re: UU32 | 6:02 p.m. Jan. 13, 2011 Optimism? Thats 1 way to put the
mindset of a war kitty fan.Einstein's Definition of Insanity might
be more accurate.
For the record, I've never said Utah would be in the Rose Bowl. The Y on the
other hand actually printed tee shirts called "Quest for Perfection".
It is an every year thing in Provo. Always talking a big game, never coming
through with a BCS season. But I admire your optimism. You believe,
every year, that BYU will go undefeated. Every year they let you down. Every
year you are back on the quest for perfection. That takes staying power. I
admire you for that.
Michigankewg,"Who cares? With a boat load of talent already
here, w/ 3 more years to grow better, with many returning from missions as well,
what is your point?"My point? Doesn't look like going
"indy" has done the tds any favors. almost half of the tds recruits
are 2 star or lower (rivals) and well... because Rivals on tracks the top 50 (
that's FIFTY) classes, BYU doesn't show up.So your answer is
"so what?" because you had a somewhat decent class last year ( still
ranked lower than Utah)? I guess I understand Y you went Indy.In
three years the tds will be pounding their chest about the big comeback wins
Hey Hedgie,Who cares? With a boat load of talent already here, w/ 3
more years to grow better, with many returning from missions as well, what is
your point? BYU is only has 15 or 16 spots available, they are getting what they
need. If you checked the players coming in, they have mostly 3 starred players
coming in, that won't see the field for 2-3 years or more anyway. As
for your Utes, I'd hate to play freshman right out of the gate for good
reasons...see what happened to BYU in the beginning of this season...but once
the season wore on, you saw the result...victories...yes, against inferior
competition, with a 1 point loss to your over-rated UTES, that struggled
mightily against a bunch of freshman starters on offense for BYU. That'll be
Utah's lot next year, w/ NO ONE with any experience...oh, I forgot about Jordan
Wynnie...but he doesn't count either, with the look of fear, and a
dear-in-the-headlights look any time he was pressured...Good luck w/ your Uoots
next year, I figure 5 or 6 wins max...
michigan coogInsecure...yup that is exactly what I see. "barely hanging on to beat a 6-6 cougar squad""A
young and extremely talented BYU team returning next fall w/ skilled players at
every position?"So these two teams you are referencing above
are the same right? Are you trying to make one look bad and the other look
amazing? hmmmLet me just tell you that byu has 11 seniors leaving
not including Chambers of course.Utah has 12 and two more
underclassmen declaring for the NFL. This is normal turn over for a
successful college football program. No worries.
Hey tds trolls,I've got a subject ( something the DN seems to avoid)
How's your 2011 recruiting going?I'd love to hear your thoughts.Yours truely, Hedgehog
You do know that all Utah has to do is finish 1st or 2nd only to USC in their
division to have a shot in the PAC12 Title Game? 1 game and the winner goes to
the Rose Bowl. I remember a few years ago Utah was playing a team and no one
said they has a chance(Alabama remember that one).Anytime you get a 1 game shot
to make magic happen you got to be living right. FYI 9-3 in the Rose Bowl is
much more attainable than the road the Cougs have for a BCS Game let alone a
shot in the BCS Title Game.
utahcountyute,Insecure? What? Insecure about what? A young and
extremely talented BYU team returning next fall w/ skilled players at every
position? Whereas the Utes return Jordan Wynn, with no one to pass or hand-off
the ball to, that has any Division 1 experience???As for basketball,
even w/ Jimmer and Jackson graduating next spring, we have 3 more quality
players to replace them, with all their bigs (Davies, Hartsock, and Collinsworth
and 3 more players @ 6'-10")returning...I think you get the big picture.
Utah however is the one including you and all your MUSS types that
are the ones that are insecure. I for one, am just pointing to facts that lie
ahead...two sporting programs heading in opposite directions: BYU to greater
notoriety and success, Utah to obscurity and rejection by its' fan-base as was
so clearly displayed on Tuesday night with an empty Huntsman Center. Losing
seasons will become a reality/continuation, thru the rest of this year, and for
years to come. GOOD LUCK IN THE PUC12...ya'll gonna need it!
michigancoog and duckyIt amazes me how insecure you both are. How
many kids has Utah put in the NFL early? This is nothing new for the U, we deal
with it every year.How many kids have left early from byu? Not
including Chambers and Unga.Good Luck Sealver!Go Utes!
UgottaloveMaxie | 11:02 p.m. Jan. 12, 2011 SLC, UT I read many
posts and UGottaloveMaxie is a zoob. So Rock of the marne is now un-justfied.
He also loves Max Hall.
hedgehog | 1:02 p.m. Jan. 13, 2011 Ann Arbor, MI You keep JealousU
in check there Hedge. The last thing we need on these message boards are posts
that cite sources.Let's keep everyone that can make an argument, and
back it up, from posting.Glad to see you took on the title of hall
First let me say I think Siliga is making a mistake by not coming back. This is
probably why KWhitt didn't want to comment on it.Second, I don't
think he or Burton's decisions to leave was because of fear of playing in the
PAC12. I do love your assumption though cougar fans. Third as
already pointed out, who in the bleep is Jon Wilner? If you google preseason
college football rankings you get about 1000 different blogs which Wilners is
one of. Who cares!Go Utes.... Utah will make this jump fine. It will
be more difficult for sure, but there will be plenty of benefits from the move.
"College Hotline With Jon Wilner"Jealous U,You
do realize that if you "google" long enough you will find some yahoo
projecting Central Arkansas as a preseason favorite... you do know this
right?How about we leave the "projections" on the shelf
for a few months and at that point let the creditable sources take over.Now go "google" "Jimmer number 1 pick in the NBA
draft"....i'm sure you'll find what you're looking for.
Marked it Down | 12:29 p.m."Better hurry before it's booked
solid because all we've heard from the hill since last summer is the Utes will
be playing in the Rose Bowl." ===I believe it was a MWC
team that won the Rose Bowl this year.
UU32BYU has an infinitely better chance at the 2011 championship
than NC2010 Utah.Have you made your reservations for Pasedena yet?
Better hurry before it's booked solid because all we've heard from
the hill since last summer is the Utes will be playing in the Rose Bowl.
Congrats Jealous U - Put the championship on the books. Print the tee-shirts.
Start celebrating. Make your reservations for the BCS.
erikcwj42"I'd love to know which website has byu ranked
13th"Google: College Hotline With Jon WilnerHe's an
SEC homer, though, so you can dispense with the "he's just a BYU
homer" dismissals.Folks on the hill are always so insanely
jealous of any positive recognition BYU receives.Get over it. Being
in the PAC 12 isn't going to give U a free ticket to national recognition.Finishing unranked in the final AP poll is proof of that.
I'd love to know which website has byu ranked 13th.. espn just came out with
their rankings im sure byu is nowhere near the top 25... zooby's are my favorite
Good luck to Sealver, hope he does well on Sundays. For the Utes,
this will open up some more playing time for Star and Latu. This is one position
that the Utes have the luxury of depth right now.
BluCoug - That is great that BYU is ranked #13 now for next year. I would
recommend printing up some tee-shirts about going undefeated. Maybe call it
Quest for Perfection. Don't worry, if you lose a few games you can always claim
that it didn't mean perfection in football but in the priorities higher than
football.BYU - Everyone's pre-season champion - when it really
UgottaloveMaxie | 11:02 p.m. Jan. 12, 2011 SLC, UT @OnlyInUtah
- I read many posts and Veritas Aequitas is a zoob. So Rock of the marne is
justfied. ===Just curious, what makes one a
"zoob".I read many stories, and make comments on what I
observe. If I think Tommy Connor would make the U a better program, am I a
"zoob"?If I think that Rock, Uteology, UtahCounty Ute,
Dutchman, and Chris B are biased, use insignificant selective facts, am I a
"zoob". If I question the logic they use to come to their assumptions,
am I a "zoob"? If they amuse me and I push their buttons, am I a
"zoob".What makes one a "zoob". Exercising their
right to observe, think, and post those thoughts?And is the best you
have to respond calling third grad names? Have I ever called anyone a name?My comment on Siliga was that this year might be a better year to go
pro, tan next year, based on the reasong that they are considered at least a top
30 team right now. Basing it on reality, no bias.Come on,
YaGottaLoveMaxie, lose the blinders.
I actually feel sorry for the kid. Seems he has issues still with commitment.
I remember the big article about how he debated going to Utah vs BYU and how he
thought and prayed about it. He got a spiritual confirmation he was supposed to
go to the Y and how happy he was to go to BYU. Then less than a week later he
switched to the U and didn't ever explain how his spiritual confirmation had
been switched. Now he has the same advisors telling him to go pro
and step up to the next level while all the pro evaluations are telling him
don't do it, the NFL may go on strike and leave him out of both, and his head
coach won't comment on it.I remember a BYU quarterback that thought
he was pro material who left after his junior year and then never got a sniff
from the NFL.Don't over estimate your value Mr. Siliga. You are
giving up your last year of playing football.
Come on Utes start watching those successful programs like the 7-6 Cougs. I'm
sure everyone is jealous knowing that BYU had to win their bowl game against a
team equivalent to Alta High to not have a losing record.
The pebble whines about Cougar fans posting in utah articles every day while
alternately posting in every single BYU article. LOLAs to the
subject at hand there are a few points here. Yes he is getting out at least in
part to avoid the humiliation of next years terrible pac10 debut. He will also
get his wish about remaining part of the "ute family" as he will
undoubtedly watch every one of their home games standing on the sidelines of res
since it isn't very likely he will even get drafted. He's really in
a no win situation. Stay at utah and get it handed to him all year or declare
for a draft he has no chance of being picked in. All things
considered he probably made the right choice as it is going to be ugly on the
hill next year.
Re: BluCoug - there you go again, talking big in the off-season. No one cares
about preseason.@OnlyInUtah - I read many posts and Veritas Aequitas
is a zoob. So Rock of the marne is justfied.
Careful coogs, we don't want to upset our TUN friends...you see they are a bit
edgy of late, losing in a big way last night on their home floor, barely hanging
on to beat a 6-6 cougar squad, stumbling and bumbling in their last 6 games to a
3-3 record, will simply relegate Utah's move to the PAC10 to the back page of
the local sports pages, w/ the Baggies and WSU Wildcats, as mediocrity sets in
for the long haul. Next years prospects on the Ute gridiron just got
uglier now that their best interior DL & DB are leaving to the NFL (that
would be "Not-For-Long" for both of them). Boy the bad
news is coming out of the woodwork for the red faced boys on the hill. Sad, sad,
days ahead for Ute-ville. Geez boys, start watching more successful sports
programs (i.e. the TDS)...Oh the excitement ahead for Cougar sports just never
@ Rock Of The MarneHERE'S SOME NEWS: For being a 7-6 team BYU got a
vote for the top 25. Early ranking for 2011 season is already out and BYU is
ranked 13th. Not bad for a 7-6 team. Google it and see for yourself.
Re: Rock of the marne... I think you're reading something into Veritas
Aequitas' comments. No where does he mention BYU. Maybe it is you who has the
inferiority complex? Are you concerned that everyone is out to get you? Are you
constantly looking over your shoulder to see who is sneaking up behind you?
This is what happens when you enter the Pac-12 and realize that you won't be the
top dog in the conference more than once every 20 years.It is
curious why two of the top seniors on the Ute team are looking for an excuse to
avoid playing in the Pac-12. Do they realize it will be a mediocre season (at
Veritas Aequitas, as opposed to the not even close to being ranked BYU? For a
team that was barely .500 you guys sure talk a lot of smack; your team got
drilled by the Aggies for Petes sake. Utah's 3 losses (not 6 like BYU) were to
good teams (two of the teams in the top 10). Bye bye Coogs, I really wish you
would all stop commenting on Utah stories but I guess your jealous insecure
nature won't allow it.
Good luck. Here's hoping things work out gor you!
I wish the he were staying, but hope he does well. Good luck Sealver.
Get out of town while the Utes are half-way ranked...