Utah Jazz sing blues in Memphis as Rudy Gay scores 28

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  • Kakashi Tokyo, Japan
    Jan. 9, 2011 9:30 a.m.

    Trade CJ Miles for CDR and trade AK for Tony Allen + Xavier Henry and a pick...CJ Miles is a 5 year mediocrity project...give Hayward 5 years...100% sure he will be better...probably a less injury prone mike miller type...or Hedo but faster and quicker

  • lench Draper, UT
    Jan. 8, 2011 4:46 p.m.

    Iguodala for Kirilenko...makes sense short-term...makes more sense long-term.

  • Jazz-Nation Lehi, UT
    Jan. 8, 2011 2:36 p.m.

    I think I speak for all Jazz fans when I say this. It is not the fact that we are going through a rough stretch right now, because all teams do, but we all see the same thing coming like dejavu, a good season ending in a heart breaking playoff run. We all want a Championship so bad, we know how close this team comes year in and year out. The Jazz have always had a pretty good team and good product, but we always fall short of the big picture. We are so close yet so far away. How long can this window stay open for this franchise? I will be a Jazz fan for life, but I would like to see the Jazz go All IN with Coach Sloan and D-Will while the window is still open. Adding some depth at shooting guard, making some changes in the line up or adjusting players minutes. I believe in the Jazz, I believe we can beat anyone when we are playing well, but I also think some changes need to happen if this team is going to make a real push this year.

  • toddfromsantaana Santa Ana, CA
    Jan. 8, 2011 1:53 p.m.

    So again we hold our breaths while Houston will have guys glide and cherry pick behind the 3 point line and again "we will have to hope and cross our fingers" they do not hit the open shot

  • cdb salt lake, utah
    Jan. 8, 2011 12:47 p.m.

    I am a huge Jerry Sloan fan . But his one flaw is that he is not flexible during a game. He does not ride a hot hand. He does not go with what is working any longer than what is scheduled. But that is JS Basketball. The players don't decide when and how long they play, even if they are hot.I'm not going to take the time to explain Jerry's thoughts about that,most of you know already. Like it or not Jerry won't change. I think fans would like to see more flexibility on his part.

  • toddfromsantaana Santa Ana, CA
    Jan. 8, 2011 12:04 p.m.

    Wrong again!!!! The fact is everyone scoring is up over 10 year ago, 1/2 the league allowed under 100 ppg if not more, no handchecking crackdown etc...We are on here good or bad, but the "sloanaholics- minus Houdini and couple others" cannot see that. This is not a bash Jerry session.

    However, when a player does not attack, go through the motions and have a bad attitude when they go to timeout Deron always looks angry, then yeah he will be called out....

  • toddfromsantaana Santa Ana, CA
    Jan. 8, 2011 11:53 a.m.

    Yeah your right I AM CALLING THE LEADER OF THIS TEAM OUT By the way "what have you done in your career". SLoan is not a god like all of you think but I am not going into an argument again about this. Most never accept the truth or too blind to see it. There are defeciencies that can be corrected with some smart coaching and one time trade to get rid of the leeches that bring this ship down and have for some time

  • wizofwestwood Scottsdale, AZ
    Jan. 8, 2011 11:28 a.m.

    Start Hayward. He's a better 2 than a 3. With his height, you have a 6'8' guard which results in a much taller, better rebounding team and overall defense improves. Hayward can handle the ball ok and shoots better than Raja too.

  • JFFR Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 8, 2011 11:27 a.m.

    @Old Timer- You have a selective memory. Here's where you are right and here's where you are wrong:

    #1- Probably right, but this is because the Jazz run a very complex offense. They usually lead the league in assists. Every year there are several games where the Jazz look pathetic and can't execute. Last night was one of them, I don't understand why Jazz fans still panic. You should be used to them by now.

    #2- Correct, Sloan focuses on the paint. Teams burn us from the 3 point line all the time. Other coaches may guard the 3's better, but Sloan seems to win games. Its a risk he takes, but you win games in the paint. Don't you know this by now?

    #3- Wrong. Bad defense is a recent thing.

    97-98 Opponents scored 94.4 points shot .439
    98-99 86.8 .413
    99-00 92.0 .446

    Unfortunately I couldn't find earlier than 98.

    #4 Flat out wrong. Jazz are usually one of the best in the league.

    #5- Duh! Everyone in the league knows this. But they can't stop them. Thats the beauty of it.

  • Old Timer the boonies, mexico
    Jan. 8, 2011 11:27 a.m.

    Check the records and stats please. They have nothing to do with how many coaches have been hired and fired since! And you are right-he is Jerry Sloan.

  • The Great Houdini Rye, CO
    Jan. 8, 2011 11:20 a.m.

    Another Sloan fan here,if Jerry could lace em up and get out there he`d show these youngins how to play and not pull a Randy Moss and takes plays or half`s off.Play hard you win more,slack off as we tend to do you lose more,it`s not rocket science.I`ve said for years now CJ MIles is lazy and out of shape and maybe rubbing off on the team

  • Jazz-Nation Lehi, UT
    Jan. 8, 2011 11:14 a.m.

    Raja is barely an average defender at this point in his career and he offers no scoring, so why is this guy a starter? If Bell would have gone to LA, he would have been a bench-warmer. AK is not a scoring threat either, I am not sure what is going through the coaches mind right now, but they have to see the same things fans do. We have to guys that can shoot the ball, D-Will and sometimes CJ can light things up, other than those two, we are drowning at the depth at the 2. We cant cry over not matching Wes Mathews offer, or not bringing Korver back, but we can hope the Jazz decide to move forward and pick up someone that can provide a spark to this team. It is not to late. KOC did a good job filling some voids, but now he needs to go back to work. This team needs a higher caliber shooting guard if we want to have any chance this season. Keep working hard, GO JAZZ!

  • JFFR Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 8, 2011 11:09 a.m.

    @todd and nothegame

    I can't believe how foolish Jazz fans are. You are calling out DWill? YOU? What have you ever done in your life? You aren't worthy to pic up his sweat towel (I was gonna say lace his shoes, but that would be a little much)

    Do you remember last year at all? Last year Jazz fans started to suggest that they start Eric Maynor over DWill. Calling out DWill is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. He is going to have bad night and maybe even bad weeks, but he's still one of the best point guards in the game.

    EVERY YEAR THE JAZZ HAVE ROUGH STRETCHES! And it usually happens end of December and beginning of January. Do you remember the Jazz before they picked up Kyle Korver? Do you remember the Jazz before Gaines hit the three pointer? The Jazz are going to pick up steam in February and March, they'll fall apart again in April right before the playoffs. You can just hope the Jazz have a hot streak during the playoffs. But with the Spurs and Lakers being as good as they are, it wont matter.

  • bgl Santa Monica, CA
    Jan. 8, 2011 10:59 a.m.

    Old Timer--you are proof positive that being around a long time doesn't necessarily make one smarter. I've been around the same amount of time and I can top your 1-5 without breaking a sweat.

    #1. Jerry Sloan is in the Hall of Fame
    #2. About a thousand coaches have been hired and fired since Jerry Sloan's tenure at Utah began.
    #3. Jerry Sloan's teams always win.
    #4. Fair weather fans always hide when the Jazz are winning and start creeping out of their little holes when things are going tough (in the Marines they told us that these are the kind of guys that get their fellow Marines killed).
    #5. And this is important--so pay attention. Ahem---He's Jerry Sloan and you ain't.

  • cdb salt lake, utah
    Jan. 8, 2011 10:58 a.m.

    Every year this team goes through times were they look like they can't win and times were they look like they can't loose. And the rest of the time they win 5 out of 8 games. This year is going to be the same. Every year its the same thing. When they can't win for a time, everyone panics and we need to trade everyone. When they can't lose for a time everyone thinks we are going to win a championship if we just had one more player. " It is what it is ". This team is a 50-55 wins a season team. All we can do is hope to make the playoffs and hope thats when they are playing at a level when they can't lose. Why all the fuss!! You guys don't know your team. It would be nice to have that one guy to get us 10 more wins,but he is on another team and they want to keep him. Maybe we could clone him. Or maybe we could develope our own. The talent is there.Its just up to them. Thats the way it is,period.

  • Doctor J Manti, UT
    Jan. 8, 2011 10:56 a.m.

    Last year everyone was complaining about having too many shooting gaurds/wings....Matthews was better than all but maybe 3 players on this entire Jazz roster...Korver was better than cj...Brewer was better than cj (Defense & Dunks)...now in a few weeks/months Harwood will likely be better than cj and he is weak & Skinny(mentally & emotionally more prepared though)...How long is O'Connel going to wait to see if cj develops into an NBA player?

    We have seen enough of this...cj!

  • Old Timer the boonies, mexico
    Jan. 8, 2011 10:06 a.m.

    I am as stated an old timer, retired now for several years and therefore have witnessed this Jazz teams move from N.O. to SLC and all years of play since. There is a couple of things that you young-uns probaly don't realize that I do along with many other old timers. Regarding Jerry Sloan and his great respect here in Utah there are many negatives about his coaching that are a matter of record.
    #1- Jerry Sloan coached teams have always been in the top 25% in the league for turnovers per game.
    #2- Sloan coached teams have always been one of the worst 3 point defenders in the league.
    #3- Sloan coached teams have always been a poor defensive team.
    #4- Sloan coached teams have never been a good rebounding team.
    #5- Sloan coached teams have always been "very" predictable.
    Now these are figures that any of you pro Sloan fans can look up because they are a matter of record year after year. And they were also present during the Stockton-Malone years. And the answer is?

  • utahjazzcrazy Layton, UT
    Jan. 8, 2011 9:39 a.m.

    I have to think this is turning into a chemistry problem.

    Daron's oncourt frustration is palpable and his performance has started to deteriorate because of it. I'm tired of the slowly stomping the ball up the court. It was obvious the Jazz were doing nothing but going through the motions in Memphis evident in the amount of turnovers.

    CJ Miles has been dreadful coming back from the illness. These last two games he's done nothing but take selfish shots or turn the ball over carelessly. I'd imagine he's realized the starters would be better with him in the lineup and he's not playing with passion with the second unit.

    It's time to move AK and his stupid contract. The last few weeks I've seen enough from Hayward to believe we can live without his reckless and erratic play. He's been great but i think moving him would be addition by subtraction.

    Jerry and Kevin need to do something before the wheels come off completely.

  • The Great Houdini Rye, CO
    Jan. 8, 2011 9:30 a.m.

    Maybe we should shake things up a bit.Play well ,as Watson did last night and you earn a start,that`s right, move Williams to the sg,he can`t do any worse than Raja or CJ,and that`ll take the ball out of his ever-dribbling hands ....gotta do somthing

  • Doctor J Manti, UT
    Jan. 8, 2011 9:18 a.m.

    Jazz look better with Watson on the floor......D will is great but he is a mini monster with his attitude...that can be a positive and a minus at times

    No Watson is not an allstar...he is very effective on the floor though.

    Mentally...D Will is still progressing...I hope

  • nothegame Saratoga Springs, UT
    Jan. 8, 2011 8:52 a.m.

    Todd your first point was great. D-Will suck it up and lead this team. I'M now wondering if D-Will is the problem. I wonder if the other players even like that guy. He is so negitive with his actions on the court. Why can't D-Will push the ball like Earl Watson does when he is in there.

  • Doctor J Manti, UT
    Jan. 8, 2011 8:41 a.m.

    I see more of us are finally seeing cj's value to a winning team.

    Last year I could see way back in the fall that Matthews was an NBA regular rotation player.

    To watch cj the last 6 years has been very disheartening...very sad...lots of God given talent and ability...very low level of work ethic and discipline...emotionally and mentally there is very little toughness or strength.



  • cactusflats American Fork, UT
    Jan. 8, 2011 7:28 a.m.

    Panic button -> CLICK HERE

  • Ak Fan Hamburg, GE
    Jan. 8, 2011 3:45 a.m.

    Dwill singlehandedly lost game. And Sloan didn't help much. JAzz doesn't have any offensive rhythm due to Deron's erratic play. Other players didnot involved game running empty back and forward .Just not good basketball.

  • AltaHawkFan Sandy, UT
    Jan. 8, 2011 1:23 a.m.

    Sure glad we signed Bell and kept Miles and Kirilenko at the expense of letting Portland steal Mathews from us. I would hate having Matthews score 36 pts for us tonight instead of Bell's 4 pts and Miles' 0 pts. Way to go O'Conner !

  • B Russ Ephraim, UT
    Jan. 8, 2011 12:07 a.m.

    At this point in his 5 year development period, I hate to say it as one of his strongest supporters, but CJ Miles looks like a total bust. Sorry CJ Miles of Dallas Texas but our boy is not manning up to all of the development periods and excuses of why he should make it on this team let alone in the NBA. Selfishness does not cut it when you are trying to win games.

  • toddfromsantaana Santa Ana, CA
    Jan. 7, 2011 11:32 p.m.

    Not soon enough Duke 5, maybe we need to end the CJ 20 year trial period and get some value and jettison him anywhere out of here

  • duke5 vancouver, wa
    Jan. 7, 2011 10:57 p.m.

    How do we ever expect to have a great team when we have two starters (Bell & AK) who can't score. It doesn't matter if they are great guys or not, we need scoring from every position. WHEN IS THE TRADE DEADLINE?

  • toddfromsantaana Santa Ana, CA
    Jan. 7, 2011 9:45 p.m.

    Tomorrow EXPECT a 3 POINT spectacle by the Houston Rockets, messers Battier, Budinger, Brooks and friends

  • toddfromsantaana Santa Ana, CA
    Jan. 7, 2011 9:42 p.m.

    I do not hear people now calling Kevin a genius for his off season moves. I think 2 things were mistakes, not signing Wes last season and Kyle this off season.

    Watson and Jefferson would have been the smart moves because Boozer had to go.

    If we had that roster, we would be challenging more. The fact is the Jazz play no defense so they have to outscore people and we so not have the weapons especially with Okur out.

    I am beginning to agree Paul is best as 6th man although he will not like it.

    I do not know if CJ was hurt, I am sure Jody will explain in his report.

    If he was not, SLoan sending a message of 9 minutes playing time is not conducive to Jazz success, nor will it make better.

    The Jazz need to go with DWIL and CJ back court, Jefferson, Kirilenko and Okur when healthy. The bench of Fes, Raja, Watson, Ronnie and Paul. Gordon and Elson depending on matchups.

    As Vince Mcmahon says on TV "it is time to shake things up around here"

    If CJ is not going to play then trade him for Mcgee or mobile big

  • B Russ Ephraim, UT
    Jan. 7, 2011 9:41 p.m.

    Well, D Will has not adjusted to playing without the offensive rythum he had with Carlos Boozer. It's time to get off the Booze and on with the Jeff, and the Milsap.

    Hayward deserves more minutes as he is a much better ballhandler, especially in traffic than A K. Hayward can handle and takes care of the basketball. He can hit his shots as good or better than the White Russian lately too. Go with this kid.

    At this point, go with the guys who want to play. I would let Ronnie Price play the two until someone else steps up and consistantly plays better. Lol Jazz and Fans.

  • toddfromsantaana Santa Ana, CA
    Jan. 7, 2011 9:35 p.m.

    I in a sense am glad will miss the game tomorrow night, maybe they will win not paying attention. Similarly to the Jazz efforts tonight.

    Sloan and his stubborness to stick with his same beliefs and biases are killing the Jazz, he is to most of you a hero. To me anything but.

    It is time to call out people, unpopular or not. DWIL is a leader when things go well. The scowl, the look of disbelief and the negative body language and attitude is not a TRUE leader. A leader leads, inspires, encourages, kicks butt when he has to. Not once did I see this tonight.

    Raja Bell kills the Jazz as a non threat at the #2 position where his experience and knowledge would be better served off the bench and to preserve his health.

    Fesenko has the best plus minus tonight and played 10 minutes. Jefferson is afraid to go strong to the basket. I am beginning to think he should lose 10 lbs.

    Watson came to play and usually does as does ROn, Millie does but he is so small.

    Memphis had no resistance to anything offensively,

    we will likely be in 2nd place tomorrow night