Utes just ran into a better team. Guess this year was different than 2008 and
I always find it intersting how many people are critical of the players and
their attitudes and somehow want the coach to solve that- having coached a
little in my life I would suggest that most of the time the attitude of the
players is a reflection of the coaches- stop pointing fingers at the players and
point a few at the coaches- they set the tone on a team and the ground rules-
most of the time when things happen it is either coaches who set the tone or
coaches that failed to set the tone- classless- look no further than the
coaches- you get paid the big bucks then you take the blame.
One zero"Besides, I've given up, half of my responses to SammyG
never get published anyways."Could it be that one of the
reasons that your comments were not published was that they were inappropriate
or classless like so many comments we see on these boards? Rules are rules and
if your comments are not making the ink it's your problem.You know
I'm not a Ute Nation lover but I'm not an institutional hater either. I think
the U of U is a great school. I'm thinking in a year or two I might
honestly enjoy watching more Ute football from a more positive perspective than
what I've exhibited this past season. Ute Nation commentary and
attitude to BYU stories has influenced my thinking. Seeing an institution
constantly derided and taken to task for everything through its sports programs
is very strange don't you think? Maybe the BYU / Utah parting of
ways will foster a healthier atmosphere down the road. Maybe it will calm down
the rivalry but deep down I will always root for BLUE.Maybe in 2012
I'll become a Ute fan. Until then expect my honest comments.
To Pac ManIt actually makes me chuckle a little when people try to
make a point by capitalizing their words, especially when the supposed facts
they are spewing are wrong.If you recal Utah won at Arizona in their
first BCS busting year. That was 2004. That is this century.And you
know what all that history means, absolutely nothing. Utah will do fine in the
Pac-12 and BYU will do fine as an independent. For those stating
that both will fail, please give me some other "facts" so I can plan
my future, maybe start with the price of gas this summer.
One Nil 10:23pm Christmas Day, geesh..."Besides, I've given up,
half of my responses to SammyG never get published anyways." (sniff, sniff, Kleenex moment) To my fans:I am honored that I have
somehow been credited with beating one Ute troll at their own game.Actually I cannot take any credit as it was the fight on the field that made
the real difference. Congratulations to BYU for a winning season and
gaining all of the momentum for next season.To the Utes, a 10-3
cupcake season won't begin to cure the woes of being in the PAC-12. Enjoy Vegas,
your new home away from home bowl series. I just keep thinking of
the movie "Groundhog Day" and wondering what's going to be different
at Vegas next year.Utesies... I'll be watching you close next
season. I hope you can impress me. Nothing would please me more than seeing you
guys do something next year... anything.BYU vs. Utah at game #3 will
be a different animal.My only hope being on these boards was to even
things out a little bit and have some fun. Hope it was fun for everyone.
Both Zoob & Ute fans on this forum need to get a life. Wow, read some of
these comments from the Zoobs......the institution is classess...bla bla. Wow,
you sound like spoiled little Maxy Hall. Football is a trash talking sport.
You guys seriously don't think your team talks on the field? Get a life. Spend
some time with your families. Get a new hobby. At the end of the day, it's
just football. Who cares? I've learned that these forums are about as big a
waste of time as PS3. Besides, I've given up, half of my responses to SammyG
never get published anyways. I really wish this rivalry would die. I'm really
sick of both sides. Here's wishing BYU success going Independent. I don't
agree with it. I don't think there going to every reach a BCS title game this
way. But, good luck to them. I don't hate the University (I will probably send
my daughter there in 16 years), I just dislike 97% of their fans.
Utes........you better recruit hard, b/c gone are the weeks of playing WAC
patsies. It will be interesting.
To Uteology - seems like your research is pretty one-sided, as it is for most
homers who have nothing better to do than update their scrapbooks titled
"Why I Hate My Perceived Sports Enemy." Maybe 2011 is the year to get
a real life.
UteologyHand picking stats that only support a particular point of
view is by definition "spin".For example: Utah hasn't
beaten a single PAC 10 team with a winning record on the road THIS CENTURY!Conclusion: Utah has absolutely no chance of ever winning a PAC 12
championship because the best Utah will ever be able to do is finish 5-4 when
the Utes have 5 conference home games.(And please, don't try
confusing road games with neutral site games. Beating California in San Diego
isn't remotely the same as beating California in Berkeley.)btw,When are your going to grow up and stop with the childish name calling?
That's the kind of thing elementary school kids do when they don't have a
serious rebuttal to an opposing argument.
@Veritas AequitasMan, your the most ridonkulous BYU fan.What part of what I said was spin? All were true, from articles posted on
Deseret News.Yes, it has NOTHING to do with Mississippi State but
YES it has to do with BYU. Why? Wait for it... because it is BYU fans on a
Utah board calling out Utes as classes. So, as a BYU fan you guys
need to look in the mirror before judging others.I think I made it
clear on where I stand:"What DV did on twitter was ridonkulous
as well, he should have let his play do the talking not his mouth."Now look in the mirror and tell me where you stand about your own teams
Uteology | 1:22 p.m. Dec. 25, 2010 Fort Worth, Texas Way to
spin out of the issue.Of course, that "is" what
"uteology" is, isn't it?Spinning out of the truth, the
facts, reality?Has nothing to do with BYU, or Mississippi State.Quick question.Do you personally approve of the Ute
Program's behavior?Make a stand...
All these comments from BYU fans of classless Utes is ridonkulous!! Why? Well judge for yourselfA) BYU apologizes to USU for
ill-advised Jumbotron message -- Deseret News (Nov 18, 2010)B) BYU
football: Max Hall reprimanded by Mountain West Conference -- Deseret News (Nov.
30, 2009)C) BYU football: Max Hall apologizes for tirade -- Deseret
News (Nov. 30, 2009)D) BYU football: Lamb, Jorgensen reprimanded for
comments in Daily Herald -- Deseret News (Nov. 23, 2009)E) Doing the
Hakka on the road, throwing upside down U, and blowing kisses by BYU players is
as also a sign of showing disrespect to your opponent What DV did on
twitter was ridonkulous as well, he should have let his play do the talking not
his mouth. However, comparing actions of a 20 year old sophomore
with 26 year old seniors puts things in perspective, considering DV was never
reprimanded by the league.
I'll take a 10 win season...
correction - any 1-loss team from any non-qualifying CONFERENCE in the nation.
To Go Big Blue - you're surely brilliant. It's crystal clear that a 4-loss
Connecticut from the mighty Big East is far more deserving of BCS glory and
money than any 1-loss team from any non-qualifying team in the nation.
The game confirmed the reasoning that a non-qualifying conference team has to go
undefeated before they are taken seriously. A 10 and 2 team from podunk
conference is just not that good.
I'm a BSU fan and have watched every Bronco game this year. In my opinion this
was the Broncs worst performance of the season (including the Nevada game). I
was at the bowl game in LV. It had been pouring rain there for four straight
days. Rather remarkably, the rain stopped about an hour before kickoff. The
field had to have been soaking wet. I wonder if that (wet ball) contributed to
so many dropped passes (on both sides). Not making excuses. Just wondering.
Regrets? Regrets? They Utes are lucky they weren't beat by 40 points.Their arrogance is laughable. Boise State would be Utah 9 out of 10 times!
I am as big a Ute fan as anyone out there, but this has to be said. We need to
quit with the smack BS before the games. This running to the middle of the
field to rumble is something that has to end. Grow up. Talk with your talent
and efforts not with your big mouths. In other words, walk softly and carry a
big stick. Next, Sam Brenner was useless, I would have played Cullen with one
arm. Brooke's could not catch a cold, the offensive line should be ashamed.
Justin Taplin-Ross was a liablility all year long. Blechen had to play two
positions because Justin was day-dreaming. With the exception of the fourth
quarter against the TDS, we played with no heart in our final six games. Kyle,
do a Bronco and make each offensive coach, sans Johnson, reapply for his job.
We are going into the big time, we need big time effort. Play up, not down.
Though I wasn't happy with much of Utah's antics, trash talking and behavior
just before kickoff, they had a very fine season. Do we really have to put with
Christopher for two more years?Bottom line as said up there, Boise
is a better team, will probably be ranked close to the top 5 when it's all said
and done and Utah around #25 when it's all said and done. Still disappointed in
some of things that happened but Coach Whittingham and the Utes had a good
I am a Ute supporter but the following is obvious1. The QB's the coaching
staff have recruited are average at best. Dump Wynn right now. He's a girly boy
and not man enough to play D1 ball. To frail. For crying out loud he weighted
155 lbs in high school.2. The Offensive line is undisciplined and killed
any chance of being competitive against Boise.3. If you add up Shakey's
good run's and fumbleshe breaks even. Could have been great.... to many
mistakes4. The defensive line could not apply any pressure on the
quarterback at all. This is true for the entire year. That's why the db's got
killed.5. Safeties to young and inexperienced.If you look at the film
they made as many mistakes as they did postive ones. Nobody counts blown
coverages when the other teams scores.6. The offensive co-ordinators
should be fired.7. It would have been better if Asiata had not come back
to play this year. To slowOther than that..the next year looks really
bad.Mostly because our quarterback position really really looks horrible.
Whit's winning is over.
Coach Whittingham needs to quit worrying about keeping his cronnies employed and
get some qualified assistants around him.
Funny how when Utah was beating up on horrible teams like UNLV, CSU, and New
Mexico at the start of the season, BYU fans couldn't stop talking about how
those wins meant nothing, Utah was horribly overrated, beating those teams by 50
was meaningless, on and on.Yet after BYU finishes the season by
beating up on those EXACT same horrible teams, it somehow indicates that the
Cougars are an unstoppable force and the greatest team in the land.The hypocrisy from Zoobs makes me laugh.
Maybe Urban Meyer could be our OC next year, probably not as stressful as being
HC. Congrats to the other teams who have won their bowl games thus far. Here is
to a better year in 2011 for the Utes. Go Utes!
"classy" were the loogies on my Utah decals after the BYU game. Can
we please get over the classy/hypocritical argument? The sooner both sides come
to the understanding that neither side has a moral highground the better off
we'll be, and we can just focus on what happens on the field.
The yewts biggest mistake was trying to block Payne's game winning field goal...
Had they not done that then BYU could have returned to the Vegas Bowl, made a
much better showing (maybe eve won), and then the yewts could have gone to New
Mexico and play a "nail biter" with UTEP and possible have been able
to keep their bowl win streak alive (although it might have been tough for
them)... They at least would have been able to return to Vegas without being
laughed off the field in the future.
Sometimes the simplest answer is the best answer. Boise St was the better team.
The Utes need to be grateful for the BSU mis-cues. If not for the
turnovers etc. Boise St would have embarrassed the U.
Season's over. Good luck next year in the PAC12. I'll cheer for you guys next
year, but not in September in Provo. Sorry. Someday we'll meet in a January
bowl game. I can feel it coming. So let's hope for the best for both programs.
Some random thoughts:1. Had a great time at the game. Enjoyed
Boise fans before and after the game. A few near-by fans at the game irritated
me... they just didn't behave as I thought the should.2. Boise was
a better team. I thought they showed they were a top 10 team but I did not
think they should have been in the championship game. As a team they impressed
me but TCU, I thought, were better than us at almost all positions. I did not
get that impression about Boise.3. The Tribune read, "Still a
good bowl record". With this loss the U's bowl winning percentage dropped
to 75%. As of last year the highest winning percentage of ANY team (except
Utah) with 10 bowl appearances was 70%!! I guess having the best percentage in
the nation could still be consided a GOOD bowl record.4. Many have
predicted BYU's return to a impressive winning record and the U's fall to a near
break-even record next year. I, for one, can easily see that happening. This
while the teams remain relatively close in talent. Schedules mean
everything!!!! I prefer PAC-12!
So, I got the chips and salsa, put on my Ute hat so everyone in the room would
know who I was rooting for and watched the game. Then, the Utes decide to
exchange words with their noble opponents before the game began. And this
continued throughout the game. I took off my Ute hat at half-time and rooted for
the players who were doing, not talking. I rooted for the men, not the boys.
I think that Whittingham needs to make a serious reevaluation of his offensive
staff. Cain or Wynn, the Utes didn't have success this year against mid to
elite tier defenses. The defense really had a decent year... the teams that
beat them managed to keep our offense in series of three and outs and a defense
can only hold for so long in those conditions. Considering the offense was
expected to be way ahead of the defense this year experience and personnel-wise,
I think this merits consideration and possibly some offensive coaching staff
Wook, hypocritical is the Ute Nation whining about Max Hall, printing "Max
Hates Me" t-shirts, and condoning the thuggish behavior of the University
of Utah Athletic progam.There's a problem on the Hill that needs to
be addressed, ya think?Or do you personally approve of the Ute
Program's behavior?Make a stand...
Could it be hypocritical that so many BYU Fans are trying to judge utah players
for talking smack when that is all they do here? nah, couldn´t be.Utah is a good team that lost to a great team. Half of the loss is on
our team as they didn´t execute, but half of the loss is because Kellen
Moore and Pettis are just plain studs that are ready for the NFL. As a fan of
college football, I couldn´t help but admire how well those two played.
The BSU running game was good too, but the passing attack of the
broncos, just unbelievable. It is really too bad that BSU
couldn´t stop Nevada, It would have been fun to see them beat up on an
opponent in the BCS and then garner some 1st place votes in the AP poll,
following in teh Utes footsteps from the 08 season.
Not only did Utah lose the game but the comments by Christopher were
insipid--he's been a loose cannon all year long as witnessed by his sideline
antics during the TCU game. The near-riot at the start of the game probably had
the PAC-12 presidents shaking their heads plus all the trash talking while
managing to lose by over three touchdowns. That's the stuff that the
Whittingham and the U. coaches should regret most...
Being gracious in defeat or victory is not one of the U's strong points. So much
for its designation as a "class" program. As a tax payer who graduated
from the U I was embarrassed, not at the score, but by the team's representation
of the state of Utah.
alpha chicken: You're welcome. Consider it our gift to you for this special
season of giving.
Of course the Ute football team is all about trash talking and fighting. What
team do they remind you of? What hand signs are they using to represent
themselves? They are just following in the path of the biggest trash talking,
fighting school in college football history, the real "U", Miami
Hurricanes. I would be embarrassed if my school AND fans were using
a sign taken from a school known for cheating, fighting, taunting, etc...
I think the sky must be falling. Ive read these posts, and the BYU fans who
obviously aren't biased at all, have come to the conclusion that Utah boat is
sinking. I appreciate that for what its worth. The BYU program is headed in the
only direction it can go from here, and after huge wins against the bottom half
of the MWC, a stellar 7-6 season with a big win over national powerhouse UTEP
they are ready for the big dance (well at least the WAC leftovers). Since there
are no problems at BYU(well at least since the entire offensive coaching staff
and defensive coordinator was fired). The BYU fans are obviously in a position
of moral superiority and they can advise us lowly Utah fans on how to not be
classless. Thank you cougar fans for stepping down to that level.
Funny hearing smack from fans or a 7-6 team, has 1 win over a team with a
winning record and lost head to head against a team that finished 10-3 with 2 of
their losses against top 10 teams. Also, for those predicting the down fall of
Utah in the Pac-12 and BYU as an independent, could you please post your
"knowledge" of future events on the internet so we could all profit
from it. Maybe some stock tips or something like that. You guys are
ridiculous.As for the smack talk from Utah, this is one Utah fan
that hated it, and it really irritated me that we had guys focusing on talking
instead of playing. Let BSU chirp all they want, just play the game.Congratulations to BYU saving their season from a complete disaster, and
congrats to Utah on a very successful season, though not quite what we had hoped
I still feel Utah was robbed by bad referries and replay booth officials. Give
them a break and they would be playing Auburn in the National Championship game.
Christian Cox says: "It was a tough game. We played our little hearts out
on defense."Therein lies the problem with the Utes. Too little
heart (both defense and offense), too much braggadocio.Coach Kyle
has a tough row to hoe going into the PAC. Too many players with too little
heart and too big a mouth.That is truly a coaching problem. There's
no way for any coach to excuse or defend that sort of thing.It's
really sad to see how much the Utes embarrassed themselves this past season.I would hope Coach Kyle receives a copy of Coach John Wooden's book,
"Leadership Game Plan for Success: 12 Lessons for Extraordinary Performance
and Personal Excellence" for Christmas. Then he ought implement what it
teaches before his first season in the PAC-12.
Let's be realistic. Utah NEVER had a chance to win this game. Think about it.
BSU only had 15 turnovers all year and they had 4 in this game alone. And they
still managed to win by 3 touchdowns and gain 540 yards of offense. Utah only
managed 200 yards of offense. BSU is a FAR superior team. No question.
A football team lost a game, big deal. Sports is taken way too seriously in this
country and in this state. Cocky Utah fans and self-righteous BYU fans, get some
@MountanmanNo they will not behave themselves next time. The
classlessness is institutionalized. It is a top to bottom, completely ingrained,
and totally consuming behavior for this program and its fans. Pathetic really.
Re: sports fan. Most of the "celebrating" on here is not about hating
anyone, its about the unfortuate pre-game behavior of some of the Ute players.
They got the drubbing they deserved! Next time maybe they will behave themselves
and show some class!
wow guys you really are a bunch of losers. you are like the "people"
in the middle east who were celebrating in the street after September 11th.
reveling because somebody you hate is in misery. the circumstances are not
comparable but the attitude is the same. i guess people are the same the
Can't wait for August...congrats to a 10-3 season Utes...I love you guys!!
They them girlse state cheerleaders dominated U.I just wish a boise
state player had grabbed some pom poms and gotten an excessive celebration
penalty. Would have been a perfect ending.But they're too classy
@ King View, AMEN.All of you that complain about Utahs poor sportsmanship,
look in the mirror. Is your trash talking any different? I think not. Grow up.
I am not in a position to say all things Utah are classless. I missed the
pregame fight and tauntings so I can't comment on that. What I did see was
Boise state was a little rusty out of the gate but were still able to keep the
boat afloat and get their act together to win. I saw a Utah team with a lot of
opportunities which they squandered by being pushed back on their heels, making
stupid mistakes (What was with all the holding?) and an All American receiver
and companions who caught that virus that BYU receivers had at the first of the
season which causes extreme tenderness in the hands. At the time the Y
receivers were called out as poor atheletes. So I guess the story of Utah this
season is they became poor atheletes. (Absurd assumptions both ways)Coach
Mendenhall just calls the difference in winning and losing execution. Down the stretch BYU learned to execute.Utah learned to be
Very seldom is 7-6 greater than 10-3 but this year it is. BYU and Utah are
headed in very different directions. Next year I see BYU finishing 10-3 while
Utah would be lucky to finish 7-6. BTW, way to back up the trash talk Devonte
Christopher! Zero catches! Who is the girlse now?
As expected, no shortage of reference posts to the pre-game (most notably)
castigations by u players. I would only hope that Whit has a CTJ session with
his team and lays on some wood. The player's tweet referencing boise as girlses
about to get spanked hard, rings more than hollow. Especially with the reality
as to which team played like they were preoccupied connecting daisy chains,
while the Broncos served up a heaping does of "Boys II Men"!
I get sick reading these comments every week. I swear the fans of both schools
on here have some personal assessment of their own value every time either of
these teams play. It's ridiculous and so petty. There are news stories with real
personal implications that don't get this many comments. It's sad. Utah is a
fine institution. BYU has made a name for itself. Utah didn't get chosen to go
to the PAC-12 because of football alone. The utes being chosen is no reflection
of byus program. While sports may dominate every decision in your life, I hope
you are the minority. A little perspective people.
Okay, seriously, no need to rub it in. They still beat us in the rivalry game. I
don't care if you guys think it was because of the refs. We should never have
put ourselves in a position to lose from a call in the first place. Let the Utes
worry about their football team and we can worry about ours.
All the trash talking, mugging and fighting coming from Utah deminishes the
team, the school and the sport. Coach Whit should kick the offenders off the
This may have been the worst performance of the year by Boise State, and it was
not because of any fine defensive play from Utah.
Us here at Gameday are trying to figure out who was worse. BYU at the beginning
of the season or Utah at the end of the season. Wow that's a tough call.
The only regrets the Utes should have is recruiting players who trash talk.
Every team they've had in the past 15 years has included players that acted that
way. This article is way lame by insinuating the Utah players could
have any regrets about their performance or the outcome of that game. Utah was
dang lucky to have only lost by 23. It coulda, woulda, shoulda been 43. Instead
Utah should find solace in holding Boise State to only 26 points. If those two
teams played ten more times Utah would lose every one of them and by far bigger
Another problem- utah to busy trash talking, even the ESPN commentators (who we
discovered were assigned before they knew who would play) made a comment about
it, saying basically enough is enough, go play football. Between the
"girlse" comment, the fight during the week, and the pregame fight,
utah has established, no cemented, itself as a classless, self-centered,
program.This is an arrogant team and fans base. A lot of schools are
going to enjoy taking them behind the woodshed.
The Yewts are no better than a #8 or 9 team in the new PAC 12. Good luck in
your future endeavors. You'll need it.By the way, coulda, shoulda,
woulda doesn't count. The Yewts didn't get a 24 to 0 lead, so it is irrelevant
because it didn't happen. If I use that reasoning, BYU shoulda beat the U by 24
points a few weeks ago.
This was a painful game to watch. It reminded be of BYU at the first of this
past season. Some good things happening but just couldn't string together enough
of them to keep the ball moving. I kept expecting the Utes to get things going
but it never happened. I was very discouraged by the pre-game taunting and
mouthing off of the Ute players during the game. This was classless and really
changed my attitude about wanting the Utes to win. I applaud the Boise coach who
grabbed his player and severely chastised him for the same type of behavior. I
realize this goes both ways but I really would like to have seen a Utah coach do
the same to their players. You would think this would stop by the time your team
is down 3 touchdowns but it continued for some of the players. I hope
Whittingham disciplines them. Maybe these types of players will get humbled next
year in the PAC. No, I don't like it any more when the BYU players or any
schools players do it.
Very Simple - utes nation were feeling the welcome hands from the PAC10 and were
focusing for next year and seeking for big thing. Feeling the future bcs world
and Bronco the non qualifier school made sure utah don't win this game. And you
think the pac10 and the rest of the bcs feeling stupid picking up utah?
That game was painful to watch and I feel sorry for the Utes. They really did
miss some opportunities. They easily could have had a 24-0 lead in the first
quarter and that could have changed the whole complexion of the game. In the
first quarter, it looked like they were going to do to Boise what they did to
Alabama... but you have to catch the ball! (the big one they did catch was
called back due to a penalty) What if? What if? This is going to haunt Utah for
A football season is like a horse race. Its not how you start that counts,
it's how you finish,,,
Funny, no mention made of all the smack-talking from the Utah side. Seems like
everyone else noticed it though...