Brad Rock: Now isn't the right time to talk about firing Jim Boylen

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  • concerned ute Provo, UT
    Jan. 14, 2011 11:33 p.m.

    Love Boylen! Please keep him!

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    Jan. 13, 2011 7:35 p.m.

    So does Rock's call for compassion mean that Rock On will refrain from cheap shots directed at Boylen and the Utes for the rest of the season?

    ..... nahhhhh.... didn't thinks so.

  • Bottom Line Draper, UT
    Jan. 13, 2011 5:56 p.m.

    re Big_Ben
    Are you being serious when you identified things Boylen has done that Rose hasn't. I guess the list you came up with would end at 2. On the other hand, if you named things Rose had done that Boylen hadn't you could talk for almost an infinite period of time. The records are not even close over the same period of time. Boylen has one blip with a flatline chart the rest of the time.

    With that said, Dear Mr Boylen best wishes to you and your family during this very difficult time. I personally see you as a man of character with good intentions.

  • bigutefan Las Vegas, NV
    Jan. 13, 2011 5:43 p.m.

    Nice touchy feely good story from Rock. I agree, hard to shoot a guy down when things are going bad at home, but this should have been done last year, it should have been done after losing to Oral Roberts, it should have been done a long time ago. Despite players coming and going, the same issues exist year end and out. Boylen's first year the Utes lost like 9 games on a last second possesion because he could not design a play to call. He let Kepkay take the fall for one of the games and he nearly went AWOL until the next season. Player development is not happening. Foster and Washburn are not any better this year then they were last year. Same goes for Drca and Tillie the previous year. The team is full of some pretty solid players right now with a huge upside, I'll give him that, but he has not a clue how to put a program together. His sideline antics alone are reason to dismiss, it is just down right embarassing, spend a game watching the crowd seating behind the Ute bench, they are stunned at the show being put on.

  • BigCougFan Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 13, 2011 4:58 p.m.

    I tend to agree that Boylen hasn't worked out well for the Utes. However now that they are in the PAC-12 recruiting great players won't be a problem.. everything I've heard from the yewts is that talent will flock to them now that they are in the big leagues!

    yeah right!

  • So. Cal Reader Escondido, CA
    Jan. 13, 2011 3:54 p.m.

    As a Cougs Fan, I think Boylen is the best coach Utah's ever had!! As a fan, I find it very difficult to figure out what Hill sees with this guy. What has this guy done to the Utah Basketball Program since he arrived? Send him back to Michigan State!!

  • Richard Saunders Provo, UT
    Jan. 13, 2011 1:37 p.m.

    "I have written fire-the-coach columns over the years... Ron McBride (Utah football), Gary Crowton (BYU football) and Brent Guy (USU football) were coaches I felt obligated to address in some form, and eventually each was fired."

    It sounds like you're trying to take credit for their firings. Apparently if the family is healthy, you feel no remorse about people losing their jobs

    "Now isn't the right time to talk about firing Jim Boylen"

    I hope you don't choose your titles because this one makes no sense. Suppose I set up a stand in downtown Salt Lake passing out hundreds of flyers that say, "Please don't talk about my son's bed wetting, its a private matter." Does that help or hurt my cause?

  • Ted H. Midvale, UT
    Jan. 13, 2011 1:35 p.m.

    Don't forget that boylen also accomplished other things Rose has not yet,

    losing to DII schools

  • Big_Ben Centerville, UT
    Jan. 13, 2011 12:44 p.m.

    I am obviously not saying that Boylen is a better coach than Rose. But Boylen has accomplished two things that Rose has not:

    Won the MWC tournament
    Earned a 5 seed in the NCAA tournament ( I know, I know Utah was upset in the opening round, I realize that. Im just stating a fact.)

    Boylen has shown that when he can keep a team together, he can have some success. If this team can stay together for next year, they should be better. Probably in the 18 win range. They have talent. This year's team was literally just thrown together.

    In this offseason, if everyone sticks around, we should be a solid team next year. But thats the problem. Players seem to exit in large numbers after every year.

    Boylen needs to bring in an assistant who can run an offense, bring in a rebounder, and needs more shooters.

    We don't have the money to fire him unfortunately, so we will just have to ride this one out.

  • DodgerDoug Salem, UT
    Jan. 13, 2011 12:41 p.m.

    Good luck to Coach Boylan and his family issues. As a BYU fan I want to pound your team on the court but on a personal basis I hope and pray all is well with your family.

  • vancougar Vancouver, WA
    Jan. 13, 2011 12:30 p.m.

    Wow, every sports fan has been waiting with baited breath to finally know what Brad Rock has to say about whether Boylen should be fired now, fired later, or just retained. After all, sportswriters like Brad get to make this call. He tells us how he made the call in the past with real results but how at times he has decided to withhold his calls for termination based on other considerations. At this point, there is a small problem of a family illness in the Boylen family so now is not a good time for the firing. Brad has a heart which is nice to know. Is there some equivalent person in Brad's profession that can just write an article and make things like this all happen? Very, very interesting.

  • Veritas Aequitas Fruit Heights, UT
    Jan. 13, 2011 9:48 a.m.

    Boylen's on-the-court peoblems did not start during the past few weeks.

    Utah needs to do what is best for the U, and if that means letting Boylen go, and letting him focus on his family, while someone else focuses on trying to salvage the year, I see no problem with that.

    Maybe, appoint an interim HC, and give Boylen a leave of absense for the rest of the year is the answer, if the U likes what he has been doing.

    Either way, the program needs help.

  • The Rocker Bountiful, UT
    Jan. 13, 2011 9:29 a.m.

    I still dont get just what experience Boylen had that got him the job in the first place.
    And to get all that pay for it.
    The attendance at games has been horrible. The recruiting has been horrible.
    Funny man Rick Majerus was gross,ecentric,offensive,and unpredictable but he was entertaining and could recruit.
    His players liked and respected him as well as us fans. There will never be another Rick Majerus and it is unfair to compare anyone to him.
    But Boylen cant win games or nothing seems to be going right for this team with Boylen.
    It has been all downhill and frustrating. A change is needed. But a really smart change. Someone with experience and who can recruit. Someone who can earn respect and win back old fans and bring in new fans. We need to bring the fun back!

  • duck Saint George, UT
    Jan. 13, 2011 9:12 a.m.

    You're right, his family health issues supercede all else for now. However, it's clear the coach is not the one to create teamwork between players and support from fans. No, he should not be fired now, but at the end of the season, all the cards should be put on the table. I for one, think Utah can do better.

  • Observation-ist Ogden, UT
    Jan. 13, 2011 9:04 a.m.

    Compassion in the business world is rarified air and completely appropriate in Coach Boylen's case. Letting him go now will not improve the season, although perhaps,if he's willing, giving him paid leave would be beneficial.

    God bless, coach Boylen. I hope your family challenges work out for the best.

    a BYU fan.

  • 3grandslams Iowa City, IA
    Jan. 13, 2011 8:45 a.m.

    This is a strange article. It's starts by saying, "I'm not going to pile on." then list all the reasons why he should be fired. Then finishes by saying in essence, "Nope, I'm not going to pile on."

    Do you think Boylen is going to read this (probably not because it's in the Deseret News) and say, "Wow thanks for pointing all that out. I'd hate to see your article if you decided to pile on."

  • Th Tooele, UT
    Jan. 13, 2011 8:05 a.m.

    This is a good article. How much does this family crisis have to do with the Utes lack of preperation?

    Majerus had plenty of issues with his health. I think the big difference is that his coaching staff was rock solid.

    The issue I have with Boylens coaching style is that he thinks he's the program. See last years statements about "his program." Utah has no offensive scheme. To me it reminds me of watching a city league game. They play lackluster defense. Under Majerus, it was not uncommon to hold most teams on our schedule under 60 points a contest. SDSU reminds me a lot of Utah under Majerus.

    I think Utah needs to get back to playing defense and rebounding and they can see some difference in outcome. I just don't think this will happen until Boylen is ultimately let go.

    I hope everything works out for him in his family crisis.

    Go Utes

  • cactusflats American Fork, UT
    Jan. 13, 2011 7:20 a.m.

    Is it possible that Boylen isn't the problem? The Utes haven't been consistently good since Majerus, and by all accounts Rick was a pretty unique guy. We won't see another coach like that here again. I guess when you consider losses to Portland, San Diego, and the Baptists, you have to wonder about preparation., but Giaccaletti wasn't lighting it up either. Not sure the solution, but I'm not sure it's a coaching change. Best of luck to his family.

  • Uteology Fort Worth, Texas
    Jan. 13, 2011 12:46 a.m.

    What worries? Utah will have to buy out his contract for millions. Millions to sit on coach eating potato chips... now that's the worry I want to have.

  • Chris B's momma Idaho Falls, ID
    Jan. 13, 2011 12:03 a.m.

    Please, please do not fire this coach...tee hee...