What Christmas is all about

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  • madison Magna, UT
    Dec. 26, 2010 10:44 a.m.

    Even though this "holy" day became a "holly" day and Thanksgiving Day became "Turkey Day", and even though pagans and athiests tried to make it nothing else: it is still Christ - mass, and Protestants can forget the "mass".

    Be merry in your hearts and drink, if you drink, to Jesus Christ, by far the greatest Man to ever live on the earth.

  • linda Rae Taylorsville, UT
    Dec. 24, 2010 8:51 p.m.

    Christmas helps people to remember loved ones. It affords me another chance to witness, and do some good in this world. To hear some of the most beautiful music ever written, see beautiful decorations, and enjoy company of loved ones I have the chance to visit with.
    But aside from providing quality variety to so many aspects of my life, Christmas gives an opportunity to love & honor Jesus Christ, the One who first loved me, and each person on earth. His Deeds, the Meaning of His Life, and His Atonement are impossible to completely understand today. But I can comprehend and do enjoy thinking during this Christmas season, of His love for me, & rejoice in the Birth that started His Work.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Dec. 24, 2010 8:36 p.m.

    RAB, that being the case, my apologies if that was your intent.

    I am just getting tired of the politics corrupting everything, including religion and religious holidays. We can agree to disagree politically, but above all were are still brothers and sisters in faith, Conservative and liberal alike.

    Joggle, happy holidays to you as well.

  • Joggle Clearfield, UT
    Dec. 24, 2010 7:13 p.m.


    That's the point! The only thing past the glitz and commercialism is religious celebration and that would fine with me if only I didn't feel compelled to participate because of a family tradition that is not mine or of my making. I'd rather celebrate something else as a holiday with my like-minded family that would mean more to me than celebrating a holiday that should have remained religious. Even so....I'm guilty of falling into the commercial side of Christmas when I was more naive and now it's an expectation!

    But....Happy Holidays to All....whatever it means to you!

  • RAB Bountiful, UT
    Dec. 24, 2010 5:58 p.m.

    With all due respect, Mr. UtahBlueDevil, I haven't listened to Limbaugh since his TV show went off the air over a decade ago and my previous comment was NOT politically motivated.

    I am offended that you would so condecendingly accuse me of being argumentative and of wanting to politicize Christmas when in fact I was only defusing someone else's attempt to do just that.

    LDS Liberal's politically motivated comment, on the other hand, maligned conservatives, insinuating that they somehow are not like Mary and Joseph because Mary and Joseph were huge supporters of taxes and the redistribution of wealth.

    My intention was solely to expose the baselessness of that claim. When people use the scriptures to malign the views of other people, I generally try to set things straight - even if it is Christmas.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Dec. 24, 2010 3:51 p.m.

    Joggle, you decide if Christmas has become that to you or not. No one is forcing anything on you. If you can't see past the glitz and commercialism, I am sorry.

    RAB, really? Do you have to go all Limbaugh over Christmas as well? Bottom line, the message set in the scriptures is that regardless of our economic or governmental issues we may have, the gospel is the same, and our duties and responsibilities are invariable regardless. Christmas comes the same in the most capitalist of societies as equally it does in communist Russia. Politicizing Christmas is far worse than anything Jobble complained of.

    LDS Liberal... you too....leave it be. Put down the insults and politics just for one day and honor the real intent of this day. On Boxing day (ironically named), you two can go back to beating each other about the head with your political swings.

    Merry Christmas all.... everyone.

  • Joggle Clearfield, UT
    Dec. 24, 2010 3:28 p.m.

    As the history explains, Christmas began as a religious festival. Christmas as a festival or holiday did not start until some years after Christ's birth and death. Even the actual date of Christ's birth is in question because of reference to multiple calendars over the years. Over the years, elements of pagan festivals were integrated into the Christmas celebration. Christmas was, nonetheless, consistently a time for families to come together for celebrate the birth of Jesus and to worship together. The religious activities were enhanced by food, drink, decorations, and an appreciation of the winter season as a doorway to the renewal of spring.

    If Christmas was just an appreciation of the winter season as a doorway to the renewal of spring I would be fine with that, but it has grown into a economic commercial monster with fictitious characters as its representatives! I would be happy to see religion take complete rein of the holiday so I could ignore it completely! Bahhhh humbug!

  • RAB Bountiful, UT
    Dec. 24, 2010 12:52 p.m.

    I'm trying to figure out where the scriptures say that Jesus's parents did not grumble or complain about Government stealing or redistributing wealth.

    Mary had to travel a great distance on a donkey while pregnant and then had to sleep in stable while having a baby - all the suit the demands of the Government. There is no doubt in my mind that she was not particularly pleased about it.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Dec. 24, 2010 10:45 a.m.

    "And all went to be taxed, every one into his own city."


    Yes, even Jesus's parents paid their taxes - and did not grumble or complain about Government stealing, or the evils of the redistribution of wealth.

    The real Story of Christmas lies in one's heart.