU do play in Provo next week, Jan 26. Hopefully, both will take care of business this week and still be in the top 10 when they meet. Does anyone know if two Top-10 teams have ever met in Provo before?

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    Jan. 17, 2011 12:41 p.m.

    I believe that Chris B holds the record for typing the words "one and done" the most times on internet comment boards. It is still much better than the "none and already done" that would fit better farther up North. Given her track record on picking the outcomes of BYU athletic events. We can just about be sure it won't be just one.
    Don't know if you were watching this weekend chrisb but your team won a game.

  • XCDOC Lemoore, CA
    Jan. 17, 2011 12:36 p.m.

    I think BYU vs SDSU meet on Jan 26 at the Marriott Center and then Feb at SDSU.

  • Hawkeye79 Iowa City, IA
    Jan. 17, 2011 11:57 a.m.

    Rise and shout!

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 17, 2011 11:56 a.m.

    If this keeps up byu will be one of the highest seeds ever to have a one and done

    good luck!

  • PerfectCougar Payson, UTAH
    Jan. 17, 2011 11:34 a.m.

    It is great to see BYU this high in the AP, where the east coast bias usually keeps teams from the west down a few notches from their actual performance. This is a fair ranking for BYU based on performance. They will have to sustain the guard play and hope to cover the hole created by Chris Collinsworth's injury to be worthy of anything higher. This team lacks balance, but its strengths are tremendous.