Now if we could just get the UK to pay us for the ingenuity they've gathered and
implemented as a result of U.S. medical research, maybe we could start to
compare the U.S. unspecialized care with the U.K. unspecialized care. If you
need highly specialized care, be glad you're in the U.S.
UK Brit... thanks for pipping in because my dad is an American living in the UK,
is a died in the wool Republican, watches Fox News all the time, and yet would
support your statements completely. While UK taxes frustrate him terribly, he
also appreciates the fact that his health care is not an issue for him, and that
it has always been of top quality.
If you voted Republican, You deserve what you are getting, The Party that does
not care about the people. The Party of No when we know YES WE CAN.
As someone who has experience of healthcare in the States and in the UK I will
take the NHS any day of the week. I had no end of problems dealing with
insurance companies when in Utah.All those people bashing the healthcare
in the UK have probably never been there and used it. Again I have used both and
had a faultless experience when I have used the NHS. My son was diagnosed with a
liver condition when he was 6 weeks old which will mean he will probably need a
transplant when he is an adult, can someone tell me what insurance company in
the states would be willing to cover him knowing this?
Repeal! Repeal now! We simply can't afford this monstrosity.
Liberal Ted, I think that is an awesome idea.... being able to opt in or out of
taxes! Lets see, I don't have kids in any state public universities....opting
out on that one. Not old enough for Medicare.....opting out. I am employed and
have been for some time... lets opt out of supporting unemployment. I don't
use BLM land, so I will opt out on that one too. Coast Guard - it is a desert
for crying out loud, don't need them - consider it opted out. Border patrols...
oh common', that is a California, New Mexico, Arizona, and California
problem.... let them pay for it... opted out. There has to be a ton of
programs I don't plan on using I should opt out on..... Brilliant! Oh, and you remember just how well those private security firms did at our
airports on 9/11. Absolutely we should shut the TSA down and go back to those
yokels again, because Government can't do anything right.
@ Bubble - Thanks! Didn't know that.
I deserve the right to opt out of socialized health care and not be forced to
pay taxes into it. Let the citizens choose. Not activists politicians or
judges, but, the people themselves.If the government really can run
a better system then people will flock to it. I doubt they can, even when they
control the laws and rules of the game. Government just doesn't work as
efficiently in that way.
"Just fix it!"... to quite SNL.BTW... did I mention I hate
automatic spell checkers! I need no help looking like an idiot. That I can
@The Judge... the problem with what you posted is like articles can be found
about the US system too. Deflecting by pointing out that other systems have
their challenges solves no problems. Lets focus working on our system and quit
worrying about others.But just to provide equal air time... from a
recent ABC News Poll we have"Support for change is based
largely on unease with the current system's costs. Seventy-eight percent are
dissatisfied with the cost of the nation's health care system, including 54
percent "very" dissatisfied.Indeed, most Americans, or 54
percent, are now dissatisfied with the overall quality of health care in the
United States the first majority in three polls since 1993, and up 10 points
since 2000."So lets stop worrying about what the UK is doing,
and start focusing on our own house. Every possible solution should be on the
table, from either side. Those parts of ObamaCare should be kept, those that
don't, REPLACED. The void of rolling back the clock would have such
a huge cost it would be like a bomb set off inside the system. "Just fix it!"... to quite SNL.
The health care system is no good because the Republicans screwed it up so badly
before it could even pass. Now they want to repeal it--not because it's no good,
but because they hate having a black Democrat for president. Obama isn't the one
destroying this country; it's the super-rich Republicans who refuse to let
anyone touch their big bank accounts.
Enough of show, now get serious.
RE: byronbca"What's the difference between getting bad
treatment because of not having the right equipment or getting bad treatment
because you have the wrong health care plan?"Innovation and
risk distribution.The system leading to the former ensures the
entire population has equal risk of bad treatment and discourages innovation.The system leading to the latter encourages innovation and distrubutes
the risk of bad treatment among the population based on how much they are
willing to pay for their care.
Here is what real reform looks like. It needs to be a bi-partisan, federal and
state partnership with the states doing most of the heavy lifting, Congress
providing the benchmarks for progress in cutting costs. Top ten ideas for
reducing costs:1) Stop dispensing valueless healthcare.2)
Reduce administrative overhead.3) Law of large numbers, find a
constitutional way to insure everyone.4) Fully implement electronic
medical records.5) Tort reform. Reduce costs of defensive medicine.6) Wholesale drug purchasing model.7) Redesign hospitals to contain
capital costs.8) Wellness initiatives, education and incentives.9)
Expand the number of and training infrastructure for medical professionals.10)Medically appropriate and timely care. Pariculary elder care where so much
of the cost of healthcare exists.Beyond the clamor of partisan
rhetoric there are real solutions to real problems. It's sad on so many issues
that the real solutions get lost in the din of bad politics. Politics should be
the most noble profession.
While I agree that the evils of Obamacare are being overstated, it is benefit
side only. Easy to be popular when you are offering benefits. Also, states can
do a better job with cutting costs.In a pre-Obamacare article
published February 27, 2008 in the Journal of the American Medical Association
JAMA, Dr. Ezekiel J. Emanuel, of the National Institutes of Health argued that
Its Health Care Costs, Stupid. According to recent polls, many
Americans consider health care reform the No. 1 domestic issue. Presidential
candidates, other politicians, health policy experts, labor leaders, business
groups, and others have responded with numerous reform proposals. And somehow,
in the clamoring, health care reform has become equated exclusively with
expanding coverage to the 47 million uninsured Americans.This is a
mistake. As serious as it is, the problems of the uninsured and lack of coverage
are symptoms, not the underlying problem. Focusing on them is like treating a
fever without addressing the causal infection. Instead, the diagnosis and
treatment need to focus on health care costsWithout controlling health care
costs, any attempt at universal coverage will be transient.
To those who wonder what will be in place if Obamacare is repealed.It would immediately be replaced by what was in place before.While
I agree that the health-care system we had isn't perfect, it worked pretty
well...better than what we see in most other countries.The root of
the issue I have with Obamacare is Federal vs States rights. Obama
administration has really stepped out of bounds on this one.All you
who claim the Republican party is just the 'party of no', I'd like to ask you
this. When something is wrong - clearly wrong - when is it appropriate to say
'Yes, Medicare supposedly covers 45 million and it is, according to your own
pathetic democratic liberal party, "on the road to bankruptcy.' - The
Final Word | 5:03 p.m. Jan. 3, 2011 Yes, an I'm sure our previous
president adding $4 Trillion dollars (almost double) to our national debt isn't
going to head us to bankrupcy.*'Bush Administration Adds $4 Trillion
To National Debt' - Posted by Mark Knoller - CBSNews - 03/04/10
Line:'With no fanfare and little notice, the national debt has grown by
more than $4 trillion during George W. Bush's presidency.' So,
medicare is not the only reason America has debt. Now, once
'Obamacare' is repealed, what does the GOP have as a SOLUTION? And I
mean a bill, date, name, etc. Not more abstract claims. Until this
happens, I see no reason why anyone would support the GOP to make things
WORSE... until it MIGHT get better. Those who do not
have a plan, criticize. There. I didn't even have to call your party
Good for them! I am a baby boomer and I don't like what I see happening to my
insurance. Since Jan 2010 my health insurance has doubled due to Obamacare. I
have gone to over $500 a month for healthcare when it was in the low $200.00 in
Jan 2010. I thought he said costs would not increase. NOT!
Republicans solution to a social and moral problem, make the rich richer. Their
one solution to costs..market competition. Sell insurance across state lines.
If this happens the too big to fail bank fiasco will be swamped by the tradgedy
ensued by the too big to fail insurance companies. It will be less than a
decade before there are three to four insurance companies for everyone.
Insurance pools will be subsidies of these big corps. When allowed to, capital
ALWAYS centralizes. If the last thirty years has taught us anything it has
taught us this.An unregulated market will not solve this moral
problem it will excaerbate it. Markets may originally be part of the solution
but they will never be the end solution. They aren't designed or intended to
be. It's simply unatural.
The only fair thing is for Congress to cut their own taxpayer supported program.
But they won't. The Republicans care only for themselves. This is shameful.
Rather than repeal, make it better. Health insurance is slowing killing middle
America and the business community. Any honest person will recognize that.
The Obamacare must be repealed in it entirety and a mandated veto override if
Obama's acts stupid.If there are popular elements of the law they
can be rewritten in to a new law representing those desired traits. We cannot
leave one shred of the Obama's plan in tact, it is written and designed with
plots and schemes that are financially impossible to sustain.Just
because there is one good thing in a law does not mean we should leave it
intact, that's how bad laws are created. Repeal one law and write a new law with
the desired elements, that is the only way it will work. Using fear to keep a
bad law is criminal. It's not against the law to rewrite a new law as some would
I'm anxious to see which parts of Obamacare they want to rescind first:-The prohibition against denying coverage for children with preexisting
conditions?-The process, begun just days ago on Jan. 1, to close the
prescription drug loophole?-The individual mandate, which was a Republican
idea in the first place?-the creation of the high-risk pool for people
with chronic conditions?The fact is, the GOP has bet all its chips
on public hatred for Obamacare. But this is a house built on sand, because
surveys show that opposition to Obamacare is directly proportional to ignorance
about what it actually entails. When people are asked whether they like
Obamacare, a small majority says they don't. But when they are asked about the
various components of Obamacare, people are largely in favor of them. Also, 25%
of that slim majority of people who oppose Obamacare oppose it not because it is
too liberal, but because it is too conservative (i.e., because it doesn't have a
single payer or a public option).In other words the GOP strategy is:
try to kill Obamacare before people realize that they like most of the stuff in
I would just like to say that this is a very well written article! Props to the
writer, it was very easy to read and understand. no hooplah at all.
And now we wait for a real Republican idea to drive down the cost of health care
to come forth...and we wait...and we wait...crickets chirping...and we
wait...and we wait...elevator music...and we wait...and we wait...Anybody else tired of waiting? Really, the cost of health insurance is only a
reflection of the cost of health care. It's time to put a cap on medical
liability lawsuits. Cap salaries on positions in all corporations that file as
non-profits and pay no taxes (IHC, anyone?). Get rid of red tape. Institute
price controls on medical equipment! The costs of health services
and products can be tamed. When those costs come down, so will the cost of
I am looking forward to a Republican solution. I'm looking forward to trimming
the fat within by addressing the massive medical waste. There are so many
millions and millions of dollars that are wasted by poor management and poor
medical quality. As we continue to tie physician and hospital reimbursement to
proven efficiencies and waste, we open the door for funding healthcare for
everybody.I am also looking to the Republicans to figure out how to
get the world to pay the U.S. fairly for their successful implementation of the
results from U.S. medical and pharmaceutical research. Other industrialized
countries are essentially "riding for free."Obama's plan
to jack up taxes and expand Medicare to facilitate coverage for all is a
first-grader solution written in a 1000 page document. Attacking the weaknesses
of our insurance industry only addresses a very small proportion of the problem.
It's time to get real, and the Republicans better not disappoint.
You all have heard the Repub idea for controlling costs, right? Making health
care portable across state lines. That'll fix everything! I can't wait until
my brother in California who has had cancer and is lost his job when his
department was sent to India can buy healthcare simply by buying a plan in Utah.
That way the insurance companies will overlook his pre-existing condition and
make health care affordable for him and his family. Oh, wait.....I
guess he can just go bankrupt or die. That sounds more like the
"compasionate" Repub plan.
If the Repubs kill "Obamacare" I believe they need to repeal their own
health care until they can come up with an option that will allow affordable
health insurance for everyone.When every person can see a dentist and have
a healthy smile, can go see a doctor for preventative examinations, then
Senators and Congressmen could reinstate their own health insurance--- Lol, I
kill myself!!! That will never happen. What a joke.The "DEATH
PANEL" is the Insurance Companies backed in full by the Republican Party.
@ A Guy: They changed the standard a week or so ago - now you get 4 comments
"We need TRUE health care reform and not this disaster known as Obamacare.
"I am OK with that statement. And I will add the we have
needed TRUE health care reform for quite a while.The dems tried it
under Clinton. Couldn't get it pass.Someone please remind me. What reform did the Republicans pass or even attempt to pass under Bush
with control of both houses for 6 years?Anyone? I
assure you that it is far easier to shoot down someone else's idea than to
propose your own.It would appear to me based on recent history that
the Republicans are content to leave health care as is with its sky rocketing
costs.Probably good for campaign contributions.
Whoa, whoa, whoa! Back up a step.....What do you mean they are
going to vote on repealing it? I thought things like that didn't work and we
needed to amend the Constitution in order for The People to be able to address
laws they don't like?Surely the system can't be working as intended
or we wouldn't need an amendment.....
These anxious new Republicans are more interested in shouting "No"
than in offering any alternative. Be courageous and stake out your position.
You know that any change is going to have its winners and losers, just as no
change is already making winners and losers.
Re The Judge:I would agree that Canada and England's socialized
health care is awful and it's not what we want here, but France and Holland's
socialized health care are some of the best in the world for both the rich and
the poor. We have the best doctors and hospitals in the world in
America but the way in which we have to pay for health care is one of the worst
and most exclusive. What's the difference between getting bad
treatment because of not having the right equipment or getting bad treatment
because you have the wrong health care plan?Personally, I don't like
the idea of hospitals and insurance companies having more legal obligations to
their stock holders than their patients.Something has to change.
Hey, DesNews Posting Police?Isn't the DesNews posting policy that
each poster is limited to only 2 (two) posts MAXIMUM per story?(I've
had pop-messages tell me I've submitted more than the maximum of two posts per
story before).So, why does the liberally-biasd poster named 'Pagan'
have 3 comments on this story? (1 -Pagan | 11:30 a.m. Jan. 3, 2011,2 - Pagan |
1:16 p.m. Jan. 3, 2011, 3 - Pagan | 2:29 p.m. Jan. 3, 2011)Either
I'm wrong and the DesNews allows more than 2 posts per story (nothing wrong with
that if that's the case) or I smell favoritism....
Republicans: Hack away! Hack away! Cut! Cut! Cut! Defund! Defund! Defund!ANYTHING is better than this current form of government-mandated health
And the Republican destruction of the middle class in favor of the bourgeoisie
Complainers are welcome, but where's the alternative health-care plan from
Republicans?"Where's the beef?" to replace Obamacare?
Dear Pagan: Read the London and Toronto papers. To whit:"A cash
crisis in the NHS"--that's Britain's National Health Service--"has
left patients lying on the operating table before doctors realized vital
equipment had not been ordered, according to a leaked report," London's
Sunday Telegraph reports: "Women in labour have been forced to wait
while epidural equipment was borrowed from other hospitals, while other patients
have been denied chest drains and radiology supplies, according to doctors at
South London Healthcare Trust.And..."Damning
reports on the state of the National Health Service, suppressed by the
government, reveal how patients' needs have been neglected," reports
London's Sunday Times:"They diagnose a blind pursuit of political and
managerial targets as the root cause of a string of hospital scandals that have
cost thousands of lives."I'll take our health care, thanks.
Jobs, jobs, jobs----that is the message of 2011; not repealing the last two
years----we are moving forward into the future. Obama ran on health care
reform in 2008 and was elected for what he ran on.
So the democrat's biggest accomplishment last year was an attempt to improve
health care for the non wealthy, while the republican's biggest victory was the
extension of Bush's tax breaks to the those making over $200,000 per year.As a middle class independent I'm having a hard time believing that
Republicans have the best interests of the middle class in mind.I
skeptical about Obamacare but at least it is an attempt to help out the middle
class. Can a republican please explain to me how giving the rich massive tax
breaks helps the middle class? Last elections I voted about 60% to
40% in favor of democrats, but if republicans don't start putting the best
interests of the middle class ahead of the rich's I'm might just become a
"The strategy is not risk-free for the Republicans, who won't have a
replacement plan of their own ready by the time of the repeal vote."Ya think? That's what the Republican party does best. They had how
many opportunities to try and address Health Care under Republican control and
did nothing. They want nothing done, period. Did they really want the issue
addressed, they would have done so at the numerous opportunities they had. They
blocked Clinton's attempts, did everything they could to block Obama's attempts,
will (unsuccessfully) try to repeal Obama's attempts, and still have no answer
themselves.The party of NO in action!
Mr. Obama's agenda is the magnet for unintended consequences. His isolation from
reality, now and in his previous experiences, makes him vulnerable. The blinders
that his rigid progressive views impose removes him from the real world. Pagan's
cut-and-paste examples in the insurance industry are a telling.
re: paganYes, Medicare supposedly covers 45 million and it is,
according to your own pathetic democratic liberal party, "on the road to
bankruptcy.So lets expand it for everyone!!! That seems
realistic to me. I mean we obviously can't fund what we are trying to provide
now and obama openly admits there are billions in fraud in abuse while covering
the measly 45 million. They can't control or monitor or stop it.Democrats solution? Coverage for everyone!!!I'm sure that would
be real efficient and affordable. Not. The whole concept is a
failure based on the first premise. Yes, lets provide healthcare to over 300
000 000 people since we can't afford to provide it to the 45 million currently
involved.This is how democrats think and that is why the last 110th
democratic congress in on record for amassing more debt than the first 100
I'm all for full repeal of Obamacare however there needs to be some common sense
reforms proposed for health care because it is horribly expensive and there are
too many who need coverage that have a hard time getting it such as married
college students and those who are out of work.
@Pagan,I'm glad we agree on that point. Something for you to
consider, though:Unfunded mandates are not particularly effective
historically. This is not a partisan issue. Utah has been heavily Republican, as
we all know, since the 70's, but still the state legislature issues unfunded
mandates to county and city governments. The federal government does the same to
the states, and even several Democratic states are whining they can't afford the
implementation of Obamacare.I don't say the federal government
should have no role in reforming healtcare regulation to encourage cost savings
and availability of coverage. I do say they should not prescribe the exact
method for each state. In other words, set the general expectations for slowing
the rise in the cost of healtcare, increasing the number of insured, and basic
benefits. Then, hands off and let the states flush out the details appropriate
to reach the general federal targets. It's federalism at its best
and Jefferson and Madison would have been proud.We can still do that
without repealing the whole enchilada. Let's learn from the real world and
adjust where needed. Practical bi-partisan problem solving not blind
facts_r_stubborn - I am with you. I have no problem repealing Obamacare, or
amending it, so long as there is a better alternative. But you don't take away
something, leaving a void for a couple of years while you figure it out. That
would cause companies to have to retool what they are offering three time - and
each time you change things up, it cost companies money.The
pragmatic way to deal with this is to repeal and replace those sections that
don't work. We don't need revolutionary change, but evolutionary change. I would love to see what the Republicans have in mind - as a package.
Unfortunately up to right now, this grand plan only exist in someones head and
there is nothing to look at yet.Having a show vote with no plan is
yet another battle taken where time would be better spent actually doing
productive work toward a real solution, or on other initiatives that truly do
need our attention.Remember Jobs... that still needs to be fixed.
This battle will do nothing to advance that issue.
'Now all we can do is threaten to repeal Obamacare, with an eye to 2012
elections and gaining more power. Fine! But what is our plan to address the core
problem? Before we repeal the democratic solution shouldn't we have a plan B?' -
facts_r_stubborn | 2:17 p.m. THANK you! Facts, your a
self-identified conservative, I'm a self-identified liberal, and I completely
agree with this statement. Going forward from this, a state-by-state
option would be very confusing and, at some points I'm sure, contradictory. Perhaps a public option...
Extreme ideological politics buy us very little. I'm a conservative who also
recognizes the fact that health care costs are eating the middle class alive.
Obamacare did nothing to address the true cost drivers of
healthcare. It was benefit side only. They also totally inaccurately made the
private health insurance industry with a 1.6% profit margin the scapegoat for
these rising healthcare costs.To really get at the costs, we need
state based reforms that fit the situations in each state. MA is not UT.Having said that, it is very unfortunate that my party really is
becoming the party of "no." We don't offer any realistic solutions
anymore. We did have some pretty good market based ideas on how to slow rising
healthcare costs. Now all we can do is threaten to repeal Obamacare,
with an eye to 2012 elections and gaining more power. Fine! But what is our plan
to address the core problem? Before we repeal the democratic solution shouldn't
we have a plan B? Ultimately, the Republican, (tea-ed-off party)
will not be successful if it doesn't have it's own detailed plans for market
"Where there is no vision the people perish. " Our current system
has bankrupt too many businesses and families. Congress has good health care.
Sorry GOP (freshman), it's the "Baby-Boomer Retirement Wave" that's in
charge in 2012 also. Eager to show who's now in charge, the House's new
Republican majority plans to vote to repeal President Barack Obama's landmark
health care overhaul before he even shows up in their chamber to give his State
of the Union address. You paid your Medicare taxes all those years and think
you deserve your money's worth: full benefits after you retire. Nearly three
out of five people say in a recent Associated Press-GfK poll that they paid into
the system so their benefits shouldn't be cut. But a newly updated financial
analysis shows that what people paid into the system doesn't come close to
covering the full value of the medical care they can expect to receive as
retirees. Consider an average-wage, two-earner couple together earning $89,000
a year. Upon retiring in 2011, they would have paid $114,000 in Medicare payroll
taxes during their careers. But they can expect to receive medical services
from prescriptions to hospital care worth $355,000, or about three times what
they put in.
Can people stop using the words "American people" as if all American
people believe one thing or another. State your belief and be done with it, but
don't lump me in with your beliefs!
'I don't think anyone says the current system is good.' - Anti Government |
11:54 a.m. 'Seems like your life is at risk more with Government
insurance than with private.' - RedShirt | 11:56 a.m. Anti
Goverment, meet Redshirt. Who argues that private health insurance
is 'less risk' (better?) than goverment.... when medicare covers 45
million people, and Aetna covers 13 million.
Our Health Insurance Reform may be repealed by the house right now, but it will
never be repealed by the Senate and it won't down the road either. It isn't
perfect (and the Republicans don't have a perfect solution either) But it's a
start and will take us on our way to better health insurance coverage. The
biggest thing people don't understand is that it is mostly about denying people
coverage due to pre-existing conditions and about the hardship and sometimes,
even bankruptsy due to medical bills. This is not civilized in the greatest
country in the world! Many other countries already have provisions for these
things and we need to catch up to them if we want to continue to be that
To "Pagan | 11:30 a.m." how about this:"Medicaid
cuts: teeth pulled, transplant called off" - Deseret News"In Illinois, a pharmacist closes his business because of late Medicaid
payments. In Arizona, a young father's liver transplant is canceled because
Medicaid suddenly won't pay for it. In California, dentists pull teeth that
could be saved because Medicaid doesn't pay for root canals""Medicares Refusal of Medical Claims Continues to Outpace Private
Rate" - The Independent Institute"In its 2009 National
Health Insurer Report Card, the AMA reports that Medicare denied only 4% of
claimsa big improvement, but outpaced better still by the private insurers. The
prior years high private denier, Aetna, reduced denials to 1.81%an astounding
75% improvementwith similar declines by all other private insurers, to average
only 2.79%."Seems like your life is at risk more with
Government insurance than with private.
re: PaganYour anecdotal stories are wonderful. I don't think anyone
says the current system is good.Anyone with a brain though ought to
realize that the massive govt reach that they call "reform" is nothing
but a road to higher taxes and more debt.I'm not sure how you live
at your house but most people, unless their liberals, should try to live within
their means. Translation? If you don't have the money then you shouldn't
spend it.The government gets its money from us and they are nearly
bankrupt so how is it the govt can mandate all this coverage when there is not
money to provide it.The curent system is no good but obamas is
worse.We need health insurance just like life insurance. You pay
according to risk and you are guaranteed coverage as long as you pay your
premiums.You are as bad as the silly liberal politicians that have
been bought off by the special interests.The reality is we do not
have enough money to cover every single heath issue. That is unaffordable but
then again that is what seems to appeal to democrats. Just print more huh?
Fortunately, the American people have more common sense than many senators.Congress will simply zero fund this monstrosity, the House will vote to
repeal and the American people will see who is really on their side--not the
Dems. The American people have the right to self determination.
They don't want Obamacare. Obama, Pelosi and Reid have no concern about what
the people want. They are only concerned about their own leftist agenda. IT'S
SCARY.We need TRUE health care reform and not this disaster known as
Republicans 'vowed' to stop healthcare reform. Now, they vow to
repeal it. How effective. As for improvements.... * 'Heavy infant in Grand Junction denied health insurance' - By Nancy
Lofholm - Denver Post - 10/12/09Line:'By the numbers, Alex
(Lange) is in the 99th percentile for height and weight for babies his age.
Insurers don't take babies above the 95th percentile, no matter how healthy they
are otherwise. "I could understand if we could control what he's
eating. But he's 4 months old. He's breast-feeding. We can't put him on the
Atkins diet or on a treadmill," joked his frustrated father, Bernie
Lange...' * Insurer revoked HIV Patients coverage Reuters 03/17/10
I will grant you healthcare reform is not perfect. But
it is better than being dropped from your insurance if you find out you have a
terminal disease. Like cancer. 'Wellpoint Drops Coverage
For Some Women With Breast Cancer' - By Mary Ellen Egan - Forbes Magazine -
04/23/10 'Yesterday, an investigation by Reuters revealed that
Wellpoint routinely drops coverage of women with breast cancer. According to the
report, Wellpoint used a computer algorithm that automatically targeted...'
Obama is destroying our country, and even more Democrats will be thrown out of
office in 2012.Maybe we will survive until then, but health care has
been irretrievably broken now, and will be bad even if Obamacare is repealed.
No surprises here!We'll simply not fund Obamacare and repeal it in
2012 with the next (Republican) president.Citizens want IMPROVEMENTS
to their health care delivery systems, NOT 16000 new IRS agents!